Show #153: The Braves Bounce Back with 4 Win Week

June 26, 2011

Show #153: The Braves Bounce Back with 4 Win Week

The week in review. What and who to target in the trade deadline. And Best/Worst signs of the week.

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335 Responses to “Show #153: The Braves Bounce Back with 4 Win Week”

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Anonymous Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 12:21 am
Great Podcast

I do have to say that with this team’s horrible offensive struggles this year, I find it funny how people were calling for Terry Pendletons head all those years. Be careful what you wish for. During the Braves historic run these last 20 years he was the hitting coach for their best offensive year in 2003. Its almost disrespectful how he was called a bad hitting coach. Besides Don Baylor, I would actually say he was the 2nd best hitting coach during this run. He had many great years. Overall, the Braves offense last year showed way more patience. We were so excited for Larry Parrish but now we got we wished for because he obviously has made no impact. Im sure he’s a great guy and he doesn’t he’s not fully responsible but something is off with this team offensively.
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Walker Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 12:22 am
sorry that was my comment
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Steve Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Re #1 – A couple of days ago, Fredi G felt compelled to say that there’s been no team mandate to be more aggressive at the plate (in defense of Parrish, for sure). And I’ll take him at his word, but day to day doesn’t support that.
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Curt Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
He also said no coaching changes were coming.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Fair or Foul

The Braves must make a move at the trade deadline to have success in the postseason.

Foul-ish

The word ‘must’ is what bothers me in this.

If you consider the “return of Prado” as an aqusition, if you consider the “return of Medlin” an aquisition, if indeed you consider “Uggla hits .260 with 15HR the rest of the way” an aquisition, then perhaps the Braves may get what they need to “wake up” the offense w/o a trade.

If you are limiting the posiblities to an offensive upgrade in CF or at SS, then, without the benefit of trade, we have a player at Gwinnett. Jose Constanza is playing CF, hitting .339/.386/.392/.778 w/ 18SB in 62 games.

However, that being said, you pretty much need to decide what you are looking for: “win now” or “fix the position for a while” – I don’t think you can have both in this year’s situation (available players, cost of aquisition, cost of contract under Liberty’s team control). I think it will take a lot to “pry away” anyone who is a long term solution and I fear it will be a “Tex trade” to you guys (which, if the rest of the team had performed and we had been WS contenders for the two seasons we had him under control – assuming we didn’t trade him the second year because we were ‘in it’ – would you still see it as a bad trade?)

If you were to replace ‘must’ with ‘should’ in the question, I would say ‘FAIR’!

I agree on Kemp, the Dodgers are worth less w/o him; but, if MLB takes over for McCourt, I don’t think they would have a problem lessening the worth of the team in a sale (since McCourt has used the team as his personal ATM) and might trade Kemp.

If we could pick up Adam Jones, I would be good with that trade.

Additionally, a move may convey a sense of urgency and support for the rest of the team to win…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Fair or Foul

Part I: You keep Medlin over either of our two #5 guys (keep Medlin over Beachy or Minor).

FOUL!

Trade order of those three:

Minor
Medlin
Beachy

I can’t see saying “we know what we have with Medlin”. He hasn’t pitched in a single game since his sugery. They shut him down in a simulated game after just a few pitches because he wasn’t “letting it go”. He was favoring the arm, “afraid” to pitch like he would have to in a real game. That type of “fear” either gets you hit or, if you change your mechanics, gets you hurt. I’m with Hammy in that Medlin’s trade value is higher now that it will be if he “stumbles” when he comes back.

Beachy has something to prove every time he is on the mound. He wasn’t drafted. That information follows you in baseball for your entire career. He has shown he can pitch at this level and pitch well. Minor is promising, but unproven. He was a number one pick, so he has trade value.

Also, one minor thing (pun intended), Minor throws left but bats right… that means his left arm is always exposed to the pitcher when he is batting…

Part II: You keep Medlin over Teheran and Delgado.

Foul.

Trade order of those three:

Delgado
Medlin
Teheran

Delgado looked good, but he is 4-4 at the AA level.

Teheran has looked good at the major level (not great… then again, Medlin didn’t look great prior to his sugery, he was good, but not great), but he is 8-1 w/ 1.79 ERA at AAA (OBTW – Minor, on the same team, is 3-2 w/ 2.74 ERA).

Part II: Out of all five

I will go with:

Minor
Medlin
Delgado
Beachy
Teheran
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
I think Uggla can “turn it around” this season…

Though the average hasn’t exactly shown it, he has looked better at the plate lately. He isn’t pulling off the ball as much, he is staying on pitches better and he is walking. BUT he hasn’t left the “bad habbits” behind… yet.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Best sign of the week:

Beachy strong start off the DL

Worst sign of the week:

Fredi’s use of Venters instead of spreading it around when it isn’t “tight”…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
This week:

3-3 (this is the “down week”, if you stick with the “up week/down week” cycle…)

2-1 in Seattle (They are a good pitch, but can’t score team– sound familiar?)

1-2 in Baltimore (maybe 2-1/3-0, if we can hold down their scoring…)
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Curt Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Mark, thanks for the great stuff.

Baltimore is actually coming to Atlanta, if that changes your opinion on that one at all.
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Leah Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
At the theater for #3′s 6th birthday. Brought my Braves snuggle along to keep me warm. Gotta represent!

I would trade Meds (with much sadness) over Teheran or Delgado but not Minor. I’m on the fence with Beachy. I think Uggla turns it around. He just looks better. Of course I thought he would break out in FL so…

Good show!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
1. Heyward RF
2. Lugo 3B
3. McCann C
4. Jones DH
5. Freeman 1B
6. Uggla 2B
7. Gonzalez SS
8. McLouth CF
9. Ramirez LF

*facepalm*
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Is it bad when Julio Lugo’s top two highlights on mlb.com is an RBI single and an ejection for arguing balls and strikes?
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
*are an…

yeesh.
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Steve Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
#6 – Yikes. I’d not heard that about Medlen. That is troubling.
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Steve Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
#12 – Yeah, this lineup kinda horrifies me. Lugo and Diory together smells like a lower team BA than usual. See being horrified.

But, from a novelty perspective, it will be fun to see Heyward bat leadoff.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Steve, watching J-Hey lead off against a lefty with a 1.14 WHIP sounds un-fun to me. Heyward’s batting a mean .176 against southpaws this year, including only one of his homers coming vs. lefties. I’m trying to be positive, but it seems like we’re giving two outs away right out of the gate. Fredi continues to baffle me.

I will say I agree with the general concept of mixing it up on the line up card. But this one’s just foolishly bad.
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Curt Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
At least we are facing a leftie.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
To put #17 in further perspective, Jordan Schafer hits the exact same .176 against lefties, though Fredi is sitting him in favor of leading off with Heyward’s exact-same numbers. This does two bad things: robs us of Heyward’s speed if he should happen to get on (in other words, he is actually better than Heyward for lead off in this situation), and, more importantly, loses us Schafer’s defense in that canyon of an outfield.

It could work out. But it won’t be any less dumb for that. This guy just doesn’t have much workin’ upstairs.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
#19: *robs us of SCHAFER’s speed if he should happen to get on… not Heyward’s.
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Frigatedoc Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Great show yesterday guys…..glad to not hear so much gloom and doom! Can’t start my drive to work on Monday without ya!
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Steve Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
C,mon Bub, Heyward looked great in that first at bat. Sigh.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Monster Mac!!!!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Brian McCann is a superstar. Can we say that? I’m ready to.
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Steve Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
I’m ready, too. And I love that his power surge came after some tips from his brother a month and half ago.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Braves hitters very patient through the first three innings. I would be very, very impressed if they keep that up for a few games.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
eh… now they’re back to hacking. Sigh.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Just missed a Nater Tater.

Good at-bat, though. He looks much more relaxed of late.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Look at Beachy making Ichiro look silly with that K! That was a clutch out for the Beach. Like this kid.
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Steve Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Agreed. That Ichiro was a huge moment in this game and Beachy took care of it.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Freeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at our lefites hitting Bedard!
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Did you see Bedard on the replay of Freddie’s homer mouth “wow”?
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:07 am
What a huge hit for Freddie there. If all we can do is hit homers at this point, then let it be.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Well, McCann also has two singles, Stevie, including one that scored on a homer.

Mark, I saw Bedard’s face, was giggling hysterically.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:11 am
Sherrill, huh? We’ll see.

Whoa, as I type that, McLouth saves the day.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Now Linebink to clean up Sherill’s mess … I have an idea for a midseason trade…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:24 am
#10
Thanks Curt.

No, not a lot. I think the same idea applies in Atlanta. However, while their offensive numbers (BA, OBP, SLG, OPS) are about the same home and away, the O’s are 8 games under .500 away from home (they are 3 games over .500 in Balt.)…
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am
The Bedard “wow” was spectacular. It’s like the Mets catcher’s “oh my God” at Chipper’s homer at Citi Field.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:38 am
EOF doin’ it.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:45 am
#6
To be fair, I haven’t been able to find where I read that about Medlen, but here is something about it from a DOB story from June 22

After about two weeks off following a setback with scar tissue breakup, Kris Medlen is back throwing off a bullpen mound. He threw 60 pitches without problem on Wednesday as he starts his climb again to return from elbow reconstruction surgery.

Medlen is not throwing curveballs with any regularity. He’s going to ease back into throwing his third pitch, which is what he was throwing when he felt a scar tissue pop on May 31. But he said his biggest obstacle is now mental, not physical, and trusting his arm again.

“It’s the last hurdle for everybody who goes through this,” Medlen said. “You know your arm is strong. You know it’s sturdy and ready to go, it’s just the mental part. It’s that whole release of being able to let it go. I can feel myself, once I’m trying to throw it as hard as I can, my body is like ‘oh,’ and I guide it through. It doesn’t feel as fluid as I want it to yet, but that’s the last hurdle.”

As the Braves headed for the West Coast, Medlen was headed back to the Braves complex in Orlando. He has a one-way airline ticket and plans to stay there until he’s on the cusp of being ready to return, starting with bullpen sessions to live batting practice and possibly even his minor league rehabilitation. He could pitch in Gulf Coast League games.

The setback cost him a possible return in late July. Mid-August would still put him at the typical 12 months recovery, but Medlen is not putting a date on it.

“I am over trying to give myself a timetable,” said Medlen, pointing to his elbow. “It’s obviously going to depend on this guy.”
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:49 am
Kimbrel with a 1-2-3? Now THAT’s a sweet cap to a sweet game. Way to go boys, made me proud.
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Wiley Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Attaway Kimbrel
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:52 am
McCann’s and Freeman’s homers were only the 2nd and 3rd homers by left handed batters given up by Bedard this year.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:56 am
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Don’t you wish you knew what McCann said to him in Texas?

Kimbrel has NO walks, NO hits, NO runs starting with his last appearance in Texas… and that includes one non-save situation… in two of the three save situations he struck out the side
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:59 am
44

To be clear, in those two saves “struck out the side” means no ground balls and no flyballs…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:10 am
Anyone want to change the mind about trading Beachy?

20 strikeouts, 3 walks, 2 ER and two wins in his last two games? Can’t ask a lot more from a 5th starter… Figure once he is here a bit longer he will be able to go deeper in games, kind of like Hanson did…
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:24 am
Mark, trading Beachy would still depend on the package for me. It would obviously need to be way higher than that fourth OF that the Brewers (reportedly) refused to give us for the kid last year.

I don’t expect Beachy to keep up this post-DL tear. I think he caught the Jay’s struggling and the Mariners’ offense is slumping big time.

But I’ll be the umpteenth person to note Beachy’s demeanor; it really does seem to point to a guy who’ll maximize his talent. If this undrafted guy becomes a top notch 5th starter, I hope we hang on to him for a long time. For composure, he’s the anti-Jo Jo Reyes.

I would rather trade Minor, but I’d rather NOT trade Minor at the present time because I’m hoping his stock will increase enough to pull a solid return for him during the winter.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:30 am
With AZ losing, we’re back to a 2 game lead in the Wild Card, and you have to scroll all the way down to the Nationals to find the next team besides us with a winning record in their last 10 games.

In fact, only us, Philly, and the Nats in the whole National League have winning records in the last ten games. Weird.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:40 am
Great show. Great game.

Beachy looks pretty untouchable in terms of trade bait, imo, especially with Lowe’s recent performances.

Tradable:
1. Minor
2. Delgado
3. Medlen
4. Beachy
5. Teheran

I saw one of Delgado’s 4 loses in AA, and it was not very impressive. That doesn’t mean he’s not a fantastic prospect. It means he had a rough outing (Derek Lowe has had many in a Braves’ uniform). Julio faced the D’Backs, who were getting hot, and the Phils. Cut the guy some slack. Yeah, it’s beyond ridiculous that scouts compare him to a HOFer and one of the greats of all time, but doesn’t that say something about his stuff and his potential if he’s the top pitching prospect in the minors and scouts have compared his stuff to Pedro Martinez. We Braves’ fans are spoiled by good pitching. Minor is not as capable as Beachy, but he is still a serviceable pitcher in MLB. Also, the Braves have looked pretty good with their ability to evaluate pitching talent, so if they project Delgado and Teheran in their future rotation I’ll trust them. JJ, Hanson, Beachy, Teheran, and Delgado/Medlen sounds pretty sweet for a future rotation.

It’s time to figure out who you keep to go along with Tommy and JJ. We have very little offense in the minor leagues. We will have to trade to get it. No good offensive free agents are coming to Atlanta. I can’t remember the last time one did. We will have to acquire a better offense via trade. It’s a must. If we go to the postseason as is we will suffer many more frustrating 1 or 2 run loses and leave in the first round. So yes, FAIR on a trade for offense. Please. The question remains, though… Who? You guys threw out some great ideas, but I think Frank surprises us again, for better or worse…

Lol @ Marlon Byrd’s like 60 years old. That may be Steve, but he’s still better than McLouth and Schafer, both of whom will never be All-Stars. I don’t count McLouth’s Pirate appearance. Cameron Maybin and Schafer seem like the same player, and I would rather have Schafer. That would be like last year when we traded Blanco and Chavez for Ankiel and Farnsworth. What’s the point? Please no Michael Bourn. Kemp would be pretty sweet, but it ain’t happening. Neither is Granderson. Pence or Jones would be my top picks.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:43 am
Look at the AL East with the BoSox, Yanks, and Rays. I’m glad we don’t play in that division, and go Rays! Stick it to those money spending punks. Sick rotation. Longo heating up. If only they still had Crawford. If only. One of my all-time favorite players to watch.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:11 am
I absolutely love Meds and hope he isn’t traded. 13-1 in his starts last year. Is that good? Plus, he strikes me as a guy who would absolutely kill the Braves for the rest of his career if traded. I don’t really worry about that with Minor and Delgado.

Mark makes a good point about acquistions from within when we get Prado back and if Uggla hits his career numbers. The same goes for Meds and Moylo if they make it back this year. Our team could be scary good if everyone performs the way they should. We’ve been saying that for like 60+ games now…

Beachy’s demeanor: confident. From undrafted out of Indiana-Wesleyan to striking out Ichiro twice in a night. That’s pretty amazing when you think about it.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:17 am
Bourn is actually ahead of Mac on ESPN’s top 100 rankings. Bub, you’re a stat guy. Explain this to me.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:43 am
Nate, no idea about Bourn, though I did notice Fangraphs has him way up there in Wins Above Replacement (one behind McCann, actually…).

But ESPN can also just be way off on stuff. I know everybody says that, but this year, I’m seriously blown away with how terrible some of their baseball analysis has been. I think they have such a grip on the sports media market that they’re not even trying half the time.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:11 am
Agreed. Their CFB analysis is based on what have you done for me lately, and their recruiting stuff is puzzling. I could go on for days with their CFB failures. Soccer coverage is a joke. You have 40 wash-ups to be your analysts for baseball. BBT has become unwatchable. One of my favorite 10 weekday shows. Unwatchable. Bobby V and his dyed hair need to find something else to do. Kruk has lightened up on his Phillies drum beating, but he’s still kruk. Something about Carl Ravick makes me want to punch him in the face, and how long did they stick with the Mets? Why not give that show to Stark, Kurkjian, and Olney and get some younger guys to help. It just doesn’t make sense. They do alright with me on basketball. I don’t follow other sports enough to comment on their coverage. NFL coverage gets a C-. ESPN has let itself go. That’s all I got.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:13 am
*by 10 weekday shows I meant 10′o clock. I think that’s when it used to come on. It’s been a while since I watched it.
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Curt Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:55 am
It’s the simple fact that they employ Stewart Scott and Chris Berman that makes ESPN suck on an epic level.
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Eric Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Beachy looks like Andy Pettitte.
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john j Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:26 am
By the way, Lugo is just what the Braves need………another weak bat.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:35 am
#56, Whoop! But yeah, he’s terrible.
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Nate Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:37 am
If Marlon Byrd is 60 in baseball years, how old is Julio Lugo?
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:04 am
#58 – couldn’t agree more. It was my first thought when I read about the signing.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Amusing tidbit from MLBTR:

•Hoping for the Yanks to acquire Jair Jurrjens or Derek Lowe? We’re not sure if either is available, but Sherman says “the Yankees’ policy has become pretty much to run away from Atlanta pitching after having successful Braves hurlers blow up on them.”
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Curt Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:44 am
REVENGE
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Finally heard the show. Great show.

To keep Medlen over Delgado and Teheran would be nuts. Yeah, prospects are iffy, but Teheran and Delgado are about as assured as Freeman, Hanson, and Heyward were. And let’s admit they worked out great. Heyward’s had troubles, but he put up, what, 5 WAR last year? No way I’m keeping a solid #3 starter coming off TJS over a chance to have another cheap Hanson up here.

Order for giving up:

Minor
Medlen
Beachy
Delgado
Teheran
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Eric Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Anybody else notice how uncomfortable Chipper looked from the right side yesterday?

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go on the DL for knee surgery if Martin comes back before the All-Star break.
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Curt Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
I know I am drinking it because of last night’s performance, but you throw out Beachy before the other 2?
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Curt – I’m in the same place as you. I am absolutely drunk on Beachy’s last two games.
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J Mac Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Great Cast this week guys, always nice to listen to you every week.
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
#65 – It was an awful night for Chipper last night. Particularly striking out twice, LOOKING! So un-Chipper like. I was attributing it to him being uncomfortable in the DH role, I didn’t really consider injury. Damn. That’s depressing. This lineup needs Chipper badly.
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Eric Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Take out the game where he got hurt, and Beachy’s last 6 starts have been phenomenal. In 37 innings, he’s given up 6 earned runs on 17 hits and 7 walks. 48 Ks, too. Includes 6 shutout innings against Milwaukee.

I’ll take Beachy over any prospect except Teheran.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
After consulting Beachy’s game log, I’d probably place him behind only Teheran with the keepers. But I wouldn’t trade Delgado, either. Those last three I’d hold tight unless a long term, cost controlled very good CF was offered, which isn’t going to happen.
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Curt Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
“a long term, cost controlled very good CF was offered”

or a unicorn
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Frigatedoc Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
I hope the rookie pitching against the Braves tonight believes that he has faced them before in another lifetime….
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john j Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
It is great to see Uggla leading the team……………………in at bats and games!! Really shows a lack of quality back up players. Clearly, he has needed some days off to clear the cobwebs out.
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Pure Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Uggla makes in 1 day what I make in a year. And I can go 0-for-4 like he can.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
75

Unfortunately, like many things in sports, it is all about potential…

He has the potential to hit one out… You and I don’t…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
76

Sorry, that was rather presumptive of me. I don’t have the potential to hit one out… I really can’t speak for you…

But I could go 0 for 4 with ease…
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Hey J Mac – thanks for the kind words and visiting the board.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Well, the Phils just wrapped up what could be their watershed victory of the season, two-hitting the Red Sox with Lee, who was their most in doubt member of the triumvirate. And blasting Becket for five runs. As the resident Philly non-hater, I couldn’t help being entertained. I don’t see many reasons why Halladay/Lee/Hamels can’t set records in the post season.

But if the Braves get it together, they could be one of the few teams that could stop them. I can see an NLCS full of 1-0 games, something legendary. Not that I think our top three starters can match that ridiculous trio, but when hits are that hard to come by, what’s the difference between being one-hit by Halladay and being four-hit by Hudson if nobody scores? And I believe our offense can do as much damage against three mistake pitches from Halladay as theirs can with 8 mistake pitches from Hudson.

I mean our offense as it should be by October.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Man, where did Heyward’s plate patience go???
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Steve Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Man, that Ichiro homer left me stunned. It happened so quickly.
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Curt Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
After his flailing last night
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Tommy’s leaving pitches up early.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
This is gross.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
84

I think it might have to improve to get to there…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
These are the times I miss “picture-in-picture”…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Olivo can miss balls with his bat AND glove…

Thank you…

First pitch swinging has NOT benefited us this evening…
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Big, grunting uppercuts for everybody!!! Cuz line drive base hits are fer loozers.
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Danny Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
I keep feeling more certain that this team needs a different plate approach much more than it needs another player who could easily fall in with Uggla, McClouth, and A. Gonz as players who we over pay and they underperform with the bat!
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Danny Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Sorry for the errors Bub. New to the smartphone world.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Danny, agree 1000%

They’re coming out of their shoes, AND they’re being impatient. Two terrible faults on their own, let alone when combined.
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Danny Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Besides our recent luck with acquiring hitters, I am not ready to trade any of our young arms. Maybe Lowe can go, but it is far to early to tell who is the Jo Jo of our five young guns and who is the Wainwright of the bunch.

Affably Chipper!
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Danny Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Attaboy
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Danny Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
I know he has been less than impressive this season, but I see way too much potential in Minor to give him up for a Nate McClouth with a different name!
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Wiley Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:08 am
Alright Heyward lets see some mythical talent
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Wiley Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Mythical Talent is . . . well . . . the stuff of myths
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:12 am
I hope Schafer starts taking that approach with all the lefties he faces… choke up a bit on the bat, don’t try to do too much with it… at least until he develops an eye for lefties…
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:12 am
This game. Now I like it.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Bringing in Scott Proctor with the game on the line is dumb as hell.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Whew. Proctor escapes after throwing three friggin’ balls to a .175 hitter.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:38 am
Would be funny if that locked Uggla in at the plate…
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:04 am
McCann’t do wrong! 4 hits. .317 BA!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:16 am
What a game!!!! Wow, a nerve-wrackin’ heart racer. Great win.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Netflixers, if you haven’t seen the documentary “Thin Blue Line” from the 80′s, you can stream it instantly. I was blown away. I’d always heard of it – the story of a man wrongly convicted of murder and subsequently set free b/c of a documentary made about him – but I wasn’t prepared for how artfully it was done. The ending sneaks up on you and you can’t believe what you’re seeing is even real. Human beings are freaking crazy.

Is Leah around anywhere?
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ham Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Erol Morris (who made Thin Blue Line) is the best. You should watch “Vernon, FL”
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Awe…I do love it when you miss me. Leah is a working woman with little time for west coast games. Plus, I have a pinched nerve in my back which requires muscle relaxers and you know how that goes. I did enjoy the highlights from last night’s game immensely.

Uggla looks WAY better at the plate in the highlight videos. Is he flailing in his other at bats? And McCann…HOLY COW!!!!

Bub, I’m super bored at work so I might just check out “Thin Blue Line” and hopefully be able to catch the game this afternoon.

I’m not able to comment often but I still keep up with the board.
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Oh…and Bub, I think you should know the chicks are STILL leading the Fantasy League.
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Curt Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Leah* (compu-draft)

Where is the MLB love for McCann. The guy is far and away the best catcher in baseball. It’s insane that he almost wallows in anonimity. Because why, he plays in a far-flung place like Atlanta? For a team with no history, like the Braves?

CRAZY
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Curt Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Bub, did you ever get a chance to see “Lives of Others”?
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
#108 Hey…whatever works. And what’s your excuse for Kate?
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
I watched the first inning and had to go to bed after watching all of Monday night’s game.

What a huge game. I mean, can anyone remember a game this season where we came back from a 3 run deficit? An impressive showing.

And Bub – I agree on the Proctor comment. Please let’s DFA him and be done.
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john j Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Need some help from someone out there that is good with the stats. Where is a recap of pitcher’s inherited runners scored on a reliever? Also, is there a way to show how many times a pitcher finnished an inning they were in or how many times they were saved by another pitcher (runners kept from scoring)?

The point is that Sherill’s era seems to be misleading and I would like to see it in another light. For instance, if he comes in with runners on and gives up hits so they score, he was not effective but it was the other guy’s era that goes up. Also, when he screws up with hits/walks and is replaced and the new reliever keeps those runs from scoring, Sherill’s era is saved. Maybe just my imagination and subjective opinion from watching just a few of his outings, but Sherrill doesn’t seem like the guy I want in there in tough situations but his stats are good. What am i missing?
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Curt Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I like Sherrill more than Proctor or Linebrink, and their names were both impressive at times too. The last game I went to, Proctor gave up a 3 run homer and all of the runs went to Minor.
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Frigatedoc Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Loving the chat folks….

I can’t remember a game this season where after the Braves scored the first run I believed the would come back…. McCann is a beast. Two things I did see last night that concerns me is the downward spiral at the plate by Gonzalez, and Chipper looks tired…
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Frigatedoc – welcome to the board, by the way …

I had that same thought last night (after the first stinking pitch). The Bravos record is so poor when they don’t score first this year.
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
#112 john j: great questions. I don’t know, but I’ll do some looking tonight.
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Yikes. I didn’t remember that Lowe starts today. Would be a fine time for a bounce back start …
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
#117 Again? Already? How did that happen?
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Frigatedoc Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Did anyone see last night that the Braves were #2 in MLB for thier runs being generated by the home run? (The Yankees were #1 by the way).

Also (I think) over the month of June the Braves had the lowest batting avg. (it was under .200)

Interesting that Gonzalez is hitting is the #9 spot today.
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john j Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Freeman the only one hitting today?
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john j Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
NO sooner said then………………………….

Uggla and Conrad, back to back hits!!!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Curt, Lives of Others is not in position one in my queue.

Suffice it to say my sleeping pattern is screwed. I just woke up.

We’re leading with Lowe versus KF? Wow.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
*is NOW in position one in my queue, lol…
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Wasssup with the King and these wild pitches? I’ll take ‘em!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Wow, Frederick Freeman!!!!!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Leah, ouch, pinched nerve. But muscle relaxers are mmmmmmmmmmmm. Get well soon.
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
What’d he do? I had to look away from GameDay. I see we put up three more runs this inning.
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Ah, two-run single. the kid is batting 1.000 today.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Lowe, please don’t…
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
When Lowe is done, he nose dives. Looks like he’s done.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Rabbit’s foot inning for the Braves there.

When is Lowe’s contract up again?
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Alright, Fredi G., we dodged a bullet that inning. Send in some long relief next inning.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Jo Bu, Freddie’s single was a fine piece of hitting. He took a KF change up and did exactly what he wanted with it. He is a lot of fun to watch right now.
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Indeed, Bub. I hope he continues his hot streak as I’d like to see him the ROY this year.
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I know a few people, well, maybe everyone, would disagree with me but I think Hanson (and Lowe) need to go. I don’t think Hanson is really that great. He’s a younger Derek Lowe reliability-wise.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Eh, Hanson makes me nervous. But Atlanta doesn’t really have any shut down pitchers right now. Jurrjens and Beachy come close, but not quite. The whole staff is capable, though, of winning games.

I fear a decent offense would be beating Lowe like a drum today, though. Def. ready for him to go bye bye.
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Jo-Bu Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
And, to inject a little fairness into the mix: I think we’d all agree that if the Braves would hit consistently, we wouldn’t worry so much about any of these guys.
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Doing laundry and cooking supper whir on muscle Relaxers is risky. Ichiro looks like a kid who needs to pee when he’s at the plate. Go braves! Sweeeeeep!
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Wahoooooooooo!!
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john j Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Lowe helps Braves with each decent outing. Makes him more tradeable; they surely will trade him if they can find any takers? I would. They will need his salary to pay and keep the young guys. Not perfect but Hanson is a keeper. Smoltz, Glavine, and Maddux are once in a lifetime pitching staffs.; but, we have the makings of a solid staff for years to come.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Phillies and Braves pulling away from the field. 3 games up in the WC for ATL with the AZ loss. That feels really, really good.

Fredi should be punched in the ______ for pitching Venters with ANOTHER big late lead, this time against a terrible offense. The kid’s sinker is straightening out, which is as sure a sign of fatigue as loss in velocity. If we lose this guy in the second half, I will be as over Fredi G as I was over Yunel when he tried to break Glaus’s wrist.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Let’s trade Linebrink to Texas (they are looking for middle relief). We won’t get back much (a low level prospect), but we will save 600K+ and open a spot to bring back Moylan-lite (Cory Gearrin).
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Leah Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Am I the only one who doesn’t want to trade Lowe just yet?
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
You may not be the only one in the world, but between Leah and Bub, you’re the only one. 8)

There is no way Minor/Teheran/Delgado can’t give us a 4.25 ERA for the next 1.5 years, and for 20+ million dollars less. You can buy a lot of OPS for 20 million dollars. (Unless you spend it on Dannnn Uggla)
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Fredi Gonzalez just said something smart. That’s almost as exciting as the sweep.

Does Venters just seem a little fatigued?

“I think so. Roger and I have spoken about that already today. It maybe something that, without giving any secrets out, we may give him a couple of days. It’s something that we’ve got to manage it a little bit. And we’ve spoken about that. I hate to say anything about it because everybody reads the paper and you don’t want to give any secrets away to [the opponent in] the next series that’s coming up. But yeah, it’s something we’ve spoken about.”

“Not concerned about it, but we may have to give him a couple of days, just to recharge. He’s got, what, 46 appearances counting today? We may have to back off a little bit. He’s too valuable for us and we want him for the long haul.”

Had he already warmed up today, is that why you went ahead and used him in 5-1 game?

“What was it, 5-1? A 5-1 game and you had those left-handers coming up. We had Linebrink going just in case we popped another one [in the top of the eighth], and give Linebrink an inning. We didn’t and it was a 5-1 game, so go ahead and run Jonny out there.”

But you’re not saying he’s hurt?

“No, no. He’s fine. But we don’t want him to get to that point. So we’re going to have to manage that a little bit better, for our part.”
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Curt Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
And you have to figure he isn’t getting the all star break off.

Bub, excited about Lives of Others for you. Great film. There was a Blockbuster up the street going out of business and I combed thru 200 loose CDs to find it.
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Anne Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Christ, Kenchin!
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Anne, is that post from last year?
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Mets have scored 30 runs on 38 hits since … yesterday. 2 games. Thirty runs. If the Braves did that I’d run naked down the street shooting bottle rockets out of my butt.
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
What a great sweep. The Freddie/Mac show has been a joy to watch this series.

M in M – I could not disagree more with trading Linebrink. In his last 20 appearances he’s given up earned runs only once. His ERA in those 20 games is .089 and BAA is .159. He’s rock solid.

And yes, if we could get something decent for Lowe (now that Hudson is back and Beachy is all awesome) I say we do it.
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
#149 – Leaves me in the unenviable position of rooting against the Braves scoring 30 runs in any two game period this season.
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Steve Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
The Bravos have won 8 of 10.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Stevie, #151, even in the playoffs? There is no sparking hiney I wouldn’t view to see a 30 run playoff outburst.

Betcha didn’t know this: Braves have swept 3 of their last 7 series, and won 3 of 4 in another of those 7.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:06 am
Braves’ total sweeps in first half (# of games):

Giants (3)
Milwaukee (4)
Houston (2)
Pittsburgh (2)
Florida (3),
Toronto (3)
Seattle (3)

Not bad. And only swept once in a 2-gamer. D-Backs.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:32 am
My homer post of the day:

On this date last year, the San Francisco Giants were 4.5 games out of 1st place.

(They were also in 4th place, and 4 games over .500, and had just lost 4 in a row. Lots o’ fours…)

And they won it all. Baseball is weird.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Thanks to whoever said I should try “Vernon, Florida.” I streamed it late last night and liked it a lot.

“He had just said the day before that killin’ himself would be the LAST thing he’d ever do … which it was.”

Too funny.
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Eric Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I hate the idea of a $15 mil reliever, but D Lowe would be great in long relief. He usually pitches a really nice 3-4 innings and then falls apart. He’s a stranger to the bullpen. If the braves go with Jurrjens, Hanson, and Hudson for a 3-man playoff rotation, I would feel a lot more confident with Lowe coming on in relief than Linebrink or Martinez.
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Eric Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:31 am
**He’s not a stranger to the bullpen.
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Curt Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Bub, that was me.
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Steve Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:55 am
#153 – OK, I admit I would be fine with it.
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Nate Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:06 am
I kinda wish Chipper would go ahead with the surgery. What’s the point of playing hurt if you can’t be effective? Yes, Chipper hurt is still better than many other players, but he looked so much better in the Spring and earlier in the year when he was healthier.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am
#159, nicely done.
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DAP Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:00 am
interesting talk on trade targets…about adam jones, i think he is a bit overrated by some, though i think you guys proposed a reasonable trade for him. he hits for decent power, but doesnt really get on base well, and he doesnt steal alot of bases even though he is fast. not a terrible player, and id agree he would probably be an upgrade, but he wouldnt be a leadoff candidate for me.

i think the braves should more heavily consider upgrading SS. you mentioned adam jones of the orioles…how about they leave jj hardy in atlanta when they leave? hes having a great year.
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DAP Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:28 am
.196/.325/.407 28HR 84 RBI.

thats the stat line for carlos pena in 2010. i think this is probably the best we can hope for from uggla this season. not useless, but certainly not what we hoped for. also, i think this is a blip on the radar for uggla. he will be better next year.
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DAP Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Sorry if I’m behind…I just got a chance to listen to the podcast, and haven’t read the comments.

When it comes to trading pitching, with all the great arms we have, I see Medlen as a bullpen/long relief/spot starter kind of guy. Thats not the kind of pitcher I keep over any of our top prospects, Minor, Beachy, Tehran, or Delgado. The good news is, Medlen is not on the same level as those guys, so its not like any GM is going to say “I want either Tehran, or Medlen.” That situation won’t happen.
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Paul Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
#165 – I agree with your GM demand scenario, but I’m surprised you’d keep Minor over Medlen.
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Steve Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
sorry – #166 was me, not Paul.
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Curt Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Or was it…….
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Curt Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Eric shared this with me. Pretty funny.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6713507/derek-jeter-dl-diary
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Chris Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Hey guys, i’m new to the board, but I love the show and look forward to it every week! It makes my Monday mornings go better when I listen to it on my iPhone at work lol.

Quick question for you guys, I’m from PA and have been a diehard Braves fan since I was a kid thanks to TBS. I was thinking of coming down in August for Bobby’s jersey retirement ceremony. I was just wondering if anyone has ever went to the batting practice experience and if it was worth the $70 extra for a ticket? I thought it would be cool to do at least once. Do any of the players sign autographs during it?

Thanks guys
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ham Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
I recommended Vernon, FL. Not Curtis. Which goes to show, when Curt is right, it is usually me.
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Walker Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Chipper if you are reading, please get the knee surgery NOW!!!. We need you for August, September, and the playoffs!!! NOW!!!!!!
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Steve Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Hi Chris (#170) – welcome to the board. And thanks for the kind words.

I have seen the batting practice experience from the stands and you are certainly down on the field (behind a white picket fence looking thing). I can’t remember if there are autographs, but I would think there have to be. It looks pretty cool. You really are close.
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Steve Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
#163 – DAP, what would you give up for JJ Hardy? He’s having a terrific season but all his numbers in 2011 are above all his career averages. And, he’s a free agent at the end of the season.
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Kate Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
I read that the O’s are talking to Hardy about an extension.
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Pure Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
You’ve got to give it to the Braves. They swept the Mariners just to make sure that no matter which game Curt’s newly-wed friends watched, it was a win.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Ham, I knew “Vernon, Florida” was way too life-affirming to have come from Curt. Maybe if the sweet old jewel-order guy had been eaten by an aligator.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
You know, I’m tempted to put the Seattle sweep pretty high on the season accomplishments so far. Anyone else feel that way?

Oh, and just to put you on alert: I noticed Baltimore has a winning record against both the AL Central and the AL West. Couple that with the Braves’ tendencies to play “down,” to be less good at home, and to follow the happy with the very sad, and we could be in for a rough weekend. It would be really great if they picked now to not do that.
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Curt Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Bub, taking credit for the movie was just to bust on Ham. He thinks I get credit for all his brilliance. Apparently we sound alike to some of our loyal listeners.

It was pretty great my friends got to see such good baseball. A swell sign for their new life together.

And Bub, I’m with you on the sweep. Better than the Jays we just got excited about last week. On the road, really good pitching, decent team, end of a west coast road trip, etc. Great stuff.
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Bubdylan Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Ah. I thought you were busting on me saying you sound alike.

Hammy, you can rest assured I’ve never given Curt credit for (your) brilliance. 8)
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Steve Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Bub – 100% on the Seattle sweep. And Game 1 was the most improbable and amazing of them all. A lefty with a sub 2.5 ERA. Then a comeback win after that. And taking down King Felix to boot. Fantastic.

And yes, I’m worried about the Orioles at home.
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Curt Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
#180 or even my own, for that matter
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Leah Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Sad for Willie Harris. That is all I can type in with my blurred medicated vision.
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ham Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Curtis – I will always fall for that. I have a blind spot in that regard.

I am not worried about the Orioles. We have turned a corner. Two good weeks in a row. Beating left handers. Uggla hitting. Lowe winning. This is a new team.

We are who we thought we were.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 12:07 am
http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/1/A70-656

Here’s the facial expression I see when I read #184. Poor ham.
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:06 am
Ham you said it in the last show… “two good weeks in a row!”

Last night was the first time all year that I MISSED the Braves playing on an off day!
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ham Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:24 am
Bub – I am a good pig; I’ll admit it.

But seriously, don’t you guys feel better about the boys now? Some of the swoons previously this season almost seemed like foregone conclusions, but I feel like putting up a stinker against the O’s would be the biggest surprise/disappointment of this season.

Cue the no-hitter against us . . .
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:27 am
Ham, I’m not sold on Heyward and Uggla being close to the production we need from them. When that happens, I’ll be way, way excited. When that happens, we may be the best team in the NL or even in baseball.

As it is, I’m having a good time watching them play inspired baseball in spite of shortcomings.
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Steve Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:49 am
#185 really made me laugh. I was expecting to see Steve Carell’s face from the 40 Year Old Virgin poster. Yours was much better.

Ham – it’s been a hell of a week and a half, but those two losses to SD were only 6 days ago. And Uggla is not *really* hitting yet. Here are his BA/OPB/SLG the last 6 games. Better, but nowhere near the level where I’m declaring an end to his personal state of emergency: .200 .333 .500

All of that said, I am psychotically excited about this O’s series. Take 2 of 3 from them and look good doing it and my confidence levels will grow significantly.
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Curt Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:39 am
3 weeks Doc. 3 good weeks in a row and I am sold. I feel it coming.
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Curt Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:40 am
You know that Cliff Lee knocked in more runs in June than he gave up? Crazy.
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Anne Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:46 am
Excited to go to the game tonight…it’s been too long, and always good to have Jair on the mound. Go Braves!!
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:57 am
twss

(sorry)
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ham Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 11:46 am
Stevie – I hear you, but i am all in on optimism this weekend. Don’t know why, but I am.
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DAP Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 1:00 pm
steve DAP, what would you give up for JJ Hardy?

yes, he will be a free agent and if the braves got him, they would need to extend him as well. i’d give the O’s gonzalez, to playout his contract for the rest of the year, pastorinicky, who is our best most advanced SS prospect, and one of the lower rated pitching prospects like hoover or redmond.

i think they take that since hardy will be a free agent, but again, braves would need to sign hardy in the off season.

and even if they dont trade for him, lets hope the extension with the O’s falls through, because the braves should go after him as a free agent.
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DAP Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
also on hardy, though he is playing above his career averages, he is 28 and entering his prime. this is a time where he may play above his career averages for several years in a row. also, his career averages are over 100 OPS points better than what gonzalez is giving us.

if you look at hardy’s career numbers, they are up and down a bit, but one thing you can know about him. he has a pretty good K/BB ratio, has above average power for a SS, and hes just OK at getting on base. so to me, hes a bottom of the order hitter, probably 6th or 7th. he is also a very good fielding SS.
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Anne Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 1:15 pm
#193 – oh, Bub. Oh, and days later…the Kenshin comment could have been floating in the ether from last season, but he gave up like 7 runs in a double A game. Good money after bad. Wait…it’s all bad. http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/06/huntsville_stars_sock_ex-atlan.html
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Anne Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Bonus: Ballpark Frank joining my motley crew tonight!
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Leah Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Is the game on tv tonight? Thought I might could get it on the tube here in Big Canoe.
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Curt Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Leah, Sports South
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Walker Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 7:02 pm
I love the unbalanced schedule this year. The Phillies and Mets play the Red Sox and Yankees while we play the Mariners and Orioles. Its so unfair, but I love it.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Not sure I’ve been this impatient for a Braves game since opening day.

C’mon, Bravos. Knock Jeremy Guthrie into next week. Punish them for being Orioles, for being from smutty Baltimore, for firing Frank Wren, for wearing Halloween colors in the summertime. Show no mercy.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 7:43 pm
10 pitch 1st for Jurrjens. Good… good…
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Uh, Chipper? First pitch swinging after a 4 pitch walk? Why, man?
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Jair mowin’ ‘em down. 21 pitches through 2.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Okay, Braves. Don’t have to knock him into next week. How about into tomorrow? Into 11:00 tonight? Something?
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 8:15 pm
If Schafer keeps sliding all through this series, I’m going to have to call it a day on my hopes for him being a lead off hitter for the club this year.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Guthrie pitching his best game of the year so far.

Sigh.
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Steve Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
I know Bub – I get all excited and then the depressing offense shows up. JJ is looking amazing, however.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
YEAH, J HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-UTIFAL!!!!
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Steve Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Jason! Oh, if we can just get him going …
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Well, that’s that. Great, great job, JJ.

The only reason I really, REALLY wanted Jurrjens to pitch a no-hitter was because he leads the league in ERA and wins, but gets zero consideration for starting the all star game. That would have blown up in ESPN’s face if he had thrown a no no.

(I do think Halladay deserves the start, but it should at least be a discussion.)
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Uggla K’s thrice versus Jeremy Dang Guthrie.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Dang, Jair! Couldn’t have picked a better time for this performance. Venters needs rest and the offense can’t give it to him.

One more inning.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:44 pm
So, I guess it is time to trade Jurrens for the big bat we need (plus a few prospects)… Since Boras will take him out of town in 2013…

(Not my idea, read it somewhere, suggested TX for Nelson Cruise…)
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Mark in Memphis Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Was it a veteran move to put himself in front of the second baseman’s glove, good luck that the throw hit his helmet or bad defense?
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:54 pm
4 K’s for Dan Uggla. He’s completely lost. This isn’t ending any time soon.

Maybe Heyward can get his groove back and that’ll be something. I can’t believe we brought another slugger here who just fell through the stinking ground.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Can’t get behind boo’ing him on the field, though. He hustles too much for that.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
GREAT GAME, JAIR JURRJENS!!!!

Can’t stop smiling.
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Curt Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q
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Leah Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Oh…how I want to wish that one hit away. Great game for a great fella. However,Dan needs to change his name. It can no longer be Dan Uggla.
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Nate Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:11 pm
11 wins and a 1.89 ERA should definitely put you in the discussion.
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ham Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Optimism, thy name is Jair. What a game, seriously. Except for Uggla.
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Anne Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Happy to be home after a GREAT game. Don’t know if you could hear/see on TV, but when the no-hitter was ended, the crowd liberally applauded JJ – many on their feet.
For the record, Ballpark Frank was crushed at that moment, that he could no longer lawd it over you guys that “he was there” when JJ pitched that no-hitter.
Ham – Struggs got a double…
SO GREAT to see both McLouth & Schaefer in the outfield. The Samson-like locks are workin’ well for Natey-boy.
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Dan Uggla’s 2 WORST years were 2007 and 2009 were he hit .245 and .243 respectively. His hit totals were 155 and 137. He has 54 hits SO FAR this year. Anyone seeing him getting at least 83 hits for the rest of the season? He also has 12 HRs and 28 RBIs. If he had 0 HRs he would have 16 RBI (and that gives him a few for men on base when he hit a HR) for the first half of the season.

If he were playing the way he is capable of playing….even average. I wonder how many more wins the Braves would have?

On a high note…great game by the Braves tonight.

Wonder what neck muscle that Chipper injured getting hit in the back of the head. It was funny to see hit giving Derrick Lee a hard time for hitting him.

JJ……….we are not worthy….
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 am
AZ and the Brew Crew just lost. giving us a clean 4 game lead in the Wild Card race. Braves and Phils pulling away from the pack. Just 2 weeks ago there was a logjam of five teams at the top of the WC standings. Braves have really stepped on the gas.
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David Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 am
Great win last night, and a great job by Jurrjens. He definitely had no-hit stuff, and it looked like if the infield wasn’t play Adam Jones to pull, then Alex Gonzalez would have a good chance at making the play. But nevertheless — excellent start by Jurrjens.

I just read Brave in New York’s blog (great stuff, btw), and I agree with Fredi being a bit too calm as a manager. In his postgame comments, too, it seems like he’s being really…what’s the word…diplomatic, especially towards players on other teams. Last night, for example, he had the whole “their guy pitched a great game too, let’s not forget that” thing, which he often says. Now, this thing isn’t so bad, and I kinda like it that he says it, although it can get a bit old…

No, something that he said last night really served as a stark contrast to Bobby Cox, and I don’t think it’s in a good way. I was watching the postgame clubhouse interviews, and someone (Dave O’Brien at AJC?) asked him if he thought Jurrjens’ performance earned him the starting spot for the All-Star Game. Fredi’s response? “Well, I think he’s got one more start before that, but this was a pretty good performance that can get some attention to give him an opportunity to at least be on the team.”

“At least be on the team”?!?! What kind of endorsement is that? There’s no doubt that JJ will be on the team, and in fact he definitely deserves to be in strong consideration along with the Philly pitchers. Can’t you just hear Bobby’s response if he were manager this year? “Well he would be for me, there’s no question about it! He’s had a helluva first half, and I think he’s certainly earned it. If I were in there, I’d let him pitch 9 if they’d allow it, he’s that good.”

Fredi’s comments, though, either seem to be saying one of two things: that JJ’s all-star worthiness isn’t solid, which would be bad for him to say; or that he wants to be respectful of other players in the league just as much as he respects his own. The second one is also bad, b/c I think a manager should stand behind his player, hold him up, give him that boost and confidence, etc. I’m sure that Fredi does do that and his players know that they’ve got his support and confidence — it just doesn’t seem to shine through as much in his postgame interviews.

And also, I would just point out Heyward’s comments on the issue of whether JJ should be All-Star starter: “Do I think he should? I would not be mad if he did. It counts and I feel pretty confident, but there’s a lot of other guys worthy also.” Again — these are rather strange comments to be coming out of a Braves’ clubhouse, especially when we’re used to seeing Bobby as well as fellow players holding each other up.

Just some things I noticed and was curious about in the midst of what’s turning out to be a great week. Let’s make it 5 in a row tonight!
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 am
David, I noticed Fredi’s and Jason’s comments, too. Super awkward moment for Jurrjens. What a lame couple of endorsements.

With Heyward, I have to seriously start to suspect he is socially immature. Not a super bad knock on him, but I just don’t think that when he reaches for something to say, he comes back with a natural or appropriate response half the time. “Always frontin” as we used to say. Hopefully he’ll develop a little grace as he goes along, because he’s not coming off very likeable at all.

Fredi tries to be real in postgame, which I appreciate. But damn is he dumb.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 am
Great news on Prado’s mother. She got a ten year permit to accompany Martin when he’s in the States. You all may remember how upset he stayed last year about his mom being in possible danger.

Who doesn’t love Martin friggin’ Prado?
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Leah Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:12 am
I LOVE Prado and his love for his mama makes me love him even more. Great game last night!
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 am
@ Mark in Memphis….

Where in Memphis do u live? I live in Atoka and work on the Navy base…
Can’t wait for today’s game!
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Steve Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
David (#227) – Fantastic post. And yeah, both those comments are downright perplexing. I imagine, for Fredi, it’s some kind of taking the high road, or something crazy like that, but – C’MON! Like you said, of course he’s on the AS Team. The only question remains about he or Halladay starting the game.
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Steve Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Anyone ever use or heard of “stitcher” for podcast downloads?
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Welp, may as well see what the NLCS is gonna be like for our offense; Phillies just arranged their rotation for the Braves series: Halladay, Lee, Hamels.

Of course we’re countering with … Beachy, Hanson, & Lowe, one third of our playoff rotation. *shrugs*
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David Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Steve — thanks! I agree about Fredi trying to take the high road or something, but there’s no shame in the Bobby approach, either.

I’m thinking that it’s gonna be Halladay who gets the nod. He’s the reigning Cy Young, he’s got a million complete games this season alone, he’s got more IP and strikeouts. Jurrjens has him in ERA and the distinction of being the first to 10 (and 11) wins in the NL, and those are nice, but Halladay has the “name” and recognition as being the very best starting pitcher in all of baseball, and unless someone is able to totally out-do him, I think he’s the guy that Bochy will select.

But why else will it be Halladay over Jurrjens? It’s the Braves’ bridesmaid syndrome. As a team, they had it during the 14 division title streak, but now it’s affecting Braves players themselves in things like these — Jurrjens, Heyward, Hanson, Frenchy all finishing 2nd (or 3rd) in Rookie of the Year; Andruw 2nd-place MVP; McCann always being the runner-up for All-Star; etc.

Don’t get me wrong — I am rooting 100% for JJ to get the start, cause he’s definitely deserved it. And hopefully I am wrong, and it will be JJ over Halladay (and Lee and Hamels, for that matter).

Let’s go Huddy! Also — I’m smelling a big game from Schaefer tonight.
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Leah Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Huddy’s hilarious!
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
That squeeze call was moronic, and I saw it coming the whole time.
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Leah Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Steve, I use “Downcast” an it’s awesome.
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Leah Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:11 pm
#237 Bub, why didn’t you DO something?
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Grand Slam! I’ll take it!
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm
BTW….when was the last time the Braves scored 5 runs in an inning?
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Curt Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm
1998
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Steve Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Kind of a crazy night for me, in and out of the game – could not believe a 5 spot on the board. Unreal.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
lol, Curt. You won’t do.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 8:45 pm
But for the hot gloves, Hudson would be getting beaten like a drum right now. I’m just sayin’.

I lost my mind laughing at Huddy’s first inning fall.

And there goes a homer for the O’s… speaking of getting hit hard…
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Pure Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:08 pm
They jinxed Linebrink, with all their talk of not allowing a run. Next pitched, out of here.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
I can hardly believe that leading off with our two lowest OBP guys has yielded an 0 for 8.
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Steve Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 pm
#247 – I know. I can understand Schafer in the 1 hole, but Gonzo #2 is just ludicrous.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Have a bad, bad feeling about the ninth inning. Please, please be wrong, bad feeling.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Yessssssssssss. Bad feelin’s gone.
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Pure Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Kimbrel had it all the way
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Just think folks……..the best I have felt ALL YEAR about the Braves and we have Schafer and Mclouth starting in the outfield…..

When Prado comes back…sit Uggla and start Prado at second. I know, I know we can’t. That would be very “un-Bobby like.”
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Steve Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Kimbrel looks as automatic the past couple of weeks as he did the first couple of weeks of the season. 5 – 0 week so far…
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Mark Reynolds kinda reminds me of (a right handed) Klesko…..lots of power and very shaky defense. He could have easily had 3 homers instead of 2.
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Pure Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:28 pm
fearless forecast: first place by the all-star break.
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
@ Pure…

I wish! But the Phillies are rocking right now too!
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Bubdylan Says:
July 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Pure, we face Halladay, Lee, and Hamels with Lowe, Beachy, and Hanson. If Uggla and Heyward catch fire, maybe. Short of that, I think we’ll enter the ASB where we are now, about 4 back.

But I’m really proud of the Bravos. Playing with a severe handicap in Fredi Gonzalez. (Seriously, how many ways did he try to beat us today? Bogus suicide sqeeze number 4 on the year, batting Gonzalez in the top of the order, and not having Venters available because he was used with big leads last week… that’s three right off the bat).

Go Braves! Beat the Fredi and the Orioles!
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Nate Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 am
Who is more valuable as a rookie, Kimbrel or Freeman? Imagine how thin we are in the bullpen without Kimbrel. Imagine how much worse we are with a glausian first baseman. Interesting debate, no?

glausian- meaning a player who has a great month and then appears to serve no purpose for the other 130+ games and playoffs. See Bub for possible revision.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 3:44 am
Nate, I would so much hate to be without either Freeman or Kimbrel. According to Fangraphs, Billy Wagner was worth 2.2 wins above replacement last year. Kimbrel has given us 1.8 already, leading ALL MAJOR LEAGUE RELIEVERS by nearly half a win, which is nutsville.

Freeman has been worth 0.3 wins above replacement* so far, where Glaus gave us 0.6 for all of last year. For what it’s worth, Freddie and Troy had the same number of homers, nine, to this point of the season.

So, we replaced Wags and Troy, surpassed them really, for pennies on the dollar to say the least. And both stand to improve from here, whereas Troy and Wags regressed in the second half.

* (Warning: sabergibberish ahead) I actually used Freeman’s oWAR, or Offensive WAR, here instead of his full WAR for two reasons: 1. UZR, the defensive component of WAR, is unstable with less than a season or two of data. Most saberheads get grumpy if WAR is used to analyse any batter’s ongoing season for this reason. 2. Specifically, Freddie is punished by a poor UZR, which is probably just from too much noise in the data. We’ve all seen with our own eyes that he’s an asset defensively. So I just basically threw that value out.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 am
By the way, we’re 43-35, the same exact record as last year at this point in games played.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 5:32 am
49-35, I meant.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 10:18 am
@ Frigatedoc

Actually moved over the line into Olive Branch a few years ago, but the monicar started while I was living in Memphis and that’s the way folks on several podcasts know me, so I have kept it. Can’t quite “throw and rock” and hit Memphis, but I am close…
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Mark in Memphis Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
I understand picking Halladay over JJ to start the All-Star game.

Halladay has done it longer. He regularly throws complete games. Almost never fails to strike out a bunch. He almost always “looks” dominant in the games he pitches. Is defending Cy winner, and IS defending it… (i.e. is in the running for another…)

JJ doesn’t “look” as dominant. He was on the DL to start the year. He doesn’t “always go nine”.

But, the starter in the All-Star game has a chance to lose the game, but has no chance to win it. They never go the five innings to qualify. But, after the starter, whomever is the pitcher of record when the team takes the lead, he “wins” the game. If JJ doesn’t start, he has a chance to be the game winner…
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 10:47 am
If Haladay starts, it just shows that the All Star game is a popularity contest. Case in point, Buster Posey. How many votes did he get after he broke his leg?

@ Bub… You make my brain hurt! Lol
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Nate Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Bub, I actually understood most of that, and I agree u gotta have both guys. I might give a slight edge to Kimbrel. BTW, my iPhone wants u to change your name to Bib.
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ham Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
re #227-228 – did any of you notice how lukewarm the handshakes and high-fives for JJ were after the game? McCann seemed cold to him, and a lot of players seemed more congratulatory towards Heyward than they did to JJ. I was surprised, I thought there would have a warmer response.

Did I make this up? What’s the book on JJ as a teammate?
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David Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Ham – good point. Maybe a question for DOB?
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
#255 – Pure, I like your optimism. I also feel obligated to ask that you stop sniffing model airplane glue first thing in the morning.

I’m not saying we can’t catch them before the season is over, but we’d really need a sweep next weekend and that seems unreasonable.
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
#266: Ham – I noticed that too and then swept it under the rug. Troubling.
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
BTW – the Phils are already up 4 – 0 in the 2nd. I mean, c’mon!
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Two singles and then three strikeouts for Beachy. Seriously, my man crush on him can’t stand much more.
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Pure Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
On JJ — I did see a game a few weeks back where he showed up his teammates when a grounder got through the infield. As I remember it, he kind of tossed his glove in the air and rolled his eyes.

I can’t believe that Sunshine Steve is shooting down my first-place prediction/prayer. It’s something to aim for — a stretch goal. Unlikely, true. Where’s the excitement in predicting that we’ll still be four games back by next week?
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Sorry, Pure. Don’t get me wrong. I love it and want it like crazy. And my nay-saying is more a function of the fact that the Phillies just don’t lose these days.
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Leah Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
It seems like it’s been a long time since J-Hey got a hit.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Scott Proctor in a high leverage situation. Sorry to be negative when things are so good, but Fredi Gonzalez is an unmitigated moron. Just as we all figured, Fredi has been unaware just how close Proctor has been to losing every single game he’s pitched in without extreme luck. That they sent Martinez down instead of cutting Proctor when they called up Gearrin is absolutely mindboggling.

Every. Single. Step. Of the way, from his signing to his first call up, I have screamed that this guy is a loss waiting to happen. Everybody has seen it but the Braves. Unreal.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
And NOW Venters is warming up?????

Fredi Gonzalez if freaking brain dead. I can’t freaking stand our ridiculously stupid manager.
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Jo-Bu Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
What a pansy rookie ump who just wanted to get out of the hot sun. What a punk. The last two pitches called for strikes were no where near the plate.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I’m not sure how much I can take of this guy. He tried his whole soul best to lose us the game yesterday, and now he does lose us the sweep.
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Jo-Bu Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
The Florida fans warned us about Fredi G. I’m becoming less and less a fan of him.
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Kate Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
I can’t believe how much Fredi makes me miss Bobby. Chipper looked absolutely disgusted with Proctor, maybe that will finally get him released.
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Nate Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Kate, could not agree more with everything you said. Proctor was throwing bp pitches in a 1 run game. Why are we using the Yankees leftovers. Get him out of here.
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Curt Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Amazing thing about Proctor is that the Braves handcuffed themselves to him. When the sent him to Gwinnett, they guaranteed he would be brought up by a certain date, regardless of how he had pitched. Now it seems they don’t want to admit their mistake. The loss of Peter Moylan has been greatly understated.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Phillies, DBacks, Brewers, Cardinals all lost. That does a lot to soothe the wounds.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Fredi: “ Shoot, Scotty has done a hell of a job for us. Everything was in place for us to get through that seventh inning.”

*head explodes*
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
#284 – But Bub, he was all folksy and said “shoot” to start the sentence. That should make it all better.
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Steve Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 pm
All – We recorded a great mid-season show tonight but lost it to technical difficulties. Sad but true. We’re shooting for a Tuesday night do-over. Stay tuned.
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Nate Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Borderline tragic…
I was really looking forward to Curt laying into Fredi for the Scott Proctor fiasco this afternoon. I’m also guessing Fredi won’t be getting an A on his mid term.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Aw, dudes. Sorry you lost the work you put in, I know that must be frustrating. Look forward to the do-over.

Happy Independence Day, everyone.
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David Says:
July 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Steve…WHAT?!?!?!? Dang. Sorry for you guys, that’s too bad. Whenever it comes, the next podcast will be thoroughly enjoyed!
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Bubdylan Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 4:30 am
http://yfrog.com/h0imwrcj

That’s one of the best in game photo’s I’ve seen in a while. It’s Ross coming to home plate to be greeted by the three he knocked in with his GS plus Hudson in the on deck circle. A really great shot.
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Steve Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Hey Folks – thanks. And it’s true, there was not a love for Fredi or Proctor in the lost show.

#290 – Awesome. Love it.
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Steve Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 7:12 am
And Happy 4th of July everyone. The family is taking off for north Georgia this morning to drop the first born off at his first sleep away (baseball) camp.
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Steve Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Anyone seen Cars 2 yet? Another loss from last night was my scathing review.
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Leah Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 9:02 am
So sad…no show? Oh well, I’m on vacay anyway and head back to work on Wed. So it’s kinda perfect but sorry for work lost. Can you tell us this week’s predictions? Hope the kid has fun at camp…you told him to sleep with one eye open right?
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Leah Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Oh and I saw Cars 2 while heavily medicated and thought it was boring so it must have been very bad. I thought the Winnie the Pooh preview was hilarious.
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ham Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 9:32 am
I put this question out on the “show” last night, but I am sure I will forget to re-ask on the re-do. What is Uggla’s WAR (or in this case LBR – losses below replacement player)? And does he have the worse one considering how much he makes? How many millions does he make per L (or negative W)?

Does that question even make sense? Bub, help me out.
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Nate Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Pretty cool that the players voted Chipper an all star. The Vulture made the squad, too. Awesome. I’m pleased with our four selections, but I thought Hanson deserved a nod, especially if he pitches well tonight.
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Ham, It makes complete sense to me. Kind of like when someone broke down how much Hampton was paid for each pitch, strike, ball, etc. I am just not smart enough to do it!
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Bubdylan Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Steve, I hate that your Cars 2 slam was lost. I’m a complete Pixar fanboy, and I refuse to watch it. I could tell by the trailers they totally sold out for merchandising and the reviews just confirmed it. I couldn’t possibly be more bummed out about it. Pixar held sacred status for me in an otherwise generally bankrupt film industry. A real “et tu, Brute?” moment.

Alright, down to the lake to shoot bottle rockets into the tornado wreckage…
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Bubdylan Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Ham, Dan’s given us a loss of 0.7 games at a cost of around 5 million.

Adam Dunn’s got him beat with a loss of 1.2 games at 6 million.

Chone Figgins, for about 5 million, has given the Mariners a loss of 1.3 games.

And that’s the first two players that popped into my limited head, there’s no chart of this info per se, so I’d just have to think of a player that’s sucking and go find the figures. I’d be surprised if Dan’s in the top 10, but I could be wrong. His homers have kept his value from reaching the heights of travesty.

Okay, now I’m really gone.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Oops, I was wrong. Dan’s actually cost his team the 9th most in WAR in all of baseball, regardless of salary considerations.

The bottom 9:

Figgins,
Dunn,
Ibanez (surprised to see a Phillie, didn’t know this),
Pierre,
McGehee,
Overbay,
Chris Johnson,
Huff
Uggla

Some juicy salaries in there, but I ain’t looking all that up! Okay, gone for REAL for real.
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Nate Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Jason Bay
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DAP Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Y’all lost the podcast? What, did you ask Scott Proctor to post it for you or something? : -)

Looking forward to the re-do. Happy 4th of July y’all. We live in a great country!
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Leah Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Wow, who’s the trucker on the pitcher’s mound?
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Curt Says:
July 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Good win. Jiminez has been very good on the road. Can the Phils lose?
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Steve Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 10:11 am
#305 – And I happened to see the 1 run the Phillies scored last night and Dominic Brown was out at the plate. Immaterial, I realize, but thought I’d throw it out there.

Great win. Keeping it going. I think Mac and Freddie could carry us.
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Mark in Memphis Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am
SOMEBODY needs to tell Uggla:

“For the rest of the season, I want your approach at the plate to be ‘take everything the other way’. If you are going to swing at it, it better be aimed at center or right. Every time I see you try to pull a ball, you sit the next day.”

Too harsh?
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Steve Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:58 am
#307 – Not too harsh, but I don’t know that it’s the right thing to do (I’m not claiming to know what’s right). It’s just that his first 5 years were very consistent and successful. I still think this is about his head and not his mechanics. Maybe your suggested approach would swing the pendulum (head-wise) back to where it needs to be.
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Danny Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I think every time Struggla swings and misses at a ball off the plate outside he should pay a grand or so. He can’t reach the outside corner, so he should start making pitchers either throw strikes or come inside. This is pretty similar to other suggestions made, like simply stepping up closer to the plate. He crushes pitches inside, so maybe he should go all Jeff Bagwell and crowd the plate and look for up and in fastballs.
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john j Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Uggla’s lack of timing and good swings is looking more like a lousy hitter than just a bad streak. Is it time to face up to the fact that some careers do end early? If this proves to be the end of a career and not just a bad half season or a bad season, his contract will go down as one of the worst in baseball history.
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john j Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
One more Uggla thought: Since the Braves signed him as a power second basemen, is he so determined to hit 25 homers, that he doesn’t care if his average is .170?
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Nate Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I just feel bad for him at this point. It’s totally in his head. He might be one of those guys who just has to figure it out on his own, but right now he just looks lost at the plate.
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john j Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Hanson should at least be the first replacement player for all star game!
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Maybe he (Uggla) needs to get with Smoltz and find out who his Sports Psych Doctor was who turned his season around (early is his career) . It’s not like he can’t afford it!

Remember how excited we all were when the Braves signed him?
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Nate Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Apparently our old friends the White Sox are looking at Lowe and Beachy. Carlos Quentin is mentioned in return.
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Eric Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Does anyone know why Freddi keeps moving Gonzalez into the two spot? It makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Eric, Fredi just doesn’t get it. We all keep waiting for the “I knew that wasn’t real” moment where he starts to make some sense. It ain’t coming.
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Kate Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
A monkey could fill out the lineup card better than Fredi.
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
With all of this talk about Uggla we have an issue at SS. Gonzalez? What are we going to do with him? Conrad?
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Adam Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I like how Freeman is amazing now.
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Walker Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Fredi hurts this team when he doesn’t maximize its potential by putting Jason lower in the order. Its really frustrating that he would do this while we are winning. I like Fredi but he’s really stupid.
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Steve Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
“I like how Freeman is amazing now.” Best post of the year.
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Nate Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
That was a direct shot. Walk it off Heap…
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Leah Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
His name…is…

I’m afraid to say.
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Nate Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Oh, that’s why he’s an All-Star. Sweet.
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Nate Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
99.
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Bubdylan Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Well, I had that game chalked up as a loss with Lowe going against Chancin or whatever his name is. Fortunate to get a win on a Lowe double, with the way he was pitching. But I’ll take it.

DAN UGGLA, HELLO SIR!!! Stay a while. Please?

Venters worries me. Hope he’s alright.

Congrats to Kimbrel on the rookie record. What an incredible first half for the rookie. Is today’s game in the show at all?
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David Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
I know that Braves fans still bash the Feliz/Andrus/etc-for-Teixeira trade, but if we didn’t make that trade back then, we wouldn’t be celebrating Kimbrel tying the record for most saves by a rookie before the all-star break NOW.

Here’s hoping that Kimbrel breaks Feliz’s record for saves by a rookie (40), which he set last year! Btw — that’s a question for the podcast…who would you rather have: Kimbrel or Feliz? Freeman or Teixeira (i.e. we were able to sign Tex to a long-term contract)? Andrus or…Alex Gonz…ah nevermind.
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Vinnie Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
#328 – David, I like it.

Bub – we just finished recording. And yes, tonight’s game is included.
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Steve Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
#329 is me.
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Leah Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
If Dan Uggla was on my fantasy team I’d bench him. When I bench someone who should go o’fer, they bat a thousand. I would make a terrible manager
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Jo-Bu Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
#329: Hope it’s a long one tonight (minus the movie reviews which I skip)
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Steve Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Jo-Bu, first off, twss.

Secondly, I’ve got good news and bad news. It is a long show, and there is a movie review.
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Jo-Bu Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
LOL, Stevie!

Hey, I’m sure lots of folks love the movie reviews — myself, not so much but, that’s the beauty of a podcast, ey?
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Frigatedoc Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Knew it was over when Proctor came in…..

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