November 23, 2010

Show #132: The Braves Acquire Dan Uggla

The right handed power bat is here.  We break down the trade for Dan Uggla.



140 Responses to “Show #132: The Braves Acquire Dan Uggla”

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  1. 101
    Leah Says:

    Yea…like I said, I think it’s a bad decision for ya know…what Bub said.

  2. 102
    Anne Says:

    When Braves general manager Frank Wren called Matt Diaz on Wednesday to inform him that it didn’t appear he would be re-signed for the 2011 season, the outfielder graciously said, “Don’t forget about me.”

    I won’t, Matty…I won’t. (I knew I jinxed him the moment I put the Diaz shirt on my back!)

  3. 103
    Steve Says:

    Anne – if that’s the case, I trust that you will go out and buy a McLouth shirt asap!

  4. 104
    Nate Says:

    #103, nice.

  5. 105
    Bubdylan Says:

    Anne, wear the Diaz shirt often. He’s as good an ex-Brave to honor as any. Maybe Wren will see it at the game and wince a little. Especially if he sees it while Matty’s crushing baseballs out of CBP. :(

    I see now that the news is pulsing through the blogosphere, Mather has a decent chance of being hated because of the loss of Diaz. People are weird.

  6. 106
    Bubdylan Says:

    Scott Linebrink? Did I just hear that record-scratching sound that in comedy movies cues the screeching halt to the happy?

    Yuck. Not excited at all about this one. Farnsworth 2.0

  7. 107
    Bubdylan Says:

    If we paid Diaz-approximately money for Scott Freaking Linebrink I am not a happy camper.

  8. 108
    Steve Says:

    Here’s the official Release from the Braves on Linebrink. The best stats, imo:

    He held opposing batters to a .203 (15-for-74) clip with runners in scoring position and posted a .083 (1-for-12) opponent’s average with the bases loaded.

    ATLANTA – The Atlanta Braves and Chicago White Sox announced today that the two clubs completed a two-player trade. The Braves have acquired right-handed relief pitcher Scott Linebrink and cash considerations from the White Sox in exchange for minor-league right-handed pitcher Kyle Cofield. Linebrink is under contract through the 2011 season.
    Linebrink, 34, went 3-2 with a 4.40 ERA in 52 games for the White Sox in 2010. He recorded 52 strikeouts in 57.1 innings and ranked third among White Sox relievers in innings pitched. He held opposing batters to a .203 (15-for-74) clip with runners in scoring position and posted a .083 (1-for-12) opponent’s average with the bases loaded.
    “Scott is a veteran pitcher who has experience in a variety of roles,” Executive Vice President and General Manager Frank Wren said. “He will play an important part in our bullpen in 2011.”
    The 2010 campaign marked the right-handed reliever’s 11th Major League season. He owns a 38-27 career record with a 3.50 ERA and 525 strikeouts in 543 appearances (six starts) and has made at least 50 appearances in each of his last eight seasons. Primarily a set-up man, Linebrink ranks second in the majors with 141 holds since the start of the 2004 season. The 6-foot-3, 220-pound Linebrink has played for the San Francisco Giants (2000), the Houston Astros (2000-2003), the San Diego Padres (2003-2007), the Milwaukee Brewers (2007), and the last three seasons with the White Sox (2008-2010). He was a second-round draft pick by the Giants in 1997.
    Cofield, 23, has a career minor league record of 25-26 with a 4.12 ERA in 118 games (82 starts), including going 1-4 with a 4.47 ERA in 20 games (12 starts) between Double-A Mississippi and Gulf Coast League (rookie) in 2010. He was drafted by the Braves in the eighth round of the 2005 June free agent draft.

  9. 109
    Bubdylan Says:

    YIKES. Braves picked up FOUR million of Linebrink’s salary. This is awful. What’s he THINKING? This is the dumbest bullpen pick up I’ve ever heard of. Good grief. It’s not like turning O’Flaherty into gold, or the Moylan signing. This guy is making FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.

    Terrible. Horrible. Nasty. Yuck. We swapped Matt Diaz for Mather for THIS? Gross.

  10. 110
    Bubdylan Says:

    I don’t even want Linbrink taking innings way from Kimbrel or Venters, much less being the veteran addition. Not unless the young guys falter. But with a guy like this, it doesn’t matter if they falter or not, Linebrink and his fat four million will get the innings.

    I hate this move. Okay, I’m done.

  11. 111
    Bubdylan Says:

    This is the celebration in Chicago at Wren’s bone-headed move.

    NOW I’m done.

  12. 112
    Bubdylan Says:

  13. 113
    Ham Says:

    Bub- We got a veteran reliever (with Chicago picking up some of his salary) and we gave up NO prospects to speak of. We needed a veteran reliever. This guy is by no means Farnsworth 2.0. Granted he might be a bit pricey, but most veteran relievers (who are good) are probably in this ballpark. I think this is a good move. He was shutdown with RISP last year, he played in a hitter-friendly park, and he would be a great mentor for Venters, Kimbrel, and others. I don’t think it is bone-headed at all.

    Just my dos pesos.

  14. 114
    Bubdylan Says:

    He gave up 24 runs in 74 AB’s with RISP last year. Only a .203 batting average, that’s nice, but it’s not screaming clutch of all clutch.

    Also, it’s a small sample size. Step back one more year and he gave up a .274 BA with RISP. Those kinds of splits across one year are pretty meaningless.

    He isn’t an awful pitcher. I’m not saying that. I’m saying that it’s an awful MOVE. Four million dollars and the winter just started, so there was plenty of time.

  15. 115
    Bubdylan Says:

    Linebrink’s Wins Above Replacement for the last 5 years:


    He has been worth a grand total two tenths of ONE win above replacement for the last five years.

    Using the 4.5 million dollars per WAR formula, that puts his worth at 4.5 X .04 (per year) = 180,000 dollars.

    We’re paying 4 million dollars for a player worth 0.18 million over each of the last five years.

  16. 116
    Steve Says:

    Bub – I agree that:

    1. The WAR data is compelling and depressing
    2. 4MM seems steep for a guy with a 4+ ERA the past two seasons
    3. This would be much more exciting if it were, say, 2003 or 2004.

    That said, in my off-season optimism mode:

    I’m willing to believe his numbers could improve by coming back to the NL and a pitcher’s park and I do see value in the veteran pitcher in the bullpen thing. But yeah, this seems like a bunch of money for a pretty middling guy.

  17. 117
    Steve Says:

    Just tweeted by DOB:

    #Braves are getting more than $2.5 mill from #White Sox to offset Linebrink’s $5.5 mill salary, not the previously reported $1.5 mill

    That’s better, too.

  18. 118
    Anonymous Says:

    I’m not happy either….way too much math.

  19. 119
    Steve Says:

    From Bowman:

    Multiple sources confirm #Braves received $3.5 million from the #White Sox. This makes the Linebrink deal look a lot better on ATL end.

    It’s a completely different deal now.

  20. 120
    Bubdylan Says:

    Getting him for 2 million wouldn’t be bad. I would definitely back away from the cliff.

  21. 121
    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, I have been informed that using WAR for relievers is not a great idea. In this case, the outcome was so extreme that it still made a real case, but not as shattering a case as it would have been against a hitter.

    Add to that the new salary numbers and I am calm enough.

  22. 122
    Steve Says:

    Bub – I’m glad to hear you’re backing away from the cliff.

    New show tomorrow night. Interviewing the Marlins beat writer from the Miami Herald. Talking Fredi and Uggla.

  23. 123
    Leah Says:

    It’s a big day people!

  24. 124
    Leah Says:

    Looks like we missed our shot at Adrian Gonzalez. Shucky darn…I really had my heart set on that one.

  25. 125
    Steve Says:

    Leah – why is it a big day? Because we just got our Christmas tree?

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