Good show guys. I know we lost yesterday, but the day absolutely felt like a total win. I’m really excited about the prospect of Bourn and his speed getting on base in front of Prado, Chipper, Mac, Freddie, and Uggla.
Curt, I remember hearing that stat on the sac flies. I think they said we had like 12 all year, at that point, and the next lowest by any other team in baseball was like 28. Sad. It just shows we’re doing a terrible job of manufacturing runs when guys get on base. It’s like every time we get someone on our guys are trying to hit a 2 or 3 run homer instead of putting the ball in play and having a solid AB.
I’m going full Steve, 5-1. Time for the young to realize they need to start owning their division like the Braves of the 90′s.
this might be slanderous, but my honest opinion on ed wade dealing with the phillies, is that he is sweet on them. i think some GM’s in the league just have better relationships with some teams than they do with others. is that wrong? well it certainly is annoying for fans of other NL teams, that the phillies can take their pick of top astros talent for lesser packages then other teams are offering, just because wade has some buddies in the philiies front office. whatever.
hunter pence is a better overall player than bourn, in my opinion, but bourn is a better fit for us. i hate that the phillies got pence, but long term, wren made the right move. he still has those big prospects he can trade for an impact player. i think this was the right thing, although it sucks that the phillies got better too.
Not understanding why some feel the Phillies gave up nothing for Pence. Yeah, low minors players are harder to predict, but that doesn’t strip them of their value as completely as some are making out.
Besides, “MLB Ready” minor league player seem almost as unsure a bet to me. Jo Jo Reyes. Kyle Davies. Brandon Jones. (And coming soon: Jordan Schafer.)
High upside low minors guys seem about as bankable as low upside high minors guys. But “seeming is not being,” so maybe I can’t properly back that up.
However, nobody in the national sports media is dismissing the Philly package in any way because of their youth. Don’t you think there’s a reason that while we sit around and say “yeah, but they aren’t squat cuz they’re low minors guys,” the rest of the sports world sees definite value, and more value than the Braves package for Bourn?
CAC’s write up on the value of the respective trade packages is a good read, too.
Unfortunately, I completely overrated Fredi Gonzalez as a smart baseball man. I give him credit because he got to where he is by having a great attitude and being a hard worker. He’s paid his dues and been at the right place at the right time. However, to put it simply I wish we just had a more intelligent manager. Fredi is so simple and unaware. No way a manger in 2011 is ignorant about how important OBP is. I refuse to believe it. batting Alex 2nd? Really?
I disagree. Who’s spot woud he take? You probably put a powerhitter in 4th or 5th. None of the hits by a 4th or 5th batter being a double would have scored anyone.
1st – 1st & 3rd – 0 Out (double-single), Freeman drove in our run with a double play, Uggla singles (anything but HR doesn’t score run), Heyward flyout.
2nd – 1st & 2nd – 1 out (single-flyout-single – powerhitter not batting here), our pitcher couldn’t bunt and the lead-off hitter grounds out.
3rd – (2-3-4 outs)
4th – 1st & 3rd – 1 out (double-out-single – powerhitter not batting 7th), 8th hitter strikes out, pitcher grounds out
5th – 1st – 1 out (error – thrown out trying to advance, single), Freeman struck out, Uggla grounded out
6th – 1st & 2nd – 0 out (single-single – powerhitter probably not batting 6th or 7th), Gonzo pops out, Boscan strikes out, Chipper strikes out
7th – 1st – 0 out (single), Prado line-out double play. Freeman singles. Uggla pops out
8th – (6-7-8 out)
9th – Ross PH strikes out, Hinske PH flies out, Constanza singles, Prado grounds out
This was just an unlucky game. We didn’t string together hits, our pitcher didn’t get bunts down, we didn’t advance runners, we had a line-drive double play with no outs and our lead-off man on first, our leadoff man was safe at first on an error and just missed making third on the overthrow, etc., etc., etc….
But, if you have the speedster at the top of the order, when he gets on, pitchers know he leads the league in stolen bases and they have to think about him…
Plus, there wasn’t a powerhitting CF available… Otherwise, where are you going to put a powerhitter?
If it is a corner outfielder, do you sssume Chipper isn’t returning?
Or when Chipper comes back, who do you bench, Prado or Heyward?
And you would still need a CF, unless you plan to put your hopes on a AAA outfielder or Schafer (if he can stay healthy) for the stretch and playoffs…
I don’t see you displacing Freeman or Uggla.
I don’t think you want to pay what it would take to aquire a powerhitting SS (and with Tyler Pastornicky doing well this year in AA and better in his first 12 games since being promoted to AAA, I don’t much see aquiring a SS in the Braves near future).
Thanks for ending 157 with your personal attack. Bub, you must be on the Braves payroll. Right? Personal friend of his? Why does someone have to agree with your observations? You go ahead and go position by position and give Wren all the credit. I personally look at his trades and find him to be average. Is that a crime? Yunel? Mclouth? Lowe’s paycheck? Giving away tex?
Giving away Frenchie?
What do yo think about aquiring Aaron Miles from the Dodgers for the bench?
Mostly plays 2B & 3B, can play short (not too well), has played OF, but not much. Switch hitter that hits LHs well (.333/.343/.439/.782) and is no slouch against RHs (.291 .316 .341 .657).
Part time player that doesn’t hit for power, but seems more consistant than Lugo…
#5 Eric, impact player in the offseason is a really good question. I really think SS is the most logical place to get a guy. This might sound funny, but I would love for the Braves to sign Jimmy Rollins. I think he could really improve this team, and really hurt the Phillies at the same time. Obviously, the price would need to be right, but I think it could possibly be a good sign.
That, or trade for one, like Stephen Drew, Asdrubal Cabrera, Johhny Pheralta, Alexi Ramierez, ect.
A decent hitting SS could make a big difference. If Pastornicky looks like he is ready, I don’t think any big moves need to be made. Cody Ross and Omar Infante might do it, along with replacing some bullpen arms.
john j, you’ve been at me personally as some kind of Wren disciple for over a week, so don’t complain of a personal attack when I fire back. In fact my appreciation for Wren has always been a mixed bag.
Walker, I just worry about Bub and want to make sure he takes his BP (blood pressure) medicine so nothing serious happens to him when someone doesn’t agree with him. Also, bugs me when someone takes a jab on last post of the week. To stay on track, Bourn trade was excellent as I mentioned earlier.
I still would like to add Right handed Wigginton (Rockies) if clearing waivers could be done. Plays everywere but P/C and a clubhouse leader. Would be an upgrade for backup at most positions to what Braves have on bench. He was available last week, don’t know about now.
Wasn’t trying to sneak in a last jab, john j. That’s just where the conversation was taking place. If I’d thought of it at all, I’d have figured you’d rather I do that than fire a fresh shot on a brand new comment section.
Also, my God, people disagree with me on here every week, and nobody shoots down my opinions more regularly than I do myself. I think you’ve gotten the wrong end of the stick about me. I’m clumsy in my wording and tone, but if I’m some kind of elitist with my views, it’s news to me. Hell, I can’t even keep the same view for more than three days. I’m not really used to anybody being pissed at my opinion because most folks laugh it off and wait for it to change, if they regard it at all. And the blood pressure checking goes both ways.
The sobering part of the Bourn trade is that this is how I felt when we got McLouth?
I think Wren has done an okay job. The Lowe/KK offseason wreaks of desperation to find pitching, and if any of you remember we couldn’t get anyone to sign with us. I think he overpaid on Lowe to keep the Mets from getting him, and we all know they would have overpaid. We were not the only club interested in KK, and there was decent buzz about him that offseason. If he gets any kind of run support, who knows, maybe things work out a little differently.
The Vazquez trade was fine with me. I’m excited about Arodys. Mike Dunn helped us get Uggla. Melky, like McLouth, didn’t play to his potential.
The McLouth trade seemed great at the time, and do some of you really think Charlie Morton had a future in Atlanta? Really? He may have Halladay’s mechanics, but Halladay he is not. Also, whatever happened to Gorkys Hernandez?
Wren gets a fail from me on his trades last July. I think Steve and Bub are the only 2 people who still like the Yunel trade, and the trade for Farnsworth and Ankiel only brought greatness in the ABT comment section with lines like “I think Ankiel just struck out in the on deck circle.”
The Uggla trade was great, Gave us what we needed.
I think the Bourn trade has been his most savvy move so far. He absolutely burned Houston and got exactly what we needed.
I think the sourness from fans on the trades and moves Wren has made comes from the players he signed/traded for not playing to their potential once they get to Atlanta. This seems to be a trend with the Braves. Let’s hope Bourn breaks that trend.
Bub, I’m not even suggesting you are wrong. We brought it up in the show. It just seems that if Pence was the #1 whatever available, the Astros could have held out for more, traded him for what has been described as a better package from the Braves, or held on to him. And the players the Astros got from the Oswalt and virtually non-entities. Maybe these two A prospects are the real deal. They just don’t help the Astros any time soon.
But some of that goes out the window with us getting Bourn for nothing. No offense to Jordan Schafer.
Because Gonzo is a streaky hitter who has shown he CAN handle major league hitting and CAN play a good shortstop whether he is hitting or not.
Tyler Pastornicky has shown, for 12 games, that he can handle AAA pitching. We have NO idea whether he would be intimidated by major league pitching, what he would do defensively should he slump at the plate and we can not risk that in a playoff run.
Mark, in all seriousness, I know he won’t get called up for this year. Most Braves spend at least a 1/2 a season in AAA before getting called up. Heyward is the only one I can remember ever making such a quick jump. But come on man, Gonza is really, really bad right now, and this bad streak is showing no signs of ending. 17 LOB IN A WEEK. I have to agree with what was said on the show, his glove does not outweigh what he does to the offense.
I would definitely add Pastornicky when the rosters expand.
Sorry, I didn’t realize that “then why not give him a shot this year. I’ve lost all faith in Gonzo” in @32 meant a September call-up for a few pinch hit appearances. I thought you meant to replace Gonzo with him now. My bad…
#50,Honestly I felt that way about Freeman with Glaus last year, but we all know that didn’t happen. Freeman was way further along than Pasto, so it’s pretty much an automatic no on the possibility of Gonzo being replaced by Pasto. The Braves really have to get more creative with nick names.
It also would not be wise to throw a 21 year old into a starting gig facing the Giants and Lincecum in October.
What is the disconnect with this offense? The starting pitching will regress in the 2nd half so our offense will have to win us this wild card. Honestly I don’t know why Hinske hasn’t been given left field full time.
Any concerns about the starting pitching going forward? If we start giving up 5 or 6 runs a game, we are in a lot of trouble. This has been going on since the break. I think we are now below .500 since then.
we need chipper and mccann back in the lineup bad.
and JJ has been a inconsistent since the all star break, but he ha had a couple of decent starts too. y’all didnt expect him to have an ERA under 2.00 for the season, did you?
the braves are in a little bit of trouble with the injuries, but they will be alright. just need to tighten up a bit. we will need a veteran like uggla to really step it up during this time…and so far he has done what he can.
Curt, let me explain…4 starts since the break…first game he gave up 6 runs in 5 innings. i was there, and it was horrible (until we won the game in a walk off). second game he gave up 4 runs in 6 innings. not great like he has been, but thats not terrible. braves won that game. then, 7 innings 1 run vs. the pirates. great start. then, we had last night. 5 runs charged in 5 innings.
so, he hasnt been completely bad. inconsistent is a better way of putting it.
Hoping McCann is back soon and at 100%. Even with Uggla as hot as can be offense sucks without Mac. Not betting Chipper will ever again be near 100%; we better get used to it.
One day 13 hits and next day 3 homers but not much to show for it. No small ball for Fredi’s team. How about manufacturing a run here and there? How about more focus on bunting, stealing, advancing a runner, hit-and-run, etc.? Too complicated for Fredi?
Would you want to be a position player batting 9th in NL? You’d be getting kidded the rest of your career.
The future for Arodys Vizcaino seems clear. The Braves moved him to a relief role several weeks ago, and they hope that he can help them out of the Atlanta bullpen down the stretch. I expect he’ll get called up at some point prior to the date that postseason rosters have to be set on August 31st. His upper-90′s heat could be huge for Atlanta as they drive towards the postseason.
Julio Teheran and Mike Minor are great insurance in case of injury to one of the starters in the Atlanta rotation. With the way Teheran has dominated triple-A at just 20-years-old (12-1, 1.90ERA, 1.073WHIP) I have to believe that the Braves will open up a spot in the Atlanta rotation this winter for the talented young Colombian. That still leaves Minor as an emergency starter and Delgado continuing to develop in 2012.
Lowe has +4.50 ERA and an OPP BA around .270. I am still dumbfounded by people who don’t believe Julio could at least replicate those numbers. We really should have unloaded him if really did have a chance to do so. Do people really think he is just going to flip a switch when September rolls around and be a dominant postseason ace? I would need to see at least 3 or 4 solid starts in a row from Derek to start believing in him again. Also, he has been impossible to move in past offseasons. How will this one be any different?
Braves are going to have to eat Lowe’s contract and have him pitch long relief in lost causes. He has nothing. They should have given him away after he pitched a couple of decent games; let’s see, when would that have been? Someone mentioned Chipper changing his contract, Lowe should give his check to charity.
braves need to get rid of derek lowe,he give up too many runs walk too many batters. if the braves plan on making a run for the pennant they can not make it with derek lowe poor performance.braves manager need to have a meeting with the players,he is not being hard on the player,if a pitcher give up 4 to 5 runs in a inning you need to take that pitcher out you can not expect the team to come back late in the game to win,it bad for the fans to see a team play so poorly.i dont like watching the braves when derek lowe is pitching,i notice all the other player do not play their best when he is pitching.braves need to start playing like playoff contender baseball,they look at too many strike and then want to complain to the umpire no need to.freddy gonzales need to stop sittin back waiting to take a pitcher out when the other team have scored 4,5,6 runs in a inning that embarrrsing to watch.so i prepared a line up for the braves.michael bourn,martin prado,chipper jones,bryan mccain,freddy freeman,dan uggla,jason heyward,luis gonlaez,then the pitcher
BTW the guy pitching for Washington tomorrow pitched for like the first time in 100 years last time against the Mets and got hammered……..time for another “Cy Young” like performance against the Braves…
Ever notice that when an umpire does not call a 3rd strike our way the next pitch something bad happens?
Sorry for the doom and gloom…..but I have a horrible cough and feel terrible.
“I don’t drink cough syrup much, but when I do, I drink NyQuil.” “Stay thirsty my friends……..”
i bet frank wren sitting back whiching that he had traded derek lowe,hotdogs $3,drinks $4 derek lowe wasted money he is the weakes length. everybody need to stop looking at strikes go by and stop swinging at dirt balls,maybe we can win some games.
They should just shut down Lowe for a couple of starts and see if he can get his control back and mechanics back through mound sessions with McDowell, Ross, Mac, Medlen, whoever. He is just getting crushed right now, and the Braves aren’t really in a position where they can be taking a guaranteed loss 1 out of every 5 games. Just like we shouldn’t be spotting teams what feels like 9-12 outs every game with our lineup. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team hit this many infield/foul territory pop ups or ground into as many DPs as these guys have in the past 10 games or so.
How much do you think game time temperature plays a part in Lowe’s success? He was good last September, when it’s still hot but cooling down, and in the cold of October. He was great in April when it there was still a nip to the air. It seems like he’s progressively gotten worse as the Summer goes by. This is a great time for someone named Bub to come through with some Lowe data on cooler months vs hot.
I don’t know how the Braves expect Heyward to do well if he doesn’t play. Hell we threw Uggla out there everyday when he sucked. Way to ruin and alienate a future superstar. And Heyward will be a star. Good luck getting that hometown discount when he becomes a free agent.
Heyward certainly isn’t helping things, but those team numbers are atrocious. Almost unbelievably bad. Joe Simpson talks all the time about great hitters who take the approach that it is the pitcher in jeopardy when the bases are loaded. The Braves sure don’t seem to take that to heart. And just the fundamental stuff. The bunts and the sac flies. It’s beyond maddening.
Remember that 6 game WC lead just a few days ago? Fredi seems to think it is still April and there is plenty of time to turn things around. He wants to experiment so he knows what to do when it really counts. Sorry, but I count Fredi as one of Wren’s screwups (Just an opinion).
John J, I have to agree with you on that one. Wren was so eager to have Fredi, that he didn’t even interview other candidates. Personally, I would have liked the Braves to sign some young 21st century whiz kid manager that knows what he’s doing.
I THINK FREDI NEED TO SEND DEREK LOWE TO THE BULLPEN TO DO RELIEF UNTIL HE CAN PROVE HE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO COME BACK TO THE STARTING ROTATION,HE IS JUST TRYING TO AIM HIS PITCHES AND HOPE THY ARE STRIKES,I ALSO THINK FREDI GONLAEZ NEED TO BE EVALUATED FOR HIS POOR COACHING HE NEED TO WORK ON TEAM BUNTING TECHNIQUE,CRACK DOWN HARD ON PLAYERS WHEN THEY LEAVE ALL THOSE RUNNERS ON BASES IN SCORING POSITIONS,ALSO THIRD BASE COACH HAD MADE A COUPLE BAD DECISION WHEN A RUNNER TRY TO TAKE EXTRA BASES AND GET THROW OUT ,SOMETIMES HE HOLD RUNNERS ON BASE WHEN HE SHOULD LET THEM GO,ALSO LOT OF THE GUYS ARE NOT HUSTLING WHEN THEY RUN TO FIRST BASE,YOU SHOULD HUSTLE DOWN THAT LINE NO MATTER WHERE THE BALL IS HIT. ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT BACK TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP IS YOU GOT TO PLAY LIKE CHAMPIONS TOGETHER,GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY COME TO THE BALL GAME FOR WE MISS CHIPPER AND BRIAN IN THE LINE UP BAD,JOHN SHEHOLZ NEED TO EVALUATE FRANK WREN DECISION ON SOME OF THE PLAYERS.
Stacy #121, You have to realize that playing a 3 hour game where you have to maybe field 4 or 5 balls on defense and then having to run to first base maybe 2 or 3 times a game is very tiring. It is particularly hard for the guys who were on the town the night before. The pay is terrible too so don’t you think it is asking a lot for a player to keep his head in the game and hustle at all times?
Heyward’s batting average dip is primarily caused by a drop in his BABIP from .335 to .247, suggesting that when he hits the ball into play, some combination of bad luck and less-solid contact (relative to last year) is causing fewer balls to drop in for hits.
Meanwhile, his on-base skills have further diminished due to a 4% decrease in his walk rate (a .040 difference in OBP), which is caused by a more aggressive approach at the plate – Heyward is swinging at more pitches both inside and outside the strike zone and missing more often. The fact that this decrease corresponds with a team-wide decrease in on-base percentage suggests that the problem may lie with the coaching staff, not the player himself.
Fortunately, luck tends to regress back to the mean, and some of Heyward’s other peripherals show promise, including his power and strike-out numbers. While Heyward is having some troubles this year, it’s far too early to give up on him.
A buddy sent me an email about Jason Heyward. Thought it was worth a read:
“I guess it’s just the curse of the ultra-talented. Average fans don’t understand how hard baseball is, how easy it is to fail, the thinness of the line that separates it from success — and how other-end-of the-bell-curve it is that he’s up and productive at all at his age. And it’s so easy for even the educated follower to forget how erosive injuries can be. A hitter’s margin of error is sooooo small — a tweaked quad, a honkin’ elbow, a weak ankle, a compensatory move here, a 2% reduction in bat speed there, an angry girlfriend and I don’t know how they ever hit the ball at all, ever, even healthy, happy, on steroids and 5 Hour Energy, which is God’s Juice of Love for us. I mean it. Hitting a hard-thrown baseball is scary as hell and really really really hard. (I just inserted third “really” there on the re-read, so you’d know I meant it.) And with movement and deception and changing speeds.”
I know that some of you don’t care for him, but, Frenchie is having a very decent year. .271, 14, 63. .327 vs lefties and .321 late/close. Could someone remind me of what we got for him? He could play on my team.
Yunel Escobar trade definitely will go down as one of the worst in Braves history. An issue of not understanding someone is not a reason to trade him. This guy will be an All Star next year. It’s not everyday you come across a young shortstop who hits for average and get on base.
Another note—- we need to get Prado going. Just saw his average was .271. The infield hit is a good start.
#152, Yeah, if he hits .300 and is our most clutch hitter for 2 years. Do you guys just ignore 2007-09, because if you do, then yeah, I hate Yunel, but if you watched the Braves from 07(late)-09 you realize Yunel was more clutch than McCann. That’s just the way it was. Go back and watch some games. Gonzo sucks compared to Yunel. Fact. People didn’t like Yunel for reasons other than baseball. This is the South. These are the Braves. There I said it. If he threw his bat half as much as Gonzo did he’d be considered a menace by ATL fans. It’s an absolute double standard. Cue the Steve, Yunel tried to murder Glaus and he’s a jerk post, which is based on no fact but reporter bs.
How can you guys say I’m glad he’s gone? How? Are u in the clubhouse? do u know what effect it had? U guys spew stuff like it’s fact when it’s speculative bs. And then when we add our opinions, that differ from yours, you act like we’re from Mars and we have no idea what’s going on? do u? do u actually know these guys? come on folks… you people know absolutely nothing on yunel. face it.
Nate, why are you so seemingly obsessed that folks agree with your opinion? Just say what you have to say and move on. It’s that simple.
I can’t help it that you and apparently others, might not don’t remember (or choose not) how he didn’t run out balls at times, called out the official scorer on errors from the field, nearly got Troy Glaus’ wrist broke on a lazy lollipop throw from short to first, would at times only talk to the press when things were going good and in general not playing ball the Braves-way. Yunel looked like he wasn’t happy, didn’t want to be there, so we moved him. It all worked out in my opinon.
As far as wondering why we can’t win a championship these days? In sport the best team does not always win. Championships are won by the team that’s playing the best ball at the time. That is why once you get into the post season all bets are off and is the reason why it’s not surprising that the wildcard team has just as much a chance to win it all over the team with the best record from the regular season.
Yunel trade was ONE of the worst. Period! A GM’s foresight has to be even better than his hindsight. Everyone can see the past (not necessarily clearly). One trade doesn’t make a career but let’s face it, this one was a mistake and we are paying for it almost daily.
I mean, if you wanna get on Frank, you can probably cite the Derek Lowe deal. Not on Derek’s dismal performance but on the risky huge salary over so many years that might have very well kept us from acquiring another few pieces with that money.
But I think just like Greg Maddux thinks on deals, trades, and contract extensions: You get paid based upon what you’ve done in the recent past, not what you are going to do. GM’s don’t, and of fans don’t when the player doesn’t perform to the consistency we paid for. But how else can one assess a player’s value other than what they have done in the past? The sad fact is, we got sattled with D-Lowe for four seasons at 60 millian bucks in Derek’s declining years.
An then there’s the KK deal which some insiders say that the Braves never even laid eyes on before the offer. My opinon on KK is: He never could cope with playing at the Major League level and it got into his head. So much so, that he could no longer pitch at this level and now (it appears) at any American professional baseball level.
I personally hate the Yunel trade. Said it at the time. Still say it now. But how many times are we going to talk about it? I’m terrible about bringing up the Tex trade and the JD Drew trade, but none of it matters right now. It’s ancient history. Those trades were made, Lonnie Smith got deked, Otis was safe, the Twins cheated, Wohlers got beat on his 3rd best pitch. Whatever. It doesn’t matter any more. It’s all over with. I hate it, but let’s focus on the problems this team has scoring runners from 3rd. The pitching in the 2nd half, etc. We can’t keep having the Yunel conversation. Turns out, it won’t change anything.
I don’t think he’s sucking on purpose. Actually this is very sad that we are benching him when he hasn’t had consistent at bat’s these last 3 days. The only solution for a player like Heyward is to keep playing him so he can work out of his slump. Otherwise don’t bench him and just send him to AAA. No need for him to be sitting on the bench. If he can’t hit lefties then keep throwing him out there against lefties. This guys our future, we have to work with him right now.
#162, Eric, I don’t care for some of your posts either. There are a lot of less than original posts here; if you don’t like em, don’t read ‘em. Like it or not, a GM, like any other executive in any business, better get more decisions right then wrong.
Also, no crime in following ex-Braves careers.
Please send some more of your “original” thoughts so we can all enjoy. I particularly like it when you quote others and THEIR original thoughts.
If I had to manage in a series against the Braves I would call up 3 guys from AAA to start each game. Then I would tell them to intentionally walk the first batter of each inning and balk twice before they throw anything decent to batter number 2.
And guys … I know that we are all psychotic, passionate fans of the team. That’s why we’re here. But let’s please keep the personal attacks off the comments board. If you want to be ugly towards others, there’s plenty of room on DOB’s blog.
Uggla just got even with Heyward on BA. Betting he will pass Gonzo next and may very well pass Chipper. Uggla is hotter then anyone in MLB. How can anyone look so bad for 3 months? Has he always been so streaky?
Walker – to expand on the Deion thing, he didn’t actually invent the chop. The chop was a long time FSU crowd thing. When Deion started playing for the Braves, the fans started doing the chop in honor of him being a Seminole.
Too bad the Thrashers didn’t have as much luck. ASG never wanted a hockey team in the first place and therefore never invested in the community (with new ice rinks, etc like the other sunbelt teams did to grow the sport).
Proctor pitched well in two or three games, getting our hopes up, then he became “a disaster”.
He has been more luck than good (see 19 inning game) when he has “looked effective”. The ONLY thing he has going for him is major league experience, which is probably what keeps him on the team. You just don’t know how a minor leaguer will react until he is there…
The thing that probably keeps Fredi “running him out there” is that Proctor has “done it before” (i.e. in baseball, you just never know when it will “click” for someone and they will get in a grove – it happened with Linebrink…to the extent you can call it a ‘grove’).
Win or lose today, the Braves look like a tired, lethargic team lacking in enthusiasm. Looks like Conrad’s biggest concern is how big of a wad he can put in his cheek; our high school team doesn’t stand there and look at strike three. They look evenly matched with the Mets.