Show #155: Another Impressive Week for the Braves
A 5-2 week. Chipper to the DL. Gonzo in the 2-hole. Kimbrel in extras. And Jeter’s 3,000th.
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July 10th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
I’ll say NL wins the ASG. And I too agree about the NL having better pitching than the AL.
2-1 series win over the Nats. If the Baves as a team have a passion to go out there and sweep the Nats to right a wrong with the Phillies series, they’d simply start pressing too hard/over compensate as a consequence.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:21 am
Derek Lowe makes 15 million a year and is our 5th starter. That’s a Carlos Zambranoesque problem.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:00 am
Great show. “Zambranoesque” problem is an overstatement, but he was really disappointing this afternoon. He never seemed to be interested in the game. If only we had that money and the KK money to work with…
July 11th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Good show guys. In a way throwing Kimbrel out there to face the bottom of their lineup and hoping to score in the top of the next inning doesn’t make sense. It seems to delay the inevitable. Has Kimbrel ever pitched two innings in one game? Also puts more pressure on the offense. I mean I get wanting to dig in to the bowels of their bullpen but still…no win situation. Come back Moylan!
July 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Julio struck out Bryce Harper in the futures game. Pretty cool, imo.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:50 am
#5 – Very nice. I haven’t read anything yet about it. Love that. I hope Julio blew him a kiss afterward.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:06 am
From Mark Bradley:
Scott Proctor, Braves: In the span of eight days, the reliever proved he couldn’t pitch with a lead (against Baltimore on July 3), a tie (against Philadelphia on Friday night) or a nine-run deficit (against Philly on Sunday). This would not seem to augur well for long-term roster presence, especially with Peter Moylan and Kris Medlen rehabbing from surgery. Heat Index: There’s a definite chill in the air, or maybe it’s just the breeze from another home run.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Got to be happy at this stage with 5 game WC lead. This is with alot of disappointments and a lot of close game losses.
Best moves Wren could make:
Give away Lowe for nothing to anyone who will take the contract (do it right after a good start; some buyer team might just do it) and use the money elsewhere including holding young stars.
Release Proctor and bring up ANYBODY else.
Help from you experts: is there a selling team out there with a right hand, power hitting outfielder, upcoming free agent that the Braves can rent for the rest of the year that wouldn’t cost a premier prospect?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:52 am
He might be worse than Jesse Chavez.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Sunday would have been a good Christian Martinez day.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
#10 – Agreed.
#8 – problem is, no one with a power hitting right handed outfielder in his contract year will give him up for anything less than a good prospect or major league ready (Minor, for example). Also, after the Tex deal, I don’t think the Braves will ever trade for anyone they don’t think they can lock up (if giving away farm talent is part of the deal, that is).
July 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I am bummed that JJ is not start the AS game.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I keep hearing that Beachy is the guy teams want
July 11th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
What about Matt Kemp? I think he is signed through 2012. One problem is that the Dodgers may feel they are still in it. With the way that organization is going though…would the Braves want to deal with them? I’ll bet Kemp would be up for it!
July 11th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
How about Lowe to Detriot (who BADLY NEEDS starting pitching behind Verlander – where Lowe might do better when he doesn’t have to hit and run bases) for Peralta (SS), who we play at 3B until Chipper comes back, then shift him to shortstop?
Give us a good defensive line-up when sitting Chipper and a better offensive line-up when Chipper plays…
OBTW – Peralta bats 6th for the Tigers behind Ordonez, Cabrera and Martinez… think he might bat a little higher in our line-up?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I agree that Lowe is our 5th starter, but the guy only gave up 4 runs and if it wasn’t for a Dan Uggla error he would have given up less. He wasn’t that bad guys. Maybe if someone would have shown up to hit yesterday the game would have been closer so O’Ventrable could hold the score.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I just don’t see Lowe bringing much in return, should he be the one who gets moved. He’s too old, inconsistent, and expensive for teams to give up a 29-year-old AS shortstop in return. I could be wrong, but to me, the Braves are going to have to move a young guy. And reading the reviews from the Future’s Game, it sounds like Vizcaino was more impressive than Teheran.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Last week in a tweet, DOB said he thought the Braves were happy to wait for Pastornicky or Salcedo at short. If that’s true, it’s Bourn or nothing. I think I wouldn’t mind giving up Shafer and Delgado for Bourn.
It doesn’t look like much is available. I hope Wren doesn’t make a move, just to make a move.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Not sure about Kemp. LA times and Spotrac.com both show his contract ends this year but he is not listed on some of the 2012 free agent lists. How about Lowe, Proctor and player to be named later for Kemp? Then spend Lowe money on new Kemp contract. Sorry, I was dreaming there for a second.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Apparently, JJ would be a .500 pitcher if he had stayed with the Tigers due to the sheer awesomeness of the AL. Take the time to read the comments section after this article.
http://www.freep.com/article/20110708/COL08/107080433/Drew-Sharp-Jair-Jurrjens-wouldn-t-an-All-Star-Tigers
July 11th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
@ # 20 Curt:
Crap like this kills me….. He is right, JJ is NO Smoltz, but we are talking about THIS YEAR and JJ is NOT in the almighty AL.
That is like saying that if we had Chipper and Prado in the playofs last year we would have won the World Series.
It is no secret that JJ does not have overpowering “stuff.” But he places pitches where they need to be and he has the stats to prove it.
Maddux never overpowered anyone, but he placed pitches where they needed to be. I don’t think he ever broke 90 either….. this snuff to JJ is killing me. he is having a great year and compairing him to “what ifs” in completely ludicrus….
Sorry guys….
July 11th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Right there with you, as are all of the Detroit fans, apparently.
July 11th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
#20: Wow, get a load of the Detroit fans sticking up for JJ! I love it and they seem to know a thing or two about baseball up there in the Motor City. I think they are exactly right. That’s at least two trades they’ve been burned by dealing with Atlanta, hindsight being 20/20 and all.
July 11th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Tough situation for Lowe. Yes, sometimes he pitches well and sometimes not. Some teams would be happy to have him. I’m sure he suffers alot with the negative comments; suffers all the way to the bank. The fact is that unless the Braves find some more hitting somewhere, they are going to be a team that relies on their pitching for the next few years and he is not up to it anymore. Also, he is probably in the “Top 10 overpaid players” category; young players may have a tendency to feel cheated with a low salary when vets make millions more and can’t perform. Lowe has got to go at the first opportunity is one man’s opinion. By the way, it would only take about 11 mil to keep McLouth (option) and he also has a good day now and then.
JJ deserves only praise and Hanson deserved AS status.
July 11th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Some good stuff on Vizcaino from BP’s Kevin Goldstein.
“Vizcaino threw a grand total of six pitches on Sunday, but after Moore and Cosart, he was the most impressive pitcher of the game, throwing 96-98 mph and freezing Will Myers on a low-80s curveball for his lone strikeout. Now a 20-year-old with 46 strikeouts in his first 43 2/3 Double-A innings, the hype train is starting to grow on Vizcaino, with one scout gushing, “Vizcaino’s top two pitchers are better than Julio Teheran’s top two. Don’t be surprised in his timetable gets accelerated, as he could be getting big outs of the major-league bullpen come playoff time. “