May 23, 2010

Show #108: The Braves Keep Winning

The Comeback.  What to do with Medlen?  Tracking Chipper’s progress.  And a state of the team discussion.

 

 

294 Responses to “Show #108: The Braves Keep Winning”

  1. 1
    Bubdylan Says:

    Can we have a “Cheap Shots at Frenchy” segment every week? I’ll do research. It’s very cathartic: every cheap shot erases one agonizing memory of an inept at-bat/ remark. So… 7,859 to go…

    Here’s one: Batting Average now at .211, and .188 against right handed pitchers. Good thing there aren’t many right handed pitchers in baseball, AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAH!

    I agree the offense looks downright dangerous compared with early returns. 10 batters that seem like legit possibilities for doing damage, do you realize that? Ten: Heyward, Prado, Glaus, McCann, Chipper, Hinske, McLouth, Infante, Escobar, and Conrad. If just 5 of those get hot at once, and say 3 of the other ones just stay north of Mendoza, we could put up lots of runs.

    Starting pitching, though, worries me. I won’t spell it out since I’ve been so negative lately, but I look for our offense to have to carry us through plenty of games.

    Go Braves!

  2. 2
    Curt Says:

    Quilvio Veras was the 2nd baseman who I could not think of earlier.

  3. 3
    Steve Says:

    Sitting in jury duty this morning. Never been picked before. Anyway …

    Back to Bobby’s lineup from Sunday. Curt made a good point about so many guys sitting at one time. My biggest issue was Clevlen for Hinske (despite the match up). It would have been different with Hinske in there from the start.

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    McOut Says:

    The line up would have been fine, but both the 4th and 5th outfielder were starting. I think you guys underestimate Hinske at 3rd, but I also don’t see why Omar couldn’t play left and Conrad 3rd. I don’t know. Bobby needs to stop sitting Hinske. The pitching will be fine. The Braves are no worse off than the rest of the NL in that regard. The bull pen has been phenomenal. Still don’t understand why Mike Dunn is still in AAA, but that is another issue. He is a lefty, and his control has to be better than Kimbrel’s. They need to find another good arm for the pen because Medlen being a starter is going to hurt the pen in the long run. The key to this team is offense. If they keep averaging around 6 runs a game, then they probably won’t drop many series. Also, let’s not forget the stellar D the guys are bringing to the field, too. I’m excited about the Braves again.

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    McOut Says:

    My dad didn’t get to see the game, but he called me this morning after he looked at the box score in the paper and promptly asked, “Who the (expletive) is Brent Clevlen?” My response, “Exactly.” My dad is from St. Louis, but has become a closet Braves fan over the years because they’re always on in Tennessee. He has been calling for Bobby Cox’s head for right around 2 decades. Gotta love a Cardinals fan. They do know baseball. He reminds me every time we talk that guys like Hinske and Infante would never leave the field if they played for La Russa. He can’t wait for 2011 either.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I agree…with all of it. Hammy, not sure Hurley can reach his pants but
    the visual of his trying made me chuckle. I think this team has had a stutter start of the season. Bobby has made some bone head moves but he’s also made some good ones. Like not letting a RHP pitch to Howard and pinch running for people. I’m not saying I’m not ready for him to go but maybe he will continue to read this message board and act accordingly. Love Hinske. I think Glaus will continue to hit and Cabrera who is known for being streaky will get hot. That’s right hot. Chipper will continue to flounder. While I think Hinske should play more often I don’t think Escobar is going to reach normalcy without consistent at bats. Prado wins a batting title. Ok , that last prediction wasn’t in my crystal ball but I just love his passion.

    Can’t wait for a week from today! Cannot wait!

  7. 7
    Curt Says:

    Leah, remember, i’m NOT going to be there.

  8. 8
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Wait…is today Monday? I mean a week from tomorrow. Days spent running errands with certain people in my life should count as two cause they feel like about 20. And yes Curt, the court remembers where your allegiance lies.

  9. 9
    Curt Says:

    Stupid family

  10. 10
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Lol.

  11. 11
    Bubdowner Says:

    First, the good news: if the Braves win the Florida series, I am resolved to be positive for a whole month, win or lose.

    Now, the bad: I just glanced back over our May schedule so far. I knew we’d played some bad teams, but, to make a long story short:

    Arizona, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, and Houston, and the Mets. Look at those all in a sentence together. We’ve played five awful, awful teams.

    Beyond that, we’ve played two decent teams (Washington and Cincinatti) and one very good team (Ph*lly)

    The very good team swept us. One of the two decent teams beat us.

    The only decent team we beat was the Reds, requiring a Braves Record Book comback driven by a Grand Slam off an outfielder’s glove.

    It’s actually remarkable how exactly this team has played to likely outcomes this year. I looked over the bad April and it was the same thing: yeah, the record was bad, but almost exactly in proportion to the good teams we were playing. Braves are not playing up or down to the competition this year, which, I guess, is at least half good.

    But it paints a pretty consistant picture: An average ballclub losing to good teams and beating bad ones.

    So, there’s your daily dose of sunshine. :) :) :)

  12. 12
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Thanks Mr. Weatherman. I see your point but I remember we played just terrible against the Cards. I mean, it wasn’t them just being really good it was us being pitiful. I think we’re better than THAT…don’t you?

    Btw…I don’t see the Hinske interview. Am I blind?

  13. 13
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Great minds think alike:

    Mara Says:
    May 19th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
    I’m sure this has been discussed on this forum but I can’t remember. Fair or foul…interleague play. Go.

  14. 14
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Found Hinske interview right where I left it. :)

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    That may be my favorite player interview. Great questions Steve. Love me some Hinske!

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    Cautiously less pessimistic Says:

    The Braves didn’t get swept by Philly, they won the Saturday game that Medlen pitched.

  17. 17
    Bubdowner Says:

    Didn’t get swept? I thought we did. Oh, well. Yay?

  18. 18
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I HATE nights without baseball.

  19. 19
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Make that Braves Baseball. Boston’s beating up on TB.

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    McOut Says:

    Based on the listed stats, Julio Teheran had 7IP w/ 12K, 2BB, 4H, 1ER, 1HR in his first start after being promoted to high A ball. He got a ND, and his ERA is 1. 29. He turned 19 in January.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    “We’re havin’ FISH TONIGHT!”. Who said it Bubdylan. Btw…happy late birthday. I saw on Twitter it was yesterday.

  22. 22
    Steve Says:

    What’s Bub’s Twitter account?

  23. 23
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I have no idea. I may have confused him with the other B. Dylan. :)

  24. 24
    Steve Says:

    Oh, sorry – I was being thick.

    The G-Braves just tweeted the Gregor Blanco’s been called up to Atlanta. Who’s being DL’d? Or sent down?

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    McOut Says:

    Hell’s yeah! Bravos vs. Fish means the game’s on in Tampa. I’ll be WATCHING tonight, for better or worse. Go Braves!

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    McOut Says:

    Steve, maybe McLouth? Escobar? McLouth has been banged up by pitches. Maybe his ribs are hurt. Maybe Escobar is still hurt. That would explain a lot for Escobar. He doesn’t have that many K’s, but his BA when he puts the ball in play is near .200.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nothing on my Twitter feed. Who could it be?

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    McOut Says:

    Actually, if it were Escobar, they would definitely call up an infielder. My money is on McLouth. Melky hasn’t played enough to be hurt. Hinske and Heyward both fall under the category of man-beast, so I’m hoping both will be playing this series. We need to fix our NL East poo-poo record of like 4-10.
    Maybe they’ve seen enough of Clevlen. Blanco is hitting in the .290s and is a decent fielder. I don’t see how Blanco could be worse than McLouth to begin with. It makes sense for McLouth to try to play through an injury because he knows there are 2 guys in AAA who could do the job as well, if not better, than him.

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    McOut Says:

    How weird was it when McLouth sacrificed for Hudson the other night. That was really bizarre and unheard of. I think something is up.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    Actually, it was my birthday and Bob Dylan’s birthday, too. I was at the beach one time with two other dudes with Bob’s birthday and one guy born on Jimi Hendrix’s birthday. All three of us born on Bob’s were songwriters and the guy born on Jimi’s played guitar, and none of the 4 of us knew about the celebrity b-days until after our hobbies were chosen. Weird, huh? I’m not into astrology, but I do wonder if there’s not at least a little something mysterious to the alignment of numbers & stars.

  31. 31
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Dadgummit…I wish I hadn’t responded to Steve’s Twitter account inquiry. How freaked were you when I knew it was your birthday? Happy Birthday for reals.

  32. 32
    Steve Says:

    Carroll Rogers just confirmed that Clevlen’s going to be DL’d.

  33. 33
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Predictions on tonight’s lineup?

  34. 34
    McOut Says:

    Prado, Heyman, Chipper, McCann, Glaus, Hinske, Yusmell, McOut, Keys

  35. 35
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Tonight’s lineup: Prado, 4; Heyward, 9; Chipper, 5; McCann, 2; Glaus, 3; Hinske, 7; Escobar, 6; McLouth, 8; Kawakami, 1.

    I know it’s a privilege to play in the all star game and I should vote like crazy for our players but it always makes me nervous. For instance, what if Heyward plays and gets hurt?

  36. 36
    Mara Wanna Says:

    McOut is bloody brilliant.

  37. 37
    Steve Says:

    Agreed on the line-ups, Mara and McOut. Other than on “crazy Sundays,” I think this is it for a while. Let’s win tonight, dammit. I’m a little nervous.

  38. 38
    McOut Says:

    Me too, Steve, me too. Sanchez has been really good lately, and we all know about KK’s troubles. I really hope/think Escobar gets it going. He always plays well in South Florida. I like the other two match ups we have in this series, though, and we got Pittsburgh this weekend. I’m thinking 5-1. We really need to close strong on May. june is going to be BRUTAL. If KK drops 2 in 1 week, then something needs to be done.

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    atlantafanatic Says:

    Firstly I agree with the lineups. But I understand Mara’s fears about the All star game (Ray Fossey). For those who dont know here’s a link. http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-07-10/sports/17692500_1_time-hits-leader-ray-fosse-collision

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    Curt Says:

    I’m not sure we need to worry too much about all stars. None of these dudes is getting voted in. Prado might get picked by Charlie Manuel, and maybe Hudson or Wagner, but other than that we are pretty safe. I don’t see Heyward making the team with all the outfielders in the NL, even with his numbers. Manny Ramirez and a couple of other stiffs will get elected in by the fans. Watch Carlos Beltran to be leading the OF voting at some point.

  41. 41
    Steve Says:

    McOut – yeah, the KK match up tonight is clearly the worst of the three. But, he did look really good last game (he didn’t drop his last start, the bullpen dropped it for him). I just don’t want to lose tonight and all the sudden have a 2 game losing streak. Win game 1 of series. Gots to.

  42. 42
    Curt Says:

    Sorry, the stiff in the OF is Victorino. And Jimmy Rollins, who has played what? 5 games this year? is leading the SSs. Basically it is the Phillies starting lineup, with Pujols and Molina and Braun. Heyward is 6th (so I might be wrong about him), Prado 3rd, etc. All can be read below.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100525&content_id=10409258&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

  43. 43
    McOut Says:

    Prado, Heyward, and Hudson all have good shots at the All-Star team, if they keep performing the way they are now. I could see Prado getting snubbed if if they only take 2 2B because KJ might be the only feasible D’Back All-Star. Manuel will take Heyward as a reserve for our lone represenative. I think Heyward is actually more likely than Prado as our All Star because there are 6 OF on the team. A lot of pitchers are having good years, and I’ve already mentioned why Prado might get snubbed.

  44. 44
    McOut Says:

    Let me get this straight, so Clevlen goes on the DL with a sore toe after subbing for a guy with a sore thumb. The injuries on this team are comical. First groins, then hammys, and now fingers and toes. What is up with these guys? Let us not forget Yunel hurting his Chipper, which I think is the new scientific term for oblique. The Braves have to be the softest team in baseball.

  45. 45
    McOut Says:

    I forgot about Matty’s splinter, too.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    I’m going out on a limb and predicting our ugliest (or Uggliest?) loss of the year tonight. Florida’s surging offense versus Kitchen Comma Car Keys sounds like a recipe for suck.

    Go Braves!

  47. 47
    McOut Says:

    Yeah, the Fish definitely have a better line up than we do.

  48. 48
    McOut Says:

    Chipper is BAD.

  49. 49
    McOut Says:

    Prado single. Heyward single. Chipper DP. McCann K. Braves.

  50. 50
    McOut Says:

    Bobby “I think I’ll sit 5 starters today” Cox is the most stubborn manager of all time.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    I’m starting the Both Prado and Heyward Get On Base and Chip And Mac Strand Them count at 2 with that one right there. I think I remember it happening 3 times already, but I’ll stick with 2.

    the BPAHGOBACAMST count: 2

  52. 52
    Anne Says:

    McOut…NEVER forget Matty’s splinter. Chipper IS bad. He just pulled a Frenchy…and we’re at 0-0 tonight when we should be at LEAST 1-0. I was watching “A Serious Man” on DVD but stopped it to watch the game. Don’t MAKE me put my Netflick back in…

  53. 53
    Bubdowner Says:

    “A Serious Man” is more hopeful and happy than this game’s gonna be.

  54. 54
    Anne Says:

    If only the Braves would visit a rabbi…(I’m only one rabbi in to the movie)

  55. 55
    Anne Says:

    Oh, for god’s sake.

  56. 56
    Bubdowner Says:

    If you can remain as detached from the characters as the Coens are, you might dig it. I couldn’t.

  57. 57
    McOut Says:

    Nice throw BMac. That was a perfect throw.

  58. 58
    McOut Says:

    Bad defense just cost the Braves a run.

  59. 59
    Anne Says:

    Agreed, McOut. Bub: I’m not Jewish, and I mean this with absolutely no disrespect…I wonder if I were Jewish, would I appreciate this movie more. I actually do like it – I like the Coens, though Burn After Reading almost turned me away for good.

  60. 60
    McOut Says:

    After experiencing an inning of FSMarlins broadcasting, I am convinced that 0 personality is a requirement for anyone who works as a FOX Sports broadcaster.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    My Coen Bros observation in ten seconds (not that you asked): Very clever dudes. But they hold most of their characters in contempt. When there’s a character they do care about (H.I. McDonough, Marge, Ed Tom Bell, or Billy Bob’s character in “TMW Wasn’t There”) I can enjoy it without getting the shivers. Otheriwse, too bleak. I don’t have a great time laughing at contemptable and helpless characters.

    And their rebellion against the conventions of conflict resolution (The ending of Barton Fink, Lewellyn’s glazed over death in No Country) are not clever to me, or “like real life,” or whatever. Just unsatisfying in a sort of cute way.

    That said, Raising Arizona’s my favorite movie.

  62. 62
    Anne Says:

    Bub, I was HOPING to get an unsolicited opinion, because I love it when you wax poetically on any old subject. Thanks. I like me some Barton Fink…but Raising AZ is right up there.

    Glad KawaK has chilled a bit…and just helped his cause…oh, and thanks, Prado!

    I’m pretty sure if I keep the TV on mute, I can hear the players and fans @ the Marlins field just as loud as if I leave the mute off.

  63. 63
    McOut Says:

    Prado is a man beast, too. Bub, I love me some Raising Arizona.

  64. 64
    Anne Says:

    B-Mac!!!!!

  65. 65
    McOut Says:

    Mac Attack!

  66. 66
    Bubdowner Says:

    McCannnnnnnnn. Can’t believe it.

  67. 67
    Bubdowner Says:

    Maybinnnnnnn. Can believe it.

  68. 68
    McOut Says:

    Maybin crushed that one! KK this is the big leagues. If you throw up in the zone, then even a team’s two worst hitters can crush you.

  69. 69
    Bubdowner Says:

    “I threw a lot with my feeling and soul,” they keep quoting that from KK on the Florida station. He had a blister on his foot in that game, I wonder if he really said “sole.”

  70. 70
    Bubdowner Says:

    Well, no matter what happens after this, I never thought KK would make it through Uggla, Hanely, and Cantu twice with only 2 runs scored. So, I reckon my limb broke.

    Go Braves!

  71. 71
    Bubdowner Says:

    Escobar, good job, buddy.

  72. 72
    McOut Says:

    Can Whimper Jones get a ball out of the infield?

  73. 73
    McOut Says:

    Maybe he needed 3 days off.

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    Steve Says:

    Doesn’t feel too good, this game. Great at bat by Nate there, though.

    Anne – I just could not do Barton Fink. But love me the Coen Brothers typically.

  75. 75
    Bubdowner Says:

    Chipper’s the last hitter on the whole club besides McLouth I’d like to see up right here with bases loaded.

  76. 76
    Anne Says:

    Bub, it’s like you’re in my mind…

  77. 77
    Anne Says:

    Ha! Did Paulino just smile @ McLouth @ 3rd? They were Pirates together once, right?

  78. 78
    Bubdowner Says:

    Sigh.

    Strands his 5th, 6th, and 7th runner on the night.

  79. 79
    Anne Says:

    [losing horns] I’m going back to Netflix.

  80. 80
    Bubdowner Says:

    I think the Coen Brothers are directing this game.

  81. 81
    McOut Says:

    Whimper Jones blows it again. He’ll probably get credit for it being a line drive, right? Wrong. An out, is an out, is an out. He looks awful.

  82. 82
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Damn the pitcher for hitting Heyward.

  83. 83
    McOut Says:

    Kawakami, while not rock solid, was solid, and he will probably get another L. This team just puts on their Suck Fest act when he pitches. It’s not his fault, but these uys don’t seem driven to play hard behind him.

  84. 84
    Steve Says:

    No kidding. Hitting Heyward really did NOT help us. At least Chipper hit it solidly. It was less frustrating than rolling over on it weakly.

  85. 85
    McOut Says:

    The Braves cannot get Maybin out.

  86. 86
    Mara Wanna Says:

    All right…score some runs!

  87. 87
    Bubdowner Says:

    Prado and Heyward won’t be up again unless the other batters don’t wake up.

  88. 88
    Bubdowner Says:

    *do wake up.

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    Curt Says:

    Add to that, Piniero was getting hit at a .350 clip by lefties and a .160 something against righties so Chipper takes that knowledge and bats righty.

    Miller’s Crossing must get some credit for being perfectly brilliant, although a 12 on the grim meter

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Is there anyway Escobar beats that ball? Am I just expecting him to give a halfass effort cause when dude bobbled the ball I had hope.

  91. 91
    Curt Says:

    “once chipper and escober get going, watch out world”

    - Steve

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    McOut Says:

    The left side of the infield is garbage.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    I noticed Freddie flubbed the reverse split putting Pinto (you meant Pinto, right?) in to face Heyward. Not a smooth move for our future (hope, hope, hope) manager.

    I watched Miller’s Crossing just this week. Wally Mart shucking them for five dolla. My first time seeing it on a nice t.v., didn’t know how beautiful the cinematography was. John Turturo = amazing in that movie. His finest hour, to me.

  94. 94
    Bubdowner Says:

    “Is there anyway Escobar beats that ball?”

    Not without hustling. So, no.

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    Curt Says:

    Pinto. yes.

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    Curt Says:

    That whole cast is great. Albert Finney is tremendous. All the Coen players are in rare form. Just a great movie.

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    McOut Says:

    really surprised to see Chavez still out there

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    Bubdowner Says:

    “youse fancy pants, all o’ yas” Love that line.

    “Look into your heart, Tom. I’m praying to you. Look into your heart.” Gives me chills just typing it.

    And Leo tommy gunning the guy upstairs after jumping out the window is one of the most satisfying pieces of violence in film. I think the score is underrated, too.

    And it’s grim, true enough, but I don’t get that scuzzy feeling like nobody’s worth a crap. Leo and Tom’s loyalty to each other is genuinely nice, even the bust up at the end doesn’t really hurt that. “I said we were through, it’s not the same thing.”

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    So…Steve, you thought we’d take the other two games…right?

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    McOut Says:

    Thanks Bobby. Now it’s officially an L. Were there really no other relievers available for the 8th? At the time of the double, Chavez had already thrown 30 and appeared to be laboring.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Never seen Miller’s Crossing. I’ll watch it when I watch that baseball movie with that Crash guy

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    Bubdowner Says:

    Since we’re getting our butts kicked anyway, go ahead and let all Chavez’s runs score. Maybe Bobby’ll get the…

    … … … no, he won’t.

  103. 103
    McOut Says:

    4-11 in the NL East. Pathetic. I attribute Sunday’s game to Bobby benching 5 starters at once, and this L to him continuing the Chipper 3-hole fiasco and giving all of our good relievers 2 days off. Earth to Bobby, this is Major League baseball. Go manage in a softball league somewhere you washed-up clown.

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    Steve Says:

    I forget about Miller’s Crossing. Which is crazy, because it is AMAZINGLY good. Really about perfect. Or, the exact opposite of this game tonight.

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    Mara Wanna Come Back Says:

    Head. In. The. Game. Martin! Escobar’s rubbing off on him. Come back win…here we go!

  106. 106
    McOut Says:

    Sunday we saw most of our regulars get benched, and today we saw 3 pitchers who probably shouldn’t be pitching in MLB. We lost both games. That’s actually not all that surprising.

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    Curt Says:

    What’s the opposite of your manager making all the right moves? A Bobby? A Cox?

  108. 108
    Bubdowner Says:

    “Come back win…here we go!”

    It’s not impossible if Conrad gets on. Prado-through-Glaus are as likely to put up 4 as anyone on this team.

  109. 109
    Bubdowner Says:

    This game minus Jesse Chavez and Chipper in the 3 spot = winnable.

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    McOut Says:

    The 8th must have been past his bedtime. I was surprised when Chavez came in in the first place. I was even more surprised to see him face the heart of the order. I was even more surprised to see him face Ross, one of the hottest hitters in baseball, after walking Dan Uggla, giving up a single to Cantu, and almost walking Hanley. Then I realized Bobby Cox hasn’t retired yet, and I wasn’t all that surprised .

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    Bubdowner Says:

    I wish we could at least get to Chipper. He’d have a shot at stranding 10 men in a game. Maybe Bobby would…

    … … … no, he wouldn’t.

  112. 112
    Bubdowner Says:

    Some fireworks.

    Do it up, Braves. C’mon.

  113. 113
    Mara Wanna Come Back Says:

    I LOVE that guy!

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    McOut Says:

    1-9 w/ RISP. YIKES!

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    McOut Says:

    Now leaving in Jesse Chavez really hurts. THANKS BOBBY!

  116. 116
    Mara Wanna Come Back Says:

    And that guy!

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    Bubdowner Says:

    Chipper Jones freaking sucks. Sorry.

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    McOut Says:

    Really Chipper? Really? Go on the DL. Please.

  119. 119
    McOut Says:

    PATHETIC

  120. 120
    Mara Wanna Come Back Says:

    SIT CHIPPER!!!!!!!!!! Shoulda put Infnte in.

  121. 121
    Bubdowner Says:

    Augh. Why on this big round green world did I EVER think about getting my hopes up in this game. I held it off the whole game just to start hoping at the end. Freaking Braves.

  122. 122
    Mara Wanna Come Back Says:

    Sorry…my fault. But it was fun for a little bit, right?

  123. 123
    Bubdowner Says:

    Un.
    Nec.
    Ces.
    Sary.
    Loss.

  124. 124
    McOut Says:

    We could easily be 25-20 right now, but because of ol’ Bobby Cox were 23-22. We’re also 1for 5 in the WS, but that’s old news.

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    Steve Says:

    No runs in the 9th would have been pathetic to me. At least they did something and made it interesting. Chipper is a real drain on this lineup in the 3, that’s for sure. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudggggggggggggggggge.

  126. 126
    Bubdowner Says:

    Chipper stranded 8 stinking runners.

  127. 127
    Mara Wanna Says:

    It just feels like Escobar should be sat down. Not because he isn’t hitting but because of the error followed by the lack of hoofing it to 1st. I think he coulda beat that ball. If you make an error I need to see an exceptional effort during your next at bat.

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    McOut Says:

    I was thinking pathetic more for Mac and Chipper, who both disappointed me a lot tonight. Mac got a double, but the 1st inning was unacceptable. When you get your first two runners on base, and then your 3 and 4 make 3 outs between them to end the inning, it sets a bad tone for the game. Both had bad ABs in the 9th, too. I was thinking 4-11 in the NL East pathetic. If they can’t win in the division they will come in 4th, maybe.

  129. 129
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I’m ready to see Hanson pitch lights out. I want to make sure the last game was a fluke.

  130. 130
    Steve Says:

    Yeah – that Hanson thing. And really time for Chipper to move down in the line up. For the love of all that’s good and baseball.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    There’s really nothing to see here, folks. I’m telling you, we’re beating some bad teams, losing to good ones, might split the difference with other .500 teams. Repeat, repeat, repeat: 81 wins. We’re a game over .500 right now and that’s after a bucketload of bad teams this month.

    And Curt, I know you think (or I think you think) that’s par for the course for the talent we’ve put on the field, but I don’t. I think the team is capable of 87-92 wins. But they’re not prepared correctly, not ordered correctly, not disciplined, and have very little approach besides what each individual player brings to the table. I expect some little spurts of nice games, and I guess I can enjoy that. But a sustained push? Fugghettaboutit.

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    McOut Says:

    The Braves are 2-7 against the Nats, Mets, and Fish. They definitely have more talent then all of those teams. You’re on to something, Bub. Maybe the guy deciding who plays when and where is the issue. They seemed really unfocused at times, and need a manager who will get on them about it. Bobby’s hands -off, player’s manager approach does not work with this group of players.

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    Curt Says:

    Going into the season I felt the Braves were the 4th or 5th best team in the NL. I genuinely believed that they would be the WC team this year. There was no doubt in my mind. So that’s gotta be a 92 win team there.

    You just can’t outrun your manager. Their fundamentals are terrible. The lineup is awful in its order. He still can’t manage a bullpen. Even with all the moving around and the situational pitching he has done, he’s still a hack. And until he honestly moves Chipper and McCann out of the 4 and 5 hole and plays Infante more at short I won’t believe any differently. I remember when the Braves rehired Bobby to be their manager and I felt about as confident as I did when the Falcons rehired Marion Campbell.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    Curt, how validated and happy will you feel if we hire Freddie Gonzalez next year and he immediately makes even 50% of these logical moves, runs the pen well, and steers us to a 90 win season? I know that, for me, I will be extremely satisfied? I guess that’s kind of twisted, but dang, all this time in frustration, it would be really nice just to finally see it proven I wasn’t taking crazy pills.

    Well, g’night, ABT. S’what I get for letting hope creep in. That door is closed now. I’m safe.

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    Curt Says:

    I just wished he had retired 2 or 3 years ago. It would have been better for him too. He ruined our season last year. He cost us the playoffs. And at this point I’m openly rooting for Chipper to retire as well.

    I saw this headline. Didn’t read the article. Don’t really care. But the headline was perfect.

    “Man admits to Phillies game vomit assault”

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    McOut Says:

    I am super-bummed because the US Men’s Soccer Team’s defense looked like crap tonight in a 4-2 loss to the Czech Republic, a team that didn’t even qualify for the World Cup. It was a friendly, meaningless game, but most of the defenders for the US were guys that will play in the WC. They didn’t look good playing as a unit. The June 12th matchup against England should be very interesting.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Curt, did you see that psycho disgusting Phillies fan was also a police captain? I can’t remember where I saw it but I read that somewhere. Nice.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I know you’ll all see it but just so it’s on the board and we can all blast Bobby some more.

    “Chipper lined into the out. That’s as good as he can hit a ball. First inning he hit a line drive to the second baseman for a double play one-hopper. I don’t know what to say about it. We were in the ball game right to the very end.”

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Baseball sucks.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    “Jesse is improving so much it’s unreal. Again, he’s given up some runs, but his control is so much better. He came up with a curveball Roger’s got him (throwing), he struck out (Hanley) Ramirez with it on a 3-2 pitch. I have a lot of confidence in him, a lot.” -Bob Cox

    I’ll see you all in 2011

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    McOut Says:

    What game was Bobby watching? As a Tennessee fan, his quotes remind me a lot of Coach Fulmer’s post-game head-scratchers. Just throwin’ that out there. Coach Fulmer had a National Championship, but he will always be a very overrated coach, IMO. To me, there are a lot of glaring similarities between Cox and Fulmer Any coach can win given superior talent. Bobby Cox had three hall of fame pitchers and Fulmer had a lot of guys who went on to be very productive/successful in the NFL. Do you think Phil Jackson has all those rings without Kobe, MF, or Shaq? Great managers, like Tony La Russa, win with mediocre teams. The last Cardinals WS team, outside of Carpenter and Pujols, did not have an amazing roster. At that point Wainwright was still in the pen. They might have still had Edmonds and Rolen, but they were not in their prime. It was not his best Cardinals team.

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    McOut Says:

    I meant “MJ” instead of “MF”. I was obviously still thinking about Bobby when I typed that one. Freudian slip.

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    Curt Says:

    I’m just dying for a run by an Atlanta team. Something to get excited about. I’m watching the Flyers make it to the Stanley Cup Finals after getting into the playoffs on the last day of the season. How fun would a run like that be? The Hawks were a joke in the playoffs, the Thrashers have never existed, the Falcons don’t know which way they want to go, and the Braves are the Braves. I really was hoping the Braves were going to do something magical this year. I still think they can make a run, but how far can they go in the playoffs? How far can they go with Bobby? Would they make it out of the first round if they had to play the Cards or LA? Do you think LaRussa or Torre would get outcoached by Bobby?

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    McOut Says:

    Do you think Bobby would ever have the stones to sit Chipper to win a series? That’s the answer right there. Chipper’s more of a liability than Yunel. Face it. I agree Infante should start, but he should play 2nd and Prado should play 3rd. Chipper is slower than a 1/2 effort by Yunel, Yunel plays better D, and they are both the last two guys I want to see at the plate with the game on the line. Therefore, I take a slumping, thoughtless Yunel over a slumping, out of shape, and powerless Chipper. At least Yunel had a good year last year. Please let Infante and Hinske play everyday. Curt, I agree that the Braves are capable of a run, but it’s like you said on this weeks show. Bobby has to be willing to sit vets to play the hot hand for them to succeed.

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    McOut Says:

    Do you think Medlen is still a starter when JJ is back? Same type of scenario….

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    Bubdowner Says:

    My first job out of high school was at this Barbeque joint where most days I showed up late. Once a week I’d drop a rack of ribs into the fire. I’d turned over pots of beans onto the floor, hung out on the phone for hours, and insulted customers that were dressed stupid. I never worried, though.

    Cuz MAN what a bossman I had. When anybody asked about me, he just said I was doing a fine job. That rib racks were notoriously slippery, beans on the floor happens to every restaurant, the phone calls were five minutes less each week, and if they lost a few customers for insults, I brought more in by the way I undercharged them at the register.

    I loved my job there. We all did. We voted him the Best Barbeque Manager in the Barbeque Press Papers. The food was bad and we eventually burnt the place down, but that guy was one more “employee’s manager.”

    (We did have a few years of decent food when Julia Child, Pierre Gagnaire, and Ettori Boiardi all worked in our kitchen. But without our manager, I don’t think they’d have made very good food.)

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I bet your BBQ sauce was vinegar based huh.

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    Steve Says:

    I predict that Chipper is in the 2 hole tonight and Heyward in the 3. I’m calling it now!!!!

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    Bubdowner Says:

    Actually, it was 1 part sugar, 2 parts syrup, and a teaspoon of mustard so the manager could claim to have a grumpy side.

    When the food is already sour, ya don’t need any vinegar. :)

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    McOut Says:

    “But when Bobby Cox said after the game that the liner he hit to Jorge Cantu was as hard as Chipper could hit the ball, I thought well, then, that’s not good.” This quote from Carroll Rogers sums it up.

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    McOut Says:

    I think Robertson is a lefty, so I’m a little worried about what the line up is going to look like.

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    Steve Says:

    McOut – good point. Probably replace Hinske with Melky tonight. Which is just so disheartening. SO disheartening. I don’t care if he’s gotten a few hits lately. I have zero confidence in him.

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    Steve Says:

    So much for my prediction about Chipper: 1. Prado 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Jones 3B, 4. Glaus 1B, 5. McCann C, 6. Escobar SS, 7. Cabrera LF, 8. McLouth CF, 9. Hanson P.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Dear tommy Hanson, please be good. Please, please, pretty please pitch really really good.

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    McOut Says:

    Steve, unfortunately, we were right. Bobby loves a platoon. I would much rather him platoon Hinske with Infante, if he has to platoon Hinske. I would much rather see Cabrera replace McLouth, if anyone. I won’t be able to watch the game, but I hope Hanson can hold the Fish under 2.

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    Curt Says:

    What a ridiculous lineup. Is it by jersey number or something? Did my son do it? And not the 6-year-old, the two-year-old. The 6-year-old knows better. Besides, if he did it, SpongeBob would be in the 3 hole and would probably collect more hits. Does he not know that we are 4-11 against our division?

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    McOut Says:

    Not a great looking 5-8, again. We typically don’t score in games where that is the case. That’s like going on a first date with a 3-day old beard, unkept hair, a dirty shirt, and pants that were obviously on the bedroom floor prior to being worn. Unless the girl your going on the date with is an indie-rocker, or unless the team your playing are the Houston Astros, it’s probably not going to go well. Remember how much we scored when we had Glaus, Hinske, Infante 5-7. Yeah, me too. Those were good times.

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    McOut, Yusmell Says:

    When will the McDonough Masher take his rightful place at number 3? I would love to see this:
    Infante
    Prado
    Heyward
    Glaus
    Hinske
    Chipper
    McCann
    McLouth

    *Yunel sucks

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    Wade Says:

    I agree McOut. I’m so sick of Yunel. Please get him out of the lineup, and if we must play Chipper- -then put him in the 7th or 8th. Could we bat 3 folks 8th? McClouth, Melky, and Chipper.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Chipper looks TERRIBLE!!!

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Can we have Hanley? He’d like Bobby.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Gonna be a very long night.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Mac bunts? To get on first and bring up Escobar? Clearly you are all smarter than I and doing something fabulous with your evening instead of watching this game.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Bottom of the 4th was fun. :)

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    Curt Says:

    Snore

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Cabrera had a great at bat in the 5th.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nice throw Melky. Nice catch Mclouth. What the hell’s wrong with Tommy Hanson?

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    HOLY CRAP! Escobar got a single.

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    Curt Says:

    Here we go again. $100 Chipper does nothing here.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Well, you were right about Chipper but it turned out to be a nice inning. Found the Fish’s weak link.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nice Yunel!

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    Curt Says:

    Finally a big hit. Need to start taking some of these series against good opponents. We must play the last two months at home because it seems like we have been on the road all season.

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    Bubdowner Says:

    Good game, Bravos. Esco comeback would be huge.

    Cracks me up that pitchers are still scared to ring the strike zone with Chipper. A big name takes a long, long time to fall out of pitchers’ subconscious. (Although I did read a distressing insider article today about Chipper’s regression, and the guy said pitchers are getting the news now and it won’t be long till his walks start dropping.)

    Go Braves and G’night.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Whew…it seems Wes Helms always kills us.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Heyward did not take one swing during that at bat.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    How do you NOT sit Chipper? Is Bobby the only one who can make that decision? Can’t SOMEONE speak up?

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Marlin’s bullpen…not fantastic.

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    Steve Says:

    Does anyone feel any better about Esco? Melky? Chipper?

    My answers: maybe, yes, no

    nice win. more wack-job bullpen management tonight

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    Show all Says:

    I say: yes, yes and maybe. Chipper still is dangerous, and I think he will have occasional streaks of hitting. Do we see the light at the end of the tunnel? Yep. Do we know when the train will reach the station? No.

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    Yusmell Asscobar Says:

    We won- didn’t get to see the game. I noticed Chipper didn’t get a hit. Did he hit any “line drives” like his double play in the first inning of Tuesday’s game. Bobby calling that ball a line drive is proof enough that he is out of touch with the game. maybe the Melk Dud is coming around. I doubt it, but maybe. He really is a 4th outfielder when it comes down to it. The only one I would bank on coming around is Escobar. He sucks something awful right now, but I he could still turn it around with his talent.

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    Yusmell Asscobar Says:

    BTW, If we had won both Sunday and Tueaday we would be only a 1/2 game out of first, which should of happened, but, for some reason, Cox is still the manager. Thanks Bobby.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    ” Chipper had a big walk. “. Guess who said it…big wild guess. That made me laugh. His “big walk” plated a run so i suppose that should probably count for something.

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    Curt Says:

    A big walk when the pitches were so bad Escobar wouldn’t have even swung at them. Way to go Chip

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    McOut Says:

    I DVRed the game and watched after I got home. Probably the most unimpressive 4-run win I’ve ever seen. Thank god we keep playing teams with awful bullpens. I don’t quite understand why Moylan pitched two innings last night instead of maybe the 8th Tuesday and the 8th last night. I still don’t get why Chavez pitched in a one run game after everyone had a day off. It also seems like Tuesday night, 8th inning, 1 out, runners on first and second, and Cody Ross, a right hander, at the plate would have been the ideal Moylan spot. It probably keeps that game a one run game. The Braves probably win. But….
    The offense looks questionable at best, again. I guess Troy Glaus’s foot problem is why he is slower than Sid Bream. Do we really need to say anything about Chipper? I mean, it so obvious to everyone except Bobby that he shouldn’t hit 3rd anymore. It’s not Chipper’s fault, he’s suggested he be moved in the order. It might take some of the pressure off of him. The Marlins announcers were even talking about how they’d bat him 6th or 7th at this point in his career. It’s funny going through this Chipper thing, and Francona is up in Boston pulling Big Papi at every wise opportunity, like good managers will do. Big Papi is having a better year than Chipper, is a Boston sports icon, and yet even he is not immune to tough managerial decisions. That’s what managers do who care about winning above everything else. Something tells me that if a guy like Tito were making out our line up, a guy like Chipper might not be batting where he is just because that’s where he’s always hit. Decisions might be made based on a player’s actual CURRENT performance.

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    McOut Says:

    BTW, “Crime Dog” Fred McGriff was at the gig I played last night. Pretty cool. He’s not as tall as I expected, but he is probably one of the nicest guys I have ever met in my life. I always loved him when he was paying, and I like him even more now. He was very kind to take a moment from his evening with friends to talk to a fan. I will never forget going to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium in the Summer one year and the Braves were playing the Cardinals. I went with my dad and two older brothers, all of whom are Cards fans. (My Dad is fro St. Louis, My Mom is from Dalton, GA-thus the split in the family with sports allegiances) Glavine was pitching. The Braves won 5-3 and Fred McGriff hit the game winning 3-run homer. If any of you have brothers, older brothers in particular, then you know how special that game was for me. GO BRAVES!

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    McOut Says:

    Does anyone know anything about this Yasser Gomez the Braves signed? Cuban defector, CF, apparently he’s going to start out in AAA.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    “the gig I played last night.”. You Bub and Cledus should start an ABT band. Cool story!

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Am I right that HAnson will pitch Tuesday night? Any idea who he’ll face?

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Wait…Hudson’s pitching Tuesday. It’s just counting to 5,you’d think I could do that. Packing for 5 people has taken all my math abilities away.

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    Steve Says:

    McOut – where were you playing? And why was McGriff there?

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    McOut Says:

    This place called Grille 116 in Tampa. It’s a very nice restaurant/bar. He apparently goes there a lot. I randomly saw Ronde Barber there a couple weeks ago, too. Also a really nice guy, but it was bitter for me because he usually has some of his best games against the Falcons. Pretty crazy gig.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    We miss Halladay next week. Scheduled matchups are — Blanton vs. Hanson, Hamels vs. Hudson, Kendrick vs. Lowe.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Of course we need to take care of Fish tonight and the Pirates over the weekend. Go Braves!

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    McOut Says:

    I like the Melky for McLouth move in the line up today. I also like Hinske at 4. Chipper still 3….
    Actual: Prado, Heyward, Chipper, Hinske, Glaus, Melky, Escobar, Ross, Hudson.

    With Glaus’s bum foot, I would do this:
    1. Infante 2B
    2. Prado 1B
    3. Heyward RF
    4. Hinske LF
    5. Chipper 3B
    6. Escobar SS
    7. Melky CF
    8. Ross C
    9. Hudson P

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    McOut Says:

    Hahaha. Might want to turn the field mics down. Hinske just yelled four very audible F bombs.

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    McOut Says:

    The Braves have to be the worst hitting team with RISP.

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    McOut Says:

    Melky just saved at least 2 runs.

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    McOut Says:

    What’s the history between Hanley and Hudson? Hudson inexplicably hit Hanley. Hanley then stole 2nd and scored on a single.

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    McOut Says:

    FSMarlins just broadcasted about 20 sec. of straight feedback. Thanks.

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    McOut Says:

    A very long, wet 4th inning.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I love Hudson giving Gabby a hard time about that at bat.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    NO FAIR! Huddy had to pitch in the pouring rain.

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    McOut Says:

    Kind of ridiculous that Hudson had to pitch in that crap, but the Marlins are not. Home field advantage?

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    McOut Says:

    I agree Mara. Don’t quite understand it. It was very obvious that the elements were making it hard on Hudson out there

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Great minds think alike…we commented about that at the same exact time!

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    McOut Says:

    Carroll just posted the tarp is coming off. I wonder if we’ll see Huddy again. My guess would be no.

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    McOut Says:

    If Chavez comes in, then I might pull a Chipper and snap at my gf and kick her dog… nah, I won’t do that….

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    Steve Says:

    It was INSANE that they made Huddy finish the 4th. But, what a tremendous amount of concentration and, dare I say, grit, he showed getting through it. Battling from 3 – 0, no less.

    Mara – pretty awesome that we get Hudson / Hamels. Very, very nice match up.

    McOut – very cool and very random about Crime Dog.

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    McOut Says:

    I agree Steve, that 4th could have been much much much worse. As it stands, we still have a good shot of winning a series against a NL East opponent.

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    McOut Says:

    It sounds like 20 of the 30 fans still at this game are Braves fans.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ross looked safe to me.

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    McOut Says:

    Yes, he looked very safe. Hanley was out in the 1st on his SB, too.

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    Ham Says:

    Hey guys – long time no chat. Can I just say . . .

    MAARRRRRTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!

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    McOut Says:

    Ham, I’ll join. MAARRRRRTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN, me likey the insurance run. C’mon J-Hey.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ah Meadow…

    Steve, cannot wait!

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    McOut Says:

    Nice fu manchu

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    McOut Says:

    Now I see why Hinske doesn’t play against lefties. Can we start a petition for a Hinske/Infante in LF? I would say Melk/Hinske, but I honestly do believe that Melky is better than McLouth, and maybe he should be our everyday CF until Schafer or our newest Cuban defector is ready. Melky is adapting to a new league/pitchers, and he is a better hitter than McLouth.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Escobar’s bustin’ out…Chipper’s 2 for 3…What is happening?

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    McOut Says:

    Escobar is back! Good to see him smiling again.

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    McOut Says:

    Mara, the Marlins happened. Both Chipper and Yunel have gaudy numbers against the Fish. Yunel with back to back multi hit games is a very good sign. Him going to RF with that double is vintage Yunel.

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    McOut Says:

    Just caught up with the DVR. WTF? All 3 of the Marlins runs tonight haven’t been deserved.

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    McOut Says:

    Saito was the good Saito in that inning.

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    McOut Says:

    The Braves face 3 lefties against Pittsburgh. Suddenly I’m not so confident about the 5-1 I predicted. How ’bout you, Steve?

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    McOut Says:

    MARTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN. 3 hits. You da man.

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    McOut Says:

    Back to back multi hit games for Melky.

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    McOut Says:

    Good Lord, we have a Jesse Chavez warm-up sighting. Thank God we’re up by 4. This Meyer guy, who has looked absolutely terrible last night and tonight, is one of the 3 no-names JS traded to get Hudson. I’d say that deal worked out pretty good for the Braves.

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    Anne Says:

    NICE game last night. I haven’t caught up on posts, so I might be twice-repeating myself…apologies ahead of time:

    Steve called 2 outta 3 from The Fish – I heard it. Nice call, Steve.

    A baseball fan friend of mine sent me an article about this summer’s Cooperstown presentations and John Fogerty’s “Centerfield.” Enjoy. http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/john-fogerty-tells-the-story-behind-centerfield/?ref=sports

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    Curt Says:

    I hope Tim Hudson let all the air out of the crew chief’s tires last night. if they had lost that game because of the bottom of the 4th it would have been a disgrace. It wasn’t even like they were getting a full game in.

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    Steve Says:

    McOut – yeah, the 3 lefties in the PITT series is not the greatest news, but I’m very, very heartened by this series with the Marlins. Not Chipper so much (although last night was certainly good to see) but more with two consecutive good nights from Esco and the continued resurgence of Melky. Little to no Hinske this weekend probably, but we scored 15 runs the past two games without the benefit of a single Hinske hit.

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    Steve Says:

    If Bobby does sit Hinske, I want a big dose of Infante in LF and let’s keep riding Melky in CF for a while.

    That said, I guarantee it’s Nate in CF and Melky in LF tonight.

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    McOut Says:

    Good call on the line up, Steve. Unfortunately, I bet we won’t see Omar ever start again unless it’s for an infielder, which is rediculous. I would much rather have his bat n the line up than McLouth’s. McLouth sacrificed for a pitcher a week ago. A pitcher. He put both runners in scoring position for a pitcher and 2 outs. The guy is hopeless. Even he knows it. The question is, when will Bobby figure it out?
    Tonight’s Order:
    Prado, Heyward, Chipper, Glaus, Escobar, Cabrera, Ross, McLouth, Lowe
    Having McLouth in the line up is like having 2 pitchers not named Hudson in the line up. I just hope we don’t end up seeing an entire year of McLouth’s struggles, which I guess we almost have… Is he still under contract next year? I hope not, but I guess our manager next year might not assume a guy should play everyday based on past results.

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    Curt Says:

    At this rate, this game isn’t starting until late. I keep hitting massive pockets of rain

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    McOut Says:

    4 runs in the first. Are these our Braves??? Oh, Hamburglar’s pitching. Now it makes sense. Typical Hamburglar-supportive production I guess.

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    Steve Says:

    Now that’s the way to start a game!

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    McOut Says:

    Of course my namesake strikes out to end the inning. Like I said earlier, it’s like having two pitchers at the end of the order.

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    Steve Says:

    What’s amazing, of course, is all the offense we’ve put up and all the wins we’ve logged despite McOut in the lineup as much as he’s been.

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    McOut Says:

    Lowe and Hudson both raking it compared to McOut. Your right Steve, they’ve played well with 2 guaranteed outs every 9 hitters. It all comes back to Prado, Hinske, and Heyward. Those 3 have carried the Braves offense.

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    McOut Says:

    I guess Zach Duke isn’t that good when we don’t sit a bunch of starters.

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    McOut Says:

    Maybe let Rossy play the weekend against the lefties and let McCann rest-up and get healthy for the Phils…. McOut w/ another K. Shocking.

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    Steve Says:

    Wow, McOut really, really blows. Just awful. Rest of the team, pretty good!

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    Alan Says:

    Hey guys I found your blog via bottom 9 and I really like what I have read. I am moving to Georgia next year to play basball at Reinhardt University and will convert into a Braves fan. I was wandering if maybe I could get some love and be placed on your guys’s links list. I am just starting out with blogging and would really be grateful. Thank you!

    http://beastbaseball.blogspot.com/

    Going Deep,

    Alan

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    McOut Says:

    Same lineup as last night. I guess Bobby saw something in McOut’s K Trilogy last night to warrant another start. Would love to see Melky in CF and Omar in LF against the Lefty. If McOut gets out hit by our pitcher, again, then Omar should play. Just a thought… Has McOut had a hit in the last week????

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    Anne Says:

    Headed to the ballpark – hope we get five innings in before rain…talkin’ 9pm rain. Go Braves!!

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    Bub Says:

    Heyward homered off a lefty? That’s awesome. What that his first off LHP?

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    Bub Says:

    I’ve got the headline for the next Troy Glaus walk-off:

    “Glaussy Finish”

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    Bub Says:

    It was August 11 last year before the Braves went 5 games above .500 for the first time.

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    Anne Says:

    Back on my couch – good to be at the game. Best comment from the peanut gallery – Pirate fan behind me to Burres: “C’mon! You’re giving up more hits than Rick Dees!”

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    Bub Says:

    Um, wow, guess who has scored the most runs in the NL East? Look it up. You’ll be surprised. (rhymes with “Graves” and “Caves”)

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    Curt Says:

    The Phillies?

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    Bub Says:

    Braves have scored 234 runs.
    Phils have scored 231.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Glad we won! I was shaking my groove thang on the dance floor at my cousin’s wedding. Did we play good? Any goodness out of Chipper or Escobar?

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    McOut Says:

    Mara, Chipper got a hit, maybe 2, and a walk, maybe 2. Can’t remember. Escobar .188, McOut .188ish, Omar .319ish… Who would you play???? I know Bobby doesn’t like playing Omar in the OF b/c he likes having another infielder on the bench. Here’s a crazy concept, if and when an infielder gets hurt in a game- cough, Chipper, cough- I think your allowed to move a guy from the OF and put him in an IF position. I still think Escobar is a much better player than McOut. Melky should play CF, which is something I never thought I’d think again. Use the Omar/Hinske combo in LF since Hinske struggles against lefties. After listening to a Frank Wren interview about the team, and this is reading a lot into it, I think he will make a move for another outfield bat if McOut doesn’t come around. He said he was open to making moves if guys can’t turn it around, and he sounded like he will make a trade at some point to fill holes, which is needed if you want to play in October.
    IDK, he also said he wants to keep all his young pitchers on the farm b/c the odds of all of them turning into ML pitchers are very slim. That said, if he wants another bat before the deadline, then he’s probably going to have to part with some of them. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Schafer traded. Prado is a great leadoff man, and Schafer plus Redmond, Resop, and maybe a couple other pitchers could probably get another power bat so we actually have a legit cleanup hitter. The Braves have a ton of good young arms and no cleanup hitter…..

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    McOut Says:

    The Braves will be players at the deadline is a better way to sum it up.

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    Anne Says:

    I admit it: I talk to myself. Don’t we all? (don’t answer that) Last night at the game I asked myself, “Wonder where Garret Anderson is now?” I feel better now:
    May 24: Anderson has had 17 at-bats and four starts, leading to a 2-for-4 performance Sunday, his first multi-hit game of the year. (ouch!)
    160 average, 1 HR, 7 RBI, 4 runs. (insert Price is Right losing horns here)

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    McOut Says:

    Today’s lineup: Prado, Infante, MANBEAST, Glaus, Escobar, Cabrera, Ross, McOut, Car Keys. Infante’s playing 3rd today. Maybe we actually get a sweep with a decent lineup. The Venezuelan Dynamic Duo + MANBEAST= Runs. Does anyone know of a site where you can customize an MLB jersey? I want a number 22 jersey, but I want it to say MANBEAST on the back instead of Heyward. MANBEAST seems more appropriate. Steve, if you get a shot at an interview with Heyward, suggest the name change. It could be like Ochocinco, except it won’t be annoying: Jason MANBEAST.

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    McOut Says:

    Also, what’s going to happen when they call up Resop? Medlen or KK to the pen? They have to call up Resop in the next two weeks if they want to keep him. He’s having a great year at AAA.

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    McOut Says:

    The same article mentions that Minor in the Majors before the end of the year is also a strong possibility. Then there’s still Delgado, Teheran, Vizcaino, and Masters. Now you see why I mentioned the possibility of trading some of these guys. Wren said Venters will probably start in the future, so the Braves have like 9 potential starters in their early 20s: Resop, Medlen, Hanson, Vizcaino, Delgado, Teheran, Masters, Minor, and Venters. Resop is the exception, since his old self is 27, lol. I guess you could put the ones who don’t start in the pen with Kimbrel, Dunn, and Marek. It just seems like a lot of pitchers when you throw in the older guys who are good like Moylan and Hudson. I didn’t mention JJ because I don’t think they can resign him, but they will still have him for a few more years. He’s a Scott Boras guy.

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    McOut Says:

    The Angels lost their best offensive player due to a walk off celebration. That really sucks.

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    Anne Says:

    Hello from Turner Field – at least in a Kawakami game I can look forward to Kawakami’s Geishas high atop Manbeast land. (I’ll join in the name fest)

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    Anne Says:

    The wimps up in the Press Box have the windows shut. Pansies!! (unless you’re there, Steve or Curt…)

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    Anne Says:

    Press Box boys are ABT comment-readers: windows now open.

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    McOut Says:

    I’m so jealous of you Atl folk. Wish I could be there. Scream Manbeast for me.

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    Anne Says:

    Raindrops falling, McOut…but I’ll scream if I can!

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    Anne Says:

    Chipper not in line-up, but autographing baseballs like a Mo Fo. Signs with his right hand (for those who care) and if you toss him a cap or a mitt to sign, he’ll throw ‘em back. Just balls. Balls!!

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    Anne Says:

    First pitch thrown out by Phil Neikro’s grandson (grandpa right there with him) caught by Chipper. Nice.

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    McOut Says:

    The radio guys were acting like we needed a hit from Ross bad because we essentially have two pitchers at the bottom of the order. They might be onto something.

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    Anne Says:

    Jurrgens in uniform in dugout – good sign for recovery (?)

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    Heyward+Hanson=World Series Ring Says:

    McLouth is doing Steve, Curt, and Hammy’s homework for the LVP discussion. 6 men left on base in his first 2 at-bats? Pathetic.

    O Schafer, where are thou?

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    Anne Says:

    Random possibly bogus observation: has Bobby Cox lost weight? He doesn’t look quite as round as he used to.

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    McOut Says:

    Malholm is blatantly pitching around Ross to get to McOut.

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    Anne Says:

    …except that McLouth at least can field well…wish he’d figure out his swing ESP against his former – and crappy – team!

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    Bub Says:

    I can’t BELIEVE Bobby Cox made as savvy and intelligent a decision as pulling KK out with 2 outs and none on base, costing him a chance at a win, to put EOF in to strike out last guy in the 7th.

    Have any of you ever seen him do that? I’ve never seen him do it. No words for how impressed I am with that move.

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    McOut Says:

    I don’t get why he didn’t pull him after the leadoff walk. I guess the guy who went yard must have been one of those by the book righty/righty match ups. He pulled him to bring EOF to face a guy hitting .174…..

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    McOut Says:

    Here’s something weird, the Braves have scored over 6 runs every game this week except Tuesday and Sunday. Guess who pitched on those days… I’ll give you a hint… his name rhymes with Salami….

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    Anne Says:

    Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

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    Anne Says:

    Triple Yessssssssssssssssssss!

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    McOut Says:

    MANBEAST!

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    Anne Says:

    I think he looked up right at me when I yelled that, McOut.

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    McOut Says:

    AWESOME!

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    Anne Says:

    Don’t tell Matty D, but I’m a little in love with Billy Wagner.

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    Anne Says:

    I also love sweeping. (Baseball sweeping, not my own.)

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    McOut Says:

    Was Steve right on his prediction for the 2nd week in a row?

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    McOut Says:

    “Chipper with a Ric Flair to LF” is right there with “I’ve been to 2 rodeos and 3 goat ropins, but I’ve never seen anything like this” as my favorite Joe Simpson sound-bites courtesy MLB.com highlights.

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    McOut Says:

    He was so proud of his Ric Flair comment that he said it twice within a span of about 5 seconds.

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    Bub Says:

    Braves haven’t lost a series since 8 series ago. And during that time they’ve swept twice (thrice if you count the 2-gamer with the Reds).

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    Steve Says:

    Hey gang. Sorry for my absence. Been running around with family and been out watching the games this weekend. What a weekend! I am stupid giddy right now. Just beside myself. And I love how the Phils series shapes up. Did I mention that I’m giddy?!?!?!?

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    4-t-8-ow-ers!!!!!!

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    McOut Says:

    I’m tempted to listen to the last April or 1st May show just to get a better idea of how far the team has come in a month. They played weaker competition, but they took care of business. That’s a far improvement from recent years when they inexplicably would drop a series to the Pirates or Reds(when they were bad). April 8-14, May 19-8. I hope the May version of the Bravos shows up for June. Tough schedule ahead, but if they play like they have been they’ll be fine.

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    Steve Says:

    Yeah Mara – I’m very, very excited. Was hanging out with Ballpark Frank last night and he’s pumped up too. I’m jealous that you’ll be at all three games. What a series! A month ago it felt like we were going to be 10 – 15 games out of first place to start June.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I was hoping I’d get to meet Ballpark Frank! Don’t be too jealous…I’m not going to tomorrow’s game just Tuesday and Wesnesday. Wednesday will be with 11 other people and only a handful of them care about the game. I hope I get to watch tomorrow’s game. I hope we win!!!!!

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    Will Says:

    Yes – last year when the Phillies slumped the Bravos matched by slumping against crap teams. Now they have a chance to make a statement. Put the boot in Bravos!

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    New show soon or not due to the holiday? McOut, sometimes I like to listen to last years’ show. Cracks me up. One time Steve called this “the Schafer Era”. He saw nothing of a broken wrist in his crystal ball.

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    Steve Says:

    New show in 30 – 60 minutes.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Happy Memorial Day ABT! I wonder if anyone on here has served our country? A friend *ahem* once told me I needed to guard against giving away too much personal info online. So if that question requires too specific an answer then just know that I thank you.

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