It just feels like Escobar should be sat down. Not because he isn’t hitting but because of the error followed by the lack of hoofing it to 1st. I think he coulda beat that ball. If you make an error I need to see an exceptional effort during your next at bat.
I was thinking pathetic more for Mac and Chipper, who both disappointed me a lot tonight. Mac got a double, but the 1st inning was unacceptable. When you get your first two runners on base, and then your 3 and 4 make 3 outs between them to end the inning, it sets a bad tone for the game. Both had bad ABs in the 9th, too. I was thinking 4-11 in the NL East pathetic. If they can’t win in the division they will come in 4th, maybe.
There’s really nothing to see here, folks. I’m telling you, we’re beating some bad teams, losing to good ones, might split the difference with other .500 teams. Repeat, repeat, repeat: 81 wins. We’re a game over .500 right now and that’s after a bucketload of bad teams this month.
And Curt, I know you think (or I think you think) that’s par for the course for the talent we’ve put on the field, but I don’t. I think the team is capable of 87-92 wins. But they’re not prepared correctly, not ordered correctly, not disciplined, and have very little approach besides what each individual player brings to the table. I expect some little spurts of nice games, and I guess I can enjoy that. But a sustained push? Fugghettaboutit.
The Braves are 2-7 against the Nats, Mets, and Fish. They definitely have more talent then all of those teams. You’re on to something, Bub. Maybe the guy deciding who plays when and where is the issue. They seemed really unfocused at times, and need a manager who will get on them about it. Bobby’s hands -off, player’s manager approach does not work with this group of players.
Going into the season I felt the Braves were the 4th or 5th best team in the NL. I genuinely believed that they would be the WC team this year. There was no doubt in my mind. So that’s gotta be a 92 win team there.
You just can’t outrun your manager. Their fundamentals are terrible. The lineup is awful in its order. He still can’t manage a bullpen. Even with all the moving around and the situational pitching he has done, he’s still a hack. And until he honestly moves Chipper and McCann out of the 4 and 5 hole and plays Infante more at short I won’t believe any differently. I remember when the Braves rehired Bobby to be their manager and I felt about as confident as I did when the Falcons rehired Marion Campbell.
Curt, how validated and happy will you feel if we hire Freddie Gonzalez next year and he immediately makes even 50% of these logical moves, runs the pen well, and steers us to a 90 win season? I know that, for me, I will be extremely satisfied? I guess that’s kind of twisted, but dang, all this time in frustration, it would be really nice just to finally see it proven I wasn’t taking crazy pills.
Well, g’night, ABT. S’what I get for letting hope creep in. That door is closed now. I’m safe.
I just wished he had retired 2 or 3 years ago. It would have been better for him too. He ruined our season last year. He cost us the playoffs. And at this point I’m openly rooting for Chipper to retire as well.
I saw this headline. Didn’t read the article. Don’t really care. But the headline was perfect.
I am super-bummed because the US Men’s Soccer Team’s defense looked like crap tonight in a 4-2 loss to the Czech Republic, a team that didn’t even qualify for the World Cup. It was a friendly, meaningless game, but most of the defenders for the US were guys that will play in the WC. They didn’t look good playing as a unit. The June 12th matchup against England should be very interesting.
I know you’ll all see it but just so it’s on the board and we can all blast Bobby some more.
“Chipper lined into the out. That’s as good as he can hit a ball. First inning he hit a line drive to the second baseman for a double play one-hopper. I don’t know what to say about it. We were in the ball game right to the very end.”
“Jesse is improving so much it’s unreal. Again, he’s given up some runs, but his control is so much better. He came up with a curveball Roger’s got him (throwing), he struck out (Hanley) Ramirez with it on a 3-2 pitch. I have a lot of confidence in him, a lot.” -Bob Cox
What game was Bobby watching? As a Tennessee fan, his quotes remind me a lot of Coach Fulmer’s post-game head-scratchers. Just throwin’ that out there. Coach Fulmer had a National Championship, but he will always be a very overrated coach, IMO. To me, there are a lot of glaring similarities between Cox and Fulmer Any coach can win given superior talent. Bobby Cox had three hall of fame pitchers and Fulmer had a lot of guys who went on to be very productive/successful in the NFL. Do you think Phil Jackson has all those rings without Kobe, MF, or Shaq? Great managers, like Tony La Russa, win with mediocre teams. The last Cardinals WS team, outside of Carpenter and Pujols, did not have an amazing roster. At that point Wainwright was still in the pen. They might have still had Edmonds and Rolen, but they were not in their prime. It was not his best Cardinals team.
I’m just dying for a run by an Atlanta team. Something to get excited about. I’m watching the Flyers make it to the Stanley Cup Finals after getting into the playoffs on the last day of the season. How fun would a run like that be? The Hawks were a joke in the playoffs, the Thrashers have never existed, the Falcons don’t know which way they want to go, and the Braves are the Braves. I really was hoping the Braves were going to do something magical this year. I still think they can make a run, but how far can they go in the playoffs? How far can they go with Bobby? Would they make it out of the first round if they had to play the Cards or LA? Do you think LaRussa or Torre would get outcoached by Bobby?
Do you think Bobby would ever have the stones to sit Chipper to win a series? That’s the answer right there. Chipper’s more of a liability than Yunel. Face it. I agree Infante should start, but he should play 2nd and Prado should play 3rd. Chipper is slower than a 1/2 effort by Yunel, Yunel plays better D, and they are both the last two guys I want to see at the plate with the game on the line. Therefore, I take a slumping, thoughtless Yunel over a slumping, out of shape, and powerless Chipper. At least Yunel had a good year last year. Please let Infante and Hinske play everyday. Curt, I agree that the Braves are capable of a run, but it’s like you said on this weeks show. Bobby has to be willing to sit vets to play the hot hand for them to succeed.
My first job out of high school was at this Barbeque joint where most days I showed up late. Once a week I’d drop a rack of ribs into the fire. I’d turned over pots of beans onto the floor, hung out on the phone for hours, and insulted customers that were dressed stupid. I never worried, though.
Cuz MAN what a bossman I had. When anybody asked about me, he just said I was doing a fine job. That rib racks were notoriously slippery, beans on the floor happens to every restaurant, the phone calls were five minutes less each week, and if they lost a few customers for insults, I brought more in by the way I undercharged them at the register.
I loved my job there. We all did. We voted him the Best Barbeque Manager in the Barbeque Press Papers. The food was bad and we eventually burnt the place down, but that guy was one more “employee’s manager.”
(We did have a few years of decent food when Julia Child, Pierre Gagnaire, and Ettori Boiardi all worked in our kitchen. But without our manager, I don’t think they’d have made very good food.)
“But when Bobby Cox said after the game that the liner he hit to Jorge Cantu was as hard as Chipper could hit the ball, I thought well, then, that’s not good.” This quote from Carroll Rogers sums it up.