I would trade JJ for Rasmus in a New Y*rk minute. But I don’t think the Cards would do that. I believe JJ’s trade value is less than Rasmus, even though the upside for JJ is still very large. He’s a risk, his best season is tagged by doubtful peripheral stats, etc, etc. His best value might be as a pitcher for the Atlanta Braves.
I’m not surprised by McCann’s energy drink recovery. My eye problems have been 100% corrected by dietary change: sugar and caffiene. I don’t even wear my glasses to read the tiny print in Norton Anthology. And it’s been almost a year now since I made the change.
I’m 100% in favor of Prado in LF and Uggla at 2B.
The Braves did spend $$ on Wags last year.
About Chipper: I think it will be a misereable ending. Pure nightmare. Something the Braves will have to work around and endure.
I think Alex Gonzalez will have a better year than his time with the Braves last year. Not great, but 17 homers, fewer errors, and some heroics.
Nate McLouth: see my note on Chipper.
I’ll die if we get Upton.
Steve, why, oh WHY, do you have faith in Wren getting something? I think he MIGHT, but it’s a coin flip. Won’t be a bit surprised at Glaus 2.0 or even Melky. His threatening to get a big bat has been going on for how long now? And not just through offseason, but trade deadline deals as well. He’s flubbed a lot.
I’m ready to see Moylan go bye-bye. I’m not just stuck on the bad periods, but add those to his initial upside (which was nada) and you have a pretty complete picture. Lightning in a bottle’s what he was.
The defense will be bad, yes. No question about it. It’ll just have to be part of our identity. You can’t fix all that in one year. It will frustrate Lowe and Huddy. But less so because they’ll expect it going in.
Great show. Can’t wait for the Uggla show in a couple weeks… or the Pat Burrell show (puke)…
I think, too, we have underestimated the biggest blow the Braves have endured over the last little while: the Nate McLouth acquisition. That deal should have been one of the top pieces of Wren’s resume. Speed AND Power AND at center field for a decent contract. The “points swing” on Nate being bad instead of good is tremendous. It’s seriously the most miserable development of all the recent ones.
I think we owe it to ourselves to feel tragic about the McLouth trade. And I don’t think we’ve processed it yet. It really, REALLY hurt us. And I have to temper my bad mood toward Wren by remembering that if that trade had worked out, this team would be very different right now. And how could he know that a young, healthy player would immediate nose dive?
Can’t believe what just happened. I got sucked into the ABT show and comPLETELY forgot to prepare for an in-class essay we had to write today. Didn’t do a THING, was supposed to have three works reviewed, notes all handy, bring all volumes of the text, etc, etc. Could have very easily flushed a third of my grade down the toilet.
I get there and the topic is on A Streetcar Named Desire which I’ve read 3 times before this class AND written a paper on almost exactly like the one required in today’s instructions.
Talk about going from panic to euphoria in ten seconds flat.
Well gentlemen, it now comes down to where will they play: Prado, Uggla, Freeman & McLouth…
It does give us some protection, should Chipper or Freeman not be ready come Spring Training.
Also, something I don’t think you hit on in the podcast, it would allow us to get a fast, high average center fielder to slide McLouth to the bench (or off the team, if he doesn’t show improvement in ST) and give us a true “leadoff” type guy. The guy wouldn’t necessarily need to hit for power if he can hit for average, steal some bases and prevent runs with his play in CF. Hopefully, Freddie would line them up:
1) new leadoff guy CF
2) Prado LF (2B)
3) Jones 3B
4) Mac C
5)Uggla 2B (LF)
6) Heyward RF
7) Gonzalez S
9) xxxxxxxx P
His name is Daaaaaaan Ugglaaaaaaa! I’ll miss O. Infante but as long as Prado is intact I’m good. And, let’s face it…I don’t mind those baby blues one bit. Haven’t had time to listen to the show but I will soon. Did you mention my name? I’m only going to listen if you mentioned that I am the Princess of the podcast. If not? I’m out.
I’m more excited now about the Uggla trade than I was just a few hours ago. I saw a tweet earlier this afternoon when the Infante and Dunn rumors were swirling that said he was waiting for the other shoe to drop (meaning which prospect would be in there, as well). And I was concerned about that, too. To have pulled this off with none of our top prospects (or freaking ANY, for that matter) is just astounding. We really got a big bat. This is no maybe/possibly/hopefully/if kind of bat. This is the real deal. And for very, very little. Infante was a life saver for the Bravos last year and is one of my favorites, but this trade so clearly favors the Braves as not to be believed. I mean, here are Uggla’s HR/RBI stats starting with his first year in 2006 up to 2010: 27/90, 31/88, 32/92, 31/90, 33/105. And no year did he have an OBP less than .326. Just look at those numbers. That’s now in the middle of our lineup.
Steve, I have had similar feelings tonight. I went from pretty happy to absolutely pumped. I had no idea he finished this year batting .287. The guy had a great year last year, and was a leader in that clubhouse. We got a steal. He’s going to be a great presence in the lineup and the clubhouse. Now let’s just hope the HR numbers don’t drop since he no longer gets to face the Braves.
It’s pretty great. I still want one more piece. See what it will take to get BJ Upton and you have quite a team. I’m really going to miss Omar, but the Marlins really must have wanted to move him to trade him in the division for so little. Great start.
I’d love to get another outfielder too, but I don’t think that we’ll be able to move McLouth. And I’d rather have McLouth’s glove in CF and his bat hitting 8th and hope that the latter comes around — as opposed to trying to find another CF, making McLouth the 4th OF, and not resigning Hinske. I think this will be the starting 8 next year (not lineup order):
Great show guys! Steve, keep up the optimism or we’ll all dig a hole and crawl in. I’m a little less excited about Uggla after Hammy’s thoughts on Prado in the outfield. I tend to agree. If ever there was a player who would try to play through a strain or soreness it would be Meadow. I won’t be able to live if he gets damaged beyond repair. Does anyone else wonder about our medical staff? Why is it always our players playing injured and then needing surgery? Will that change with Fredi at the helm? Also, will he be less likely to play Chipper regardless of production? So many questions…but fewer “ifs” so that’s something.
Have you guys read Prado’s response to being asked to move to LF? I didn’t know it was possible, but he just continues to impress me more and more. I really hope he gets to retire a Brave someday. His character and work ethic could make him the last guy to wear number 14 for our team. So proud. Kudos to you Mr. Prado. Happy healing and offseason.
Nate – I ain’t hatin. I am worryin about my new main man, Martin. Unless we make a move for a speedy/OBS/defensive stud CF, Martin is leading off and playing LF. I know that he is more of a gamer than anyone on the team, but that is a lot of wear and tear on him. I would love to see him hit second. I have gotten to a good place with him playing LF, I just think we are not there yet.
Tony Gwynn, Jr? Reggie Willits? I don’t think we can afford BJ Upton. If Boston is balking at the price for him, there is no way we can swing it.
If McLouth begins the season at CF, I am coming to Atlanta, waking up Curt’s kids, and spanking Steve.
Hammy, I agree about Prado hitting second. I agree with everything that’s been said this week on the ABT site about us needing a leadoff hitter/speedster CF, and the cheapest option is for McLouth to be who we thought he was prior to the trade. The only problem is that he really is quite terrible at everything (throwing, hitting, pretty much any aspect of baseball), so Prado will likely get stuck leading off. BJ Upton would be an awful fit in the Braves’ clubhouse. If they didn’t like Yunel, then Upton would be an absolute nightmare for the team.
If – and it’s a big, huge, nearly impossible if – McLouth returned to quasi-all star form, this would be the best team in the National League. Just no replacing what that would do – clear up the money we would have to eat to absorb him, give us speed on the base paths, keep Prado out of the leadoff, add 20 homeruns to a team that just added 30.
My tiny piece of hope comes from the fantasy of the new hitting coach and Chipper hammering that uppercut out of him in the Spring.
You really think with McLouth having his AS level season makes this the best team in the NL? I still think the Phils might be better. Losing Werth will hurt them a lot, but they are so solid in so many places. Plus their top three. But the Braves would be very close. I think Chipper only playing 80 or 90 games would really knock us down too.
So happy to read, listen, and talk baseball again! Losing Infante stings, but I am feeling more optimistic than Steve right now. By the way, Curt, I think with a little ointment on our festering if’s, and the addition of Uggla’s right-handed bat, the Braves could be much more solid throughout than even the Phils. Whew! See what I mean?
We are definitely better than the Giants. No doubt about that. If we have a full team in the playoffs last year we beat them. We’ve gone over it a thousand times, but if you have a healthy Chipper, Wags, Prado, EOF, JJ, even a healthy Glaus. We take out the Giants and maybe the Phils too. We still have some lingering issues that if they come around – see McLouth, JJ, defense, nagging injuries to Heyward, Chipper, Prado, Freeman(?) – we are really good. We will miss Infante a lot, and I thought Dunn was really solid too, but add Uggla and his production, it solidifies the middle of the lineup, no doubt. I just want one more move, other than a retread for the bullpen. Is that too much to ask?
” The only problem is that he really is quite terrible at everything (throwing, hitting, pretty much any aspect of baseball), ”
Hilarious and depressing all at the same time. I agree wholeheartedly that if we just had a CF that could hit a little, lead-off, not completely suck and push everyone down the batting order one spot then we would be an absolute force to be reckoned with. And despite all the optimism I’m credited with, I refuse to believe Nate can be that player.
For those desperately waiting on my Harry Potter World review, it did not disappoint. The motion simulation ride at Hogwarts was absolutely terrific. Ollivander’s wand shop experience was great and the butterbeer was very, very tasty. My 3 kids ran around, wands in hand, the rest of the day. Tomorrow, Magic Kingdom!
haha…I was going to take my daughter and her friend but I’m sick in bed instead. icky, nasty, can’t move without dripping headcold. So the Rev gets to go. Such a waste…he hasn’t watched the first 6 or read one of the books. Life’s just not fair huh.
#57, don’t forget about Ms. Nettie Pot and Mr. Earl Grey. By the way, don’t hate me but I need you to re-send that link. You know how I am about “cleaning house”. And, if you’re serious about said link you’ll get on facebook. Just saying, best way to market even when it’s just for fun.
Hurt Locker was the bomb (get it?). It was so intense mostly due to almost no background music. That and Evangeline Lilly’s hair. I would do almost anything to have her “Lockes”. HA! I’m on a roll. Ok…putting down the bottle of NyQuil.
Steve, regarding the signing times of Wags and Uggs, I think the meetings are structured differently this year, something got moved in front of something else and started things going sooner…? Something? I read it and mostly forgot it. Maybe you motherbloggers know what I’m talking about.
I half hope he prices himself out and we pick up Matty D. I know it’s wrong to let your liking for a player get in the way, but dammit I don’t want the Braves to finally break through and Diaz not be there for the champagne.
From today’s motherblog (more literally, I guess, since it’s Carroll):
Jones was curious though, after playing his entire career for Bobby Cox, if spring training was going to become more boot camp-ish. And he called Fredi to ask about it. He wanted to know how much of a culture shock he and the team might be facing. And as a team leader, he wanted to know if he or his teammates needed to prepare differently for spring training.
Jones has talked with his new manager
“I think guys were scared to death that we were going to have to show up in spring training and have to run a six-minute mile or a 30-second shuttle run, things like that,” Jones said. “We’re used to playing ourselves into shape throughout the course of a six-week spring training. The new-age managers like for guys to come into camp ready to play nine innings and 162 games first day of spring training, and that’s just not the way it’s been done here.”
Jones said Gonzalez assured him he wouldn’t be turning things upside down, that he would bring his own flavor here and there but not make wholesale changes.
In the process of finding some Fredi info to make myself feel better, I found something to make myself feel worse about BOB COX.
“Gonzalez said he’ll do a few things differently than Cox. Perhaps the most noticeable change will be having the players stretch on the field before batting practice, something his predecessor never asked the Braves to do.”
Are you motherflipping kidding me???
Sigh, well, at least that does make me feel a bit better about the “wouldn’t be turning things upside down” comment.
Speaking of so-long-Bob, I read a Rob Neyer (okay, limited value) article on keeping Bobby’s name out of the running for greatest manager. I started to link it, but didn’t want to be a bubbie downer. It was just what we all knew about his loyalty to the players and some crazy post season decisions. But it was cathartic to hear a big writer say it clearly even in the wake of retirement sentimentality.
I’m just assuming, though, that this isn’t the case, since Fredi has made a point of saying that would change. If he’d never registered it as something he didn’t agree with, I can’t imagine him making the comment.