August 08, 2010

Show #120: The Braves Post A Surprising 5 – 2 Week

The Glavine ceremony.  Medlen, KK, Minor.  The hole at 1st base.  Wagner and the closer role.


 

 

429 Responses to “Show #120: The Braves Post A Surprising 5 – 2 Week”

  1. 1
    Nate Says:

    The luck of the florist… too funny.

  2. 2
    Bub Says:

    Really? KK is being pouty? That’s ludicrous with no more facts on the table than what you have. I guess that’s probably the most slanderous comments made on this show since I’ve been listening (admittedly, it’s still not that bad as slander goes…).

    I’ve been calling for KK to be ousted from the rotation almost the whole year, but the guy has exhibited zero “victimy” conduct. He was asked the question, and didn’t even go into any detail, but had to be asked the same question twice before it was even clear. Talk about projecting.

    This is your evidence:

    1. He was great in Japan.
    2. All people who were once great must become petulant if they lose their greatness.

    Did I miss any?

    Agreed that KK is the back-up plan for Minor, and failing that, could be showcased in the minors for a waiver trade.

    Steve, I would agree that a Freeman call-up is inevitable if he was right handed. I think that might put it over the line for Bobby. But being a lefty and already having the lefty Hinske available + preserving the clock on Freeman + extra seasoning for Freeman might keep him down in Gwinnett unless Glaus literally sends us down to 3 games back with his poor play.

    Wagner = Rocker & Wholers?? Come ON, a few blown saves. I agree he isn’t 100% great, but look around the league at K-Rod, Broxton, Capps, Wilson – they’ve ALL had stretches like this. I do agree Bobby should take some chances on a few Saito and Farnsworth saves. Freeman would help save Wags’ arms by putting us in fewer save situations, but I digress…

    Hot tomatoes and the luck of the florist? You guys know some mushrooms don’t go in the spaghetti, yes?

    I’ll go with the 4-2 crowd. Nervous and excited about Minor.

    Good show, as always. Even if Ham burnt my cracker. (No idea what it means, but file it with lucky flowers and hot tomatoes…)

  3. 3
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Won’t be able to listen to the show until tomorrow but from the looks of it I’m gonna have to break out my decoder ring.

  4. 4
    Nate Says:

    Freeman went 2-5 yesterday, with 2 RBI. Please, Wren. Please. I’m going with 5-1 this week. Extremely optimistic. I don’t know why, especially given the Braves’ knack for giving away games lately.

  5. 5
    Anne Says:

    A little something for KK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c98qdFQF7sw

  6. 6
    Steve Says:

    Love it, Anne.

  7. 7
    Nate Says:

    Steve, I love the Prado at 1st, Infante at 2nd idea. That’s the move I thought the organization would make last offseason. Both players have more than played their way into a starting role. Then, when Freeman’s ready, shift Prado to third if Chipper’s done or to 2nd (Infante to LF) if Chipper’s still wants to play in 2011. For right now, Prado at first could be a really nice fix if they don’t want Freeman in the bigs yet. I would also bat those two guys first and second everyday and drop Heyward to the 5th spot. Heyward could knock in a lot of runs with Prado-Infante-Chipper-Mac in front of him. Mac would also see better pitches with Heyward behind him.

  8. 8
    Ham Says:

    Just to be clear – (since I feel that my points weren’t adequately summed up in Bub’s rebuttal) – the question was do I think that KK has been treated unfairly. And, quite simply, my response was no. So I’ll put this out there – what would you have them do? And obviously KK understands what his role was/is in the bullpen (whether he liked it or not), so what else are the Braves supposed to say to him? “Nothing’s changed?”

    I just think that it was a very strong reaction from everyone over an interview that wasn’t so incendiary.

    Bring it on, and bring your crackers.

  9. 9
    Curt Says:

    In honor of tonight’s starter:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRGL4s9RLM&a=GxdCwVVULXfFx4PupLYMWqv-tGL1xBhC

  10. 10
    Bub Says:

    I’m bringing my crackers and my pops to the Dodgers game on Monday, the 16th if anyone’s going to that one.

    Ham, it was VERY incendiary. KK-hater. 8)

    There was more flippancy in my intentions than actually came across in my post. And I expect all to take that at face value because I NEVER over-react to anybody’s comments, EVER. (Nunca jamas…)

  11. 11
    Anne Says:

    Bub – I’ll be at the 16th game…stop by Section 211 and say hi. I’ll probably be rockin’ my red Diaz shirt. That’s right, you heard me.

  12. 12
    Bub Says:

    “what would you have them do?”

    Just talk to him more often. That’s it. That’s the whole issue, but it’s important. When you hear players brag on organizations, that’s what they say: I always knew where I stood.

  13. 13
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I will be there on Saturday and will leave very good vibes.

  14. 14
    Bub Says:

    Frenchy asking for a trade again. I shall now proceed to smile all day.

  15. 15
    ham Says:

    I love you, Bub (just like Prado).

  16. 16
    Kate Says:

    Braves lineup 1. Infante 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Chipper 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Hinske LF, 6. Glaus 1B, 7. Ankiel CF, 8. Gonzalez SS, 9. Minor P

  17. 17
    KK Says:

    Kill Bill was my favorite.

  18. 18
    Bub Says:

    Jackie Brown = the best QT film. Sorry for all you who just don’t understand…

    Love you, too, ham (just like Smoltz)

  19. 19
    Bub Says:

    2 batters in the line-up tonight hitting over .262, ouch.

    At least they hit homers. :(

  20. 20
    Bub Says:

    Speaking of pulpy movies, anyone here seen “The Limey”? A small Steven Schroderberg(sp) film that I highly recommend starring the underrated Terrence Stamp.

    Here’s a trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJojTdaCWu8&feature=related

  21. 21
    Bub Says:

    I wish Jim Powell wouldn’t call “over the head of ______” when he only means that the fielder is running backwards to catch the ball.

  22. 22
    Nate Says:

    Bub, it drives me crazy when he does that. He made out 2 in the bottom of the first sound like it was going to be a run scoring triple.

  23. 23
    Bub Says:

    Sigh, Bobby … why is Alex Gonzalez batting 8th? He’s the PERFRECT batter for this game. He has reverse splits (hits RHP better) and there’s a short porch in left.

  24. 24
    Bub Says:

    By the way I made that post before AGonz’s double.

  25. 25
    Bub Says:

    Aw, poor Minor…

  26. 26
    Nate Says:

    The Gonz.

  27. 27
    Nate Says:

    That sucks for Minor. He’ll never hear the end of that one.

  28. 28
    Bub Says:

    Happy Birthday, Jason!!!

  29. 29
    Steve Says:

    Really sucks for Minor, that non-hit. How crazy. But the kid is looking good.

    Bub – I just scored tickets today to the game on the 16th. Cannot wait to meet you. I’ll be in touch this week (and rope Anne in as well).

  30. 30
    Steve Says:

    Uh-oh.

  31. 31
    Bub Says:

    Steve, excellent. Have you figured the starter? It might be Jurrjens.

  32. 32
    Curt Says:

    Rinky dink on a couple of those. Too bad for Minor. I like that McCann keeps yelling words of support to him. Let’s score some runs now.

  33. 33
    Curt Says:

    Sadly I am out for Monday. Softball playoffs that night. See Leah, it’s not just you.

  34. 34
    Anne Says:

    This looks like a good time to go buy pork chops. (no decoder ring needed…I’m actually going to buy pork chops)

  35. 35
    Anne Says:

    Brian just heard I was cooking tomorrow. GO BRAVES!!!

  36. 36
    Bub Says:

    Anne with the… chop … talk.

    *hhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahaha… hello?*

  37. 37
    Nate Says:

    Poor Gonzo has the worst timing with his errors.

  38. 38
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Uh-huh…i hear ya Curt. What is up with the back and forth of this game? What is happening?

  39. 39
    Curt Says:

    Bombs by us, mortars by them

  40. 40
    Bub Says:

    sigh, sloppy baseball.

  41. 41
    Curt Says:

    More bloops. More errors. More unearned runs. Boring

  42. 42
    Bub Says:

    Feels like a loss already. That’s bad, considering we’re only down one against a last place team that we already swept once.

  43. 43
    Nate Says:

    Frank Wren’s trades need to play better.

  44. 44
    Bub Says:

    More sloppy play from Gonzalez. This road business is getting ridiculous. You’re grown men; play ball on the road already.

  45. 45
    Bub Says:

    What a meltdown. G’night.

  46. 46
    Nate Says:

    Awful.

  47. 47
    Anne Says:

    #36 – Awesome, Bub.

    Holy crap – THIS is why my mother tells me not to go shopping by myself at night. What the heck?? I leave for an hour…

  48. 48
    Nate Says:

    Our rookies brought a better game than our veterans. That’s not gonna get it done. Just a really sad effort from million dollar professional athletes.

  49. 49
    Bub Says:

    Maybe Dad can take me to see Inception…

  50. 50
    Steve Says:

    It may be time to get rid of Moylan’s entrance music at Turner Field.

  51. 51
    Nate Says:

    Here’s where you could use KK.

  52. 52
    Mara Wanna Says:

    What the heck?

  53. 53
    Anne Says:

    They can play TNT but the video can be of Wile E Coyote blowing himself up.

  54. 54
    Curt Says:

    Maybe they can play that circus music when the clowns file out of the little car.

  55. 55
    Mara Says:

    After missing the last three wins I was a little afraid to watch the games again for supersticious reasons. I guess after tonight I won’t worry about that. Go Braves?

  56. 56
    Nate Says:

    I guess Booby was referring to Blue Jays highlights when he said Alex Gonzalez never makes an error.

  57. 57
    Curt Says:

    Isn’t that why we brought him over here? He’s now cost us 2 games and contributed directly to a third.

  58. 58
    Steve Says:

    Agreed, Curtis. The sure handed Gonz has been anything but.

    This is from a listener who wrote in about why Smoltz wasn’t at the Glavine ceremony:

    I just wanted to let you know you were wondering why Smoltz wasnt at the Glavine ceremony. I just read the other day that he was trying to qualify for some golf tournament 3.5 hours away from Atlanta. He thought he wasnt gonna make it so he started driving back to attend the ceremony and they called him and said he made it so he had to turn back around and go back.

  59. 59
    Anne Says:

    I remember hearing him say last Wednesday that he was going toward Savannah to golf and planning to return for the ceremony. I kind of want to believe him…and as you’ll recall, I’m not a Smoltz fan, per se.

  60. 60
    Curt Says:

    That story about him playing in the golf tournament is true. it was the Georgia Open. He finished, as I just found out, in 29th place.

    “Future Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz making his Georgia Open debut carded another solid round of two-under par round of 70 which included a hole-in-one on the 172 yard 8th hole. Smoltz used a 5-iron for his 6th career ace, but his first one in an organized competition. After a rough start, he was three over through three holes, but he turned it around with a birdie on the fourth hole. Smoltz improved his position from a tie for 34th place into a tie for 29th place.”

    http://gapga.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/gapga10/event/gapga108/contest/1/leaderboard.htm

  61. 61
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I can’t believe I’m going to miss Martin’s return by 1 day. 1 SILLY LITTLE DAY!!!! Stupid rules.

  62. 62
    Anne Says:

    “Mara” Martin will be there all uniformed up, I’m sure! Hang out near the dugout during BP and call his name until he pops out like General Lee/Punxsutawney Phil. …and yes, I looked up that spelling. While I was at it, The Groundhog, so they say, “…is rumored to be fed a strict diet of banana pancakes but under no circumstances can he apply maple syrup.” Maybe Martin likes pancakes, too. Food keeps men around…a little something I’m sure you already know.

  63. 63
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Thanks for the tips Anne. Do you think he’ll bump his fists together if I ask him to?

  64. 64
    Anne Says:

    Oh, that’s just FILTHY.

  65. 65
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Haha! I mean like he does before his atbats just in case there is any confusion. I know how some of these minds work.

  66. 66
    Bub Says:

    “And the other one that Gonzalez made – he never makes an error. We’ve been catching the ball just great.” – Bob Cox

    I’m caught between ripping my shirt in twain and howling like a crazed wolf and … calmly dialing my shadiest friend to ask if he was kidding when he said he knows a real hit man who lives in Phoenix City. Which is the mature reaction?

  67. 67
    Nate Says:

    That’s just Bobby being Bobby.

  68. 68
    Bub Says:

    Steve, where will you be on Monday? We’re at 116 R, which he says is 3B side, 11th row. Does that put me in a decent spot to come meet you somewhere?

    I think pre-game is probably out. Sounds like we are leaving just in time to make first pitch or so.

  69. 69
    Nate Says:

    Tonights lineup: Infante, Heyward, Chip, Diaz, Mac, troy , Gonzo , Melky, JJ

  70. 70
    Bub Says:

    I like the small-letter troy. Subtle, appropriate.

  71. 71
    Mara Wanna Says:

    #Braves starters for four-game Dodgers series: Hudson on Friday, followed by Lowe, Jurrjens and Hanson.

    Looks like you guys will see Hanson.

  72. 72
    Bub Says:

    That works.

    Have I mentioned that I love our starting rotation? Even Lowe. (Yes I would still unload that nasty contract in a New Y*rk minute.)

  73. 73
    Bub Says:

    I just got back from Lowe’s game logs, where I had my mind somewhat blown. Did you know that in 12 of his 24 starts this season he has allowed 0, 1, or 2 runs???

    In 8 more of them he has allowed 3 or 4 runs (!!!!)

    Leaving only 4 of his 24 starts where he gave up 5 or more runs.

    The rest of the staff’s 5+ ER games:

    Jurrjens – 2 (in 12 starts, same rate as Lowe)
    Huddy – 1 (be still my heart)
    Hanson – 4
    Kawakami/Medlen/Minor – 3 (only 2 for KK… who knew?)

    I would say Lowe is holding down his spot amply.

  74. 74
    Mara Wanna Says:

    That’s good to know. I’ll be watching Lowe. He was fantastic when I saw him sweep the Phillies. Hopefully he will be as dominant. Do we face Ely?

  75. 75
    Bub Says:

    Team’s record when these peeps start:

    Huddy: 14-9
    Medlen: 13-1 (good grief. *sheds tear*)
    Hanson: 13-10
    Lowe: 12-12
    JJ: 7-5
    KK: 5-11
    Minor: 0-1

  76. 76
    Bub Says:

    Heyward scratched. Just shoot me.

  77. 77
    Bub Says:

    Infante
    Gonzo
    Chipper
    Diaz
    McCann
    Glaus
    Melky RF
    Ankiel
    JJ

  78. 78
    Curt Says:

    In all fairness, I knew about KK. Ham, however, did not. (Hater)

  79. 79
    Bub Says:

    Sore right knee on Heyward. :( :( :(

  80. 80
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Sore right knee. How bad can that be?

  81. 81
    Bub Says:

    Kyle Kendrick’s in deep dookie. Bases loaded, no outs. Trailing the Dodgers 3-0 in the 3rd.

  82. 82
    Bub Says:

    4th inning, I meant.

  83. 83
    Bub Says:

    Mara, pretty bad given Heyward’s strong resistance to coming out of a game.

    Bastardo in for the Phils, LA up 4-0. 1st and 3rd now, one out.

  84. 84
    Bub Says:

    Freeman with a double in 3 AB’s, one of Gwinnett’s only 4 hits. Also scored a run. Batting average at .306, no telling what his hit streak is at. I think it’s getting up there.

  85. 85
    Bub Says:

    Sigh, offense.

  86. 86
    Bub Says:

    6-0 Dodgers and counting. Go Blue.

  87. 87
    Bub Says:

    7-0

  88. 88
    Nate Says:

    Jim Powell: worst story-teller ever.

  89. 89
    Bub Says:

    Yeah, the Powell/Sutton team is starting to work my nerves, even though I love some of Jim’s calls. They get way too far away from the game. This is a pennant race for Pete’s sake. Definitely turning on some V. Scully in the next series.

  90. 90
    Nate Says:

    *story-teller instead of storyteller. it’s been a long one. i think i got dumber listening to him spend 7-8 outs talking about the cards/reds strife

  91. 91
    Curt Says:

    The Houston swinging bunts strike again

  92. 92
    Bub Says:

    Sure would like a DP right here and start with the Pitcher next inning.

  93. 93
    Bub Says:

    C’mon, JJ. Guy hits .186, throw him a strike.

  94. 94
    Bub Says:

    Oy, not THAT strike.

  95. 95
    Bub Says:

    Ugh, there was the stinking DP ball and Gonzo frigs us again.

    Don’t make me say the words “I miss E*c&b*r, Gonzo.

  96. 96
    Bub Says:

    Crap, here comes the Phils…

  97. 97
    Bub Says:

    Nice fundamentals, Braves. :(

  98. 98
    Bub Says:

    Ankiel caught in LA LA Land. This team is playing like GARBAGE. SH*T on them! Straighten UP!!!

  99. 99
    Curt Says:

    Padilla pitching for the Dodgers. I wouldn’t get too comfortable with that one.

  100. 100
    Bub Says:

    Padilla’s got a 3.05 ERA, what am I missing? He’s given up 0-2 runs in each of his last 8 starts, too.

  101. 101
    Bub Says:

    Matt’s about to crush the ball. Calling it.

  102. 102
    Bub Says:

    … of the second baseman as he slides in cleats up on this stolen base…

  103. 103
    Bub Says:

    Okay, Curt, point taken I guess.

    7-4 Dodgers.

  104. 104
    Bub Says:

    At least we finally got one hit against Cy Happ.

  105. 105
    Curt Says:

    7-4

  106. 106
    Curt Says:

    I think the Braves are seeing Happ in his Phils uniform

  107. 107
    Bub Says:

    Don’t be curt with me.

  108. 108
    Bub Says:

    Could be. That does HAPPen.

    *crickets*

  109. 109
    Bub Says:

    lol, nice call, Sutton.

    Dives and mmmmmmmmmmmmm… *pause* …mmmmmmmakes the catch.

  110. 110
    Bub Says:

    Philly playing reliever ’round the rosey. 8-4 with plenty to go in this Dodger threat.

  111. 111
    Bub Says:

    9-4 blue boys, with a guy on 3rd they should get in.

  112. 112
    Bub Says:

    “Troy for whom every step … seems like agony” – Sutton.

    Somebody should tell Don that Glaus says he’s fine. Bobby is a non-managing so and so. Incentives. Just give him the money and sit him down.

  113. 113
    Nate Says:

    Hah, for a second I thought Ankiel had either swallowed it or had the ball go inside his jersey like Conrad in Chicago. I’ll give Sutton credit, though, agonizing is the perfect word to describe every moment of Glaus’ play.

  114. 114
    Nate Says:

    Bub, 112, awesome.

    Our offense is sad.

  115. 115
    Bub Says:

    No, I believe Sutton is right. Just taking a jab at Glaus’ lies about it.

  116. 116
    Curt Says:

    God bless the Dodgers

  117. 117
    Nate Says:

    When we went to Miami to watch Braves-Marlins, my friend compared watching Glaus run the bases to watching her dad run the bases in his softball league. Her dad is a retired cop, is about 6′ 4″ 250, and wears a huge knee brace when he plays. Not a good comparison for a 33 year-old professional athlete.

  118. 118
    Bub Says:

    Another mental error. That’s three in this game after last night’s horror show. Might be time to take a few days off for me in preparation for the game with my dad.

  119. 119
    Curt Says:

    Padilla just got pulled.

  120. 120
    Nate Says:

    It’s like they thought “Oh, it’s the Astros. This will be easy” after the Giants series.

  121. 121
    Curt Says:

    As we like to say “Drop your anchor”

  122. 122
    Bub Says:

    Good job, Jair.

  123. 123
    Bub Says:

    Nate, I really thought they would respond to the air conditioning by doing well in this series after the sauna games in Atlanta. What I get for thinking I guess.

  124. 124
    Nate Says:

    Yeah, I thought this could be an easy sweep. Wrong.

  125. 125
    Bub Says:

    Bobby’s ignorance showing in the line up again tonight. He has no idea about Gonzo’s reverse split. Hit him 8th last night against the RHP and 2nd tonight against the lefty. Stupid.

  126. 126
    Nate Says:

    Maybe the air conditioning is the problem. We didn’t play very well in Arizona either.

  127. 127
    Anne Says:

    Oh, Chipper. No good. No good at all.

  128. 128
    Bub Says:

    There goes Chipper for the rest of the season.

  129. 129
    Nate Says:

    Did Chipper just die?

  130. 130
    Anne Says:

    Not dead, but I think Bobby will be cradling him soon.

  131. 131
    Nate Says:

    Look what they did to my boy…

  132. 132
    Bub Says:

    Nate, that should NOT be funny.

  133. 133
    Ham Says:

    Oh dear . . .

  134. 134
    Bub Says:

    “Look how they massacred my boy…” to be technical. :)

    Have you seen that Jim Brockhimer spoof or whatever it is?

  135. 135
    Bub Says:

    lol, Baez.

  136. 136
    Bub Says:

    Astros manager must have less cajones than Cox. Leaving Happ in to suffer after two straight walks.

    Stinking Phils scoring again. Down by a touchdown now.

  137. 137
    Bub Says:

    Mills is a moron.

    Good job, Glaus. *spits phlegm*

  138. 138
    Curt Says:

    was cleaning up. what happened to chipper?

  139. 139
    Nate Says:

    I’m really glad that guy isn’t on the Phillies anymore.

  140. 140
    Bub Says:

    Curt, Chipper went down in a heap after throwing out a runner and landing hard on the turf. Probably his knee. Left leg. Couldn’t put pressure on it being walked off the field.

  141. 141
    Curt Says:

    thanks bub. just saw the replay. that’s an ACL.

  142. 142
    Curt Says:

    god that sucks. he was killing it.

  143. 143
    Bub Says:

    I’m guessing that doesn’t stand for Alright Chipper Leg.

  144. 144
    Curt Says:

    Same leg he tore up before. I’m sick

  145. 145
    Bub Says:

    Sigh. Zero out triple.

  146. 146
    Curt Says:

    no one even warming up

  147. 147
    Nate Says:

    worst. series. ever.

  148. 148
    Bub Says:

    This is where you bring in Wagner/Venters in the 8th and let Venters/Wagner close. Need a K.

  149. 149
    Bub Says:

    GREAT K!!!

  150. 150
    Curt Says:

    Moylan? Seriously?

  151. 151
    Bub Says:

    Bobby hates Atlanta.

  152. 152
    Bub Says:

    Well, what else is new.

  153. 153
    Bub Says:

    Gonzalez has cost us 4 games if we lose this one. I can’t stand him. I’d rather have Yunel Escobar. This team is falling apart.

  154. 154
    Curt Says:

    Walt Weiss he is not

  155. 155
    Nate Says:

    This game sucks.

  156. 156
    Curt Says:

    DOB tweeted that Gonzalez has 5 errors since becoming a Brave. Braves have lost each of those games.

  157. 157
    Bub Says:

    Trying very hard to resist some nasty feelings about this team right now. I know they have more in them than this. I still hope in them, but it is very, very thin.

  158. 158
    Curt Says:

    i’m going to offer my usual ray of sunshine here and declare that this will not turn out well.

    i repeat, moylan? seriously?

  159. 159
    Bub Says:

    My God.

  160. 160
    Curt Says:

    defensive whiz

  161. 161
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I WANT ESCOBAR BACK!!!!

  162. 162
    Nate Says:

    Grounder to short…

  163. 163
    Nate Says:

    Huge, Mac. Huge.

  164. 164
    Bub Says:

    Good glove, Glaus.

    POS infield.

  165. 165
    Nate Says:

    Why?

  166. 166
    Curt Says:

    you could hear the tree falling sound as glaus tried to scoop that one.

    WHAT IS GOING ON?

  167. 167
    Bub Says:

    Hanson & JJ can’t wait to pitch for a team with defense and offense to get them the numbers they deserve.

  168. 168
    Curt Says:

    the oohs and aahs from the Astros’ crowd as we throw balls away really adds to the ambiance.

  169. 169
    Nate Says:

    Sprained knee…

  170. 170
    Curt Says:

    those are sweet stats

  171. 171
    Curt Says:

    So our trades have produced a SS who can’t field, and pitcher who can’t get anyone out, and a CF who strikes out every other time he hits.

    well played team.

  172. 172
    Bub Says:

    Wren has gone from B+ to C in stinking deadline.

  173. 173
    Bub Says:

    *one…

  174. 174
    Bub Says:

    LOL, I’ll just be damned.

  175. 175
    Nate Says:

    Mr Effing Clutch

  176. 176
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Oh sweet Brooksy!

  177. 177
    Nate Says:

    That’s awesome. didn’t the astros let Brooksy go before he came to atlanta?

  178. 178
    Bub Says:

    Brooks Conrad responsible for some sweet, sweet memories.

    If Wags blows the save, I shoot myself in the eye with a flare gun.

  179. 179
    Nate Says:

    Nope. Oakland. Still awesome.

  180. 180
    Curt Says:

    i smell gasoline

  181. 181
    Curt Says:

    i think the earth just fell off its axis

  182. 182
    Nate Says:

    That just earned Glaus 2 more weeks of playing time.

  183. 183
    Mara Wanna Says:

    That was way prettier than his defensive play. Astro’s announcer said, “Glaus, always better down than up.” That’s not very nice to say.

  184. 184
    Bub Says:

    Alex and Troy… have now glaussed over their defensive errors.

  185. 185
    Bub Says:

    Wagner: “Say hello to my little friend!”

  186. 186
    Mara Wanna Says:

    That was stressful. Did you guys see Conrad’s hand as he was giving high fives? Dirty and calloused. That guys is awesome.

  187. 187
    Bub Says:

    I feel like I was watching the Bad News Bears and granny switched the channel to The Natural.

  188. 188
    Curt Says:

    let’s see if this does something for the team. they finally manage to win a game they tried to lose in every conceivable fashion. got to get the D figured out.

  189. 189
    Nate Says:

    Does anyone who saw the Chipper injury think it could just be a sprain? Or does everyone pretty much think the MRI is gonna come back with some sort of major ligament injury?

  190. 190
    Bub Says:

    Not seeing it, but knowing Chipper, I fully expect a season ending, warpfangled assbutt. Love him, but his body is Hamptonized.

  191. 191
    Nate Says:

    Postgame radio guys think it’s a major injury. That’s really sad. He was tearing it up.

  192. 192
    Curt Says:

    your knee doesn’t normally turn outward without bad results. i expect horrible results. and with that, the end of his career.

  193. 193
    Curt Says:

    merry, merry christmas

  194. 194
    Bub Says:

    Do ACL’s end careers? (This may sound like I’m being cute, but I have no idea.)

  195. 195
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Brooksy is #1 trending topic!

  196. 196
    Nate Says:

    At his age, probably. That’s a lot of rehabbing just to get back in a year. And at 39…

  197. 197
    Nate Says:

    We need Prado back ASAP.

  198. 198
    Curt Says:

    Yeah, i’m thinking he would probably miss most of next season. It’s a year deal

  199. 199
    Bub Says:

    Yeah, but… he said it didn’t pop “like that.” No faith?

  200. 200
    Anne Says:

    My Pandora dot com just played “Your Love” by The Outfield. I missed Kelly J. for just a moment…and now I’m over it. I remember why he said he used that song, but so completely lame for an At-Bat…

  201. 201
    Curt Says:

    I’ll have faith until we hear otherwise. they are saying tomorrow now for the MRI. glad he has a reference point from which to speak. And from personal experience, I sprained my ACL in a similar fashion (I fell down drunk at a bar) and it certainly made an audible popping sound. So it can make a sound and not be torn. I’ll keep my fingers crossed. Just seems like the Braves are not catching any breaks right now on the injury front.

  202. 202
    Bub Says:

    I saw the time for us to make our move on Philly on the respective schedules just now. Philly owes a couple of make up games, turning their August 17th – September 8th stretch into a 24 games in 23 days guantlet. In the middle of it, while we’re hosting the Marlins and Mets, they’ll be visiting San Diego, the Dodgers, and a make up game with Colorado.

    That’s when we strike.

  203. 203
    Bub Says:

    hahaha at Curt falling down drunk. I cracked my head in similar mode. What did you in? Vodka shots for me; my first ones ever.

  204. 204
    Bub Says:

    That’s not a typo, by the way: 24 games in 23 days – a doubleheader with Florida and a Rockies game wedged into where they had one skinny off day.

  205. 205
    Bub Says:

    I can not beLIEVE it is 8:20 in the morning. Holy…

    good NIGHT.

  206. 206
    Curt Says:

    Guiness. the best part was lying in a heap and having the waitress just step over me as she continued to serve the table i was under.

  207. 207
    Nate Says:

    Curt, 201, made me have to clean coffee off of my floor do to spitting it during laughter. Nicely done. I’m kind of optimistic for a sprain. I remember watching a game on tv years ago where the Braves were playing the Expos in Montreal, and Brian Jordan slipped over first base trying to beat out a grounder and his knee bent backwards and made a V shape. It was pretty disgusting to watch. He came out of the game and many thought that was it for the year for Brian. It turned out to be a sprain and he was back days later. Granted, Chipper is nowhere near as agile and flexible as BJ, but I’ll remain optimistic. If his career ends on that play I will be very very sad for him.

  208. 208
    Nate Says:

    Can we hire Chipper’s dad as our hitting coach?

  209. 209
    Bub Says:

    http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/08/mets_outfielder_jeff_francoeur_1.html

    Wow. Frenchy’s an ass.

  210. 210
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Finally got to listen to the show partially due to time allowed after running out of gas on I 95N yesterday. The Officer who assisted me was very nice and only laughed a little which I appreciated. Anywho, i hate to bring KK up but I must have my say. If he spoke honestly with DOB then the club served him very ill indeed. However none of us really know how it was handled and the guy can’t even speak English so who knows what was misinterpreted or misunderstood. Either way, I don’t care how badly a guy is playing the bad stewardship of letting him sit and stiffen sickens me. He’s on the freaking roster…at least keep him ready to carry water or something. Maybe some of the fault should also be on KK. Take Martin Prado…on the DL but is more excited than anybody when Infante gets a leadoff hit. He keeps life in the dugout. Yes, I’m his biggest fan. Yes, seeing him bump his fists together before each at bat sends chills up my spine. I also think the success of a player has a lot to do with his attitude. Maybe I’m speaking out of both sides of my mouth but that just proves how very talented I am.

  211. 211
    Anne Says:

    #209 – agreed, Bub. I don’t read a lot of sports articles, I’ll admit, but: is it typical that a player’s agent has so much to say in an article about their client? I bet SHE’s fun at a cocktail party…

  212. 212
    Nate Says:

    Does Frenchy have an incentive claus on how many times he strikes out or grounds out? His moaning for more playing time against righties makes no sense. I agree with Bub, Frenchy’s an ass. Benching him is one of the better move Manuel has ever made as a manager. It cracks me up that his agent uses “we” when talking about needed plate appearances. I guess she’s going to spoon Frenchy in the box while he strikes out.

  213. 213
    Curt Says:

    The Royals are on line 2………

  214. 214
    Nate Says:

    Good news from DOB on the injured Braves.

  215. 215
    Nate Says:

    Hanson showing the other hitters how it’s done with a 2 out RBI single.

  216. 216
    Bub Says:

    Ross calls a ton more breaking stuff from Tommy than McCann. Adding that to Ross’s superior defense (with Tommy’s please-steal-a-base delivery) and I think they should consider making it a full time deal.

    I doubt they’ll do it, though. Hanson faced a lefty last time out and they batted McCann, so…

  217. 217
    Nate Says:

    Bub, excellent point. He is mixing his pitches really well.

  218. 218
    Mara Says:

    Anybody else think Rodriguez has an enormous melon head?

  219. 219
    Curt Says:

    19 errors in the last 12 games? 7 in the last 3? yikes

  220. 220
    Bub Says:

    Hey, Bob. You wanna give Venters a breather?

  221. 221
    Bob Says:

    Nope.

  222. 222
    Mara Says:

    Really coulda used an insurance run or two.

  223. 223
    Bub Says:

    Our starting pitching is outrageous.

  224. 224
    Curt Says:

    Not so much our closer

  225. 225
    Mara Says:

    Oh he’s our close he’s just our very very tired, overused closer.

  226. 226
    Bub Says:

    sigh.

  227. 227
    Nate Says:

    Hanson can’t buy a win.

  228. 228
    Curt Says:

    Brutal. Can we not just leave Venters out there? Bub, check and see what Wagner does on the 2nd day of a back-to-back.

  229. 229
    Bub Says:

    Curt, believe it or not, only 4 of his 7 blown saves came on 2nd day of back-to-back, and on none of those was he on a 3rd straight day.

    Before yesterday, he hadn’t pitched since the 7th. Seems like he should be able to handle that.

  230. 230
    Curt Says:

    Guess I could do that

  231. 231
    Bub Says:

    Yessir, Omar. Yessir.

  232. 232
    Nate Says:

    Omar!

  233. 233
    Mara Says:

    AHHHHHHH!!!! Glad we scored but why is Ankiel watching the play instead of ducking his head and booking it home! It wasn’t close but it coulda been. Drives me crazy.

  234. 234
    Bub Says:

    He thought it was a homer. Escobar-level dumbness. Team needs its head out of its ass.

    Luckily we can’t lose for winning right now.

  235. 235
    Bub Says:

    p.s. he has to watch the play with only 1 out, but he did it wrong.

  236. 236
    Mara Says:

    Or he should just hit a homer so he can trot and look every which a way as he runs the bases. Thanks MAC!!

  237. 237
    Bub (as Curt) Says:

    that helps.

  238. 238
    Curt Says:

    Wagner just wanted the win

  239. 239
    Bub Says:

    Man, what a series. Blown saves, blown leads, errors all over the place, Chipper down, Prado down, Heyward down… how in the world did we get out of there with 2 wins?

    Well, we’re owed that one from a couple series we should have swept, I guess.

    Eat it, Phils.

  240. 240
    Mara Says:

    “he has to watch the play with only 1 out, but he did it wrong”…trying to understand. He was trying to see if he should have stopped at 3rd? Not being sarcastic…I’m sure it seems simple to most…I’m still learning.

  241. 241
    Bub Says:

    Well, I just mean he had to at least check it out long enough to make sure it wasn’t caught. Can’t go head-down sprint from 2nd on a fly ball unless there are two outs.

  242. 242
    Bub Says:

    Any of you parental types fans of Spongebob? I like the first two seasons. By like, I mean own on DVD and watch every night to fall asleep happy. I think those two seasons are genuinely witty and fun.

  243. 243
    Bub Says:

    Over their last 5 starts (each), Hudson/Hanson/Jurrjens have allowed a total of 27 earned runs in 103.0 innings. (2.35 ERA)

    Halladay/Oswalt/Hamels have allowed 35 in 100.1 (3.14 ERA)

    I’m surprised the Braves starters have outlasted the Phillies starters.

    And by the way, that includes Hudson’s 6 run season-worst game. Remove that outing and the ERA of the trio over their last 14 total starts drops to 1.94!!!

  244. 244
    Curt Says:

    My sons are huge Spongebob fans. It has its moments. It can be really irritating at times. He likes to yell a lot.

  245. 245
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Oh ok. I thought he looked over his shoulder after he rounded 3rd. I was very excited at the time so my memory is fuzzy.

  246. 246
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I miss Cledus and Wiley. And that dude I thought was a chick…what was his name? Where DO these people go?

  247. 247
    Bub Says:

    Yeah, me, too. And Ham should write more.

  248. 248
    Bub Says:

    Okay, what is up with this. I played Wizard of Oz DVD on my laptop while I was cleaning the kitchen and then when I was done and went to google to look something up, my Google was all decked out in Wizard of Oz decor.

    Is everybody else’s Google all Wiz’d up, too, and it’s just a weird coincidence? Or is my privacy being invaded?

  249. 249
    Will Says:

    freaky, my google has Wiz Oz photo

  250. 250
    Mara Wanna Says:

    First WOO screening was 71 years ago today. Wow Bub, talk about being one with the universe.

  251. 251
    Curt Says:

    My dad still has flying monkey nightmares.

  252. 252
    Mara Wanna Says:

    I’m hoping the Dodgers win tonight in the 15th inning.

  253. 253
    Ham Says:

    Sorry, Bub. I am more of a “talkie” than a “writie” but I will try to do better. Anyone heard news on the biggest MRI since JJ’s?

  254. 254
    Curt Says:

    Torn ACL. Out for the year. Dimino just spoke with Chipper and reported it.

  255. 255
    Ham Says:

    Wow – should be an interesting few days here. Let the speculation begin . . . we gotta make a move now, don’t we?

  256. 256
    Nate Says:

    .Will they call up FF?

  257. 257
    Curt Says:

    Who’s out there? And who would clear waivers to get to the braves? The phils could block every move if they wanted

  258. 258
    Steve Says:

    I don’t know that the Chipper news should have any affect on calling up Freeman. There is no way they are moving Glaus to 3rd.

    Really bummed about Chipper. Crappy way to potentially end his career.

  259. 259
    Nate Says:

    Steve, you’re probably right on Freeman. My guess is that Infante will stay at 2nd and Prado will move to 3rd when he’s back. Diory will have to stay on the team to be a back up infielder, but who do you call up to replace Chipper?

  260. 260
    Anne Says:

    Agreed with all above re Chipper – that ain’t a good way to go out. When you guys say “replace Chipper,” do you mean Brooks Conrad (who could replace Chipper @ 3rd)? …or could it not work that way?

  261. 261
    Nate Says:

    I meant his roster spot. I guess it could be Diory when Prado gets back, but it will be interesting to see what the Braves do in the meantime. I’m sure Conrad will continue to play 3rd until Prado is back. After that, I don’t know. Hard to justify putting Omar back on the bench with the way he’s hitting…

  262. 262
    Anne Says:

    “Mara” – I’ve been meaning to say this and I’ll forget before the weekend: fingers crossed that Alan will be back – you’ll see him before I will, because I’ve handed away all of my weekend tickets. We’re trading states. You’ll be in GA and I’ll be in NC. PLEASE say hello for me and tell him I’ll see him Monday!

    Oh, and Curt & Steve will be jealous to know that Ballpark Frank will be taking my day game tickets next Thursday.

  263. 263
    Curt Says:

    Damn you Frank

  264. 264
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ok Anne. I’ll give him a big ole hug for ya. I really hate this for Chipper. Terrible way to potentially end a career. He was hitting great, really hitting his stride. That being said, I wonder when the last time was for Chipper to play 7 weeks without some unexplained/nagging injury. I guess what I mean to say is, while I hate that Chipper is hurt and out for the season was it realistic to expect him to continue playing so well? If we DO get somebody (and I don’t know who it’d be) or call up FF that seems better than Bobby continuing to play chipper with some tiny hinderance that goes unaddressed. Maybe I’m just attempting to find some silver lining.

  265. 265
    Mara Wanna Says:

    http://bit.ly/9NXSTp

  266. 266
    Steve Says:

    Nate – I agree that Diory takes Chipper’s spot. Prado to 3rd and Infante to 2nd, I’d guess.

  267. 267
    Nate Says:

    I really hope Chipper rehabs and retires on his own terms. I know that’s asking a lot out of him, but I really, really hope he does it.

  268. 268
    Chipper's Ego Says:

    Oh, Nate, you’re HILARIOUS!!

  269. 269
    Ham Says:

    Is Vinny Castilla still available?

  270. 270
    Bub Says:

    *yaaaawn*

    S’up, peeps?

    Glad to see we’ve all been Wiz’d at Google. Yeah, Mara, I’m either one with the universe or, like I told my mom when I was 7, doesn’t the universe just follow me around?

    Chipper frownie face. :( Guess I’ll go read the news.

  271. 271
    Bub Says:

    “Let the speculation begin . . . we gotta make a move now, don’t we?”

    I don’t think they feel they have to. Still have Infante and Conrad on the depth chart, so it isn’t desperate.

    They’re talking about Chipper on Dodger radio right now. Lot’s of nice things. It’s hard for us to appreciate how much others think of him as a permanent fixture in the sport, and how weird it is for them to think of facing the Braves without seeing him.

  272. 272
    Mara Wanna Says:

    #270 Bub, you haven’t noticed a change in your incisors or had a strange aversion to garlic lately have you?

  273. 273
    Nate Says:

    8-2 Dodgers, top of the 8th

  274. 274
    Curt Says:

    Ole Fat Joe getting rocked again.

  275. 275
    Nate Says:

    I am really glad we don’t have to face Kershaw this series.

  276. 276
    Steve Says:

    Enjoy: http://bit.ly/9RyC0S

  277. 277
    Nate Says:

    Well….

  278. 278
    Nate Says:

    9-5 Dodgers, Bot 8th, no outs. Torre pulling a Bobby.

  279. 279
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Nice that they had to go deep into the pen and I like the length of the game but now it’s time to shut her down.

  280. 280
    Bub Says:

    Steve, is one of those cops Troy Glaus??? Nice.

  281. 281
    Bub Says:

    Broxton, you’re a day early on your meltdown.

  282. 282
    Mara Wanna Says:

    sickening…sick and wrong

  283. 283
    Bub Says:

    No worries. That will buy the Braves an extra win in the series.

  284. 284
    Mara Wanna Says:

    This is a very cool article about the sport we all love to the point of obsession.

    http://www.firstthings.com/article/2010/07/a-perfect-game

  285. 285
    Mara Wanna Says:

    So Bub…what your saying is we’re gonna sweep ‘em right?

  286. 286
    Bub Says:

    A 4 game sweep against that pitching is a tall order. 3 of 4.

  287. 287
    Mara Wanna Says:

    http://bit.ly/boFSvr

    Trade rumors.

  288. 288
    Steve Says:

    Mara – I had created my Tiny URL and was about to post that very article.

    Talk about baseless conjecture. All this is saying is that someone believes this would be a good deal.

  289. 289
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Do we think it would be a good deal? Do we want more bargain bin offense? He’s been hot lately but Troy was hot in May.

    http://buzztap.com/-HTlL03

  290. 290
    Steve Says:

    I don’t like the Chone Figgins move (aside from the money stuff that Carroll Rogers just covered well on DOB’s new blog) because it doesn’t gain us much. If we bring someone in for 3rd base, then Prado moves back to 2nd and Infante is on the bench. In other words, you gain the new player and lose Infante. And Figgins’ line this year, in 494 PA’s is: .253 .343 .303

    Infante’s numbers, in 287 PA’s is: .330 .360 .404. And he has 2 more homers (I’ll ignore Figgins’ 24 more stolen bases).

    We don’t need less pop in the lineup. The only move that makes sense is bringing in someone who is significantly better than Infante with much more power.

  291. 291
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Agreed!

  292. 292
    Kate Says:

    Braves are recalling Hicks to replace Chipper.

  293. 293
    Steve Says:

    1. Infante 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Gonzalez SS, 4. McCann C, 5. Glaus 1B, 6. Hinske LF, 7. Conrad 3B, 8. Ankiel CF, 9. Hudson P

    For the love of Pete, can we not, now, put Heyward in the 3 spot?

  294. 294
    Bub Says:

    No to Chone.

  295. 295
    Nate Says:

    I don’t like Gonzo batting 3rd. Hopefully having him and Glaus in the middle of the order is not the permanent solution. The lineup needs to have Prado-Infante-Heyward at the top once Prado is back. Steve, I agree there is no reason to still be batting Jason 2nd with no Chipper.

  296. 296
    Nate Says:

    Why would you get rid of Yunel for character issues and then trade for Chone Figgins? The first one already made us a weaker team. Getting Chone might put us out of the postseason because Chone would play over Infante. Probably just a rumor…

  297. 297
    Bub Says:

    Would be a total joke to acquire Figgins, for the reasons you state, Nate. I would be dumbfounded.

    Agreed on Gonzo in the 3 spot and Glaus in the middle. Hope the pitching holds up because this offense is really getting thin. I count 3 reliable hitters in that line up: Infante, Heyward, McCann.

    Heyward might go off tonight if he only had some protection behind him. Yuck. Not a good feeling.

  298. 298
    Bub Says:

    Chipper should retire.

    No surprise, though.

  299. 299
    Nate Says:

    Yeah, hopefully Huddy’s got it goin’ on tonight because our lineup looks sad.

  300. 300
    Anne Says:

    Hello from Asheville. Huddy ALWAYS has it goin’ on. …and he can pitch, too.

  301. 301
    Nate Says:

    Oh no, Lemke is in for Powell….

  302. 302
    Bub Says:

    Nate, I was gonna switch to Scully, but he’s not on. :(

  303. 303
    Nate Says:

    Sutton is taking the lead, so I can deal. I don’t like their idea of the Braves relying on Glaus to be “the guy” down the stretch.

  304. 304
    Nate Says:

    That was a nice double, though. Maybe Glaus heats up again…

  305. 305
    Curt Says:

    Problem is that when Glaus hits a double, it takes a homer to get him in.

  306. 306
    Bub Says:

    That’s 0 for 9 with runners on base so far in this game, for anyone curious.

    The best thing about our hitting is our pitching.

  307. 307
    Nate Says:

    This series might be a lot like that Giants series last weekend.

  308. 308
    Nate Says:

    Bub, which game are you and your dad going to?

  309. 309
    Curt Says:

    Oh offense, you suck.

  310. 310
    Bub Says:

    Monday’s game. I would say that’s bad cuz Bobby thins the line up on last games, but in this case… what’s the difference…

    Tommy Hanson pitches, that much I’m excited about.

  311. 311
    Nate Says:

    Freeman is already 2-3, 1 RBI, 1 R

  312. 312
    Nate Says:

    That’s pretty sweet that you guys get to see Hanson.

  313. 313
    Nate Says:

    Teheran had another good start with the MS Braves last night.

  314. 314
    Bub Says:

    Thanks for the Freddie updated. He had a rare 0-fer last night. Good to see him going.

    Speaking of last night, Teheran pitched another good game. Gave up 2 dinky runs, but only 5 total baserunners in 7 innings. 2.70 ERA in four starts in Mississippi (bad debut followed by 3 great outings.)

    Erase his first outing, and he’s got a 0.90 ERA.

    0 for 12 with runners on base now. Unless they awarded Infante a sacrifice. Then it’d be 0 for 11.

  315. 315
    Nate Says:

    Uh-oh, Lemke play-by-play…

  316. 316
    Curt Says:

    Infante got the sacrifice.

    Mets 1 – Phils 0. Final

    My oldest son just told me that the other team is going to win because Chipper Jones is our best player.

  317. 317
    Curt Says:

    JRALM Dickey with a one hiter. One hit was to Hamels

  318. 318
    Nate Says:

    Did Halladay go in that one?

  319. 319
    Nate Says:

    I guess not, since Hamels got the only hit. I’ve been drinking.

  320. 320
    Nate Says:

    Brooks. Conrad.

  321. 321
    Curt Says:

    Conrad – 7 homers from the 7th inning on. Is that good?

  322. 322
    Bub Says:

    lol, Natie.

    Brooks Conrad, just wow.

    Gotta love Dickey!

    (twss…)

  323. 323
    Steve Says:

    Curt, #305 – hilarious.

    How about Brooks Conrad? Gotta love it. The offense as a whole – gotta not love it.

  324. 324
    Bub Says:

    Need runs. Please, no Wags drama tonight.

  325. 325
    Nate Says:

    Come on, Billy.

  326. 326
    Bub Says:

    *wringing hands*

    Ethier up 3rd.

  327. 327
    Steve Says:

    So much for no drama. C’mon Billy.

  328. 328
    Curt Says:

    Anyone else nervous?

  329. 329
    Curt (as Curt) Says:

    That’s better

  330. 330
    WILL Says:

    sweet

  331. 331
    Curt Says:

    Thank god for Hudson

  332. 332
    Nate Says:

    Suck it Phils.

  333. 333
    Bub Says:

    Whew. Good win.

    I’d kiss a war eagle for Timothy Hudson.

  334. 334
    Bub Says:

    Last year the Braves won 40 home games.

    This year, 40 so far. (15 losses).

  335. 335
    Nate Says:

    Did anyone else notice that Chipper looks like he has shed a few pounds since this past Spring and the early part of this year? Maybe that had something to do with his bat picking up.

  336. 336
    Bub Says:

    Crack Research

    These are just these starters’ ERA’s versus Atlanta IN THESE GAMES. Not for the year, or career, etc. But, just a glimpse at our lately offense versus what these pitchers normally allow.

    Last ten starters faced:

    Kuroda 3.53 … vs. Atlanta, 1.28
    Wandy 4.18 … vs. Atlanta, 0.77
    Happ 4.16 ….. vs. Atlanta, 1.48
    Norris 5.64 …. vs. Atlanta, 5.80
    Sanchez 3.55 ..vs. Atlanta, 9.00
    Cain 3.06 ……. vs. Atlanta, 5.40
    Zito 3.35 …….. vs. Atlanta, 2.57
    Lincecum 3.15 ..vs. Atlanta, 4.42
    Pelfrey 4.16 ….vs. Atlanta, 6.43
    Dickey 2.36 ….. vs. Atlanta, 3.00
    Santana 3.20 …vs. Atlanta, 5.14

    So, we’ve scored less than the average runs allowed against

    Kuroda,
    Wandy,
    Happ,
    Zito.

    And scored more than the average runs allowed against

    Norris,
    Sanchez,
    Cain,
    Lincecum,
    Pelfrey,
    Dickey,
    Santana.

    Worth nothing that we’ve faced 7 starters out of 10 with ERA’s of 3.55 or lower, and beaten 5 of them.

    Another note: 3 of the four times the we’ve underscored the opposing starters ERA’s have been the last 3 games we’ve played.

  337. 337
    Mara Wanna Says:

    FINALLY made it through torrential rain and stupid construction to get to the A-T-L. Listened to the game , very exciting! Hope the rain holds off tomorrow…rather tonight. Anne, we seriously could have passed eachother. Enjoy NC. Are you going to the Biltmore?

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    Curt Says:

    Anne, if you have never been, and have the time, you really should see the Biltmore. It’s really amazing. And get the audio tour.

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    Nate Says:

    Freddie Freeman finished last night 4-5, 2B, RBI, R. Now at .309, 15 HR, 73 RBI. Keep in mind this guy hit below .270 for much of the first half.

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    Nate Says:

    Talking Chop hit the nail on the head today with their piece on Freeman, Canizares, and Glaus. I had no idea Canizares was hitting .388 since the break.

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    Nate Says:

    I just don’t see how the Braves can be relying this heavily on production from an obviously injured Troy Glaus, especially when they have 2 guys at AAA who are healthy, play the same position, and are hitting like crazy.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    So I’m looking at the forecast and um…

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Braves lineup: 1. Infante 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Gonzalez SS, 4. Glaus 1B, 5. McCann c, 6. Diaz LF, 7. Conrad 3B, 8. Cabrera CF, 9. Lowe P.

  344. 344
    Anne Says:

    Really great, them Vanderbilts! Saw the Biltmore today – completely awesome – still 2nd, in my opinion, to Hearst Castle, but maybe it’s the Californian in me. Also saw Carl Sandburg’s house and hung out with his goats. Haven’t had a bum meal here in Asheville yet. GO Braves!!!

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    Curt Says:

    Anne, I need to find the name of the Italian joint we ate at. It was tremendous

  346. 346
    Curt Says:

    Vincenzo’s

  347. 347
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Crowd is ca-razy!

  348. 348
    Nate Says:

    Our “big right handed bat in the middle of the order” just got dominated by Ted Lilly. SAD.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Poop.

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    Curt Says:

    0-3 RISP in one inning from the heart of the lineup

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Collective sigh of relief.

  352. 352
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Dude beside me won’t stop trying to start the wave.

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    Bub Says:

    Anne, weird coincidence. My best friend called me just now to read me three Carl Sandburg poems that caught his interest somehow or other. I’d never even heard of him.

  354. 354
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Brooksy=butterfingers tonight. Was that really a balk?

  355. 355
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Just showed a clip of BC taking the ball from KK.

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    Bub Says:

    Braves 0 for 23 with runners on base in these two games.

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    Anne Says:

    Sandburg’s home is lovely – as are the goats on the dairy farm. Actually, just give me the goats.
    “Mara” – any Alan sightings??

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    Steve Says:

    I officially have no faith that we win tonight. I’d like to say this is a reverse jinx, but it’s really not.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Can someone tell Steve I’m very mad at him right now for comment #358?

    Anne, he’s at the top of the stairs. I haven’t been able to chat with him yet.

  360. 360
    Steve Says:

    My son just said, “well, maybe Conrad will hit a 2 run homer.” And all I could think was that would mean they’d actually get a hit with a man on base.

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    Curt Says:

    Can someone explain to John Smoltz that the word he is looking for is tertiary, not thirdiary. He’s said that twice now.

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    Bub Says:

    0 for 24 with runners on base.

    3 outs away from being no hit for an entire game’s worth of outs with runners on.

  363. 363
    Bub Says:

    Melky breaks up the no no!

  364. 364
    Bub Says:

    1 for 27 with runners on base.

  365. 365
    Steve Says:

    Curt – is Smoltz making a joke with thirdiary? Is he at least putting quotes around it when he says it?

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    WILL Says:

    Anybody else watching on tv notice the guy in the stands with the killer mullett? Bub is that you?

  367. 367
    Curt Says:

    Not that I can tell. When Jansen was in he was talking about wanting to see his secondary and thirdiary pitches.

  368. 368
    WILL Says:

    Glaus makes it close at 1st

  369. 369
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Anne, Alan says hi and he’ll see you Monday. I left you a pic on Twitter.

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    Bub Says:

    Ugly.

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    WILL Says:

    if we are only 2 behind in three weeks…we are lucky. i feel a wheel falling off

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    #368 made me laugh. He was low flying wasn’t he. This team sucks right now.

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    Curt Says:

    Snore

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    So bummed right now. You know what’s sad? It was a packed house and they were pumped. It was like everybody just knew one of the last three batters was gonna do something special. The team that played tonight doesn’t deserve to be in the playoffs.

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    Curt Says:

    The Braves have now lost 8 of Lowe’s last 10 starts.

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    Nate Says:

    Freeman hit a HR last night. In the 2 games of the double header he went 3-6 with a HR, 2B, 2R, 2 RBI. He’s now batting .312. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised he hasn’t been called up. It fits with the absurdity of the Braves’ organization. This is the same organization that thinks Alex Gonzalez is a better SS than Yunel Escobar… Oh wait, that was because Yunel was messing up the highly valued team chemistry of the Braves. It’s just the ultimate slap in the face to see us not hitting anything and then to see our former SS hitting around .300 since the trade and not costing his new team games with his glove (Alex Gonzalez). Well, for a team with great chemistry, these guys hit nothing and play garbage defense, but at least they all like each other.

  377. 377
    Nate Says:

    Sorry for the Esky mention, to those who hate our former SS. I wasn’t a big fan of some of his plays, but I really do think he is going to have a good career. He really impressed me with his hitting last year with runners on and with 2 outs and RISP.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Today’s lineup: Infante 4 Ankiel 8 Gonzalez 6 McCann 2 Glaus 3 Hinske 7 Conrad 5 Cabrera 9 Jurrjens 1

  379. 379
    Nate Says:

    Yuck.

  380. 380
    Nate Says:

    There are only 4 guys in our lineup hitting over .250.

  381. 381
    Nate Says:

    Literally right at the 2nd baseman. Thanks troy. Glad your make ridiculous amounts of money for your dps, pop outs, and k’s.

  382. 382
    Nate Says:

    Oh, I love some crow, boys. Thanks. I will rant about the Gonz on a regular basis if it means extra bases and RBIs.

  383. 383
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Hello offense! Where the heck were you last night?

  384. 384
    Nate Says:

    No such luck on the Glaus crow serving.

  385. 385
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Walked Mac to get to Troy. Smart.

  386. 386
    Nate Says:

    That 4-spot felt like 8 with the way the offense has been going. I hope pitching around McCann doesn’t become the norm. At least Glaus didn’t hit into a DP that time…

  387. 387
    Nate Says:

    Yeah, Mara, that was a good move by Torre. Mac would definitely have gotten that RBI.

  388. 388
    Nate Says:

    JJ just hit 96.

  389. 389
    Mara Wanna Says:

    #Braves’ Glaus made $350,000 last night — his incentive clause for reaching 450 plate appearances. He’d get another $350,000 at 500 PAs.

    Says DOB.

  390. 390
    Nate Says:

    and boom goes the dynamite

  391. 391
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Clearly I shoulda gone to Sunday’s game but Go Braves!!!

  392. 392
    Nate Says:

    I wonder if McLouth would have even attempted to throw that guy out…

  393. 393
    Steve Says:

    Nate, on Escobar and the fact he’s done much better in Toronto. Can’t you also interpret it that he quit on Atlanta and could have been doing this all along? If so, isn’t that about the worst sin you can committ against your teammates (aside from what Jason Werth’s doing, I mean)?

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    Nate Says:

    Steve, very good point on his lack of effort being a very bad thing, but I never thought he was much worse than a young Andruw. Another reason for his success in Canada would probably be that he is seeing better pitches hitting 2nd in the Jays’ lineup. Anyway, for some reason he’s playing better now. Gonzo had a heck of a game today, though. I really hope he starts to heat up. The Braves really need it.

  395. 395
    Bub Says:

    I was going to say I just woke up, but apparently I’m still asleep and dreaming…

    Steve, #394 is a very high possibility to me. Not a definite, but between “doing well on a fresh start” and “punked out to get traded,” I lean strongly toward B.

    Time will tell. If Escobar becomes permanently productive with no more “attitude slumps” (remember when Atlanta let his friend go and Esco went in the tank?), then I believe we can rule out him flopping on purpose. I’ve never, EVER seen those tendencies not repeat themselves endlessly with players that have them. If it never repeats in Toronto, I’ll have to conclude that Bobby and the gang could have done better at getting along with him.

    Great game. Nate, good to hear 96 on the radar from Jair, that’s excellent. We’ve got three pitchers hitting great strides, and two doing their jobs well enough.

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    Nate Says:

    New show tonight?

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    Bub Says:

    *Oh, I said #394, but my #’s are different from everyone else’s, cuz I have a post that was awaiting approval.

    Obviously, I mean that Yunel quitting on the team is a high possibility, etc.

  398. 398
    Curt Says:

    Vincente Padilla, not so much

  399. 399
    Steve Says:

    Nate – it’s Sunday, man! New show a comin’ around 11:30pm.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I will be L-I-V-I-D if someone going to tomorrow night’s game doesn’t take a picture of the gang to share with the rest of us.

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    Anne Says:

    I have no camera phone, so I cannot be responsible. Go Braves!!

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    Bub Says:

    “Vincente Padilla, not so much”

    How about: “Braves… yes so much” instead?

    Padilla’s ER per game in his last 10 starts before today:

    4, 0, 2, 1, 0, 0, 2, 1, 2, 4, 2

    Versus Braves: 8

    C’mon, man. Give the hitters some credit, as unlikely as that seems.

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    Bub Says:

    * unlikely that the Braves’ hitters would be responsible, Curt, not unlikely that you would credit them.

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    Bub Says:

    “I guess over the last two months I’ve come to the realization, not to sound brash or anything, that I’m more valuable than I thought I was,” said Jones, ”

    Albatross contract.

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    Curt Says:

    Bub, I was sort of messing with you knowing your deep love for all things Vincente.

    Great game today. Now we can revert back to normal and score 2 runs a game for the next 3 weeks.

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    Bub Says:

    “Now we can revert back to normal and score 2 runs a game for the next 3 weeks.”

    I guess you’re just being flip. There are no 3 week stretches in the season, not even in April, where the Braves scored 2 runs per game. I would be surprised if there were any where they scored 3 runs per game. They averaged 3.9 runs per game from opening day until they’re lowest point of the season, May 9th.

  407. 407
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Does torrential downpour give the Mets any sort of advantage?

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    Bub Says:

    In fact, what many overlook is that, while the offense obviously improved from April/early May (3.9 RPG) to the hot streak of May 10 till the break (5.0 Runs Per Game), the pitching improved almost as dramatically at the same time, dropping from 4.4 runs allowed per game down to 3.5 runs allowed per game.

    We are now in between. In the second half, still allowing only 3.5 runs per game, but now only scoring around 4.3 runs per game.

    I know that’s a garbledy post, so here are the numbers again in plain sight:

    April/ Early May: 3.9 runs scored, 4.4 runs allowed
    May 10 – break: 5.0 runs scored, 3.5 runs allowed
    Break – now: 4.3 runs scored, 3.5 runs allowed

    So, you can see, we are still playing winning baseball, scoring .8 more than we’re giving up. But we were a point and a half per game in the plus during the hot streak.

  409. 409
    Mara Wanna Says:

    TJ for Meds. Sadness.

  410. 410
    Bub Says:

    TJ for Meds is happiness, Mara. You don’t want a partially torn ligament haunting you every outing, waiting for the rubber band to pop.

    We’ll have a brand new Medlen this time next year. Teheran will also be ready then. We don’t have much breathing room between now and then, but if we can get there, we’ll be set like never before in pitching.

  411. 411
    Nate Says:

    Does anyone know what’s happening with Arodys Vizcaino? I know he had similar injury to Medlen’s, but I wasn’t sure if he was going to have the TJ surgery.

  412. 412
    Bub Says:

    Nate, last I heard was a 6 week rehab somewhere in Florida. It’s been 6 weeks since the injury – in fact, almost exactly, as I believe it was around July 1. Talking Chop hasn’t mentioned it lately – unless I missed it – and they usually keep pretty close track.

  413. 413
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Now who’s the Mary Sunshine?

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    Bub Says:

    Who, me? No, I think it’s possible they’ll go into an offensive funk. Chipper, Heyward, Prado, and (the good) Glaus, is an awful lot to go missing from this line up.

    I’m just saying it hasn’t happened yet, and 2 runs per game is an exaggeration, considering our worst offense scored twice that.

  415. 415
    Curt Says:

    Yes. Flip. Of course.

    Broader point I was trying to make was that we tend to score lots of runs in 1 game and then hibernate for a few. But hopefully May Troy will now get going and he can carry us now that the Chipster is done.

  416. 416
    Bub Says:

    Curt, not to drag this out, but most teams feel like their offense either scores a bunch or nothing. Since the Braves have averaged between 4 and 5 runs per game whether hot or cold, I’m going to assume that the zero, one, and two run games are the ones that qualify for “nothing,” and we’ll let the Braves off the hook for the “ALL” half of all-or-nothing. Mainly because I don’t want to count any more stuff.

    So, how many times have the Braves scored zero, one, or two runs? 28 times.

    Meanwhile, the Phillies, who have scored more runs than the Braves, have a whopping THIRTY SIX games in which they’ve scored zero, one, or two runs.

    (And since they’ve scored more in total, you know that means they’ve had more big-scoring games on the top end of all-or-nothing.)

    So, in any case, in whatever sense it’s true that the Braves have an all or nothing offense, it’s more true for the Phillies. Since I didn’t check any other teams, for all I know the Phillies are the worst all-or-nothing offense in the game, and the Braves are 2nd. I don’t know. But I doubt it.

  417. 417
    Bub Says:

    Okay, had to check the Yankees. Used 0, 1, 2, and 3 runs for the nothing end of their offense because they score 5 and a half runs per game. 39 times they fell to the nothing end. Lots of zeros and ones in there, too.

    So, on the skimpy end of all-or-nothing, the Braves have shot a “nothing” 28 times, the Phils 36 times, and the Yankees 39 times.

  418. 418
    Curt Says:

    See Bub, I let you do my math to make me feel better.

    I still have the faith. There’s just a finer line now.

  419. 419
    Bub Says:

    It’s a little finer for me, too, Curt.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    I really would have liked for a couple of today’s runs to cross the plate last night. Not sure what that does to your math but sure woulda been handy.

  421. 421
    Curt Says:

    You guys should get a good one tomorrow.

  422. 422
    Bub Says:

    Doesn’t do anything to the math.

    The math shows that it happens to everybody.

    Yankees scored zero today. Eight yesterday.

    LA scored 15 last Tuesday. Zero the next day.

    Phillies scored 10 on Thursday. Zero on Friday.

    And that’s just one quick scan in one month on three screens I already had up.

  423. 423
    Bub Says:

    I wish we weren’t going to get a good one, lol. Billingsley skeers me. But maybe Tommy’ll be up for the task.

  424. 424
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Um…did everyone see my comment about a picture? When I say livid I mean stark raving mad.

  425. 425
    Bub Says:

    WE’RE DISCUSSING IT RIGHT NOW ON EMAILS, MARA. Sheesh.

  426. 426
    Mara Wanna Says:

    Ok…well…just sayin. Hell hath no fury…

  427. 427
    Bub Says:

    Maybe if you were going to BE THERE, you could take the snaps. 8)

  428. 428
    Bub Says:

    Where do we stand on Joe Versus the Volcano?

    Stupid or great?

    I vote great.

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    Mara Wanna Says:

    Yeah, I know cause I took so many great pictures last time.

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