July 19, 2010

Show #117: Breaking into the Second Half

All Star MVP. Yunel Out, Gonzo In. Saying Goodbye to the Boss(?). Looking Ahead to the Second Half.

 

 

282 Responses to “Show #117: Breaking into the Second Half”

  1. 1
    Curt Says:

    Long show folks. Hang in there.

  2. 2
    Bub Selig Says:

    Classroom of kids? Baseball is not a public service.

    Yunel’s hitting .438 in Toronto and you think, what… he’s coming out of a slump? Please. If he DOES catch fire immediately after leaving the Braves, it’s all the more reason to understand he was not going to hit here.

    Putting Infante in to increase Yunel’s trade value? How does that work?

    Yunel Escobar is a punk. A bad seed. As his career progresses, whatever doubt you have left will be answered. Remember how Manny exploded for L.A. when he first got there? But wherever you go, there you are. And nobody as petulant as that kid is going to reform himself permanently in the name of an I-Told-You-So.

    Who curses at the official scorer? Who does that? Who is so self-involved that the circumstance of the game (runner on first after either an infield hit or error) that they’re completely laid under not because the game is at risk, but because it was scored an error.

    Good riddance. I don’t care what he does in Toronto or what Alex Gonzalez does here (though 2 ESPN webgems from just today’s game is mighty nice), this team is much more root-able with him gone.

  3. 3
    Nate Says:

    Good show guys. I have to agree that the Braves sold way low on Yunel. I don’t see how the team is better without him and with Alex Gonzalez. Was the team chemistry really an issue? The Braves worry about team chemistry more than any organization in any sport. It’s border line ridiculous. It sounds like we got rid of Yunel for being an outcast. He had a bad half of a season, and the Braves were still in first. I think if you throw in a left handed minor league relief pitcher Wren will go for almost any trade. This trade also makes the Tex trade hurt even worse. To me it means the organization is admitting they got the Yunel or Elvis question wrong.

    As far as offense goes, I think the Braves have enough to win the East and get to the playoffs and perhaps get home field advantage. I’ve seen a lot of Braves teams do such things and then not hit in the playoffs. This feels like one of those teams. The playoffs would be great. We haven’t been in a while. It might be worth it to gamble with this lineup just to save the young pitchers in the organization. Then maybe they can add Crawford or Werth in the offseason.

  4. 4
    Curt Says:

    Maybe they could have used Yunel as a piece in acquiring a corner outfielder for the post season run? Let Infante play SS for the rest of the season? Heyward has said that he could play CF and has before.

    Bub, we get it. You don’t like Yunel and you are happy they got rid of him.

  5. 5
    Kate Says:

    Jonny V. suspended four games for throwing at Fielder.

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    Marra Wanna Says:

    You have got to be kidding! That seems excessive. Didn’t Heyward and someone else get hit also?

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    Kate Says:

    Bobby also suspended for one game.

    Mara, Heyward and Glaus were hit in the same inning of yesterdays game. No Brewers were ejected.

  8. 8
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Here come Mr. Angry eyes. The Rev and I are debating whether or not Jonny’s pitch was intentionally. Now he’s calling Jonny a thug because he knows it will piss me off.

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    Bub Selig Says:

    K, so if you make the same point over and over, that’s fine. But if I respond to it the same way over and over, it’s “we get it,” as if everybody else has moved on.

    Smell ya later.

  10. 10
    Curt Says:

    It was a joke Bub

  11. 11
    Nate Says:

    cards 8 phils 4 bot 6

  12. 12
    Nate Says:

    Lol, Yunel hit another HR. So far, he’s 2-4 tonight with the hr and 2 rbi.
    D’backs 5 Mets 0 bot 2.
    Cards 8 Phils 4 F

  13. 13
    Curt Says:

    Mets now down 6-0. Could be a profitable day off.

  14. 14
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Great show guys. I’m nervous about the Padres series. Our offense needs to bust it wide open and early. Fingers crossed…
    What poker phrase do we use for the fun of having Phillies and Mets lose on a night off?

  15. 15
    Curt Says:

    Flush

  16. 16
    Anne Says:

    Lookin’ forward to this Padre series. For the first time in a while, I’m attending all three. Go Braves!

  17. 17
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Nice one Curt. What would a royal flush be? Yankees get swept by the Orioles the same day?

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    Steve Says:

    Mara – agreed. Definitely want to see some big offense this week. And, PLEASE, let Nate McLouth be really good or really bad this week so Frank knows which way to go.

  19. 19
    Nate Says:

    Any news on who goes to make room for McLouth?

  20. 20
    Ham Says:

    Gotta be Blanco. No one else makes sense.

  21. 21
    Marra Wanna Says:

    As if Blanco makes sense. In other news…I’m at the Somerset Patriots game with the kiddos. 9 to caught a foul ball before we even entered the park. Steve, I k ow how that must make you feel.

  22. 22
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Oooooo! Just got an ugly look from a Mets fan. Yea buddy, my visor has an Atlanta A on it. Whatcha gotta say about that? Huh?
    It’s ok. I may not be able to take him but I can certainly outrun him. Besides, he’d get to my kids first. It’s good they learn to defend themselves while their young.

  23. 23
    Curt Says:

    Just throw some hair product and a gold chain at him and we he stops to admire it, run away

  24. 24
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Hilarious! This guy definitely fits that profile.

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    Steve Says:

    Mara – you’re right. I am a small person and mad at your 9 year old right now.

    Nate – got to be Blanco. Who else would it be?

    So, the best thing about this article is certainly the title, but it’s kind of fun to read the Philly misery and the begrudging Braves props in the 2nd half. BEWARE: it’s a little blue. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/422402-nl-east-race-the-devil-wears-prado

  26. 26
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Me: Son, so you want to try and get some autographs from the players (as I point to the dugout in front of us cause it’s just to hot to walk to the other one).
    Son: Who are they affiliated with (yes he’s that smart)?
    Me: the Pirates
    Son: No thanks.

  27. 27
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Steve, the funny thing is a guy about your age (you know, older than me) saw it as well and looked a little green.

  28. 28
    Curt Says:

    In all fairness, Steve is older than everyone.

  29. 29
    Steve Says:

    For the record I’m not as old as Methuselah or Bobby.

    So, no McOut in the lineup tonight. I’m very surprised by that.

  30. 30
    Marra Wanna Says:

    I’m nervous about this series.

  31. 31
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Can we just keep Melky?

  32. 32
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Clearly Prado misses me.

  33. 33
    Nate Says:

    Diaz. Huge.

  34. 34
    Anne Says:

    Chino is managing a GREAT game. When Prado slid into 2nd and called safe, I heard him yell “Mara!!!”
    NICE on Heyward…and ain’t nobody out. GO Braves!!

  35. 35
    Nate Says:

    cards 6 phils 0 bot 5

  36. 36
    Curt Says:

    Anne, you must have passed out with all this Diaz love

  37. 37
    Curt Says:

    Cards 6 – Phils Dah

  38. 38
    Curt Says:

    Nate, I should read the board

  39. 39
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Thanks for telling me Anne. I’m sure he’ll let me know when he calls me ‘fo my personal post game report.

  40. 40
    Curt Says:

    Leah, tell Bub to get back on here

  41. 41
    Nate Says:

    phils lost, mets losing. both good things.

  42. 42
    Anne Says:

    Diaz = player of the game. I did not pass out, but I did swoon a little.

    Earlier question about McOut…I overheard some dude behind me saying that he’s off the DL tomorrow.

    Hey, so here’s a question: the Braves get the win tonight…Jurrjens gets the win tonight…but Bobby does not. Correct?

  43. 43
    Marra Wanna Says:

    I’ll check on him Curt. I bet he was either kidding or had a bad day. I’m sure he’ll be back.

  44. 44
    Marra Wanna Says:

    Holy crap you guys…look at the standings! I might have to make that my screen saver!

  45. 45
    Nate Says:

    snakes 3 mets 2 F

  46. 46
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Steve, just now able to check out #25 link. Loved it!

  47. 47
    Bub Selig Says:

    Curt, it’s no big deal. I’ll be back after a while. Take care.

  48. 48
    will Says:

    Curt – go sit in the corner.

  49. 49
    Nate Says:

    No one at ESPN can pronounce Chino Cadahia’s name.

  50. 50
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Sad news out of San Diego: David Eckstein goes on 30-day DL with a sore left he’s terrible at baseball.

    That’s what happens when you try to run through B Mac.

  51. 51
    Curt Says:

    While we are at it, Jamie Moyer pulled his old hack last night and might be headed to the 15-day DL.

  52. 52
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    You haven’t heard anything bad about Escobar? Take a look and read Buster Olney’s column about how a team member, for his birthday, just wanted YE to play hard that day… If Alex doesn’t hit a lick, forget the clubhouse, he will be a professional ON THE FIELD, he will field his position EVERY PLAY. BIG DEAL when you don’t score a lot of runs. BIG DEAL when all the other players have one less thing on their mind (“is our shortstop going to play hard today?”, “is he going to make an error and sit on the bench and sulk?”) every game.

    A quote from YE: “I was giving it my all when I was in Atlanta, so I can’t say I would have played any different,” he said.

    REALLY?!?! His all??? PLEASE!!!

    OBTW – The phrase is “Eat your cake and have it too”, which is an impossiblity. Most people say it incorrectly. Same with “I could care less”. It is “I couldn’t care less”. If you “could care less”, it means you do care…

  53. 53
    Anne Says:

    “how a team member, for his birthday, just wanted YE to play hard that day” HAHAHAHAHA. Very nice, Mark!

  54. 54
    Anne Says:

    “Mara” thanks for the new euphemism: “personal post-game report.” Niiiiice.

  55. 55
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    And to my suprize, you didn’t mention any joy at never having to see Jo-jo in a Braves uni again…

    That was one of the high points of the trade for me.

    As for YE in Canada… Frenchy looked pretty good after he left, at first. YE needed a change of scenery. Mostly because he had dug such a big hole for himself. I had high hopes for him with Melky on the team.

    Melky had come in and shown the Latin players “how things are supposed to be done”, reminded them of the example they needed to set for the kids in the countries they are from, etc. It seemed to be working on YE at first, but when he was slumping, we saw his true character…

  56. 56
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Check YE again the first time he hits a slump…

  57. 57
    Mara Wanna Says:

    BUB! You have a twin! M in M…I am so with you on the whole “couldn’t care less”…drives me crazy. Isn’t it “have your cake and eat it too”?

  58. 58
    Steve Says:

    M in M – welcome to the board and thank you for bringing more sanity to the YE discussion. Bub and I couldn’t do it alone. I agree with you 100%. Just like with Frenchy last year (but for different reasons) it does not matter, one bit, how YE performs in Toronto.

  59. 59
    Steve Says:

    So, McOut is back in the lineup tonight. Let’s make our predictions about where he bats in the lineup. While he should absolutely bat 8th, I bet Bobby puts him at 7.

  60. 60
    Curt Says:

    I think 8. I bet Gonzalez is 7

  61. 61
    Ham Says:

    Et tu, Stevie? Don’t equate having more people on your side with bringing more sanity to the conversation. The opposite may well be true.

    I say McOut goes 7 and the Gonze goes 8 b/c Garland is a rightie.

  62. 62
    Steve Says:

    Curt wins the prize. McOut is 8. The Gonz is 7. I hate that Hinske is in. I know it’s a righty, but keep Diaz in there.

  63. 63
    Anne Says:

    #62 – Steve, “that’s what she said.”

    Headed to the ballpark…Go Braves!

  64. 64
    Nate Says:

    Hearing John Kruk admit the Phillies suck is awesome. They do suck. They’re gonna need a lot more than Oswalt to get it together.

  65. 65
    Anne Says:

    It is HOT with no breeze to speak of. In other news, McOut is certainly not hot in the outfield…let’s see what he does at bat later this inning.

  66. 66
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I have come to the conclusion that this team…is really good. :)

  67. 67
    Anne Says:

    Tommy seems to enjoy pitching more when he’s the current WP.

  68. 68
    Anne Says:

    …or not…Yikes!

  69. 69
    Anne Says:

    Bud Black was right to argue that. Lucky call in our favor.

  70. 70
    Mara Wanna Says:

    You know your having a bad night when McOut hits a single off you. Go Braves!

  71. 71
    Mara Wanna Says:

    You’re…I’ve been at a water park all day with 3 kids.

  72. 72
    Ham Says:

    Uggghhhh – I just got home and logged on to the game thinking it would be great to watch the last inning. WRONG!

  73. 73
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Woopsie. Really hoping for a walk off something or other. Their bullpen is sick.

  74. 74
    Anne Says:

    Not happy times here @ The Ted.

  75. 75
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Anne, it sounded like the crowd was giving McSucks grief about not throwing at least pretending to get the ball back in. Did I imagine/wish that?

  76. 76
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ok…no more messing around. Let’s end it right here!

  77. 77
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Did I mention I’m tired? *sigh*

  78. 78
    Anne Says:

    “Mara,” yes, but they gave him MORE grief for that pop-out. 12 is it for me. Going home. Wake me when it’s over.

  79. 79
    Curt Says:

    Just got back from watching the game with Will-son and his bro. It was cool to be out and have so many people at a sports bar be so into the game – good and bad for tonight’s. But definitely a different vibe in the city than the last few years. Now we just need to win this game.

    Oswalt wants his option for next year guaranteed before he will agree to a trade and the Phils are apparently not interested in that.

  80. 80
    Curt Says:

    Hopefully the Mets score holds and we don’t lose ground. That was a gut puncher.

  81. 81
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Win some lose some. I miss Blanco.

  82. 82
    Nate Says:

    Buenos Dias ABT, Los Mets lost. It’s all good. Go Braves!

  83. 83
    Mara Wanna Says:

    It’ll all be better if we win tonight.

  84. 84
    Anne Says:

    Thursday Day Game-goers: Stop by and wave at me: Section 211, Row 2. Me, the Boyfriend, his daughter. …and sunscreen. Go Braves!!

  85. 85
    Kate Says:

    The Mets are trying to trade Frenchy.

  86. 86
    Anne Says:

    #85 makes me happy…and sad.

    In other news (literally)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/22/sports/baseball/22rhoden.html?ref=sports

    …are you kidding me?? “Wait, Wait…” last weekend had a quote from someone about Steinbrenner, something like: if you got a phone call in the middle of the night, you knew it was him, or a death in the family. After a while, you hoped for a death in the family.

  87. 87
    Curt Says:

    Anne, I’ll be the guy with 35 kids in section 401. Hopefully there is shade up there. And beer.

  88. 88
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Laughing at the mental image of Curt buying beer in between bathroom breaks.

  89. 89
    Anne Says:

    Oh, right…you’re a very brave man, Curt. I can 99.9% guarantee beer…which will certainly make it all better. Tell them all – OK, the boys – to take off their shirts and wave ‘em when the camera comes ’round. ;-)

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I think it’s always good to lead by example. Don’t forget the chest paint.

  91. 91
    Mara Wanna Says:

    http://buzztap.com/-J4xO8a

    Pretty cool article.

  92. 92
    Anne Says:

    Odd…there are literally 7 cars in the Orange Lot.

  93. 93
    Anne Says:

    BP must be inside today…only the bullpen is playing catch on the field. That, or they’re taking a team nap to recover from last night. Ew, now I’m imagining spooning. You’re welcome, ABT.

  94. 94
    Anne Says:

    FYI – noon is not too early for beer (Curt – change it to 100 percent guarantee) …but it IS too early to SPILL your beer. :-(

  95. 95
    Curt Says:

    Or your jumbo coke in your lap.

  96. 96
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Mmmmmm…spooning. Go Braves! Huddy sounds awesome!

  97. 97
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Mmmmmm…spooning. Go Braves! Huddy sounds awesome! We should place bets on how many potty trips Curt has to make. I say 13.

  98. 98
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Hey, did y’all know trying to stop a comment so you can add to it is futile?

  99. 99
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Curt, Don just said he’s glad you and your crew are there. His favorite day at the park. Now don’t you feel better?

  100. 100
    Curt Says:

    I do. Our crew left at 2:40 because that was about all the kids (and the adults) could take. Only one bathroom break + one ice cream run + three demands that the kids stop kicking the guy in front of us. A fun and entertaining day at the park. And thankfully the woman who runs the group is a Braves fan so we had pretty good seats in the shade.

  101. 101
    Ham Says:

    Let’s see Wagner blow this.

    Wait . . .

  102. 102
    Anne Says:

    Curt – good for you to get out of the sun. We made it to the pitching change in the 7th…I think it was the 7th…heatstroke prevents me from remembering what happened two hours ago. Turns out we missed nothing.
    Great game… Go Braves Road Trip!!

  103. 103
    Nate Says:

    Oswalt to Cards? Carpenter, Wainwright, and Oswalt in a short series… that would suck.

  104. 104
    ham Says:

    Nate – that is an ominous proposition. Time to start cheering for the Reds.

    I think it has been a while since it has been said, but I LOVE WINNING BASEBALL. There is so much to like about this team.

  105. 105
    Nate Says:

    ham, agreed. it was awesome for the guys to come out and stick it to the padres after last night. where is all this money coming from in the ‘lou? they had to sign holliday last offseason, they need to resign el hombre after this year, and now they’re talking about adding oswalt???

  106. 106
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Guess who’s gonna be at Nationals Park next Tuesday night? The Rev is the bomb.

  107. 107
    Anne Says:

    “Mara” – as I’m sure you (and everybody else) can recall…I LOVE the Nationals Park. It’s just lovely. AND, much like where the Marlins play, you should have your pick of seats! ;-)

  108. 108
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Oh good. I hope the ushers are as nice as Alan and let us break all the rules. Don’t forget to drink plenty of liquids Anne with an e.

  109. 109
    Steve Says:

    Very, very nice to take care of business today. Mara – re your #75 – I was screaming at the TV. After all the time gone and all the scrutiny on his game, he’s going to STILL pull that no throwing the ball crap?!?!? Unbelievable.

  110. 110
    Bub Selig Says:

    I did another song. I feel bad already, get it while it’s… whatever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5dPBcE3PeM

  111. 111
    Ham Says:

    Bub – I love it.

  112. 112
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Hi-lar-ious Bub!
    Anne, what am I thinking…Strasburg is the scheduled pitcher so it will be packed.
    Steve, just saw Cyrus. Very clever.

  113. 113
    Nate Says:

    Bub, that was strong to quite strong. Mara, thanks for the SI Bobby link. It was a good read.

  114. 114
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Btw, time to bring back the Glaus ceiling…it worked last time. Rather it worked when you threatened to axe it. So bring it back quick and then axe it.
    Nate, my favorite part was how he met his second wife.

  115. 115
    Nate Says:

    Welcome to third place, Mets.

  116. 116
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    One more YE piece.

    Funniest thing I have heard so far was on ESPN (I think subbing for Mike & Mike or on Mike & Mike), Buster talk about how when Gonzo came into the locker room for the first time, the Brave’s players gave him a STANDING OVATION!!!

    Actions speak louder than words…

    OBTW – it is “Eat your cake and have it too”. You can’t eat it and still have it… You CAN have it and then eat it…

  117. 117
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    As for nicknames: How about McLouthy

  118. 118
    Nate Says:

    I just got home from work to realize we’re playing in FLA, so I get to watch. I hope the weather in Miami is better than it is here in TB. Mark, I saw that from Olney last week and thought it was pretty cool. Judging from post game quotes over the past week, Escobar was liked by none. His character traits are the reason he was only given a half season to slump while players like Frenchy are given much longer. I would love to see the good vibes in the clubhouse translate into more consistent play. We had two great games in the Padres series. I’m not going to forget that we split a series with a team that almost got swept by the Pirates this week. Go Braves!

  119. 119
    Nate Says:

    I’m sticking with McOut, and he is playing tonight. Maybe he gets some solid hits and attempts to throw runners out…

  120. 120
    Ham Says:

    UGGGGGGGGGG-la. He kills us.

  121. 121
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Lowedemort kills us too.

  122. 122
    Nate Says:

    I saw on FSMarlins that Cody Ross and Dan Uggla’s pregame routine includes smacking each other on the ass (not uncommon for ballplayers), which is then followed by kissing each other on the cheek… is this weird to anyone else? Oh great, a double McOut.

  123. 123
    Mara Wanna Says:

    This game is frustrating. Lowe seems to be picking himself up and brushing himself off.

  124. 124
    Nate Says:

    MVPrado!

  125. 125
    Curt Says:

    Nate, is it weird that we do the same thing before every show?

  126. 126
    Nate Says:

    Curt, thanks man. I needed a good laugh after a long week.

  127. 127
    Nate Says:

    I’m liking Gonzalez more and more every game.

  128. 128
    Steve Says:

    I really, really despise McLouth. Almost as much as my nine year old who, only after starting to watch the Braves this year, has an almost unhealthy hatred of him.

    Mara – glad you liked Cyrus.

  129. 129
    Nate Says:

    Geez, Chavez, Bobby must be feeling a blow out coming on

  130. 130
    Steve Says:

    Nooooooooooooooo! Not Chavez.

  131. 131
    Nate Says:

    This is not a good matchup for the Braves.

  132. 132
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Very afraid.

  133. 133
    Nate Says:

    And the trash stash comes through!

  134. 134
    Nate Says:

    It’s the Marlins pen. We should score many more than 3 on ‘em.

  135. 135
    Curt Says:

    Anyone else see that Shafer got demoted to AA? So much for that era.

  136. 136
    Nate Says:

    Hahaha, the Fish announcers just called that one.

  137. 137
    Steve Says:

    Yes!!!!! McCann. So good.

    Curt – no doubt. The Schafer era continues to disappoint.

  138. 138
    Nate Says:

    Curt, yes. All that hype for nothin’.

  139. 139
    Nate Says:

    McOut looks completely deflated on the bench. Can we get the missing member of The Venezuelan Fab Four back? Bobby loves Venezuela.

  140. 140
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Our Allstar can beat up their Allstar.

  141. 141
    Nate Says:

    Moylan….

  142. 142
    Nate Says:

    “IF”

  143. 143
    Curt Says:

    Big IF. Maybe we can get Wagner to talk Moylan into retiring.

  144. 144
    Nate Says:

    Have these umpires been to Florida before?

  145. 145
    Anne Says:

    I can’t believe I’m still watching post-rain delay.

  146. 146
    Anne Says:

    Awwwwwww. Walkin’ in the rain. Chipper’s so romantic…

  147. 147
    Anne Says:

    Heap Heap Heap!!

  148. 148
    Nate Says:

    Mac, so huge!

  149. 149
    Anne Says:

    Glaus ceiling…Glaus ceiling…Glaus ceiling. That oughta do it.

  150. 150
    Anne Says:

    Ouch!! That’s no way to win a ballgame. Poor Matty D!

  151. 151
    Nate Says:

    Marlins. Bullpen.

  152. 152
    Mara Wanna Says:

    It’s gonna be a looping weekend. But hopefully very productive. Curt, I love #144.

  153. 153
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I mean the comment before #144.

  154. 154
    Nate Says:

    Ouch. Unbelievable.

  155. 155
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Bummer. What us up with The Sandman?

  156. 156
    Steve Says:

    THAT was painful. Worried about Wags, for sure. Not throwing his fastball. Ugh.

    BUB – just listened to the song. Really great stuff.

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    Curt Says:

    Yes. We need to get that figured out very soon.

  158. 158
    Curt Says:

    http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/teams-seek-braves-pitching-577566.html

  159. 159
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Laughing at myself…looping=long, us=is. Haven’t had time to catch up with twitterville. Any news on Wagner? Just a couple of bad pitches? Have I mentioned I don’t like losing?

  160. 160
    Nate Says:

    Mara, Wags said he’s all good in his postgammers. I look for a big win today. Chip, Mac, and Wags seemed more than ticked with the way that one ended last night.
    Curt, thanks for the link. Our pitching depth is just money in the bank.
    Steve, he did seem to be throwing his slider a lot more than usual last night.
    Sure enough, the Marlins 9th inning rally was started with a walk to Braves-killer Wes Helms. I don’t know what the deal with mediocre former players, except Frenchy, coming back to burn us. Remember KJ’s 9 run 8 rbi (something like that) series in Arizona earlier this year?

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Speaking of KJ…hit for the cycle last night. Mac needs a hug.

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    Steve Says:

    Nate, re: Wes Helms. Curt is always remarking that the Braves should sign him and simply bury him on the bench so that we no longer have to face him. It’s uncanny how he’s in the middle of so much Marlins-inflicted pain.

  163. 163
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Walking through downtown Philly today…might have to bust some chops.

  164. 164
    Nate Says:

    Are we going to have a player get 100 RBIs this season?

  165. 165
    Curt Says:

    Not with the way Glaus has fallen off a cliff.

  166. 166
    Anne Says:

    Watching Fox – Dodgers v Mets. Seeing Francoeur and Garret Anderson on other teams makes me happy.

  167. 167
    Nate Says:

    Phils crushing Rockies

  168. 168
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Oh snap. Prado goes deeeeep!

  169. 169
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I’m done with Mr. McSucks and his aversion to throwing out runner.

  170. 170
    Nate Says:

    Mara, couldn’t agree more. Absolutely ridiculous.

  171. 171
    Nate Says:

    Infuriating. The guy just got hit in the knee and got a horrible jump. I don’t know if he’ll have a much better shot than that at an outfield assist.

  172. 172
    Nate Says:

    Has anyone in all of baseball been as unsuccessful as McOut with RISP? I miss Greg White…

  173. 173
    Curt Says:

    We really need some guys to get some power swings back. Glaus and Hinske need to get their act together. Especially with McLouth back in the lineup. It’s like we are back to a 7 man lineup.

  174. 174
    Nate Says:

    Gabby Sanchez is another Braves-killer.

  175. 175
    Nate Says:

    Ahhh, I hate freakin’ Uggla. We are the only team he hits consistently.

  176. 176
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Can we acquire Dan Uggla just so we don’t have to play against him?

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    Nate Says:

    Curt, #173, absolutely. I’d throw Chip in that discussion, too. Walks and singles from the 3-hole is not enough. Mac is heating up, but our 3,5, and 6 are just not doing much of anything right now, unless a lefty is pitching and Diaz plays.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Do you think this series will light a fire under Wren?

  179. 179
    Nate Says:

    Got ‘Stash?

  180. 180
    Curt Says:

    I think McLouth has got to be pulled from this lineup. It’s a disservice to guys who produced while he was out. I understand you shouldn’t lose your job due to an injury. You should, however, lose your job due to to the fact that you suck.

    To not be riding Diaz right now is a joke.

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    Nate Says:

    Mara, I hope so. The Braves have frequently been controlled by mediocre pitching.

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    Nate Says:

    Curt, on the Diaz thing, the Marlins’ announcers have been saying that for the last two games. They are loving the fact that Cox is, for some reason, refusing to play a guy who is hitting .381 with 8 hr and 52 RBI against the Fish.

  183. 183
    Nate Says:

    BMac, taking one for the team!

  184. 184
    Curt Says:

    Just don’t hit into a DP

  185. 185
    Curt Says:

    You either Hinske

  186. 186
    Nate Says:

    Did we watch this game last night?

  187. 187
    Nate Says:

    BTW, I will be taking my talents to South Beach to watch Los Braves manana. No tickets yet, but we’re fairly confident some will be available.

  188. 188
    Curt Says:

    I did. I also just watched that. Huge.

  189. 189
    Nate Says:

    Effin McOut.

  190. 190
    Nate Says:

    BROOKS CONRAD!

  191. 191
    Curt Says:

    Holy God that was awesome.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Love me some Brooksy! I also may or may not be in love with the Marlin’s bullpen. I also love how Prado husseled to 3rd even though the team was leading by 4. McSucks needs to go to AAA.

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    Nate Says:

    Mara, you should love the Fish pen. Their ERA against the Braves was over 8 before the Conrad Slam. The error by Cantu definitely hid the questionable call to have Gonzo sacrifice in front of McTerrible.

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    Curt Says:

    Cody Ross, impressing his future employer

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    I wonder if Uggla can play in the outfield…

    How about Uggla at 2nd and Prado in the outfield? I would feel a bit hesitant to change anything for Prado, as well as he is hitting for us…

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    Nate Says:

    Sweet.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Makes me smile that Uggla was the last out.

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    Nate Says:

    Their pen is beyond terrible.

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    Curt Says:

    It really is a joke. I would be so pissed if I was a Marlins fan.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Can’t move Prado. Especially the jive he and Gonzo got going.

  201. 201
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I do like the thought of Cody Ross. Plus it’d be so convenient…just switch dugouts. Done!

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    Nate Says:

    Man, if I was the Padres I would definitely go after Uggla. They need middle infielders and hitting badly. I don’t know if he could play outfield for the Braves. I like MVPrado at 2nd, and why mess with such a good thing?

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    Nate Says:

    J-Hey has been on base 9 out of 10 times in the series.

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    Kate Says:

    Chris Volstad will be pitching on three days rest tomorrow.

  205. 205
    Curt Says:

    Does anyone know if Luke Scott can actually play in the field?

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Anyone got Tonya Harding’s phone number? Maybe she could set up a hit on McLouthy… -grin-

    Probably the only one he would get…

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ha! That made me laugh M in M. If he is in the line up today I will scream.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Get ready Mara. There is no one else to play center full time on the team.

    The instant they sent Gregor down, it was McLouthy’s show. They will ride him for his defense, hoping he will “click in” on offense at some point and he will go into a hot streak with his hitting…

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Today’s lineup: Prado – 4 Heyward – 9 Hinkse – 7 McCann – 2 Glaus – 3 Gonzalez – 6 Conrad – 5 Cabrera – 8 Jurrjens – 1

    A girl can dream. I’d rather send McSucks down and get Whitey back.

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    Nate Says:

    In Miami. Receiving a lot of wonderful looks while walking around in my UT jersey. Had to, can’t sweat through the Braves shirt before 11.

  211. 211
    Nate Says:

    Lots of empty seats here at the home of fish.

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    Anonymous Says:

    Nate…does it look like a rain delay? Sure sounds like it.

  213. 213
    Nate Says:

    No, it’s getting lighter. It is supposed to do this all day, though. I wish JJ had Volstad’s K-zone. This ump is having a bad day. I hate Wes Helms.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    It’s me…crap.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Come on JJ…set up house and then settle in. Got it? Good.

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    Nate Says:

    Finally, JJ was pitching in a freakin’ mud pit out there.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I bet Bobby gets tossed if the seriously questionable calls continue.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Why didn’t JJ clean his cleats before Wes Helms hit?

  219. 219
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I’m ready for the Fish bullpen.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Do something Nate…cause a ruckus. Streak on the field and cause confusion to shake things up! ABT has a fund to bail it’s members out for just such an occasion.

  221. 221
    Nate Says:

    Hah, if I did that my lady friend might make me walk back to Tampa.

  222. 222
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Not if we win! I’m sure she would be willing to act like she doesn’t know you from Adam’s house cat in return for a win.

  223. 223
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ok…instead of streaking will you calmly walk over to the 3 fans screaming “let’s go Marlins”and shin kick them one by one?

  224. 224
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Amazing the difference when JJ’s not pitching in a quagmire.

  225. 225
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Are all you Atlantans going to see Glavine’s number retired?

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    Nate Says:

    I am amazed Bobby is still around for this one.

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    Steve Says:

    #206 – Love it.

    As the lineups were announced this afternoon I told my son about the curse of Wes Helms. And he freaking does it again. Ugh.

    Mara – not sure about the Glavine game. Maybe. Taking my wife to NYC that week for her 40th (really just cuz Curt did the same last month) and will be getting back that day. But I’m going to try.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ooo…NYC with no kids. You are excused. I really wanted JJ to tie it there. This game won’t get called will it? A delay maybe but surely they won’t call.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    JJ has just said to himself “If the idiot umpire isn’t going to call the bottom of the strikezone, I will just blow by everybody belt high”…

  230. 230
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nate…yell really loud “Meadow rocks”! I wanna see if I can hear you.

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    Nate Says:

    Did you hear it? We’re behind the Braves’ pen, so I don’t know where we are in relation to field mics. Watching Glaus run makes my knees hurt.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Oh how I love thee JJ…let me count the ways. Bullpen time!

  233. 233
    Steve Says:

    Yes, yes and yes, Mara. Bring on the bullpen.

    Nate – reading about you watching Glaus run makes my knees hurt.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nate, you may not believe me but I think I did! It made me laugh. Amazing with all those people.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    My knees always hurt. Wes Helms changed his jersey. Pansy.

  236. 236
    Mara Wanna Says:

    J Hey is back!

  237. 237
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I don’t get pinch running for Hinske. Unless he is literally slower than a sea turtle don’t replace him with Mclouth.

  238. 238
    Nate Says:

    The Marlins’ fans around me are losing their minds right now.

  239. 239
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Especially when all the pitcher can throw is balls. Nate, you mean the Marlins actually have fans?

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    Nate Says:

    Ouch

  241. 241
    Mara Wanna Says:

    So glad McLouth is in the game instead of Hinske. When MAY we get Troy that hits back.

  242. 242
    Nate Says:

    It’s kind of annoying that are offensive strategy is to wait for their pen and then walk and single them to death. I hope it works….

  243. 243
    Steve Says:

    What an awful at-bat by Troy there. Horrible not to capitalize there. Big momentum shift for the Marlins.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Time to drive the stake in their hearts. Alright Grampy…

  245. 245
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Wahoooooo!

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    Nate Says:

    Wearing a faded Chipper jersey T while watching him tie the game: priceless.

  247. 247
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Way to not waste time. Just walk up, hit a double.

  248. 248
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Martin has disappointed me. Sad.

  249. 249
    Steve Says:

    Mara! Has Hammy gotten to you?

  250. 250
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Haha…no, I still love him (When I say him I mean Prado) but seriously…get a hit dude! Isn’t he 0 fer today?

  251. 251
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Dan Uggla hits into a dp…calling it.

  252. 252
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Or strikes out swinging. One or the other.

  253. 253
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Allright Bobby, now’s a good yime to ask Cody Ross if he wants to switch dugouts. Come on boys!

  254. 254
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Coulda used a hit there.

  255. 255
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Wish I had a better feeling about the bottom of the 9th.

  256. 256
    Curt Says:

    Agreed. At least we got thru Babe Helms

  257. 257
    Mara Wanna Says:

    New show tonight boys? Nicely done Meadow.

  258. 258
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    That was like a wide receiver running a route and the ball was on the way before he turned around…

  259. 259
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I knew Saito could do it. Come on Curt…have a little faith.

  260. 260
    Nate Says:

    I just explained the Wes Helms vs Braves phenomenon to the elderly gentleman sitting next to us. He says marlins’ fans feel the same way about MCann, which I thought unfair since McCann is 5000x the player Helms is.

  261. 261
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Really? Can’t get a hit off Sosa and his 7 + ERA?

  262. 262
    Nate Says:

    where is our offense?

  263. 263
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Sosa’s problem has always been when he tried to “put a little extra” on a pitch. He tended to rotate his body a little harder, which caused his hand to drift outside his arm (he needs his hand to come right over his elbow), which turned his fastball into a “hanging” slider-ish pitch… And it would get HIT!

  264. 264
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Anybody hear anything on EOF?

  265. 265
    Mara Wanna Says:

    There’s that DP! M in M, where was that pitch in the 10th? Or did he throw it? You’ll learn very quickly I know very little about…well mostly everything.

  266. 266
    Nate Says:

    just don’t hit into a dp mcout.

  267. 267
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Only positive thing is a fly ball could be good…

  268. 268
    Nate Says:

    get him off the team.

  269. 269
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Dammit to hell. I was honestly hoping Mclouth would just stand there and watch.

  270. 270
    Nate Says:

    Unbelievable.

  271. 271
    Nate Says:

    how does mcout come off the bench before omar?

  272. 272
    Nate Says:

    mcout + chavez= disaster

  273. 273
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nate, for real. They have to send him down right? How can they not?

  274. 274
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I’m going for a run. I need Black Eyed Peas blaring in my ears. Not the series I thought we’d lose.

  275. 275
    Nate Says:

    Back at the car. Super bummed. Really, we should of won that game way before the 8th when Chipper tied it. Volstad was pitching on minimal rest, and we only got 2 on him. I don’t know if you can attribute that to a Sunday lineup since a lot of regulars played today. I like Conrad. The slams have been great, but how does Omar not get a start. He is much better against righties, but Cox seems to be only giving him starts against lefties. Anyway, we’ve been pretty unsuccessful in extra inning games lately, so I’m not surprised we lost in extras (the other team eventually gets Chavez every time). This is a great team we’ve got, but I think we’re gonna need more offense.

  276. 276
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    McLouthy is Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy, Louthy…

    To quote Anne Robinson: “You are the weakest link. Goodbye!”

  277. 277
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Haha! I thought the same quote. My only comfort is hopefully we’ll see Wren make a move. Nate…don’t comment and drive.

  278. 278
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Bobby saying the DP ball Nate hit was a bullet. Guess what…I don’t give a crap. I wish he had stood there and watched the balls cross the plate.

  279. 279
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Frenchy might go to the Royals…bless his heart.

  280. 280
    Steve Says:

    Mara – yes on new show tonight. On EOF, he’s eligible to come off the DL today, but is still way too sick to join the team. Apparently he’s very weak, been throwing up, etc.

  281. 281
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Wow…talk about the inside scoop. That sounds terrible.

  282. 282
    Nate Says:

    Somebody should use “Screaming Mimi” as a name on the blog.

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