Love the title. Listening to the show while running errands with my very special sister makes me hesitant to comment. I’m not good at lestening to two conversations at one time. I do remember Curt saying something about not being as pessimistic as Hammy so…heh, that tells you how well I was listening. I clearly remember Hammy lamenting the loss of Prado and how it might ruin our run (you wil NEVER live it down). So the road trip was bad, very bad. But I DO find minimal comfort in the GNats almost sweeping the Phillies. Obviously they are on a roll. I was very disappointed in Ankiel but it’s one game. Troy is a power hitter and aren’t they natorious for being streaky? Maybe the professor can see how streaky his fab 2008 run was. Heyward’s clutch double was encouraging. All of that to say, Mrs. Mary Sunshine feels hesitant yet hopeful. Make sense?
Good show guys. Very humorous in a time of despair.
2 Things on tonight’s lineup: Bravo for the shuffle, Bobby, but why is Ankiel playing against a lefty? Why, if he is playing, is he hitting in front of Ross? Just a couple thoughts…
Is this the dawn of seeing Rick Ankiel play more than he should?
Chick ? Alert. Does Martin Prado have to stay on the DL for a certain number of days? Like 15? Or can we send Diory on his merry way as soon as he’s ready? I know it’s a fracture and will probably take a long time but 15 days doesn’t so much fit with my schedule.
This seems to indicate that the 15th is the first day he will be eligible.
Players are placed on either the 15-day or the 60-day disabled list, usually depending on the severity and/or recovery time of the injury. A player may be shifted from the 15-day to the 60-day DL at any time, but not vice-versa. The player may not rejoin the team until 15 or 60 days has elapsed; however, a player’s time on the DL may exceed the specified number of days, and further, if a player is transferred to the 60-day DL after August 1, he may not return to the active roster that season. The 15-day DL does not count the player on the active roster (comprising the 25-man roster until September 1), whereas the 60-day DL does not require the player to be counted on either the team’s active roster or its 40-man roster; however, a teams 40-man roster must be full in order for the option of a placement on the 60-day disabled list to be available. By placing a player on the disabled list, a spot on the active roster is made available. Another player from the minor leagues, free agent pool, a traded player, or a recovered player coming off the disabled list may be used to fill this spot. This allows a team to avoid being penalized because it avoids the disadvantage of playing with a reduced roster. Retroactive placement may be made at most 10 days after the time of injury. When a player is listed as day-to-day before being placed on the disabled list, it therefore may pinpoint the date of the injury.
Steve, “Mara” and Ballpark Frank may be the only people who care about this, but: Alan, my favorite usher of all time, has been out sick since the last homestand. I’m getting conflicting reports depending upon who I talk to, but consensus is it’s NOT good and he MIGHT be back for the next homestand (not this one). My friend Sarah and I are thinking of becoming 10-year-olds and making big signs to hold up for the TV, if he’s watching at home. All of this to say: keep Section 111 Alan in your thoughts. The Ted ain’t the same without him!
Anne, I hope he gets well soon! I’ll be sad if I miss him on the 14th. I say a definite unashamed YES to big obnoxious “Howdy Alan” signs. And, Hi to Ballpark Frank whom I have not forgiven for his lack of message board attendance.
Yeah, Mara, and then some. I’m ALL screwed up. Don’t know what I’ll do if I don’t get it turned around before school. “25 divided by the square root of… heyward … is… feliz navidad…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…”
I concur. Anything the Braves do positive he down plays as well. Yesterday he totally forgot about Atlanta when he made his top ten power rankings. He altered it when he realized but I get tired of it. I understand he’s a fan. I even expect him to be partial but…come on.
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THE DAMN METS. We have GOT to come back and win this game. This could be disastrous with those Giants pitchers coming to town.
Also, I just hate the Mets. Can’t believe I ever thought I didn’t.
That was just an awful game. Just awful. If Bobby pulls his “tough loss” manure, I am going to fly to Atlanta and punch Curt. So many horrible moments . . . Hinske swinging at all of those pitches with the bases loaded and Dickey just walked the last two batters . . . Gonzalez trying to steal (he has ONE stolen base this season) . . . Wagner’s stupid pitch to Frenchy.
Ignominious. Maybe the worst loss of the season. So angry.
And why the hell do you pinch hit Glaus? He’s a DP waiting to happen. 0-8 RISP. Just terrible. Worst of the season. We might lose this series. Pelfrey has begged us to hammer him this year and we refuse to do it. 4-6 against the hapless Mets.
Wait…Bobby pinch hit Glaus? Good night to have a coffee date. Sucky loss. Bubdylan, you’re new found hatred of the Mets is cracking me up but I’m VERY glad to see it. Keep walking toward the light. Did Wagner struggle or just throw one very bad god awful pitch?
Tell me this line up would not destroy right handed pitching:
And Troy Glaus is full of sh*t. He’s lying through his teeth saying his knees and feet are the same as they’ve been all year and that it’s just his timing. His limp is 5 times worse than it was. This crap about straight lying and saying you’re not injured when you are … what IS THAT? I swear I’ll never complain about Chipper benching himself with injuries again. I mean, Troy could not be any more obviously in terrible pain. The limbless knight with “only a flesh wound” comes to mind.
Bub, you might get your wish soon. Bowman and DOB were tweeting a good bit last night about the possibility of Freeman getting called up sooner, rather than later. maybe Troy finds himself on the DL and they give it a 15 day test run.
So, I decided on significant internet silence while in NYC these last few days celebrating my wife’s. But I did check the score when we got out of Promises, Promises last night. BUT, I had no idea of the details until this morning in the cab to the airport. It really added insult to injury hearing it from a New Yorker. I think I’m most upset about pinch hitting Glaus. C’mon, Bobby. You had to put him in because he’s been so clutch?!?! Can’t wait to hear the show.
I can barely stand to look at twitter so I missed on the FF talk. I hope it happens. I did see McLouth hit another homer. I’m afraid this team has all the pieces and is going to get really close to going to the post season.
Not happy with the organization. From Kawakami’s interview with DOB:
Q. Has Bobby Cox or any Braves official talked to you in recent weeks about your role, their plans for you or when they might try to get you in games?
A. The only thing I heard was after I made my last start against Detroit. Maybe two days later I was told that I’m stepping down from the rotation and just being used as a reliever, maybe in long relief, or anytime a starter goes down, I’m going to be stepping in to fill that role.
Q. So they haven’t talked to you since then about your role?
That’s b.s., and it’s a running theme. You guys’ interview with Javy and also the Glavine situation paints a very inept picture of our front office’s relationship with players. How can you not communicate with your athletes and keep them in the loop? I don’t understand it at all. I guess I was pretty wrong about Glavine, and might even have to give Smoltz more benefit (though certainly it would only go to a 50/50 deal with him) now that Kawakami, who shows nothing but class and hard work in spite of everything, has come out (only when asked) and admitted this is how it goes with the Braves.
Major kudos to DOB for asking that question and for hammering it home. Something needs to be written about this. Mark Bradley, maybe? He likes to get upset…
I take it John Schurholtz(sp?), after the Glavine apology, recognizes Wren’s shortcoming on this front. Maybe a he should make Frank take a class on… class.
I rolled my eyes at Ripken’s and Smoltz’ fallouts with Frank. With Glavine I raised an eyebrow. But when it’s KK, having to be prodded to say it, I’m just convinced. Wren’s not natural with people. Good skills for building a young core on limited funds, but not good with folk, as my grandmother would say.
Bub, right on about KK. I read DOBs article and it’s pretty disgraceful. I have huge respect for him after I read it and the selflessness he expressed. It’s a shame what they have done to him. And I’ll bet the used him to recruit Saito.
Please tell me someone else heard Smoltz just now commenting on A-Rod’s 600th. Something to do with, “when you reach a round number” but I began laughing too hard to hear the word “number” at the end. It must be past my bedtime.
Unfortunately I think the Mets lost this game 10X more than we won it. The laughable decision to leave Pelf in to face McCann a 3rd time with the lefty already warmed up, the Mets defense falling to pieces.
Still, nice to win a series.
Promote Minor and Freeman! Get it done!
Raise your hand if you’d take a 2-2 series against the Giants right now.
Good grief, I can only imagine being in KK’s shoes, reading this comment from Bobby:
**Can Kawakami replace Medlen next start if needed?
“I don’t know right now. He hasn’t pitched in so long.”
First, that’s obviously media-speak for “oh, HELL no, not that guy…” but moreover, they pull the guy out of the rotation, never use him in the pen, don’t talk to him about it at all, and then when asked if he can pitch, say “gee I dunno, he hasn’t pitched in so long…”
A lot of my enjoyment of the Braves comes from the idea of rooting for a class organization building on a medium budget, etc, that whole story. Means as much to me as winning (I know, I’m alone…), so this is equal to a nine game losing streak for me.
Curt, Steve, All, question for you: do you think Derek Lowe will be the last big contract for this club under Liberty? Are they in full fledged scale-back mode?
I can’t think of anything more frustrating than to find that to be the case. To graduate this incredible group of youngsters and not add the pieces to them that would make them truly powerful. You don’t get Heyward/Hanson/Freeman/Jurrjens/Venters/Prado/Minor/Teheran/McCann landing in your back yard for dirt cheap more than once every twenty years, hell this crop may be unprecedented outside of Tampa. If they don’t do something with this, what a shame that would be.
Anne, me too. Lincecum and JJ faced each other in a game lsat year that was one of the best performances I’ve ever seen JJ have. Braves won like 4-2 in that one. It was around this time last year. I feel sorry for KK, but I honestly would rather see someone else pitch in a playoff race. I’m sorry this is not what was promised to him, but that’s life.
It sucks and the ball is bouncing their way. The Braves need to right their own ship and start taking advantage of the opportunities they are given in each game. This RISP thing is agonizing. And you better get it figured out quick because the Phillies are at home for the next two weeks. They don’t figure to lose a bunch of ground there.
The Braves were 0-for-6 with runners in scoring position Thursday and 1-for-23 in their past three games. They have scored 11 runs the past two nights (both wins) despite just one hit with a runner in scoring position, and they are are 7-for-63 in those situations in their past six games.
The RISP thing is agonizing. It’s reminiscent of the 1 run loss thing from a couple of years (?) ago. Does other ridiculous stuff like this happen to other teams? But, we’ve won 3 of 4, beat the Giants best pitcher, have started to hit some homeruns, have sat Glaus. All in all (aside from losing Medlen, of course) it’s been a decent week.
Going to the Glavine retirement game tonight with my son. Anyone else going to be there? Anne?
I’m sure Steve will have glorious things to say in the show, but the Glavine ceremony was lovely. Left just after Grandpa hit another HR and sad to see we’re in extra innings…tomorrow. Good morning, everybody!
this is a team right now that does not make the playoffs. you just can’t continue to blow games like this, refuse to get a hit, waste starting pitching, on and on. time and time again. it’s every freaking night. and i have absolutely no faith in wagner when he comes in. zero. i cant stand watching them. i wont even be able to sleep tonight i am so pissed.
To get beat and have the Phillies win a helll of a game would be sad. To lose cause Wags gives up a save more wounding but come on…how many games can you expect to win with 1 or 2 runs? To lose because of lack if focus? I need a break. I literally cannot watch. Hope that doesn’t make me a bad fan but I just need a couple days to clear my head. Kate, Anne, don’t let the podcast go to pot without me.
There is a reason the Cards did not resign Rick Ankiel (As was mentioned on this week’s show). Bobby really needs to stop playing him against lefties. His game against Santana was a fluke. Last night is what Rick does against lefties. The Blanco-Chavez trade actually made the Braves worse because Rick Ankiel will now start every game.
Our only hit from first base this week was the Hinske home run. These things are killing a first place team. I still can’t believe he threw Moylan out for a second inning. He’s never been a good multiple innings pitcher. He already has too many innings this year as is. Why send him out for another last night? Was it past Bobby’s bed time? Obviously I am not over last night’s game. I just got so ranty on the Braves and didn’t even have to mention not hitting with RISP.
DOB, first with the so-the-Braves-haven’t-said-jack-to-you? question to KK, and now the Stat of the Day being called “Glaus’ Slump and Incentive Clauses” seems to have taken a slight turn to a riskier line with the team. I like it. The soft Atl media, which I would never want to be as ridiculous as NY, has nevertheless enabled a lot of the b.s. that goes on in the organization.
Also, they need to put Heyward on a 4-on, 3-off schudule and rest the thumb no matter what it does to the standings. The thumb is obviously not resting enough and now we are flirting with damaging our future. Schafer just went to the DL again with the same hand injury from 2 years ago. It’s beyond stupid to risk it with Heyward. If we can keep Glaus in the game to pay his rickety ass his incentives, we can play an outfield of Melky/Ankiel/Diaz to protect our Pujols. Team is showing all kinds of ineptitude right now.
How can anybody buy the disappearance of power in Heyward that was with him his entire minor league career and during his first month in the bigs? He’s hitting ground balls. He’s hurt.
Bub, I want to respond to your question about the team and big contracts, I just haven’t had the time. I will soon. As you imagine, I have some strong thoughts on that subject.
They are tough to watch. And tougher with Glaus continuing to play. I know Huff is a lefty, but I really wanted him to be our one year stopgap. Of course he is making $5 mill, and also hitting .300 with 20 homers.
This is nothing short of a massive choke job. The timely hitting, blown saves, errors. It’s amateur hour and they seem content watching it happen. Maybe Wagner should be cooled off for a while. Let Venters or someone else close. They have to shake things up. I’m betting we are in 2nd come Monday when we lose 3 of 4 to the Giants.
Curt, this coming offseason is their last chance to prove to me they’ll ever spend again under this regime. They’ve clearly cut payroll and brushed it under the rug. The Wagner contract was the only sign of life.
I think there’s a 50/50 chance they’ll make a big splash this winter, even with Chipper still on the team. They really need to spend some money soon. The legend of the Big Bat dates back to 2008 now. Need a player.
Bub, couldn’t watch tonight for multiple reasons but glad we won and appreciated your commentary on the board. Super glad the Phillies lost even if it was at the hand of a villian. After last night I wasn’t on speaking terms with the Braves. So today while eating lunch at Jestine’s in Charleston SC I see a letter from the 94 Braves telling Jestine happy birthday and thanking her for her support. I COULDN’T GET AWAY FOR ONE SORRY DAY? Anyway, I thought that was funny. So I’ll probably be busy tomorrow as well and honestly, I need the break. Keep up the chatter…it makes me feel less like I missed it.
It was truly a great game. The best they’ve played in the second half. Offense got what they could off of Cain. Huddy was unreal. Alex Gonzalez with what probably will be the #1 web gem to get Huddy out of one of his only two jams. Huddy got fired up and pointed happy fingers at his infield for turning the awesome DP.
At the end of the 8th, Mac gave Tim a big high five in front of a roaring sell out – yup, sell out – Turner Field crowd.
And Wagner – my goodness. 98 MPH on the radar, struck out all three batters on 11 pitches!!!
No errors and smart plays all around. The Croakin’ Trojan did hit into two DP’s, but also drove in 2 of the 3 runs with a double he stretched into a single. (little joke there, just a regular single). Braves played very energetic and alert baseball with their ace on the mound and their ass on the line.
I was impressed. This may settle into a division race.
Home from the game…my friends pulled a fast one and gave me an early birthday present – game from a box at The Ted! REALLY great – oh, and great we won and the Phillies lost. Good LORD Wagner was on fire. GO Braves!!!
I also missed the game. Maybe it was Freudian. Who knows. Bub, i was perharps being a little hyperbolic before, but like you, i was over the way they were playing. Still am if it continues tomorrow. Great win tonight, from what i have read. But win and show up behind someone other than Hudson. But big win with Santana shutting down the Phils. Hope this is the game that gets us kicked in the right direction.
Julio Teheran had a great night to add to Freeman’s and the Big Club. 6.0 innings, 7 k’s, a walk, 3 hits, no runs… this after his 5.2 inning (pitch count) no-hitter last time out. That’s 2 of his first 3 starts after his promotion = no runs, low walks, low hits, high K’s.
Interesting strategy resting Heyward, Chipper, and McCann with Prado on the DL. Not many managers would elect to go into a game with no one from their everyday 1-4 in the lineup. Let’s see how this one plays out.
Hello from Turner Field – thanks for the birthday wishes, but that was the surprise – my 40th isn’t until October. I have sneaky friends.
Oh, and Usher Alan update: he’s on the mend and hopefully back late month.
On the contrary, I think the last two games are very encouraging. To me, at least. We clearly have issues playing on the road, but the Astros are not very good. Have to believe that its a very winnable series. I’ve been all over the place with this team this week, but I actually feel pretty good right now. That will probably change in 4 days.