September 18, 2011

Show #165: The Braves Continue to Tread Water

What to do with Lowe?  Is the offense improving?  Hanson versus JJ.



192 Responses to “Show #165: The Braves Continue to Tread Water”

  1. 1
    Curt Says:

    At least one of our teams can beat someone from Philly. What a game tonight. Crazy atmosphere.

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    Nate Says:

    Great win by the Falcons.

    I think all those cap tippings are gonna come back to haunt us. Too many pitching injuries to overcome. We’re below .500 in Lowe’s starts, please don’t start him in the postseason. Or are WR still waiting for him to “flip the switch”?

    It might not matter. Cards are playing really well and have a joke schedule the rest of the way. The Braves have looked terrible for a while and have 2 road series and then the Phils at home.

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    Nate Says:

    *or are we.

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    Curt Says:

    Not that it gives me confidence, or a desire for him to be in any postseason rotation, but in 2004, Lowe went 14-12 with a 5.42 in the regular season. In the postseason, he went 2-0 with a 1.98 ERA and was the winning pitcher in the series clinching games in the ALCS and the WS. That was also 7 years ago.

    Beachy is not exactly filling me with a lot of confidence right now himself.

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    Nate Says:

    Just listened to show. Great stuff, guys.

    #4, Wow, good point. I was just looking at how the team has done with each pitcher on the mound, and Minor is this year’s Medlen in terms of the team winning baseball games. Even when he’s not great he keeps us in the game. We’re under .500 when Beachy pitches, but he doesn’t give up a lot of blowouts. It’s really depressing to look at what the team was doing when JJ and Hanson we’re really going good. Fortunately Hudson has gotten stronger as the season has gone on. Lowe is terrible when he’s off his game, which he has been a lot this year. When he’s on he can shut down an offense. Regardless of what we all think, I think the team and Fredi have a lot of confidence in Lowe on the big stage, so he’s going to pitch.

    I just feel like we’re walking into a beat down in October. If we make it. My hope meter is at a 5. To quote Hammy, “The only thing going in our favor is Math.”

    We are beyond due for a good week, and please baseball gods, let it carry over into October. Please let Lowe dominate the Fish this week.

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    Nate Says:

    #2, but maybe Roddy and Julio are waiting for Lowe to flip the switch, too. Just want to reiterate how great it was to beat a Michael Vick led Philly team last night.

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    George Says:

    Say Hammy, Looks like Gonzales goes to Clean Up and Uggla moves to 6th… (jus kiddin’) had to add that jus to give Gonzo some love since he’s been hammered all yr on here. I really think he needed that rest. I think others need more rest than he’s given ’em. We could have used Hinske’s bat at other times. Why he didn’t use Hinske instead of starting Matt Diaz, I’m mystified..due to left right mix. Cox has done things significantly different than Fredi.

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    George Says:

    The Nats are playing well! Most likely do better against Marlins.

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    Steve Says:

    Bowman had a tweet this morning about overhearing someone say they think the Braves will be lucky to win the WC. He followed it with a comment (that I read as rose colored glasses with some arrogance thrown in) that he’d never heard that about a team up 3.5 with 9 to play.

    I don’t get that confidence, at all. Would anyone be surprised if we lost 2 of three against the Fish? And the Cards take 2 of their next 3?

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    Curt Says:

    What right do we have to be arrogant or confident about anything at this point? The Braves could easily go 2-7. 3-6 to finish the season. You like our chances against even Worley and Kendrick in the last series of the season?

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    Nate Says:

    @9, Not at all. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them win 5 of their last 6, either.

    The Nationals series is the one that worries me. Same with the Phillies series. Manuel might be resting a lot of people, but the guys on their bench kill us just as much as their regulars. We haven’t done much against any of their pitchers lately.

    The hitting has to come alive. I mean, this is it. We can’t go into October with an inconsistent offense that can’t get a clutch a hit. We’ve all seen how that plays out too many times.

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    Nate Says:

    When was the last time we won 3 series in a row?

  13. 13
    Nate Says:

    A month ago.

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    Leah Says:

    If we don’t completely dominate the Marlins and the NTionals I don’t want to make the Post Season. Seriously. If that makes me a bad fan then so be it.

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    Nate Says:

    #14, I’m with ya.

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    DAP Says:

    i would start minor over lowe, and i would have said that last week, too. our bullpen is dominant, and all we need is 5 good innings from someone. minor is the guy for that. lowe is giving up too much contact, even when he is getting outs. lets throw the rookies, seriously.

    the only thing working for us right now is math. great quote and absolutely true right now. if the braves go 4-5 over their last 9, cardinals have to go 8-2 to force a playoff game.

    its a good thing the braves played so great all summer, right?

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    Walker Says:

    My only hope right now is that the Braves can back into the playoffs because the Cardinals choke. Im trying to be optimistic but it’s hard. Can we at least win 2 of 3?

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Great show guys……

    I would NOT want to make the call on who to keep (JJ or Hanson). I totally think that Hanson has the lesser “long term” pitcher because of mechanics….

    When we were talking a week or so ago about the Braves could play 500 ball and the Cardinals would have to be like 15 and 2…..what happens if the braves lose 4 games in a row and the Cardinals win 4 in a row…..that would be bad right?

    ***FALCONS NOTE*** reading the blogs from Eagles fans……wow, crazy people. Sick of seeing “If Vick had stayed in the game the Falcons would have lost” Was Vick playing defence when the Falcons scored 14 points in the 4th quarter? Hey Vick….. We are pointing at the scoreboard! PLUS the hit that Ryan took in the helmet was just as bad as Robinson’s hit on the Eagles player.

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    Walker Says:

    I think it’s a no brainer on who to keep between Hanson and JJ. The braves are on a budget so it makes sense to roll with Hanson because of more control years. Not to mention the fact that he has a higher upside.

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    Leah Says:

    What if Hanson, JJ, Medlen, and Sherill all make it back in time for the post season and they’re all awesome? It could happen…

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    Anonymous Says:

    Not to sound too much like Randy Jackson, but STL is in it to win it.

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    Leah Says:

    Howsabout we walk Stanton from now until eternity. I remember when J-Jey used to hit homers.

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    Nate Says:

    @ my #5, Fredi didn’t exactly give Lowe a full endorsement for the postseason rotation. Said it was day to day.

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    Nate Says:

    Is it just me, or is this looking like the last game we played against these guys. We seem to be swinging at the first pitch a lot.

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    Walker Says:

    I HATE the Phillies even more now. All year they’ve been killing teams. Every day it seemed like they won. And now when we need them to win, they could get beat 3 out 4 at Home. What good are they?

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    Nate Says:

    Attaboy Jason.

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    Walker Says:

    I miss that swing so much

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    Leah Says:

    #25 they’re just being hateful.

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    Leah Says:

    Nicely done…the ole unintentional intentional walk.

  30. 30
    Leah Says:

    I hate baseball.

  31. 31
    Leah Says:

    But I love Dan Uggla!

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    Nate Says:

    Put one in the gap Martin.

  33. 33
    Leah Says:

    Yeah Baby! Patience!

  34. 34
    Leah Says:

    OMG, that feels good.

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    Nate Says:

    Wow. An absolute dagger by Omar. Did anyone else get the oh no feeling when Chipper lost that in the lights? It’s just unbelievable at this point.

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    Frigatedoc Says:


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    Walker Says:


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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Wake me up in 2 weeks and tell me what happened. I can’t do this anymore!

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    Walker Says:

    I’m still optimistic but at the same time I’m going to start now preparing myself emotionally for a horrible ending to the season.

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    Nate Says:

    The coaching staff has to be feeling the heat by now, regardless of what they say to the media. Our pitching is not getting it done, and our offense continues to struggle with RISP. 6-12 in our last 18.

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    Nate Says:

    Can Hudson pitch everyday?

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    Leah Says:

    I’m with Doc…wake me when it’s over.

  43. 43
    Curt Says:

    Did I mention the Falcons won?


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    Curt Says:

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  45. 45
    Frigatedoc Says:

    Braves are in control of their own destiny….BUT what about the Phillies? When have they lost 3 of 4? Are they resting guys?

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    steve Says:

    I thought my sense of doom and gloom was stout yesterday. Holy hell. This was the biggest gut punch of the year. It’s not even close. I don’t even quite believe it yet. I immdiately turned to the Charlie Sheen roast and now my mind is filled with two things I have to scrub. At least the roast is funny.

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    Leah Says:

    I seriously don’t think I can watch the rest of the season.

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    Curt Says:

    Leah, on the good side, you will only have to miss 8 more games

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    Walker Says:

    I’m with Leah. Maybe not the rest of the year but I wont watch tonight’s game or tomorrow’s game. I’ll just wait until 10 o’clock and check the Cardinals score. I have more confidence in hoping the Cardinals will lose than hoping the Braves will win.

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    Steve Says:

    C’mon guys – the Braves need you!

    OK, I don’t really believe that. I’m going to watch, but I’ll be putting my fingers over my eyes to obscure the view.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Reading through the posts to catch up. It’s like having the Cliff’s Notes to a tragedy. A Greek tragedy for sure; Shakespeare wouldn’t be this cruel.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I would trade this year’s playoffs for a new manager.

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    Leah Says:

    Bub! Where have you been? We’ve been in such a state!

    That totally sounds like Jane Austin. Skipping the BS that is the last 8 games of the season an going straight to post season literature talk.

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    ham Says:

    You can read this. I can’t really determine how it will make you feel. In the meantime, I’ll be putting hot sauce in my eyes.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    It’s pretty bad now that Gonzalez is the LEAST of our worries…

    Here is more salt for our wounds…came from

    It’s a rare loss of this sort for the Braves. They hadn’t lost a game on a come-from-behind walk-off home run with 2 outs in the 9th inning or later since June 29, 1999 when they lost to the Expos, 6-5, on a 3-run walk-off home run by Vladimir Guerrero. It’s only the 3rd such loss for the Braves since 1963 (the other was in 1980).

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, just stuck with school. Haven’t seen or listened to a game in weeks.

    By the way, thinking of a road trip to your neck of the woods with my sister to see Biltmore when the leaves change, if school calms down enough. Think you could let me know when it starts to look good? Also, a heads up on some general Asheville info (food, etc) would be appreciated.

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    Oedipus Says:

    If this is Greek tragedy, shouldn’t you guys be putting out your eyes?

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    Walker Says:

    Chipper guarantees a win tonight. Better back it up.

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    Steven King Says:

    I’m just starting the last chapter now…

  60. 60
    Steve Says:

    This is feeling pretty good. Although I can’t believe I’m worried about how a Gonzo injury may negatively impact the offense.

  61. 61
    Walker Says:

    Just checked in and I’m excited by the scores.

  62. 62
    Walker Says:

    Mike Pelfrey is no good

  63. 63
    David Says:

    I know that we love to slay Fredi Gonzalez around here, but what in the world is Tony LaRussa thinking?? He allowed a relief pitcher to walk 4 batters, including one with the bases loaded.

  64. 64
    Walker Says:

    Forgive LaRussa, he was probably a little wasted.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Gotta give the Cardinals credit…. They are playing great baseball

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    Steve Says:

    How freaking big is Lowe’s start tonight? Mammoth. Both for the WC race and the prospects of success in the post season. As big as last night was, this one is just as big or bigger.

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    Anne Says:

    Having grown up in the East Bay and having the A’s stadium literally in sight from my backyard, I’m looking forward to Moneyball. I wish the promo wouldn’t be every other commercial, though.

  68. 68
    Leah Says:

    …Brad Pitt + baseball=yummy.

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    Leah Says:

    Bub, leaves are just starting to change. Mid October is the peak season I believe. Boone is a great little town as is Black Mountain. Other than that Ashville is where I go to see the Avett’s play. That’s all I really know.

    Did y’all know the Avett Brothers are awesome?

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Steve…..TOTALLY AGREE. I just hope he makes it through the first inning!

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Is Liván Hernández pitching against us when we play the Nats? Please say it isn’t so!!

    Has anyone seen the new “Miami Marlins” logo? It is the worst logo I have ever seen in sports.

    Saw that Freddie Freeman is the first rookie to hit 20 homeruns since a guy named Chipper did it. BTW that guy Chipper did not win ROY. Some guy named Nomo did. Where is Nomo now?

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    Curt Says:

    Apparently Matt Diaz cost us something called Eliecer Cardenas. A single A player with a 27.00 ERA.

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    Curt Says:

    Doc – to your point:

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    Nate Says:

    Are they joining the WNBA?

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    Anne Says:

    DOB tweeted today about Chris Medlen and his rehab…totally forgot he existed.

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    Steve Says:

    Wow – just saw the Marlins logo. It really is terrible. It doesn’t look like baseball colors, that’s for sure. And so uninteresting.

    This will be just like the Braves. Get a better than decent start from the biggest question mark on your staff and still not win. Sigh.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    My postseason “hopemeter” is a – 5

    We WILL lose tonight and the Cardinals are playing too good to lose.

    The Cardinals still play the Cubs and the Astros….

    We play the Nats and Phillies……

    Put a folk in it…….

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    Nate Says:

    Time to get Chipper involved in this game, no?

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    Curt Says:

    how pathetic that we have series remaining against two of the worst teams in the NL and we have no faith

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    Leah Says:

    The Rev will be at the game in St. Louis in Friday night right behind the Cards dugout. I told him cheer for the Cubbies like there’s no tomorrow or don’t come home.

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    Leah Says:

    I don’t think I can watch 2 out in the 9th.

    1) Mac can’t see
    2) Cards will win tonight
    3) please pass the Tums!

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    David Says:

    How’s that chant go?

    Let’s go METS!! Let’s go METS!!


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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Curt? “two of the worst teams in the NL”


    The Phillies? (Even though they are playing poorly)

    The Nats…….they OWN us

    It’s the Cardinals who have the worst teams in the NL remaining……

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    Oedipus Says:

    I was referring to this series with the Marlins and now the Nats. Of course, not the Phils. Although, they can’t beat anyone right now – until they come to Atlanta.

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    Curt Says:

    That was me

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    13 losses in 20 games……….

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Like the Tweet said…….can’t blame it on Lowe. I am with Leah……McCann can’t see

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    Walker Says:

    PLease to GOD that the Cardinals lose tomorrow. We cannot face Strasburg with a 1 game lead. This team is so sad.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    McCann’s vision problems still haven’t been properly diagnosed. The man almost definitely has ocular rosacea, which is highly responsive to sugar and caffeine levels, but also other things such as heat, light, blood sugar level, spices, dairy products, carbohydrates, and food temperatures. It is treatable with special drops. It is a highly elusive diagnosis due to most optomitrist’s inexperience with the condition. Glasses and contacts often fail because the vision level doesn’t stay the same as it is at the time of the eye test. It comes and goes and in all different degrees.

    David O’Brien thinks I’m a nut and won’t pass it along. But when it comes out ten years from now that the Braves lost out on success and McCann lost millions, just know that one internet fan had the damn cure in the palm of his mouse all along…

    Brian’s symptoms match perfectly. His mild facial redness, his Irish blood, the intermittent nature of the problem, the trouble with the contacts, the improvement from stopping energy drinks (caffeine and sugar) the day/night difference, and most tellingly, the failure of his optomitrist to track it down.

    End of useless rant. Somebody take a sign to a game or something.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    p.s. the squinting is also indicative. Ocular rosacea forms a film over the eye lens which is responsive to squinting which sometimes moves the film out of the way.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    p.p.s. For the record, I could be wrong. But if I’m right, then for the record, I never doubted myself.

    Stupid DOB…

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    Walker Says:

    Wow Bubdylan. We seriously need to find some way for this information to get to the clubhouse. Have you tried tweeting Medlen or Moylan? Does Smoltz have a twitter?

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Not a bad assessment Bubdylan and certainly a good differential diagnosis…..I’ll bet Frenchy would tell him if you got it to him.

    Does anyone remember him squinting when he was a rookie? I thought he had lasix a few years ago?

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    Leah Says:

    We could take a sign to the ballpark but of course he couldn’t see it. I’m gonna tweet it to as much of Braves country as I can find. And…guys…it’s over. Not gonna make it to this post season. Hope meter is at a negative 100.

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    David Says:

    94 — sadly, I’m with you on the hope meter being waaaayyy down. Playing against Washington gives me the willies — although I’m really relieved that Livan Hernandez isn’t scheduled to pitch against us. (What’s wrong with him anyway? He hasn’t pitched since Sept. 4.)

    A huge question for this offseason if we don’t make it to the playoffs: Does Fredi get a pass or the axe? If we don’t make it, I think it’s because of injuries to Hanson and Jurrjens — which aren’t really the fault of Fredi.

    On the other hand, it seems that he’s done what Francona did with the Red Sox — i.e., that both managers sent the message that their teams just need to play out the rest of the season, they’ve got it locked up, they’re focusing on the playoffs.

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    David Says:

    Also, I’m sure y’all saw DOB’s tweet last night — “Whaddya think, #Braves fans, might be time to fly ‘6’ up to DC to fire up the squad?”

    Not sure if that was DOB or Carol, but either way, that would hugely undermine Fredi Gonzalez and his position as leader and manager of the team.

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    Pure Says:

    CoolStandings now shows Atlanta’s playoff percentage at 63.9% 🙁 It was at 99% a few weeks back.

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    Curt Says:

    In all fairness, the Braves have broken our hearts in every conceivable fashion, but an epic collapse, so maybe they felt like they owed us. Just to finish off our Braves gut punch memorabilia collection. They should make a commemorative plate series. Time Life or the Franklin Mint can put them out.

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    Curt Says:

    Plate 1 featuring Charlie Leibrandt and Lonnie Smith

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    Curt Says:

    Order now. Operators standing by. Supplies won’t last.

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    Walker Says:

    Plate 2: Scenes from the 1999 World Series

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    Walker Says:

    Oh and a special thanks to Leo Mazzone for being a tattle tell. From now on people will discredit the Braves 90’s rotation.

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    ham Says:

    I love the commemorative plate series. Plate 3: Lonnie Smith.

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    Nate Says:

    Plate 4: Rocker shouting obscenities at Mets fans.

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    Steve Says:

    Plate 5: Wohlers in the foreground, Leyritz at the plate.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Plate 6: Hampton vs. Lowe which one have the Braves the most for their money?

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Sorry…..GAVE not have duh

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    Leah Says:

    Okie Doke Mr. Dylan. I’ve done the deed. Of course they will all overlook my plea until they see whose tweet it is and then they’ll quickly respond with great concern.

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    Curt Says:

    Ed Sprague and Jeff Reardon have to be in there somewhere.

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    Curt Says:

    Phils fans mockingly doing the chop, and giving the Braves the bird in the process.

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    Nate Says:

    Plate 7 is the “This acquisition would have been better 7 years ago” plate. It features Raul Mondesi, Reggie Sanders, Vinny Castilla, Ken Caminiti, and Troy Glaus

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    Curt Says:

    See also “The Steroid Collection”

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    Nate Says:

    There has to be a “Now I’m a Royal Plate(s)”

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    Nate Says:

    “the backup catcher” plate features Damon Berryhill, Eddie Perez, Charlie O’Beien, Henry Blanco, another picture of Eddie Perez, and Corky Miller.

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    Leah Says:

    #113 made me laugh heartily.

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    Curt Says:

    From Mark Bradley:

    The good news: Lefthander Chris Capuano is starting for the Mets, and he can be effective. The bad: He has won only twice in his past nine starts, and both victories, wouldn’t you know, were against the local nine. So the Braves have that going for them, which is … not really nice.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    This was posted on 10 Sept:

    To tie the Braves would need to go 8-9 and the Cardinals would need to go 9-2.

    Since then?
    Braves are 4-7
    Cardinals are 9-2


  118. 118
    Frigatedoc Says:

    Sorry…..Cardinals would need to go 15-3.

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    Anonymous Says:

    Pop quiz:

    The worst team in baseball right now is:
    A) the Braves
    B) whoever is playing the Cardinals
    C) I can’t really answer right now because I am too busy wandering aimlessly into oncoming traffic

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    Leah Says:

    D) all of the above and I just stabbed myself in the eye.

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    Walker Says:

    Wow 1 game lead and 6 games left. Strasburg tomorrow.Put up or shut up.

    To get into the playoffs sweeping the Nationals is a MUST. Hopefully the Cubs win at least one game vs. the Cardinals. Then we go into the Philly series with a two game cushion. This is the only scenario I see us getting into the dance.

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    Nate Says:

    If I take anything away from this it will be that resting essential pieces of your team before you’ve clinch anything is a HUGE mistake. Especially when you’re playing without 2 of your 3 best pitchers. If we miss the postseason Fredi Gonzalez should be fired next Thursday. He obviously cannot get these guys to play for him.

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    Pure Says:

    God bless the Mets! Leading now 8-6!!!

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    Walker Says:

    Thank You mets!!!

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    Walker Says:


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    Chris Says:

    I’ve never been a Mets fan more than I am now lol. Wow what a comeback, 6 runs in the 9th, I would of never guessed that! Is the Cardinals luck finally running out? Let’s hope so! And let’s beat Strausburg!! GO BRAVES!!

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Wow! It’s about time Willie Harris started to Harrass somebody else for a change!

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    Pure Says:

    Proctor is pitching for the Yankees right now. He just gave up a walk, a single, and TWO HOME RUNS! Sounds very familiar.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Best game the Braves didn’t play all year.

    This game could kill the Cards and revive the Braves. Huge huge night!!!!

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    Steve Says:

    Agreed about the comeback. Unbelievably huge. And, FINALLY, a gut punch for the Cards. We must keep this momentum and win tomorrow night.

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    Pure Says:

    Funny how we built momentum by not playing. Maybe we should not play more often.

  132. 132
    Walker Says:

    @131 Greatest comment ever

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    128: How in the world do the Yanks take back Proctor? Who’s proctor’s agent??

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    Pure Says:

    In the 9th inning of that Mets-Cardinals game, several ex-Braves had great contributions. Furcal made a crucial error, and Harris drove in the go-ahead runs. Omar Infante didn’t get the memo earlier this week.

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    Leah Says:

    Things like this make it very difficult to continue my pessimism. Quick Curt…a little help?

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    Nate Says:

    Last year’s Hudson vs. Strasburg was one of the best games of the year. I’m hoping for a repeat performance.

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    Curt Says:


    The Braves have been nearly as cold (7-13 since September 2) as the Cards have been hot, but the Braves could go 2-4 the rest of the way and the Cardinals would have to go 5-1 to win the wild card outright. If the Braves split their remaining schedule, 5-1 would only force a playoff game. This race isn’t over, but the Cardinals’ chances just got a lot slimmer.

    Read more:

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    Walker Says:

    Hopefully the game gets rained out so we wont have to face Strasburg. Double headers seem to serve us well.

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    Steve Says:

    Moylan injured. Hanson pulled after 2 innings today because of scapula pain and he’s now definitely not pitching in the Phillies series. And Gonzo still injured. Effing eff!

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    Pure Says:

    Dammit. I just heard about all the injuries too. The baseball gods arent happy with us right now. But let’s just imagine how sweet it would be the win the WS in spite of it all.

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    Walker Says:

    Great start

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Certainly is sad when in the last five days, the only time the Braves gained ground in the Wild Card race was the day they didn’t play…

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    Steve Says:

    GREAT START. Way to keep the momentum of yesterday and not let it slip away.

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    Pure Says:

    Wasn’t it no-brainer to pull Hudson after he obviously tweaked his neck/shoulder?

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    Curt Says:


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    Steve Says:

    I’m worried about Jonny, still.

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    Leah Says:

    Speed is a factor.

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    Will Says:

    Cubs 4-1 in the 8 th … Cmon

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    David Says:

    Holy shnikies, the Cubs are up 4-1 in the bottom of the 8th! I’m sure that the Cubs would love to stand in the way of their division rivals at such an important time in the Cards’ season. 3 games up with 5 left to play?!?!? Yes, please.

    And holy shnikies, I hope that Hudson’s okay. Cause if his injury/aggravation is a lingering one and he can’t pitch in the NLDS, then it’s Lowe and the rookies with an exhausted bullpen behind them. YIKES. Please Jeff Porter, work your magic as the team’s trainer and make sure Huddy’s okay!

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    Leah Says:

    Anybody else having trouble with MLB.TV? Driving me crazy tonight!

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    Anne Says:

    Cubs win! Cubs win!

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    Leah Says:

    Huddy’s ok! Only cramping. I’m sure you know that since we all read the same tweets but I had to tell someone!

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    Walker Says:

    Crazy that Moylan could be out all of next year too.

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    Steve Says:

    Bought my NLDS game 4 tux last night. This is happening.

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    Steve Says:

    While it’s true that I will be wearing a tuxedo to the game, I did mean “tix”.

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    Leah Says:

    I canNOT stop watching Bourn steal home. LOVE THAT CLIP!!!! Steve…I’m jealous. I wish I had plans to watch the Braves in the NLDS while wearing formal attire.

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    Leah Says:

    Ankiel didn’t get the memo…

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    Leah Says:

    Don Sutton needs some allergy meds.

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    Nate Says:

    Beachy has a bad habit of putting himself in a hole. Frustrating game so far.

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    Nate Says:

    The good news is the Cubs are winning.

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    Pure Says:

    Son of a Beachy. What the hell is going on here?

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    Nate Says:

    Does Mac call the pitches, or are they signaled from the dugout?

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    Pure Says:

    For the trivia – Is Jason Kendall still considered an active player? He’s out until 2012.

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    Pure Says:

    Otherwise the trivia answer should be Posada, even though he hasn’t caught in a long while.

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    Walker Says:

    Can Marmol be anymore predictable? That was literally the exact scenario I had go though my mind before he took the mound. If I was a GM of a MLB club no way would I want a wild closer. Sure there can be alot of strikeouts but walking the entire planet is just not worth it.

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    Curt Says:

    What a stupid day of baseball.

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    Steve Says:

    These momentum swings are brutal. I just knew we were going to win today and look good doing it. My faith is gone again.

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    Walker Says:

    Tomorrow is a must win. We cant afford to go into the Philly series with a 1 game lead. There is no reason a playoff team cant put up 5 runs on Ross Detwilder.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    I guess the Bravos are gonna walk us down the tightrope in true Braves fashion.
    My making-it-to-the-post-season hope meter is about a zero. The Cards have Houston to go beat up next and we have the Philles who are going to get up for us despite having lost six straight.

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    Steve Says:

    Folks, our hosting provider got hacked last night. As we fix things, the site may be up and down (it may also be completely fine). Just wanted everyone to know.

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    Pure Says:

    Sheesh. We can’t score with bases loaded and no out — and we had top of the order batting.

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    john j Says:

    Unless the Braves can wake up their hitting, you can make plans to get your post season ticket refunds and cancel that tux. The off season focus will be to trade some pitching for some bats.

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    john j Says:

    Can anybody on this team hit the baseball in pressure situations?

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    john j Says:

    It is almost a joke that the Braves homepage has multiple articles about who will be available to pitch in the post season. JJ, Medlen, Sherrill? Pitching is NOT their problem.

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    john j Says:

    Heyward’s award this year is making USA’s Top 10 disappointments of the year in MLB. Who could argue?

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    john j Says:

    175 referred to “USA Today”

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    Walker Says:

    Castro gives the Cubs the Lead. This time keep it.

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    Pure Says:

    Furcal home run. Kill me now.

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    Pure Says:

    Show #166: The Braves Can’t Hit the Side of a Barn as they Crawl to the Finish Line. WC lead at 1. Post-season hope meter at an all-time low. Medlen the only good sign of the week.

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    Walker Says:

    So we have to sweep the Phillies to get into the playoffs. Hope meter-1

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Braves do not deserve the post season.

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    Nate Says:

    I hope they clean house with this coaching staff. Time to start with some new guys with some new ideas. Being a player’s manager just doesn’t seem to work with this group of players. I feel like we have the second most talented 40 man roster in the NL, yet we haven’t won back to back series since mid-August. Doc is right with post #181, the Braves don’t deserve postseason baseball. Also, out of all the teams in the NL, the Cardinals probably have the best shot at beating the Phillies.

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    Nate Says:

    Just turned on the Falcons game. Can any Atlanta team play to their potential?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Maybe this organization just doesn’t have what it takes.

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    Pure Says:

    Misery loves company. I’m watching the Red Sox.

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    john j Says:

    As many have said all year, this is a poorly managed team. Braves didn’t come out of Florida with players coached to bunt, move up runners, manufacture runs or anything else. The fact that they have a lot of “talent” or that famous baseball word, “potential”, doesn’t mean much. They are playing their worst baseball of the year and do not belong in the playoffs. No matter how good your pitching is, you can’t win games without runs.

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    john j Says:

    PS: a lot depended on Prado, Heyward, McCann and the addition of Uggla. Uggla and McCann (Get your vision checked) played half seasons and Heyward and Prado were busy reading how good they were. The foundation of this team is pitching; they need to keep most of it but everyone else is expendable except Freeman. I’ll repeat that the Lowe contract is one of the worst ever given by the Braves (he is a number 4 pitcher making $15mil). The fact that the Braves are even in the running for a WC is a strong argument against expansion of the playoffs which would put even weaker teams in the running.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    If misery loves company, you’d think the Braves could sell more tickets.

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    john j Says:

    #182, you are right. Talent wise, second best. Peaking at the right time, they rank last. How many mediocre pitchers have they made look like Sandy Koufax this year?

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    Steve Says:

    #179 – It really does much of the work for us tonight …

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    Steve Says:

    On the bright side, our website hosting provider, who’s two freaking jobs are to keep the lights on and NOT GET HACKED by some goofball in India is working perfectly. Wait, what?!?!?

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    Steve Says:

    An article about it:

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