April 10, 2011

Show #142: The Braves Offense Goes Missing

Discussing the bats and relief pitching.  Assessing Freeman and McLouth at the plate.  And best and worst signs of the week.



173 Responses to “Show #142: The Braves Offense Goes Missing”

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  1. 1
    Walker Says:

    Great show

    1. No we should give Sherrill some more chances and maybe utilize him correctly only against lefties. In Fredi’s defense he first brought in Sherrill against a lefty but Manuel countered with a righty. He didn’t want to waste Sherrill. But that should have been his only batter.

    2.Martinez actually gave up his first 2 runs of the season today. In his 3 appearances his first 2 went scoreless. I personally would like to see him in more pressurized situations to see what he’s made of.

    3. Not too worried about the offense right now. It should get better. I will give us until early May before I truly panic. However a lineup change is in order NOW.

    Chipper- OMG 4th? I thought the world wasn’t going to end until next year.

  2. 2
    Runnin Says:

    Cut Freeman some slack! He’s a 21 year old rookie in his first weeks in the majors. Of course he’s going to have some bad numbers and plenty of ABs where he looks over-matched. He’s doing exactly what you expect a young player to do, getting off to a slow start and starting to press a little. It’s not a shock or a worry in any way. Besides that, it’s only been 2 weeks.

    Once the initial sting of big league pitching has worn off he’ll settle down and start doing what he’s always done, hit for a pretty good average and some power.

    FWIW, and maybe not much, I think his swing got out of whack about 2 weeks before the end of ST when he went through a 2 or 3 game period where he was clearly trying to hit a HR. Each time he got under the ball and appeared frustrated with the pop up. After that he didn’t look anything like he did the first few weeks of ST. But maybe he’s already starting to come back to himself with his meager 4 game hitting streak. But even if he’s not, give him a break. He’s a rookie and going to struggle. He’s not our problem right now. And by the way, he’s playing very solid defense.

  3. 3
    Pure Says:

    On Sherrill: My gut reaction is to show him the door. But then I convinced myself that its still too early in the season to be making rash decisions. Also, I recently learned that Sherrill toughed it out for 5 years in the independent leagues before he got his break:


    “You’ve got to love baseball to play in the Northern League. In 2001 meal money was $15 a day and usually two of your three daily meals were PB&J at the ballpark. Often times an 1-for-24 week at the plate and you’re released. Blow two saves in a row and you’re demoted to mop-up relief. Have another bad outing and you’re gone. In the Northern League the lighting is poor, the bats are second-rate and you have to buy your own cleats.”

    But Sherrill played on. And on and on. In fact Sherrill eventually played 5 years of independent unaffiliated baseball before the Seattle Mariners offered him a contract in 2003 to join their Double-A in San Antonio. He would make it to the Mariners in 2004 and earned a big league spot for good in 2005.”

    Surely after reading that story we can all find it in our hearts to give George another chance. 🙂

  4. 4
    Anonymous Says:

    oh for the love…Eeyore needs a nap. MLB rookie trying to be aggressive+ batting 8th = Freddie Freeman. He’ll figure it out. Prado went 3 for 5 on Friday and had a hit Saturday and Sunday. I know we aren’t where we want to be and if we go 2 and 4 this week I will be happy to sing doom and gloom along with you. Can we not forget that this is the same team that knocked Cliff Lee out in the 5th? They have it in them. I don’t know about 5 and 1 but I definitely believe 4 and 2 for the week.

    I don’t know about Sherrill. If Fredi will ONLY let him face lefties then sure…let’s keep him. I have zero confidence in Linebrink.

    The Avett Brothers? Never heard of them.

  5. 5
    Leah Says:

    The last statement of the previous comment would have been way funnier had I remembered to post my name.

  6. 6
    Curt Says:

    People, get a grip. These guys need to be producing for us to win. That’s the point we made on the show. Did I say to send Freeman to AAA? No. I didn’t even suggest he should be benched. Obviously we are working from a small sample set. But it is 10 games. I guess we can have a show where we hold all our opinions until we have played what, 30 games? 45 games? Or should we just pile on McLouth every week?

    This was a big test this past week and the Braves fell on their faces. The runs against Lee are the anomaly, not the standard at this point. Do I believe the offense will get better? Yes. Am I allowed to be nervous about some of the guys on the team? Yes.

    Great story about Sherrill, but it doesn’t mean he should stay on a major league roster because he is persistent. Here’s hoping he straightens out and Fredi uses him the right way going forward.

    You guys need to toughen up.

    Menat to mention it on the show, but forget with all my Freeman hating. Props to Manny Ramirez for not only going out as a cheater, but a quitter to boot.

  7. 7
    DAP Says:

    i dont know if ive ever heard anyone breathe louder than curt.

  8. 8
    Eric Says:

    Doesn’t Sherrill duplicate what we already have on O’Flaherety? Not sure why we even have Sherrill. Everyone who watched any spring ball saw this coming with Sherrill and Linebrink.

    My biggest gripe, though, is the amount of double plays the Braves hit into. At least twice a game, it seems like, we’ll have a runner on first. Regardless of who’s up, they’ll hit it right at the second baseman. Drives me crazy.

  9. 9
    Leah Says:

    ” Did I say to send Freeman to AAA? No. I didn’t even suggest he should be benched. “. Point taken. I just don’t know that we can expect more from him at this point. And he wasn’t the only one swinging at the first pitch every at bat. After an especially anemic week offensively it makes me feel better when I can make sense of some players’ struggles. It makes me nervous when you sound hopeless. It’s a compliment.

    I’ll put my armor on before listening to next week’s show. 🙂

  10. 10
    DAP Says:

    I know y’all don’t want to acknowledge small sample sizes, because you risk having nothing to talk about, but we are in a part of the season where everything can change on a dime, and I think its important to remember that.

    For instance, McLouth is batting .229 now, but give him a 2-4 on Tuesday night, and his average is up 27 points to .256. Back to normal in one game. See what I’m saying?

  11. 11
    Curt Says:

    I have faith in him, he just is lurching right now. I read an article about all the guys struggling to start the season, and he finds himself in some good company with the Jeter’s, Pujols’ and Wells’ of the world.

    Should we expect Kimbrel to be getting shelled? Did we expect more from Heyward last year? I don’t know. I’m too busy breathing heavy over here. The good news DAP, is that whenever you hear me exhale, you know something awesome is coming…….

  12. 12
    Curt Says:

    I see perfectly. We just go with what we saw over the week. Here’s pulling for that 2-4 from the whole team.

  13. 13
    Leah Says:


  14. 14
    DAP Says:

    “The good news DAP, is that whenever you hear me exhale, you know something awesome is coming…….” Curt, that is true. It tells me to get ready for some awesomeness.

  15. 15
    Kate Says:

    Since it’s “too early” to have opinions about anything related to baseball, I look forward to the all movie reviews podcast next week.

  16. 16
    Curt Says:

    Kate, you want to see some hate mail.

    DAP, now that my breathing is in my head, I imagine I won’t breathe at all on Sundays show.

  17. 17
    Walker Says:

    @ Curt

    Manny made the right decision to retire. He’s made millions of dollars. Why would he wait 100 games to come back. First off Tb wouldn’t want him back because they are going to suck this year and was Probaly going to use him as trade deadline bait anyway.

    It’s funny how these MLB commentators on tv are saying things about Manny they wouldn’t say to his face.

  18. 18
    Curt Says:

    I didn’t expect a defense of Manny. My advice would have been to have not cheated in the first place. But very fitting for his kind of mailed in career, outside of the offense.

  19. 19
    Leah Says:

    I think Manny’s decision was as wise as any decision he has made. Curt, were we hating? I didn’t feel like I was hating. I can’t wait to see how you pull off not breathing next week. That wil be interesting.

  20. 20
    Eric Says:

    I’ll be interested to see how Cooperstown judges Manny’s career. Key part of iconic teams, bizarre behavior, great offensive numbers, terrible defensive highlights, and the awful stench of steroids.

    Really was the perfect way for him to go out.

  21. 21
    BRAVEinNY (Matt) Says:

    0% chance Manny gets in HOF…

  22. 22
    Curt Says:

    Leah, no. But nothing brings out the vitriol like our movie reviews.

  23. 23
    Leah Says:

    Good. To. Know. I’ll make sure and send mine in next time.

  24. 24
    Walker Says:

    If I had a vote I would vote for

    A Rod

    These guys are just too good to be left out. They were great without steroids.

    I would not vote for


    These guys aren’t HOFers without steroids.

    I also am not naive to think Bagwell, Thomas, Kent, Thome were all squeaky clean. There are plenty of layers out there who are glad they haven’t been caught.

  25. 25
    Steve Says:

    I totally agree with Matt. There is 0% chance that Manny makes it in the HOF. I’m telling you – zero. He’s had (three?) confirmed drug test failures. There is no chance that he makes it in.

    And, while I agree that retiring was pretty much his best and only option, he should have had a press conference. It makes his cowardly and shameful cheating even more cowardly and shameful by just slinking off into the sunset like he did.

    And Leah, regarding your #13 about “whenever you hear me exhale, you know something awesome is coming” I’m with you. I could have gone my whole life and been happy not to read that phrase from Curt.

    One last thing. I’m off to Minnesota for work tomorrow and an going to Target Field tomorrow night to see the Twins/Royals. A new ballpark, PLUS Frenchy. I’m very stoked.

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