June 13, 2011

Show #151: The Braves Rattle Off 6 Straight

A 6 -0 week. Chipper and Heyward. Schafer or McLouth? Uggla gets some hits.



103 Responses to “Show #151: The Braves Rattle Off 6 Straight”

  1. 1
    Nate Says:

    Good show, guys. We need J-Hey back. Especially if Freddie is hurt.

  2. 2
    DAP Says:

    hey guys, nice show. i agree with you guys on chipper. he was the right guy to deliver the message, and he did it in the right way. he complimented heyward, he didnt slam him.

    im surprised there isnt a bit more optimism though. 10 games over .500 with the entire starting OF on the DL, plus the other lineup issues that havent gone our way…that impressive. you mentioned the phillies were playing well…but they are playing the cubs, who are just as bad as the astros!!!

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Chipper was angry that ESPN (I think) added a headline to his comments of “Chipper calls out Heyward”. He said that was not the tone of his comments. He was just making statements about how much the team needed Heyward.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Tell the “Heyward Hater” that Jason has not just “played in spurts”. The season is only six months long (seven if you count the seven games in Oct.). Jason basically lost June to injury.

    Apr 75/.240/.360/.520/.880/6/19/10/13
    May 86/.337/.453/.628/1.081/4/19/19/16

    Jun 94/.181/.287/.245/.532/1/7/12/13

    Jul 59/.356/.457/.458/.915/0/5/12/9
    Aug 97/.299/.400/.536/.936/5/14/16
    Sep 97/.278/.421/.381/.802/2/7/8/22
    Oct 12/.25/.357/.417/.774/0/1/2/2/2

    IMHO, that looks like pretty good stats before and after June… especially for a rookie.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Changed my long term confidence

    Fair, but right on the chalk

    If this translates to “we play well against teams we SHOULD beat instead of playing down to them”, then fair. As to how we WILL play for the rest of the year in general, “fowl-ish”… :)

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Should McLouth replace Schafer in C


    However, McLouth should replace Henske so he can go back to the bench. Henske was exposed to the league as being vunerable to a good breaking ball pitcher… not something you want opponets to know about your best hitter. With the pitching staff we have, defense is much more important than what we are getting in offense between Henske and McLouth. Maybe putting Nate back in the 8th hole ahead of Schafer/Uggla/Chipper/McCann, etc. will get us some runs later in games and allow the pitcher to bunt more…

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    DAP Says:

    yeah, bad news about prado being DLed, but good news is that schafer will still have some time to continue getting starts in the OF, even when mclouth comes back. until mclouth, heyward, and prado are all healthy and back, i think schafer should get regular playing time to give him a chance to see what he’s got.

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    Leah Says:

    Great show! The Chipper comments about Heyward were blown way outta proportion. Heyward is mature enough to realize that. I think Uggla’s back! Of course I thought he’d return in FL and I was way wrong. Jim Powell was saying Freeman could have ripped the callus off the base of his hand where the bat rubs it. I guess sometimes a blood blister can developed. All hear say folks…go Braves!

  9. 9
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    15 teams per league


    I HATE the inequities of interleague play. If it is a balanced schedule, I would be ok with it.

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    Eric Says:

    I like the spark Shafer’s been providing at the top of the line-up. I don’t think it’s reflected in his numbers, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if McLouth is the 4th outfielder when the Braves are at full strength.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    6 Sorry that should have ready “best pinch hitter”…

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    OBTW – Uggla had hit second in the first game of the Angles series (May 20)…

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    Steve Says:

    Heyward starting for Gwinnett tonight.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Looking at Uggla’s performance in Florida, I bet he was pressing there… *you always want to do well against your old team, especially when they decided not to keep you. That on top of his “struggles” probably didn’t bode well for him. Maybe after that, when he got to Houston, him relaxing a little combined with getting better pitches to hit with Chipper and McCann hitting behind him translated into a better performance.

    Just a thought…

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Freddie looks like he has gotten himself uncomfortable at the plate again… (dang that massive home run shot)

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    Steve Says:

    All these runners left on base feels like the start of one of “those” games.

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    Steve Says:

    M in M, #4: I can’t argue with the numbers you’ve posted. The only point I was making (just speaking for me here) is that Heyward was putting up some of the best numbers in baseball at the start of the year in 2010 and then the thumb injury came and he fell off – compared to the unbelievable start. It was not a criticism. Just stating that we got robbed of the “true” Heyward b/c of the injuries. And, despite his good numbers overall, there were weeks that he’d just disappear (again, presumably, because of his injuries).

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    17 I understand that. He definitely ‘disappeared’ with the injury, but it looks to me like he played a little better after the injury (instead of disappearing for two years like Schafer…).

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Steve – Can “HH” become Curt’s new nickname? ;)

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Well, if they come back in this one, I guess I will just miss it. I have had about all of this one I want to endure.

    “Tough to sweep a four game series…”

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    It’s Monday. Last week was a good week now it’s time for a bad week. That’s the way the Braves seem to roll.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Nothing like batting around in an inning…

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    Danny Says:

    Alright, I am now more open to trading Lowe! I must admit, however, that I am now sceptical of anyone’s great numbers continuing after coming to the Braves. I would trade Lowe for another Hinske and another Moylan. Also I now must recall my blind support for Kimbrel. If Venters had 22 straight saves, that would be pretty cool.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Well, at least Schafer took away the shut out and gave the Braves even more reason to keep him over McLouth with those three ribs.

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    Steve Says:

    #24 – And it was just a nice, smooth swing that knocked the ball out of the park. I say that hoping that it doesn’t get him all home run hungry again.

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    Kate Says:

    I just purchased tickets for a couple of games this season. It will be my first trip to Turner Field.

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    Anonymous Says:

    #25 – You know, I got the same impression with that swing. Now, hopefully he won’t go up there looking to knock it out of the park like Freddi seems to be doing. Gotta keep it simple up there.

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    Steve Says:

    #26 – Kate, that’s cool. What city are you in, if I may ask?

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    Kate Says:


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    Nate Says:

    Freeman day to day with an oblique injury. I hate the oblique.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Oh, is this the part where we go back to .500?

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    Anne Says:

    Meanwhile in OTHER crap news…Phils up 5-1 over the Fish at the moment…

  33. 33
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Well, our franchise over .500 certainly didn’t last long… one game over, now one game under?

  34. 34
    Vinnie Says:

    The rest of this week is HUGE. This could be where the Braves keep pace or really, really slip back. If they don’t take the next two from the Mets…I see a possible 1-6 or 2-5 week. Not good. And I completely agree with Nate. Can somebody PLEASE get the Braves working on getting their obliques in shape? Good Gravy.

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    Eric Says:

    Last year, a win cost the Braves $1.7+ mil, 8th best in baseball:


    Also buried in that long, dense article was a link to another piece arguing that set-up men are more valuable than closers. Anyone rather see Venters keep working 7th or 8th inning instead of the 9th?


  36. 36
    Anne Says:

    Heyward back in the line-up. Go Braves!

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    Nate Says:

    Heyward batting 7th?

  38. 38
    James Says:

    Off topic, but have any of you guys bought tickets from http://www.upfrontfan.com . The game on the 16th. let me know

  39. 39
    Leah Says:

    Are we going to have baseball tonight? I’ve been meaning to mention, “Downcast” is a great app to help manage podcasts. It automatically downloads new ones from iTunes and has lots of scrubbing features.

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    Walker Says:

    Terry Collins is a jerk. I officially don’t like him. Hell be fired in two years for being what he’s been all along. A mediocre manager. Here’s what he said about the wet field yesterday.

    “You alter the field according to your team,” Collins told reporters. “These [Braves] guys do not steal bases…[Jordan] Schafer is about the only guy. They’re a fly-ball hitting team. They’re not a groundball hitting team. So the field was overly wet. I don’t know what to say, except I’d like to move the fences back when we play against [Florida slugger Mike] Stanton, but we can’t.”

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    Adam Says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Reyes also slip the inning after the drying agent was put onto the field?

    Also Schafer had like 4 more stolen bases than Reyes over the last 8 games.

  42. 42
    Anne Says:

    Warning: Anne and Leah at the same ballgame on Friday. Wear your batting helmets! Go Braves!!

  43. 43
    Leah Says:

    Go Braves indeed. Have to say, the way this game was shaping up I’m not too sad about the rain delay. Bring on the bullpen.

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    Curt Says:

    If Terry Collins is shocked that a team alters their field to suit their play, he’s a dolt. So do the Mets. You cut the grass a certain way, you water it a certain way, you have the AC blow out when Kirby Puckett is up to hit a game winning homer in game 6 of the F-ing World Series. It’s called homefield advantage, jerk off. And guess what, you won the game despite all of that. Shut up.

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    ham Says:

    But seriously, Curt. How do you really feel?

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    Leah Says:

    Yeah…you tell ‘em. This good week/bad week has gotten in the Braves heads. Oh, and my co-worker who is the die hard Phillies fan is in town this week. Awesome.

  47. 47
    Curt Says:

    Ham, why don’t you go celebrate another Boston championship, you turncoat.

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    Anne Says:

    I hate it when Dad and Dad fight!

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    Pure Says:

    I don’t look at the Division standings anymore. Too depressing. I’ll just stick to looking at the Wildcard until we get back on track.

  50. 50
    ham Says:

    If you can’t win with the ones you love, …

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    Leah Says:

    Anne, that made me laugh.

  52. 52
    Nate Says:

    Gift run. not good with our offense.

  53. 53
    Steve Says:

    C’mon on Bravos, let’s salvage this last game. I’ve got to tell you, it was lain gruesome at the ballpark Wednesday night. The Braves looked awful. The at-bats were a joke. I know you can’t get too overly high or low game to game but…. Last night was really tough.

    Hopefully the Hanson news is not too bad. Looking forward to Delgado.

  54. 54
    Leah Says:

    Cannot watch another loss to the Mets. Sad we won’t see Hanson tomorrow night.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Gees, Minor just isn’t ready. He simply cannot spot the ball. I think I’m going to flip channels and watch Bradon Beachy deal — GWT is beating the Durham Bulls and he’s pitching a gem.

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    Leah Says:

    Brooks is the bomb off the bench!

  57. 57
    ham Says:

    Wha . . . .?

    I’ll take it.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Did Diory get him to flinch?

  59. 59
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    I missed the base hit that Freddie had. Has he finally gotten over that long homerun? He looks like he is trying to repeat it every at bat on low pitches… “golf another one…”

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    57 Guess not…

  61. 61
    Leah Says:

    Gotta love J-Hey’s emotion right there. Go Braves!

  62. 62
    Adam Says:

    A balk-off!

  63. 63
    Steve Says:

    LOVE “balk-off”

    However we can get wins, we’ll take them. It was not a pretty game and there was much to wring hands about, but they didn’t give up and that’s a big deal.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Great, now Chipper might be going down just as his dad gave him some advice that seemed to have helped him in the past week.

    Me thinks this Texas series is going to be miserable but hopefully tonight is a sign of a momentum shift back to good baseball. When the Phillies get hot (they’ve won 7 in a row now) they usually stay hot. At least we’re one game up on the Red Birds in the Wildcard.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Ah oh: Texas RHP Colby Lewis is 0-2 sporting a 28.93 ERA.

    I sure hope this doesn’t mean that the MLB Network is going to have the Live Lookin going with the “Developing Story” graphic around the 5th inning tomorrow night reporting on Lewis pitcing a no hitter or a perfect game.

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    Danny Says:

    I don’t think Uggla is back.

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    Steve Says:

    #65 – could not agree more

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    Nate Says:

    Uh-oh, Tommy…

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    Curt Says:

    Instead of bringing up Delgado, do you not just start Martinez? Seems odd to me.

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    Anne Says:

    If I’m to believe the tabloids…it’s Hamilton’s birthday. Happy Birthday, sir!!

  71. 71
    Nate Says:

    #68, Maybe they’re showing him off for a suitor…

    Happy B-day, Ham

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Nate has it right at #68, without a doubt. If Delgado comes in and somehow pulls off a 1 or 2 run outing, it’s a gamble that will pay in something along the lines of Hunter Pence. Mark it down.

    Happy Birthday, Hammy.

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    Anne Says:

    Rain delay possibility…really? I’ve had the crappiest luck on days I’ve got tickets this season…

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    Leah Says:

    Happy birthday Ham!

    The Rev has been prepping me for the disappointment of a loss. Something about the experience is as important as a victory. He hates it when I cuss in front of the kids.

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    Anonymous Says:

    I hope the Braves are patient and evaluate or pitchers carefully. I would hate for us to look back 5 years from now and see that we traded the wrong people and kept the wrong people. Pence isn’t that good to be trading the whole farm away. Maybe Kemp is though.
    Hanson – Unorthodox delivery. Certain arm trouble
    JJ- Boras client will be leaving in a couple years.
    Medlen- Probably more of a bullpen guy.
    Lowe- 37 and declining
    Hudson- 35 and declining
    Beachy, Minor, Delgado, Tehran- unproven

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    Anne Says:

    Did I just hear Chuck Dowdle correctly…the last Mets “balk-off” pitcher was…Roger MacDowell?? Tee hee.

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    Danny Says:

    Happy b-day Hot Ham

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    I wonder if Chipper will use his bully pulpit to call out Heyward for not running out that ball tonight that might have plated another run? Probably not because afterall 80% of Heyward [which is exactly what he gave jogging down to first] is…

    At least Brian Jordan did: That’s something you learn in the Minor Leagues.

    That pisses me off to no end and that’s not Braves baseball — I hope Fredi said something to him after he got back to the dugout or at least stared him down.

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    Steve Says:

    #74 “Medlen- Probably more of a bullpen guy.” Why? I totally disagree. His numbers were not mind-blowing last year, but watching him game to game I absolutely want him on the starting staff next year.

    I’m officially losing faith again about the offense. I know Chipper’s out and Prado’s out, but I’ve been worn down by this week.

    I thought Delgado looked pretty damn good tonight. Better than Teheran at this point.

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    Paul Says:

    #77 – I was impressed with both Jordan and Simpson for not pulling punches about Heyward not busting it up the line. A very honest moment about Heyward who is usually treated with kid gloves.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Yeah, I’ll tell ya something about Brian Jordan — say what you will about his lacking verbal skills but I love listening to him, especailly when he’s behind the mic at the GWT games where he really lays it out for folks to think about. He really tells it like it is.

    When BJ called out Chipper last year, the man was probably right. Jordan was an NHL football player and knows a thing or two about conditioning, playing hurt, being injured, and knowing the difference of each. So I really think BJ knew what he was talking about last year — even though he had to call Chipper up and smooth things over a bit.

  82. 82
    Jo-Bu Says:

    Oops, have hockey on the brain tonight — Brian Jordan was of course in the NFL not the NHL. :)

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “When BJ called out Chipper last year, the man was probably right. ”

    I agree with this all the way.

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    Leah Says:

    I didn’t really expect them to win but it was sad anyway. I missed Anne…also sad ( stupid smart phone blockers). Hamilton’s on my fantasy team so they obviously had a pretty good night. Final thought: Matthew Kaminski has become one of my favorite parts of The Ted.

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    Curt Says:

    Amazing how our wins seem to come in the tooth and nail, have the chips fall our way, type of fashion, while the losses are just ass kickings. Not a trend I am fond of. And way to totally give back the 6-1 week.

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    Curt Says:

    This quote from Fredi about Heyward does not fill me with confidence that he had to hear about it in the manner he perhaps should have:

    “It’s one of those things. You live and learn.”

    And reports about the demise of Uggla have been officially confirmed.

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    Leah Says:

    And another thing…we have the 3rd best record in baseball. One of the most important rally killers last night was the #1 espn play of the day.
    Just licking my wounds.

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    Nate Says:

    Out of Meds, Beachy, Minor, Teheran, and Delgado, I think Meds and Beachy are obviously best suited for the rotation next year. Julio and Randall look like they could use some more seasoning. Minor has impressed me the least. Steve’s right about Meds last year. The Braves were 13-1 when he started. That’s insane. He’s the anti-KK.

    If you trade Lowe the rotation goes from a huge strength to a huge question mark, imo. It sounds to me like Meds is best suited for the pen this year because it will be easier for him to come back quicker. I’m all for him in the rotation next year.

    P.S. never even mentioned Vizcaino. Our pitching depth is stupid.

  89. 89
    Steve Says:

    Chris Dimino had a tweet this morning that summed up how I’m feeling right now: seems like we went from 2.5 to 6 games back overnight.

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    Danny Says:

    Off topic, but everyone should see this music video:


    Happy Father’s Day Weekend to all!

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    Leah Says:

    Bad to worse.

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    Adam Says:

    We look like crap right now.

  93. 93
    Steve Says:

    #91 – Big yes. 4 hits today. And Matt Hairston is no great pitcher.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I’m about to watch Bruce Lee’s “Enter the Dragon” for the first time ever.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Anybody following this Rory story? Heh, Rory Story. I wonder if ESPN will dare use “Rory Glory Story” if he wins big…

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    Danny Says:

    #93 -Nice! “Return of the Dragon” is even better (Bruce Lee vs. Chuck Norris = Epic)

  97. 97
    Danny Says:

    Time for JJ to turn this slump around. Its time for a new week isn’t it?

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    Leah Says:

    Steve…new show tonight? :)

  99. 99
    Leah Says:

    Oh…happy Father’s Day to the dads.

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    Steve Says:

    Thanks, Leah. And Happy Father’s Day to the Rev.

    A win! I really forgot what it felt like.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Well, the pattern has been, Losing the series but winning the last game of said series is a start to a good week. Good week/bad week pattern.

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    Steve Says:

    Jo-Bu: I hope you’re right. I haven’t looked this up but I don’t think the Braves have been swept this year. So, there’s that.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    You are correct, Steve. In fact, the point was made in today’s broadcast that the Braves an the Phillies are the only two teams left that haven’t been swept this season. I don’t remember if they said that it is MLB-wide or just in the Senior Circuit.

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