June 20, 2010

Show #112: Braves Continue to Roll Through the AL

Best series of the season?  Hudson’s comments.  McCann’s eyes.  And Chipper’s retirement.



225 Responses to “Show #112: Braves Continue to Roll Through the AL”

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  1. 201
    Nate Says:

    Maybe we can chip away at this lead and pick up a big win…

  2. 202
    Nate Says:

    Awful, just awful.

  3. 203
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Damon should NOT be able to talk to his team mates during a game. New rule.

  4. 204
    Nate Says:

    This guy just keeps giving them back the runs.

  5. 205
    Nate Says:

    This reminds me of the Resop/Rays fiasco where the offense tried to get back in it, but Bobby sticks with a reliever waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too long.

  6. 206
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Done and done. Bring on the Nats and his rookie.

  7. 207
    Bub Selig Says:

    Mara, TS3 is excellent. I almost rated it ahead of Toy Story, but that seemed wrong. Keep in mind that I regard everything from Nemo upward as a masterpiece. I’m a complete Pixar fanboy. It’s really splitting hairs. Even Cars, which I think a little less of, is all over my house (I never grew up, but you knew this) … lamps, toy cars, etc.

    Curt, agreed on Bird’s Iron Giant. It may be his name on the Rat flick that bumps it so high. No, no, I just love it. The colors in that one. And the french music. That scene in the fog when he’s supposed to kill the rat is the best looking Pixar scene in the canon to me.

    Will, the Rockmire clip cracks me up every time. Kind of bad that I think of his version of “take me out…” most times I hear the song now.

    Rough day at the ballyard. I’m not worried about Tommy, though. He was finding his rhythm again when the bloops and bad calls blew him up. He’s going to be fine. I hate that we’re up against it tomorrow in the standings with Strasburg, but losing first place and then regaining it again will put the Braves in a better place psychologically.

  8. 208
    Bub Selig Says:

    And Will, yes, for the most part Chip is getting better. If nothing else I like that he squirms a little, indicating somebody somewhere finally said “Dude, you must CHILL.”

  9. 209
    Bub Selig Says:

    Here’s a decent post with numbers to back what I’m sure you all feel: Tommy will be fine. (Post is from “howie1987”)

    WARNING: There are going to be numbers, so if you can’t look at numbers without peeing yourself… Might be best to back out and save yourself from finding a new pair of pants…

    Tommy Hanson
    2009: 127.2 IP – 8.18 K/9IP – 3.24 BB/9IP – 0.70 HR/9IP – .280 BABIP – 40.2 GB% – 6.9 HR/FB – 3.50 FIP – 4.03 xFIP
    2010: 86.1 IP – 8.97 K/9IP – 3.02 BB/9IP – 0.73 HR/9IP – .334 BABIP – 37.8 GB% – 6.6 HR/FB – 3.48 FIP – 4.11 xFIP

    I know some of you are looking for a new pair of pants because you didn’t listen to me… Others KNOW what those numbers mean… Strikeouts are up, walks are down, HR difference is COMPLETELY NEGLIGIBLE, as with HR per FB…

    The REAL difference in Hanson this year from last year is his BABIP (which people love to quote)… Last year his BABIP was .280, which is just a little below the league average… This year, it’s .334… BUT, do you know what his EXCPECTED BABIP is based on FB%, GB%, and LD%??? His expected BABIP is .226, but what he’s got through before today’s start was a .334… Some of you know that means he’s been ABSURDLY unlucky… To a ridiculous degree… Here’s how you would calculate what his expected BABIP would be:

    Expected BABIP = .15 * FB% + .24 * GB% + .73 * LD%

    His FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching) and his expected BABIP show that Tommy is just getting some rough breaks right now… His numbers suggest that he could be in for a good 2nd half (regression to the mean), because the numbers, the important ones (please not that there is no W-L record up there) show that his numbers are EXACTLY the same as last year, and in most cases a little bit better…

    Compare Hanson’s FIP to some other pitchers this year and see for yourself:

    Tommy Hanson 3.48 / Adam Wainwright 3.15 / Felix Hernandez 3.38 / Matt Cain 3.65 / Justin Verlander 3.40

    Calm down bridge jumpers… Hanson will be fine, which is more than I can say for some of the bipolars here

  10. 210
    Nate Says:

    Here’s another you left off: 4.50 ERA. The guy gave up like 14 runs in 7 innings this week man. Maybe that’s the reason for the latest tweet on the ABT page and me asking what has happened to Tommy Hanson. I like Hanson a lot. He’s like 23 or 24 with loads of talent, but he’s been really inconsistent this year. He’ll have a start like he did against TB and a few others where he’s dominant, but he’s also had a few like today, the White Sox game, and the Reds game. You can stat boy it up to make him look great all you want, but that only makes me think that maybe your the one who needs to calm down. 7-5, 4.50 ERA. Decent numbers. Not yet an ace.

  11. 211
    Nate Says:

    Is Hanson immune from all criticism, Bub? This is reminiscent of your McCann tirade.

  12. 212
    Nate Says:

    Sorry, I misread, I guess “howie 1987” went stat crazy. I might feel bad if I knew what half of those meant. I typically look at win-loss, ERA, and WHIP. I’m sure Tommy will be fine, but this week has been very forgettable for him.

  13. 213
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Curt told me there’d be no math.

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    Bub Selig Says:

    For the record, I’m pretty sure I’ve never said Tommy Hanson has arrived at Acedom. When Steve(?) chose him over Heyward to build a club around, I mentioned that Tommy’s still good for some rough outings, and perhaps his pitches are being tipped. Even if you subtract his three terrible outings, he doesn’t get deep enough in the game to be called an Ace by me.

    But howie’s post is a decent argument for his bad luck and probably recovery to his not-Acelike-but-very-good form.

  15. 215
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Oh COME ON! Let me be right about something!

  16. 216
    Bub Selig Says:

    I was gonna let it go, Ms. Mara. 🙂

  17. 217
    Nate Says:

    Far enough, I think you’re on to something with him tipping his pitches. He becomes very predictable late in the count. I think Hanson’s age and inexperience are the biggest factors in his struggles. He had a great 3rd inning when he was aggressive with his fastball and used that good slider as a strikeout pitch. I don’t know what was going on after that. Either they picked up on something or he was missing his spots. It’s not like he got crushed in the terrible outings today and against the Reds. He gave up too many walks and like 8 or 9 singles. When guys are getting singles in a lot of 2 strike counts, it makes me think they’re sitting on a pitch that they know he’s going to throw in that situation. All of those teams that have hit him this year have very good coaches who really understand hitting and the way a pitcher is going to work.

  18. 218
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Dammit! I’m really pissed about it! Glad the Tigers are leaving town so I don’t have to see his ugly mug. Who thinks the Braves make a mid season purchase?

  19. 219
    Bub Selig Says:

    Princess, if it makes you feel better, the early returns on Kelly Johnson, which I thought would validate my pet rant, vanished almost as entirely as the early returns on Damon.


  20. 220
    Steve Says:

    Hey gang. I’m back from some crazy food poisoning and on the mend.

    For the record, it wasn’t me that chose Hanson over Heyward. Don’t remember who it was. OK, on to the important stuff …

    My Pixar Top 10 (b/c I never saw Wall-E, I know, I know… I’m a bad person)

    1. Monsters, Inc.
    2. Toy Story 3
    3. Toy Story
    4. The Incredibles
    5. Up
    6. Finding Nemo
    7. Cars
    8. Toy Story 2
    9. A Bug’s Life
    10. Ratatouille

  21. 221
    Bub Selig Says:

    Steve, that’s awesome that you rank Monsters, Inc. at the top. That’s the only one I saw alone in a theater. Was having a bad day and I came out with severe warmfuzzies.

    Ratatouille at the bottom?? *impersonating the kid’s mom on Christmas Story heard screaming through the telephone when finding out her son taught Ralphie the F word* What? WHAAAAAAAT????!!!!!

    Sorry to hear you were poisoned, glad it’s mending.

  22. 222
    Nate Says:

    I’m feeling very optimistic about the next 12 games. It will be a great opportunity to get back to fixing the record against the NL East. We get the Nats and Fish at home before the Phils and Mets on the road. I’m thinking we’re gonna have a good week and pick up some momentum with JJ coming back before we go to Philly and NY. Great time to gain some games on the other teams before the break. Go Braves.

  23. 223
    Nate Says:

    Of the Pixar’s I’ve seen…
    1. Finding Nemo
    2. Ratatouille
    3. Toy Story
    4. Toy Story 2
    5. A Bug’s Life

  24. 224
    Steve Says:

    Yeah Bub, it just didn’t do it for me. And I’m a huge Patton Oswalt fan to boot. Did you see Big Fan with him, btw?

    Nate – I’m with you. The next 12 games, particularly the Philies and Mets scare me pretty significantly.

  25. 225
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I’m ashamed to say I just started Toy Story for my 5 year old cause I realized he’s never seen it! I should be shot.

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