Show #157: The Braves Pitching Struggles on the Road
Trade deadline talk. The starting rotation. Chipper’s return. And the Wayward Heyward Meter
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July 31st, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Amazing trade.
Bourn
Prado
McCann
Chipper
Freeman
Uggla
Heyward
Gonzo
July 31st, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Now we need a right handed outfielder and a right handed bullpen arm.
July 31st, 2011 at 12:53 pm
I’m really pumped about this Bourn deal. Remember our offense when Schafer was playing well? This could be the spark we need to get our offense going again.
July 31st, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Bourn is the absolute perfect deal we could have made. I’m very happy with that.
It doesn’t take much to wonder how much he can help this team. If we look at the success of the Braves since Schafer got up here, the Braves won most if not all of the games when Jordan was getting on base in the first inning (or really anytime). When Jordon wasn’t getting on base (as it seemed to me that he would often lose site of what they role of a lead off man is) we were losing those games. Bourn knows and loves his role as lead off man. He’s not going up there every 15-20 AB or so trying to knock the ball out of the park as we would see from Schafer. Jordan will be the the player that Michael Bourn is now and in years to come, he might be a menace to us but for right now, this season, Michael Bourn is the perfect piece.
July 31st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
mlbbowman Mark Bowman
Wren said he could have had Beltran or Pence if he had made a serious push for them. Says Bourn is the better fit. #Braves
#GANGSTA GM
July 31st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Borrowing from @298
“That’s the kind of value Atlanta MUST get from a couple of players per season if they want to contend on 90 million.”
Maybe it is a case of “a couple of players per season if they want to contend on 90 million.”
We picked up what should be our CF at least thru the end of 2012 (he is able to become a free agent, but doesn’t mean he will…)
We have picked up/drafted what should be our starting staff for several years (and kept them during this period).
July 31st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
I am definitely glad to see Bourn, especially since I have been making a casefor trading for him for a while…
July 31st, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Now if we can trade Proctor and Gonzo for Infante.
July 31st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I wouldn’t trade Gonzo for Infante. It wouldn’t be a smart trade. As bad as Gonzalez has been, He at least has a little power and more range than Infante.
I just found out that Denard Span is signed through 2014. I wonder if Wren took a look at him since we would have him under more control. Boun’s agent is Boras so we will only have him for 1 1/2 seasons.
July 31st, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Did you see Constanza’s face on the hit? He was looking triple if the fielder bobbled the ball for a second…
July 31st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
I like the Bourn deal. Braves give up none of the pitching and get a better version of Schafer. However, I give Schafer credit. He’s pushed it and tried to make things happen. More than I can say for McLousy. So now…we dump Proctor, McLouth and tell Chipper to not use his oblique for the rest of 2011…Braves will be in Fat City.
July 31st, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Wow. I just woke up and now we have Bourn! I can’t believe how Wren got that deal done. We gave away scraps!
July 31st, 2011 at 3:07 pm
I love the Bourn deal. Got a great player without giving too much in return, while Houston did get a major-league ready player, which is more they can say for their Pence deal.
In some way, this feels slightly a bit like the Teixeira trade – giving up several prospects for a player that we will have for a year and a half. I think, though, that we will get more from Bourn than we did from Tex – in a way, his speed can do more than Tex’s power bat.
July 31st, 2011 at 3:39 pm
craigcalcaterra Craig Calcaterra
What will suck: awesome trade deadline; possible no-hitter, but if Brett Favre farts off-key today, ESPN will go wall-to-wall with it tonite
SO TRUE
July 31st, 2011 at 4:34 pm
“Let’s get 12 hits and one run” is a synopsis of our whole darned season. Booo.
July 31st, 2011 at 4:37 pm
A sweep would’ve been nice…meanwhile, Phils & Pirates tied 5-all.
July 31st, 2011 at 5:27 pm
With what I was hearing last night I thought we had no shot an anybody, and to come away with the piece we need without giving an Atlanta bound prospect is so HUGE. I’m with Bub, I had little hope for Schafer speeding up his development. What Wren said about Jordan in the interview on the AJC page is a very fair assessment of where Jordan is right now and what the Braves actually need from their CF.
“Michael is what we hope Jordan will be in three or four years. That’s really what it came down to. And a team that’s poised to win, we need the finished product. And that’s what Michael is. Jordan still has a chance to have a good career, because he can do a lot of things on a baseball field to excite you. But right now, with a team we feel like has a chance to be a championship team, he may not be ready to be that key ingredient that Michael is.”
The whole interview with Wren, done by DOB, is really a great read and offers nice insight into the direction of this club. I like where this organization is going. We’re built to win now, and we have some great depth to sustain us for the future. Our team has come a long way since the Summer of ’08. Kudos to Wren.
July 31st, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Great getting Bourn. Even better news when Wren said it was the one thing they were lacking. Shows he is right on top of it.
July 31st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
If Cantstandya’s performance today gets Proctor sent down(fingers crossed), then he is already the favorite for MVP of the 2nd half. Sorry, Dan. But in all seriousness, the guy can fly. He wouldn’t be a bad option coming off the bench late in the year. I might rather have him on the roster than McLouth. Who has more value as a 4th OFer? What will McLouth’s role be on this team?
July 31st, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Sainthood for Wren! His favorite worshipers are out in force. We forgive him for his multiple sins as he promises to only do good in the future.
July 31st, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Looks like we could have used Bourne today, I didnt see the game but 13 hits and only 1 run?! maybe Bourne could have manufactured a run or two with his speed. He is exactly what our team needs, since it seems like most of our runs come from home runs.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:06 pm
“Braves Feeling Bourn Again” headline within one week. I’m calling it.
July 31st, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Bourn Ultimatum: Get Me Outta Houston!
July 31st, 2011 at 8:58 pm
@492
You really need to stop hating on Wren and give credit where its due.
July 31st, 2011 at 10:10 pm
498, NO hate involved. And the”great getting Bourn” was totally sincere; it is a great trade.
Overall, Wren misses more than he hits with his important transactions but he runs a good developmental minor league system. The number of good current and X-Braves continues to grow throughout the MLB. But, all in all, I think the Braves could find a better judge of talent. The Rangers still talk highly of him and his contribution to their pennant. Pirates are also happy and Lowe’s heirs are also very happy.
A GM also has to have enough sense to keep the players they developed which means you need money so, you can’t tie up big bucks on the Lowes and McLouths of the world. It is time to start locking up the real talent on the team with new and extended contracts.