Show #152: The Braves Stumble At Home
Can the team be better? Heyward’s star. The starting rotation. And batting the pitcher 8th.
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June 24th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
June 24th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I just stuck my hand in a wood chipper for posting that. Apologies to all civilized people everywhere
June 24th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Gonzalez is our SS for the rest of the year. Why in the world would the white sox trade Ramirez? Let’s talk about SS in the off season. We need to concentrate on getting Pence or Kemp(dreaming).
June 24th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
How about Minor or Beachy, McLouth, Schafer and Delgado to Houston for Pence(LF – 4 or 5) and Bourn(CF – leadoff)?
Pence/Bourn (.321/.361/9HR/51RBI/4SB/0CS, .284/.353/1HR/25RBI/32SB/3CS – P 100%, B 91.4%, total SB 36) is definitely an upgrade vs McLouth/Schafer (.233/.328/3HR/11RBI/2SB/2CS, .231/.310/1HR/4RBI/8SB/4CS – SB%: M 50%, S 67%, total SB 10).
Swap Bourn for Schafer in leadoff (better BA, still has speed and proven base stealing experience at ML level). Slide Pence into 4/5 depending on RH/LH pitcher so he and McCann can protect each other (and have someone to clean-up when McCann sits) – leaves Heywood at 2, Chipper at 3, moves Freddie back to 6, Uggla 7 and Gonzo 8.
So far, we have no information that Prado will be back wiith the team this season. We all assume he will, but after this long, how much damage has the infection done to his calf and how much “damage” to his stamina has been done by the layoff? It isn’t like he has been able to work out during this time…
I think I read some where he was laid up in bed, leg elevated, for days while he was getting initial antibotics/treatment for the infection.
Still need Prado to spell Chipper/Uggla and to “take over” at 3rd eventually.
June 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
@ mark I like that trade
So what happens when we have Pence, Bourne,Prado,and Heyward for only 3 outfield spots?
June 24th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
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Well, I definitely don’t see that being a problem before the All Star break. I think it will be much longer than that.
When Prado is cleared to begin working out, I figure it will be at least two weeks (minimum) before he is ready for “anything baseball”. It isn’t like he has been rehabing an injury (i.e. working out), he has had to be “off it” completely – basically, just short of “bed ridden”.
When he is ready to get back, the questions will be:
- How long will it be to get himself back to hitting, etc. in the minors before rejoining the team?
- How long after joining the team will he be in starting shape? (i.e. would the Braves keep him in the minors till he was ready to start or would they want him to come off the bench and spot starting till he is ready to play everyday?)
- Will he be ready to start everyday again this season?
So, to answer your question: So what happens when we have Pence, Bourne,Prado,and Heyward for only 3 outfield spots?
I think they put Prado at third (next season).
June 24th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Or, perhaps, through the “dog days of summer” in Atlanta, Prado subs for Chipper, then Gonzo, then Uggla , then Freddie, then Pence, then Bourn, then Heyward, mix in a few days where he comes off the bench and everyone gets regular play with regular rest down the strech.
Still, the entire question is predicated upon Prado being able to recover enough to rejoin the team this season as an “everyday player”. If he is only able to rejoin as a bench player, the point is moot.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Early in the year, I heard from several “analysts” that they thought that the Braves should have kept Minor instead of Beachy on the club out of spring training. They usually referred to Minor as having more “upside”.
Is this opinion a “draft” thing, since Minor was a first round draft pick and Beachy was undrafted (all speculation – I know this happens in the NFL… drafted vs undrafted impacts contracts their whole career most of the time)? Or was it something in their delivery, command, “stuff”, “make-up”, etc.?
Do you (whom ever would like to comment) think Minor has more ‘upside’ than Beachy?
If you HAD to include one of them in a trade, which one?
June 24th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
I will not HEAR of Prado not coming back this season. Don’t forget he’s the hardest working player in the game. I belieeeeeeeve!
June 24th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
@Mark
That is such a hard question, I’m just glad I’m not deciding and Wren and company is. To me even though Beachy is pitching better now, I’m afraid Minor will have a better future. I really don’t know. They are equal to me right now.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Minor wears his hat stupidly. Keep Beachy if you must choose.
June 24th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
I lean toward keeping Beachy as well. As goofy as this sounds, aside from the results this season, I just like something about the look in his eye vs. Minor. He just looks like a winner to me.
And sure, I want Hunter Pence. And I think he’s the kind of piece you give up a prized pitching prospect for. He’s making 7M this year, is Arb eligible in 2012 and a free agent in 2014.
June 24th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
137 was me
June 25th, 2011 at 12:20 am
First game of the road trip played out differently in my head.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Ruh-oh
June 25th, 2011 at 12:31 am
If Fredi wants to do something to help the team I wish he would figure out something to keep us from always losing the first game of a westward road trip…
June 25th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Didn’t anyone bother to tell the Braves our “bad week” wasn’t supposed to start until after Sunday?
June 25th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Any teachers out there…is it possible to have a student who gets either all A’s or all F’s and nothing inbetween? I’m thinking of any analogy I can to explain this confounding team.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Science is just not the Braves subject.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:24 am
The Boys ALWAYS lose the first game of a west trip. Always.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:04 am
True. Fredi learned from the master
June 25th, 2011 at 10:38 am
That rule shouldn’t apply when we had an off day before game 1, but it does.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Didn’t they fly out the day before and spend the off day in SD?
June 25th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Sheffield and Klesko is the answer to the trivia…
June 26th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Did Fredi get ejected? Linebrink pitched the ninth…