Wow, another great get, guys. That was a lot of fun to listen to. Second in candid details only to Javy. Loved the Lasorta anecdote.
Hard to decide where to put the inside scoop on Bobby. To be honest, it cemented a couple of things I don’t like about Cox. But the language he used to describe a team of good players sort of self-managing unless something bad came up made me wonder if that might not be a reasonable way to manage good players after all. In other words, while I feel safe in assuming Bobby has been a detriment to the non-great Braves teams, maybe I can cut him some slack on the lack of championships during the run.
… then I recall he’s the latest to confirm the X’s and O’s shortcomings of Sir Bob.
No, he surely stinks. Bob, that is, not Sid.
Encouraging to hear that Sid feels well taken care of alumni-wise. Maybe after Glav’s and Smoltzy’s #’s are retired and Chipper retires, and Bobby… maybe some year soon it will be more greatly understood and more functions and pomp will arise.
Again, great job with the interview. Went after the juicy stuff with great tact.
Wow indeed, Steve. I guess Mrs. Utley digs the beard. Maybe he hurt his thumb by throwing a punch at Werth, but his thumb was consumed by beard and immediately destroyed.
Loved the interview…both actually. I was hoping you would ask Conrad about his lack of batting gloves. Did he ever wear them? I know he wears them when it’s cold now but has he gone through stints where he tried them and didn’t like them? Could he just not afford them early in his career? Also sad his wife missed the grand slam. Speaking of wives…I really hope that rumor link about the Wertleys isn’t true.
It really is ridiculous. And shame on the Mariners. I don’t know what they are being offered in return, but how do you expect to ever have success operating as a feeder team.
They should institute even an NBA style cap. And in the process, demand that teams actually spend money on their teams too. Or lose them.
Curt – The Mariners are getting the Yanks top prospect in return for half a season of Lee. I think it’s a good trade for Seattle who is going nowhere this season.
What will be worse for Cleveland sports fans, LeBron going to Miami or watching their former starting rotation in the WS again? Curt, LeBron is definitely a coward. He should never be mentioned in the same sentence as MJ.
As for the Yankees, can we really be that surprised. I assumed Lee and Crawford would be wearing pinstripes in 2011, but it looks like Lee will put his on a little earlier than Carl. I’m with Ham, at least he didn’t go to the Mets or Sillies. I would rather the Braves get Willingham at the deadline. I can’t wrap my head around the thought of the Braves actually having a real clean up hitter (Dunn).
Eric Stangel (Head Writer & Executive Producer) for late Show with David Letterman) Tweeted the following: :”Keeping my two year old daughter up to see the LBJ special. I want her to see the exact moment our society hit rock bottom”
Kate, I don’t really see that this is a great deal at all. Cliff Lee is a top-8 starter in the majors. With life left in his career. He is a proven commodity. Seattle is getting the top prospect from the Yankees farm system, which is one of the thinnest in baseball. The Mariners should demand more. They are dumping him. Hate to go back to it, but the Rangers have two all stars coming out of the Tex trade. Cliff Lee is a player that could make them the clear favorite to win the WS and more importantly the Rays were hot for him and that knocks them back. The Mariners are lessening their demands when they could be increasing them.
Mariners say no thanks. Reds? Rangers? Boy it’s nice to not need pitchers. Curt, do the Yankees really need a farm system? Can’t they just let everyone else develope players and buy them seasoned instead of grow them?
And yes, Esco’s lazy toss to first was enraging. I was somewhat surprised that Bobby didn’t pull him right then. He’s really lucky that Glaus was able to stay in (and by lucky I mean that I would have been even more mad).
You gotta wonder if Frenchy is going to the bench permanently if/when Beltran comes back. If I were Manuel I would leave Pagan in the starting lineup. Frency is the king of killing scoring opportunities.
Bub – I’m with you. My patience is really wearing thin. I never got that wound up last year with his stuff. But tonight, watching that looping, lazy throw to Glaus, followed by Glaus grabbing his wrist in agony – something in me snapped.
Did anyone else see Bobby do the “Linda Blair” in the dugout? Man! That was ugly! And later smoking a stogie in the post game interview? Who is this guy????
After every game, Bobby & Chino hit the showers and argue about Yunel: “That kid just infuriates me, but my shins hurt too much to climb up three steps and pull him from the game. Pass the Pert.” “Cut the boy some slack, Jefe… Can you get my back?”
Maybe he’s depressed since he lost his frosted tips. At this point, Infante should play everyday whether it be in LF, 3B, SS, or CF. I agree with Manuel that having him and Prado 1 and 2 is like having two Polancos. IMO, Heyward should probably hit 5th or 6th when he gets back. Also, why do we need McOut back, and who goes when he’s back? I’m sure McOut is a decent human being, but I would not be upset if he was just cut or traded for a player to be named later.
Catching up on Tweets and that capital guy pointed out Frenchy got 4 outs in 6 pitches. Pulling a Frenchy is anything completely antiproductive. I think yesterday was also the anniversary of his trade wasn’t it?
Poor Yunel. I didn’t see the lollipop from last night so I’m not as bitter (get it). I wonder if the success of Prado and Infante has been hard on his feelers.
Steve, that’s uncanny that you snapped then. Me, too. I’d built up a fairly proud resistance to disliking Yunel considering how fickle I am. I’ve spent a lot of words defending him, reminding fans we don’t have any Milton Bradleys or Manny’s or even Hanleys. And reminding myself that Yunel wears everything on his sleeve to the point of it being endearing.
But this week the quote from that NL scout affirming that it really is his reputation now to be petulant with is expressions and body language, and that he thinks he’s better than he is… wore my resistance thin. And that Florida article saying Hanley was “Channeling His Inner Escobar”… and then that play that literally hurt the team by hurting a player… I’m done with him.
Steve, Hammy, and Curt — with the July 31 trade deadline approaching, what trades do you think the Braves should make? Who would, or wouldn’t, you trade?
This is probably just a crazy trade idea, but I wonder if Wren and co. would consider trading Derek Lowe. Even though he’s been pitching very well and the strength of this team is the starting rotation, I also think that clearing his remaining salary would help for the future. I wonder if a Lowe-for-Magglio Ordonez trade might be a possibility. It’d be a money-for-money swap, but it would also be something helpful for both teams.
About that starting pitching of ours, I did some research on the last 15 starts of the Braves, Phils, and Mets, to get a peek at how the starting rotations are trending since ours started to gel.
Over the last 15 starts (3 for each starter): Mets starters have allowed 3 or fewer runs 8 times. Phillies have done it 9 times. Braves have done it 11 times.
Over those same 15 starts, Mets starters have allowed 2 or fewer runs 5 times, Phils 5 times, Braves NINE times. That’s right, 2 or fewer runs given up by Braves starters 9 out of their last 15 outings.
Lastly, adding up all the runs given up by starters over the last 15 starts, Phils have allowed 48, Mets have allowed 48, Braves: 29. Twenty-nine runs allowed by our starters across 15 outings.
Remember when Wren said we’re going back to a Rotation-First philosophy? I think the man’s dream is coming true.
#80: Yes, yes, and yes. How exciting is all this?!?!?! I feel the sweep today. Santana is no Halladay. And Bobby doesn’t have his Sunday lineup in. Let’s take care of them.
Wait I’m confused. Now we’re talking about wildlife? See what the all-star break does to people? Speaking of, is there any way Prado is too hurt to play? Cause, that would just be so disappointing.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Wow, another great get, guys. That was a lot of fun to listen to. Second in candid details only to Javy. Loved the Lasorta anecdote.
Hard to decide where to put the inside scoop on Bobby. To be honest, it cemented a couple of things I don’t like about Cox. But the language he used to describe a team of good players sort of self-managing unless something bad came up made me wonder if that might not be a reasonable way to manage good players after all. In other words, while I feel safe in assuming Bobby has been a detriment to the non-great Braves teams, maybe I can cut him some slack on the lack of championships during the run.
… then I recall he’s the latest to confirm the X’s and O’s shortcomings of Sir Bob.
No, he surely stinks. Bob, that is, not Sid.
Encouraging to hear that Sid feels well taken care of alumni-wise. Maybe after Glav’s and Smoltzy’s #’s are retired and Chipper retires, and Bobby… maybe some year soon it will be more greatly understood and more functions and pomp will arise.
Again, great job with the interview. Went after the juicy stuff with great tact.
July 8th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Hey Bub – thanks. Glad you liked it. It was a pretty big thrill.
So, obviously I’ve no idea if this is true, but if it is, wow. http://www.phightinphils.com/2010/07/jayson-werth-and-jennifer-utley-having-an-affair.html
July 8th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Wow indeed, Steve. I guess Mrs. Utley digs the beard. Maybe he hurt his thumb by throwing a punch at Werth, but his thumb was consumed by beard and immediately destroyed.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Twas me.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Ever hear the one about Ron Gant and Nick Esasky’s wife?
July 9th, 2010 at 12:17 am
The Bream chat was strong to quite strong. Not really surprised by his thoughts on Cox.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Loved the interview…both actually. I was hoping you would ask Conrad about his lack of batting gloves. Did he ever wear them? I know he wears them when it’s cold now but has he gone through stints where he tried them and didn’t like them? Could he just not afford them early in his career? Also sad his wife missed the grand slam. Speaking of wives…I really hope that rumor link about the Wertleys isn’t true.
July 9th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
I hate the Yankees.
July 9th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Me too Kate.
July 9th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
It really is ridiculous. And shame on the Mariners. I don’t know what they are being offered in return, but how do you expect to ever have success operating as a feeder team.
They should institute even an NBA style cap. And in the process, demand that teams actually spend money on their teams too. Or lose them.
July 9th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Lebron James is a coward, by the way
July 9th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
#8 and #9 = totally true. If they friggin get Cliff Lee . . .
Then again, better them than the Mets (I think).
You all have any thoughts on who we should go after at the trade deadline? Dunn?
July 9th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Curt – The Mariners are getting the Yanks top prospect in return for half a season of Lee. I think it’s a good trade for Seattle who is going nowhere this season.
July 9th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
What will be worse for Cleveland sports fans, LeBron going to Miami or watching their former starting rotation in the WS again? Curt, LeBron is definitely a coward. He should never be mentioned in the same sentence as MJ.
As for the Yankees, can we really be that surprised. I assumed Lee and Crawford would be wearing pinstripes in 2011, but it looks like Lee will put his on a little earlier than Carl. I’m with Ham, at least he didn’t go to the Mets or Sillies. I would rather the Braves get Willingham at the deadline. I can’t wrap my head around the thought of the Braves actually having a real clean up hitter (Dunn).
July 9th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Prado – 4 Infante – 9 Chipper – 5 McCann – 2 Glaus – 3 Hinske – 7 Escobar – 6 Cabrera – 8 Hanson – 1
Now will the Yanks trade Javy and if so would the Phillies go after him? That would scare me almost as much.
July 9th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
ahem
July 9th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Brilliant (and stolen from DOB):
Eric Stangel (Head Writer & Executive Producer) for late Show with David Letterman) Tweeted the following: :”Keeping my two year old daughter up to see the LBJ special. I want her to see the exact moment our society hit rock bottom”
July 9th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Kate, I don’t really see that this is a great deal at all. Cliff Lee is a top-8 starter in the majors. With life left in his career. He is a proven commodity. Seattle is getting the top prospect from the Yankees farm system, which is one of the thinnest in baseball. The Mariners should demand more. They are dumping him. Hate to go back to it, but the Rangers have two all stars coming out of the Tex trade. Cliff Lee is a player that could make them the clear favorite to win the WS and more importantly the Rays were hot for him and that knocks them back. The Mariners are lessening their demands when they could be increasing them.
July 9th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Mariners say no thanks. Reds? Rangers? Boy it’s nice to not need pitchers. Curt, do the Yankees really need a farm system? Can’t they just let everyone else develope players and buy them seasoned instead of grow them?
July 9th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
The Mariners got a better deal for half a season of Lee than the Phils got for a full season.
July 9th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Watching on gameday. How’s Tommy look?
July 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Anybody there? Remember the days when we’d watch games and chat? Oh the good ole days.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Geez, this is getting ridiculous.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Escobar possibly costing the Braves the game and a first baseman this inning….
July 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Does Escobar want to be traded?
July 9th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Hanson will get no W tonight because of garbage defense from his teammates. I hope we can get this one and not fall to 1-5 against the Mets.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Melk Dog!
July 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
OMAR!
July 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Omar and Melky just dominating the knuckleball this evening.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Kate, I was previously a “give Escobar a chance to turn it around” kind of guy. Now, not so much.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Wahoo! Back to back jacks!
July 9th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
The Reds are the kings of blowing big ninth inning leads.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Gotta love Frenchy! What a huge out.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
And yes, Esco’s lazy toss to first was enraging. I was somewhat surprised that Bobby didn’t pull him right then. He’s really lucky that Glaus was able to stay in (and by lucky I mean that I would have been even more mad).
July 9th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
You gotta wonder if Frenchy is going to the bench permanently if/when Beltran comes back. If I were Manuel I would leave Pagan in the starting lineup. Frency is the king of killing scoring opportunities.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Ironically, after I typed that he made a great catch to kill a Braves scoring opportunity. Karma.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Philly wins 9-7. Unbelievable.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Yes sir!
July 9th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Watching the interview with Jerome Jurenovich and Omar Infante translated by Martin Prado was perfectly awesome.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
I’m officially looking forward to the day when Yunel Escobar is not an Atlanta Brave. He has finally completely broken me. I can not stand the guy.
When he makes a good play, I’ll be glad about it, but I won’t cheer. I’ll never cheer for Yunel Escobar again.
The end.
GREAT WIN!!! GO BRAVE!!!
July 10th, 2010 at 12:15 am
Bub – I’m with you. My patience is really wearing thin. I never got that wound up last year with his stuff. But tonight, watching that looping, lazy throw to Glaus, followed by Glaus grabbing his wrist in agony – something in me snapped.
July 10th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Did anyone else see Bobby do the “Linda Blair” in the dugout? Man! That was ugly! And later smoking a stogie in the post game interview? Who is this guy????
July 10th, 2010 at 1:12 am
Steve, I’m still in Yuney Esco’s camp… He will win a game for the Braves soon, and when he does…Trade Him!
July 10th, 2010 at 7:43 am
After every game, Bobby & Chino hit the showers and argue about Yunel: “That kid just infuriates me, but my shins hurt too much to climb up three steps and pull him from the game. Pass the Pert.” “Cut the boy some slack, Jefe… Can you get my back?”
I need another cup of coffee!
July 10th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Maybe he’s depressed since he lost his frosted tips. At this point, Infante should play everyday whether it be in LF, 3B, SS, or CF. I agree with Manuel that having him and Prado 1 and 2 is like having two Polancos. IMO, Heyward should probably hit 5th or 6th when he gets back. Also, why do we need McOut back, and who goes when he’s back? I’m sure McOut is a decent human being, but I would not be upset if he was just cut or traded for a player to be named later.
July 10th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Catching up on Tweets and that capital guy pointed out Frenchy got 4 outs in 6 pitches. Pulling a Frenchy is anything completely antiproductive. I think yesterday was also the anniversary of his trade wasn’t it?
July 10th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Poor Yunel. I didn’t see the lollipop from last night so I’m not as bitter (get it). I wonder if the success of Prado and Infante has been hard on his feelers.
July 10th, 2010 at 11:50 am
“Pass the Pert.” That made me chuckle.
Steve, that’s uncanny that you snapped then. Me, too. I’d built up a fairly proud resistance to disliking Yunel considering how fickle I am. I’ve spent a lot of words defending him, reminding fans we don’t have any Milton Bradleys or Manny’s or even Hanleys. And reminding myself that Yunel wears everything on his sleeve to the point of it being endearing.
But this week the quote from that NL scout affirming that it really is his reputation now to be petulant with is expressions and body language, and that he thinks he’s better than he is… wore my resistance thin. And that Florida article saying Hanley was “Channeling His Inner Escobar”… and then that play that literally hurt the team by hurting a player… I’m done with him.
July 10th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I don’t know why but I’m giving him another chance. I anticipate something special today.
July 10th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Today’s lineup: Prado – 4 Cabrera – 8 Chipper – 5 McCann – 2 Glaus – 3 Hinske – 7 Infante – 9 Escobar – 6 Hudson – 1
July 10th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Today’s lineup:
Prado
Cabrera
Chipper
McCann
Glaus
Hinske
XXXXXXX
Hudson
July 10th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Bub, is Esco the new “He who shall remain nameless”?
July 10th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
He is for me. 8)
July 10th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y410SQD2mz8
That is me and Yunel Escobar. Done with Esco.
July 10th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I didn’t see the stupid, no good, potentially game wrecking play last night but I’m curious who was running? Could he have been faster than expected?
July 10th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Mara, it was Frenchy, so Yunel should know the guy can run pretty well.
July 10th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Mara, it was inexcusable. I urge you not to go down that road…
July 10th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/210626-escobar-the-enigma
That’s where we were a year ago. And that’s where we still are.
July 10th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Okie dokie.
July 10th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Really Chipper? Wow.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Hinske… yikes.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Steve, Hammy, and Curt — with the July 31 trade deadline approaching, what trades do you think the Braves should make? Who would, or wouldn’t, you trade?
This is probably just a crazy trade idea, but I wonder if Wren and co. would consider trading Derek Lowe. Even though he’s been pitching very well and the strength of this team is the starting rotation, I also think that clearing his remaining salary would help for the future. I wonder if a Lowe-for-Magglio Ordonez trade might be a possibility. It’d be a money-for-money swap, but it would also be something helpful for both teams.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Just drove by PNC Park. No Pirates just Dave Matthew’s Band. Now watching our boys while I wait for my steak sandwich at Primanti Bros.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Oh no…no no no.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Of my god, please don’t be hurt.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
…………….
July 10th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Yea, a run.
July 10th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Come on, XXXXXXX, drive ‘em in. Get us some runs and raise your trade value!
July 10th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
… or hit into a double play.
July 10th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
He pulled a Frenchy.
July 10th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I am the best girlfriend EVER – cooking dinner @ the boyfriend’s house. Tuned in to the yahoos on Fox, though. Go Braves!!
July 10th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
See there? Matty D heard I can cook, and gives us a double.
July 10th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Mara, how was Primanti Bros.?
July 10th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
I love that Hudson was still mad at himself at the end of the inning even though there was no real trouble. Good man.
July 10th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Alright!
July 10th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Nate, it was pretty good. Next time I think I’ll have my fries on the side. Good win! Let’s sweep!
July 10th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
This is pretty impressive stuff going into the AS break
July 10th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Awesome. Baseball. Team.
July 10th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
‘fo shizzle.
July 10th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
About that starting pitching of ours, I did some research on the last 15 starts of the Braves, Phils, and Mets, to get a peek at how the starting rotations are trending since ours started to gel.
Over the last 15 starts (3 for each starter): Mets starters have allowed 3 or fewer runs 8 times. Phillies have done it 9 times. Braves have done it 11 times.
Over those same 15 starts, Mets starters have allowed 2 or fewer runs 5 times, Phils 5 times, Braves NINE times. That’s right, 2 or fewer runs given up by Braves starters 9 out of their last 15 outings.
Lastly, adding up all the runs given up by starters over the last 15 starts, Phils have allowed 48, Mets have allowed 48, Braves: 29. Twenty-nine runs allowed by our starters across 15 outings.
Remember when Wren said we’re going back to a Rotation-First philosophy? I think the man’s dream is coming true.
July 10th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Good stuff, Bub.
July 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am
#80 would make a damn fine blog entry if you ask me. If I wasn’t such a polite southern lady I’d bring it up. *sigh* but I won’t.
July 11th, 2010 at 9:45 am
SAWEEEP! I hope Lowedemort stays home and tends his azaleas so D. Lowe can pitch like a mad man.
July 11th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Mara, that was hilarious.
July 11th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
#80: Yes, yes, and yes. How exciting is all this?!?!?! I feel the sweep today. Santana is no Halladay. And Bobby doesn’t have his Sunday lineup in. Let’s take care of them.
July 11th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Lol, could Melky have gotten a worse jump on that attempted sacrifice?
July 11th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
That Angel is a boil on our backside.
July 11th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
No fits Yunel.
July 11th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
What a clown
July 11th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Wonder what Frenchy and Chipper are chatting about?
July 11th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Haha. Frenchy looked like he was trying to knock over a tree.
July 11th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Come on Netherlands
July 11th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Easy Martin. Walk it off buddy.
July 11th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Hey, I just read somewhere that McLouth hit a homer today.
July 11th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Nice play by Yunel. All star break could not come soon enough for our 1st baseman. He looks creaky.
July 11th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Wrong Board Curt. Time to score boys!
July 11th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Poo.
July 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
That might be the game right there. Walking into Despicable Me. Go braves
July 11th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Bring on Meds!
July 11th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Sad getting shut out but glad we won the series. And it was house money so I hear. Time to recharge the batteries.
July 11th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Watching the World Cup final- I see I didn’t miss much with the Braves game. Oh well. It was a good first half of the season.
July 11th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Stupid Spain. The curse of Curt lives on.
July 11th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Oh Curt, don’t be bitter. The Dutch are the Buffalo Bills of International soccer.
July 11th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Blah blah blah.
July 11th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Would you ask the fish to stop swimming?
July 11th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Wait I’m confused. Now we’re talking about wildlife? See what the all-star break does to people? Speaking of, is there any way Prado is too hurt to play? Cause, that would just be so disappointing.