November 23, 2010

Show #132: The Braves Acquire Dan Uggla

The right handed power bat is here.  We break down the trade for Dan Uggla.

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  1. 76
    Nate Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 12:53 am

    #73, absolutely. You know the Marlins or Phils will pick him up and he will just crush us. He will figure out how to hit righties. I don’t see how he can’t be used off the bench, if not starting occasionally when need be. Prado will end up playing 3rd when Chip goes down, so we’ll need a seasoned vet to step in in RF. Not to mention the fact that CF is a HUGE question mark, so it wouldn’t hurt to have some more proven bench/OF spot starters on the team.
    I think losing him and Hinske would be bad for our field performance as well as team chemistry. How can we preach chemistry like we did during the Esco trade and then not sign BOTH Diaz and Hinske? Are we really that strapped for cash?
    Also, I would put money on Esco rebounding next year rather than McLouth. I would also put money on Esco being an All-Star and McLouth being out of a starting gig by 2012. The Escobar trade will end up being one of those trades that makes you say this guy was really traded for Alex Gonzalez and Pastornicky. Really? Still a lit upset over that one. Thought I might vent on the blog. To me, Gonzo looks a little unfocused at times, too. There’s more than a handful of games from August on that will provide valid examples of this theory.

  2. 77
    Nate Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Curt, The Road was strong to quite strong. I was blown away.

  3. 78
    Nate Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 am

    BTW, I really hope I’m wrong about #76, but does anyone other than Bub really think McLouth will rebound? I honestly believe Escobar is a very good baseball player, but there are too many question marks on what’s going on in his head for the Braves to keep him on our team. If he can figure it out he’s gonna be really good again. I just don’t get how we can preach team chemistry and not bring back both Hinske and Diaz.

  4. 79
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 10:09 am

    I’m less confident Nate will rebound than previously.

    What’s this about a Cormac McArthy novel-movie being grim? The hell you say.

    The potential for egg on the face from the Esco trade is disheartening. I just hope Gonzo can be reasonably consistent. And Esco falls down a manhole.

    (We’re living in an age where saying “manhole” carries risks previously unfelt…)

  5. 80
    Curt Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Main thing is how can we not afford both, as Nate says. Combined, you are talking $5 mill, maybe? Hinske wants 2 years which the Braves won’t do, but $5 mill? Come on.

    Bub, I know, it’s shocking. But it was really quite disturbing.

  6. 81
    Steve Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    I have ZERO confidence. Less then zero confidence that Nate rebounds. It was clearly some collective dream we all had in early September when he couldn’t make an out for that one week.

    And, I know this will be unpopular, but I can live with no Diaz. Not to say that I didn’t love him, but if we keep Hinske and turn that 2.5MM into a bench player and a bullpen arm, I’m ok with it. That said, there is no doubt he’ll be a Philly and will absolutely decimate us.

  7. 82
    Ham Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    We got Hinske. Feeling better. I too would not be devastated without Matty D.

    The Nate thing is a whole nother story.

  8. 83
    Steve Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Hinske/Mather – it’s going to rock. And I’m being serious.

  9. 84
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    My Diaz fandom had really kicked up a notch over the past months, bored and flipping through articles and interviews. I had really only been “playing at” loving Diaz before, but he became just about my favorite Braves.

    Great news on Hinske, though. I’m very excited, and I believe Mather has a lot of potential to produce, too – looking forward to seeing what he’s got.

  10. 85
    Steve Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    So, all you shameless Diaz lovers, answer this true: if you were the GM and the rule was you could only keep one of Diaz or Hinske for 2011, who would you pick?

  11. 86
    Steve Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Here’s the official Release from the Braves about non-tendering Diaz:

    Braves Non-Tender Outfielder Matt Diaz

    ATLANTA – The Atlanta Braves have declined to tender a 2011 contract offer to outfielder Matt Diaz, who is now free to negotiate with any Major League team.
    The Braves have four remaining arbitration-eligible players on their 40-man roster who are unsigned for the upcoming season – infielder Martin Prado, right-handed pitchers Jair Jurrjens and Peter Moylan and left-handed pitcher Eric O’Flaherty.

  12. 87
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    I would sign Diaz before I gave Hinske two years. But since they got Hinske for a year and an option (which few people pause to realize is actually LESS valuable to a player than a one year contract by itself), I can’t argue with the decision.

  13. 88
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    My Titter account almost gave me a heart attack. DOB’s tweet, with a comma instead of a period, would read that the Braves non-tendered Prado, Jurrjens, etc. etc.

  14. 89
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    ahem, tWitter. That was unfortunate.

  15. 90
    Steve Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Bub – #88 was great. It, in fact, made me titter.

  16. 91
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    You guys won’t believe this:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings/_/year/2010/week/13

  17. 92
    Leah Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    I am so very sad!

  18. 93
    Curt Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Am I ever right?

  19. 94
    Leah Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Not often Eeyore and thank GOD!

  20. 95
    Curt Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Thanks

  21. 96
    Nate Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    So glad we got Hinske. Has someone checked in on Anne? I hope she’s ok. Bub, #88 made my day.
    Have y’all noticed Wren is extremely high on Pastornicky(sp?)? Is there any chance he is our starting SS in 2012? I’m not so sure that one is gonna work out, but it seems like Wren got rid of Esco to get Pasto. Gonzo will surely be gone after this year. The reliever that came over in that deal is gone, so it would seem that he was the main target in that deal, kind of like Vizcaino in the Vazquez deal.

  22. 97
    Leah Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    Curt, I’m here for ya buddy.

  23. 98
    Nate Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Steve, I would take Hinske over Diaz. Both are great for what they bring to an organization, but I think Hinske is more valuable due to his ability to play 1st as well as the outfield. Hinske also brings more power off the bench, and I actually thought he did a decent job the one time he played 3rd. He’s deceptively quick for his size. Plus, if we somehow got in a brawl with another team, Hinske looks like the kind of guy you’d want on your side. Hanson does hit a lot of guys.

  24. 99
    Leah Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    I miss Matty D already. It’s way easier to be more sentimental than wise during the offseason.

  25. 100
    Bubdylan Says:
    December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Well, Leah, it’s not pure sentiment to favor Diaz. Since 2003, Diaz and Hinske have been worth almost the exact same in Wins Above Replacement to their respective teams.

    Last year, Hinske outWAR’d him 1.0 to 0.6, but the year before that, Matty was worth a smokin’ 2.6 wins above replacement, a number Hinske hasn’t come near since his ROY season in 2002.

    The point being, there’s a fairly good chance Diaz has a better year than Hinske, and a fairly decent chance the Braves made a bad choice.

    But all choices are a risk, and as Nate points out, the 1B back up part is very valuable.

    All the same, my heart is broken. Yola owes me a premium site I haven’t used yet, I may make a Diaz website. :(

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