Show #158: Braves Make a Big Move at the Trade Deadline
The Braves land Michael Bourn. The Braves trade for Michael Bourn. Did I mention we got Michael Bourn?
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August 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Also, my God, people disagree with me on here every week, and nobody shoots down my opinions more regularly than I do myself. I think you’ve gotten the wrong end of the stick about me. I’m clumsy in my wording and tone, but if I’m some kind of elitist with my views, it’s news to me. Hell, I can’t even keep the same view for more than three days. I’m not really used to anybody being pissed at my opinion because most folks laugh it off and wait for it to change, if they regard it at all. And the blood pressure checking goes both ways.
August 1st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
AAAAAAUUUGGGGHHHH. Carroll Rogers had my hopes up for a Proctor DFA, but now she thinks it might be Cantstandya that hits the bricks. Urgh. Maybe we’re waiting on Moylan.
August 1st, 2011 at 5:34 pm
#14 Walker’s right. Last week’s (no pun intended) post AND I would have paid anyone to take Frenchy. Nothing personal (don’t want to offend in any way…at all).
August 1st, 2011 at 5:42 pm
The sobering part of the Bourn trade is that this is how I felt when we got McLouth?
I think Wren has done an okay job. The Lowe/KK offseason wreaks of desperation to find pitching, and if any of you remember we couldn’t get anyone to sign with us. I think he overpaid on Lowe to keep the Mets from getting him, and we all know they would have overpaid. We were not the only club interested in KK, and there was decent buzz about him that offseason. If he gets any kind of run support, who knows, maybe things work out a little differently.
The Vazquez trade was fine with me. I’m excited about Arodys. Mike Dunn helped us get Uggla. Melky, like McLouth, didn’t play to his potential.
The McLouth trade seemed great at the time, and do some of you really think Charlie Morton had a future in Atlanta? Really? He may have Halladay’s mechanics, but Halladay he is not. Also, whatever happened to Gorkys Hernandez?
Wren gets a fail from me on his trades last July. I think Steve and Bub are the only 2 people who still like the Yunel trade, and the trade for Farnsworth and Ankiel only brought greatness in the ABT comment section with lines like “I think Ankiel just struck out in the on deck circle.”
The Uggla trade was great, Gave us what we needed.
I think the Bourn trade has been his most savvy move so far. He absolutely burned Houston and got exactly what we needed.
I think the sourness from fans on the trades and moves Wren has made comes from the players he signed/traded for not playing to their potential once they get to Atlanta. This seems to be a trend with the Braves. Let’s hope Bourn breaks that trend.
August 1st, 2011 at 5:46 pm
In fairness to Ankiel and Farnsworth, they did play to their potential in Atlanta.
August 1st, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Nate, for the record, I think it’s obvious we lost out on major production with the Yunel trade. I have that trade in the category with Lowe and KK: iffy-to-bad, but necessary.
Tyler Pastornicky could change all that, though, to a straight win for Atlanta. Here’s hoping.
August 1st, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I agree on Pasto. He has better intangibles than Yunel already. If he proves to be a solid fielder, then why not give him a shot this year. I’ve lost all faith in Gonzo.
August 1st, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Bub, I’m not even suggesting you are wrong. We brought it up in the show. It just seems that if Pence was the #1 whatever available, the Astros could have held out for more, traded him for what has been described as a better package from the Braves, or held on to him. And the players the Astros got from the Oswalt and virtually non-entities. Maybe these two A prospects are the real deal. They just don’t help the Astros any time soon.
But some of that goes out the window with us getting Bourn for nothing. No offense to Jordan Schafer.
August 1st, 2011 at 6:08 pm
I wouldn’t mind seeing us get Quentin for LF in the offseason, if Chipper does retire. (Move Prado to 3rd)
The absolute difference maker would be Kemp or Ethier, and those guys aren’t going anywhere.
In the ultimate iffiest of iffy scenarios, should El Hombre leave St. Louis, and they decide they need to start over, and we get rid of Lowe’s money, and Chipper retires, then Matt Holliday.
Alright, I’m done dreaming.
August 1st, 2011 at 6:21 pm
or, should they decide it has to be either Holliday or Pujols because they can’t afford both and then need to shop Holliday…
August 1st, 2011 at 6:23 pm
JJ is batting 8th.
August 1st, 2011 at 7:15 pm
#36 – And it’s not Proctor DFA’d, but Linebrink to the DL. Arggghhhhhh. I hope Bourn can pitch, too.
August 1st, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Can we go a week without putting someone on the DL?
August 1st, 2011 at 7:24 pm
@32
Because Gonzo is a streaky hitter who has shown he CAN handle major league hitting and CAN play a good shortstop whether he is hitting or not.
Tyler Pastornicky has shown, for 12 games, that he can handle AAA pitching. We have NO idea whether he would be intimidated by major league pitching, what he would do defensively should he slump at the plate and we can not risk that in a playoff run.
August 1st, 2011 at 7:25 pm
The Uggla trade just keeps getting better and better.
August 1st, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Mark, in all seriousness, I know he won’t get called up for this year. Most Braves spend at least a 1/2 a season in AAA before getting called up. Heyward is the only one I can remember ever making such a quick jump. But come on man, Gonza is really, really bad right now, and this bad streak is showing no signs of ending. 17 LOB IN A WEEK. I have to agree with what was said on the show, his glove does not outweigh what he does to the offense.
August 1st, 2011 at 7:45 pm
@41
You gonna play Julio?
Think his offense is going to outweigh his glove?
Want to bring back Diory? Same question…
Only chance you have is moving Prado to short and playing Brooks. Want that?
Just being realistic… Better the devil you know…
August 1st, 2011 at 7:46 pm
The only time I have seen Julio hit consistently well was from the 10th inning on…
August 1st, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Other teams have shortstops. If not, then Gonzo.
August 1st, 2011 at 7:56 pm
I just don’t see why you wouldn’t add Pastornicky when rosters expand. Let him get some pinch hits like Freddie did last year. Maybe let him start when you need to rest Gonzo.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Pastornicky will definitely be a september call up along with Gartrell.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I try so hard not to imagine the slow groundball to the shortstop right there but I couldn’t help it and it became reality.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:16 pm
@44
Yes, other teams have shortstops.
The Giants need a shortstop.
The Giants are below us in the standings and therefore will put a waiver claim on any decent shortstop that hits the wires.
So, NO SHORTSTOP FOR YOU!
August 1st, 2011 at 8:17 pm
To give credit where credit is due, that was a fantastic play by Gonzo.
August 1st, 2011 at 8:18 pm
@45
I would definitely add Pastornicky when the rosters expand.
Sorry, I didn’t realize that “then why not give him a shot this year. I’ve lost all faith in Gonzo” in @32 meant a September call-up for a few pinch hit appearances. I thought you meant to replace Gonzo with him now. My bad…