Classroom of kids? Baseball is not a public service.
Yunel’s hitting .438 in Toronto and you think, what… he’s coming out of a slump? Please. If he DOES catch fire immediately after leaving the Braves, it’s all the more reason to understand he was not going to hit here.
Putting Infante in to increase Yunel’s trade value? How does that work?
Yunel Escobar is a punk. A bad seed. As his career progresses, whatever doubt you have left will be answered. Remember how Manny exploded for L.A. when he first got there? But wherever you go, there you are. And nobody as petulant as that kid is going to reform himself permanently in the name of an I-Told-You-So.
Who curses at the official scorer? Who does that? Who is so self-involved that the circumstance of the game (runner on first after either an infield hit or error) that they’re completely laid under not because the game is at risk, but because it was scored an error.
Good riddance. I don’t care what he does in Toronto or what Alex Gonzalez does here (though 2 ESPN webgems from just today’s game is mighty nice), this team is much more root-able with him gone.
Good show guys. I have to agree that the Braves sold way low on Yunel. I don’t see how the team is better without him and with Alex Gonzalez. Was the team chemistry really an issue? The Braves worry about team chemistry more than any organization in any sport. It’s border line ridiculous. It sounds like we got rid of Yunel for being an outcast. He had a bad half of a season, and the Braves were still in first. I think if you throw in a left handed minor league relief pitcher Wren will go for almost any trade. This trade also makes the Tex trade hurt even worse. To me it means the organization is admitting they got the Yunel or Elvis question wrong.
As far as offense goes, I think the Braves have enough to win the East and get to the playoffs and perhaps get home field advantage. I’ve seen a lot of Braves teams do such things and then not hit in the playoffs. This feels like one of those teams. The playoffs would be great. We haven’t been in a while. It might be worth it to gamble with this lineup just to save the young pitchers in the organization. Then maybe they can add Crawford or Werth in the offseason.
Maybe they could have used Yunel as a piece in acquiring a corner outfielder for the post season run? Let Infante play SS for the rest of the season? Heyward has said that he could play CF and has before.
Bub, we get it. You don’t like Yunel and you are happy they got rid of him.
Great show guys. I’m nervous about the Padres series. Our offense needs to bust it wide open and early. Fingers crossed…
What poker phrase do we use for the fun of having Phillies and Mets lose on a night off?
Oooooo! Just got an ugly look from a Mets fan. Yea buddy, my visor has an Atlanta A on it. Whatcha gotta say about that? Huh?
It’s ok. I may not be able to take him but I can certainly outrun him. Besides, he’d get to my kids first. It’s good they learn to defend themselves while their young.
Me: Son, so you want to try and get some autographs from the players (as I point to the dugout in front of us cause it’s just to hot to walk to the other one).
Son: Who are they affiliated with (yes he’s that smart)?
Me: the Pirates
Son: No thanks.
You haven’t heard anything bad about Escobar? Take a look and read Buster Olney’s column about how a team member, for his birthday, just wanted YE to play hard that day… If Alex doesn’t hit a lick, forget the clubhouse, he will be a professional ON THE FIELD, he will field his position EVERY PLAY. BIG DEAL when you don’t score a lot of runs. BIG DEAL when all the other players have one less thing on their mind (“is our shortstop going to play hard today?”, “is he going to make an error and sit on the bench and sulk?”) every game.
A quote from YE: “I was giving it my all when I was in Atlanta, so I can’t say I would have played any different,” he said.
REALLY?!?! His all??? PLEASE!!!
OBTW – The phrase is “Eat your cake and have it too”, which is an impossiblity. Most people say it incorrectly. Same with “I could care less”. It is “I couldn’t care less”. If you “could care less”, it means you do care…
And to my suprize, you didn’t mention any joy at never having to see Jo-jo in a Braves uni again…
That was one of the high points of the trade for me.
As for YE in Canada… Frenchy looked pretty good after he left, at first. YE needed a change of scenery. Mostly because he had dug such a big hole for himself. I had high hopes for him with Melky on the team.
Melky had come in and shown the Latin players “how things are supposed to be done”, reminded them of the example they needed to set for the kids in the countries they are from, etc. It seemed to be working on YE at first, but when he was slumping, we saw his true character…
M in M – welcome to the board and thank you for bringing more sanity to the YE discussion. Bub and I couldn’t do it alone. I agree with you 100%. Just like with Frenchy last year (but for different reasons) it does not matter, one bit, how YE performs in Toronto.
Just got back from watching the game with Will-son and his bro. It was cool to be out and have so many people at a sports bar be so into the game – good and bad for tonight’s. But definitely a different vibe in the city than the last few years. Now we just need to win this game.
Oswalt wants his option for next year guaranteed before he will agree to a trade and the Phils are apparently not interested in that.
…are you kidding me?? “Wait, Wait…” last weekend had a quote from someone about Steinbrenner, something like: if you got a phone call in the middle of the night, you knew it was him, or a death in the family. After a while, you hoped for a death in the family.
Oh, right…you’re a very brave man, Curt. I can 99.9% guarantee beer…which will certainly make it all better. Tell them all – OK, the boys – to take off their shirts and wave ‘em when the camera comes ’round.
I do. Our crew left at 2:40 because that was about all the kids (and the adults) could take. Only one bathroom break + one ice cream run + three demands that the kids stop kicking the guy in front of us. A fun and entertaining day at the park. And thankfully the woman who runs the group is a Braves fan so we had pretty good seats in the shade.
Curt – good for you to get out of the sun. We made it to the pitching change in the 7th…I think it was the 7th…heatstroke prevents me from remembering what happened two hours ago. Turns out we missed nothing.
Great game… Go Braves Road Trip!!
ham, agreed. it was awesome for the guys to come out and stick it to the padres after last night. where is all this money coming from in the ‘lou? they had to sign holliday last offseason, they need to resign el hombre after this year, and now they’re talking about adding oswalt???
Very, very nice to take care of business today. Mara – re your #75 – I was screaming at the TV. After all the time gone and all the scrutiny on his game, he’s going to STILL pull that no throwing the ball crap?!?!? Unbelievable.
Btw, time to bring back the Glaus ceiling…it worked last time. Rather it worked when you threatened to axe it. So bring it back quick and then axe it.
Nate, my favorite part was how he met his second wife.
Funniest thing I have heard so far was on ESPN (I think subbing for Mike & Mike or on Mike & Mike), Buster talk about how when Gonzo came into the locker room for the first time, the Brave’s players gave him a STANDING OVATION!!!
Actions speak louder than words…
OBTW – it is “Eat your cake and have it too”. You can’t eat it and still have it… You CAN have it and then eat it…
I just got home from work to realize we’re playing in FLA, so I get to watch. I hope the weather in Miami is better than it is here in TB. Mark, I saw that from Olney last week and thought it was pretty cool. Judging from post game quotes over the past week, Escobar was liked by none. His character traits are the reason he was only given a half season to slump while players like Frenchy are given much longer. I would love to see the good vibes in the clubhouse translate into more consistent play. We had two great games in the Padres series. I’m not going to forget that we split a series with a team that almost got swept by the Pirates this week. Go Braves!
I saw on FSMarlins that Cody Ross and Dan Uggla’s pregame routine includes smacking each other on the ass (not uncommon for ballplayers), which is then followed by kissing each other on the cheek… is this weird to anyone else? Oh great, a double McOut.
Mara, Wags said he’s all good in his postgammers. I look for a big win today. Chip, Mac, and Wags seemed more than ticked with the way that one ended last night.
Curt, thanks for the link. Our pitching depth is just money in the bank.
Steve, he did seem to be throwing his slider a lot more than usual last night.
Sure enough, the Marlins 9th inning rally was started with a walk to Braves-killer Wes Helms. I don’t know what the deal with mediocre former players, except Frenchy, coming back to burn us. Remember KJ’s 9 run 8 rbi (something like that) series in Arizona earlier this year?
Nate, re: Wes Helms. Curt is always remarking that the Braves should sign him and simply bury him on the bench so that we no longer have to face him. It’s uncanny how he’s in the middle of so much Marlins-inflicted pain.
Curt, #173, absolutely. I’d throw Chip in that discussion, too. Walks and singles from the 3-hole is not enough. Mac is heating up, but our 3,5, and 6 are just not doing much of anything right now, unless a lefty is pitching and Diaz plays.
I think McLouth has got to be pulled from this lineup. It’s a disservice to guys who produced while he was out. I understand you shouldn’t lose your job due to an injury. You should, however, lose your job due to to the fact that you suck.
Curt, on the Diaz thing, the Marlins’ announcers have been saying that for the last two games. They are loving the fact that Cox is, for some reason, refusing to play a guy who is hitting .381 with 8 hr and 52 RBI against the Fish.
Mara, you should love the Fish pen. Their ERA against the Braves was over 8 before the Conrad Slam. The error by Cantu definitely hid the questionable call to have Gonzo sacrifice in front of McTerrible.
Man, if I was the Padres I would definitely go after Uggla. They need middle infielders and hitting badly. I don’t know if he could play outfield for the Braves. I like MVPrado at 2nd, and why mess with such a good thing?
I just explained the Wes Helms vs Braves phenomenon to the elderly gentleman sitting next to us. He says marlins’ fans feel the same way about MCann, which I thought unfair since McCann is 5000x the player Helms is.
Sosa’s problem has always been when he tried to “put a little extra” on a pitch. He tended to rotate his body a little harder, which caused his hand to drift outside his arm (he needs his hand to come right over his elbow), which turned his fastball into a “hanging” slider-ish pitch… And it would get HIT!
Back at the car. Super bummed. Really, we should of won that game way before the 8th when Chipper tied it. Volstad was pitching on minimal rest, and we only got 2 on him. I don’t know if you can attribute that to a Sunday lineup since a lot of regulars played today. I like Conrad. The slams have been great, but how does Omar not get a start. He is much better against righties, but Cox seems to be only giving him starts against lefties. Anyway, we’ve been pretty unsuccessful in extra inning games lately, so I’m not surprised we lost in extras (the other team eventually gets Chavez every time). This is a great team we’ve got, but I think we’re gonna need more offense.