I think all those cap tippings are gonna come back to haunt us. Too many pitching injuries to overcome. We’re below .500 in Lowe’s starts, please don’t start him in the postseason. Or are WR still waiting for him to “flip the switch”?
It might not matter. Cards are playing really well and have a joke schedule the rest of the way. The Braves have looked terrible for a while and have 2 road series and then the Phils at home.
Not that it gives me confidence, or a desire for him to be in any postseason rotation, but in 2004, Lowe went 14-12 with a 5.42 in the regular season. In the postseason, he went 2-0 with a 1.98 ERA and was the winning pitcher in the series clinching games in the ALCS and the WS. That was also 7 years ago.
Beachy is not exactly filling me with a lot of confidence right now himself.
#4, Wow, good point. I was just looking at how the team has done with each pitcher on the mound, and Minor is this year’s Medlen in terms of the team winning baseball games. Even when he’s not great he keeps us in the game. We’re under .500 when Beachy pitches, but he doesn’t give up a lot of blowouts. It’s really depressing to look at what the team was doing when JJ and Hanson we’re really going good. Fortunately Hudson has gotten stronger as the season has gone on. Lowe is terrible when he’s off his game, which he has been a lot this year. When he’s on he can shut down an offense. Regardless of what we all think, I think the team and Fredi have a lot of confidence in Lowe on the big stage, so he’s going to pitch.
I just feel like we’re walking into a beat down in October. If we make it. My hope meter is at a 5. To quote Hammy, “The only thing going in our favor is Math.”
We are beyond due for a good week, and please baseball gods, let it carry over into October. Please let Lowe dominate the Fish this week.
Say Hammy, Looks like Gonzales goes to Clean Up and Uggla moves to 6th… (jus kiddin’) had to add that jus to give Gonzo some love since he’s been hammered all yr on here. I really think he needed that rest. I think others need more rest than he’s given ‘em. We could have used Hinske’s bat at other times. Why he didn’t use Hinske instead of starting Matt Diaz, I’m mystified..due to left right mix. Cox has done things significantly different than Fredi.
Bowman had a tweet this morning about overhearing someone say they think the Braves will be lucky to win the WC. He followed it with a comment (that I read as rose colored glasses with some arrogance thrown in) that he’d never heard that about a team up 3.5 with 9 to play.
I don’t get that confidence, at all. Would anyone be surprised if we lost 2 of three against the Fish? And the Cards take 2 of their next 3?
What right do we have to be arrogant or confident about anything at this point? The Braves could easily go 2-7. 3-6 to finish the season. You like our chances against even Worley and Kendrick in the last series of the season?
@9, Not at all. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them win 5 of their last 6, either.
The Nationals series is the one that worries me. Same with the Phillies series. Manuel might be resting a lot of people, but the guys on their bench kill us just as much as their regulars. We haven’t done much against any of their pitchers lately.
The hitting has to come alive. I mean, this is it. We can’t go into October with an inconsistent offense that can’t get a clutch a hit. We’ve all seen how that plays out too many times.
i would start minor over lowe, and i would have said that last week, too. our bullpen is dominant, and all we need is 5 good innings from someone. minor is the guy for that. lowe is giving up too much contact, even when he is getting outs. lets throw the rookies, seriously.
the only thing working for us right now is math. great quote and absolutely true right now. if the braves go 4-5 over their last 9, cardinals have to go 8-2 to force a playoff game.
its a good thing the braves played so great all summer, right?
I would NOT want to make the call on who to keep (JJ or Hanson). I totally think that Hanson has the lesser “long term” pitcher because of mechanics….
When we were talking a week or so ago about the Braves could play 500 ball and the Cardinals would have to be like 15 and 2…..what happens if the braves lose 4 games in a row and the Cardinals win 4 in a row…..that would be bad right?
***FALCONS NOTE*** reading the blogs from Eagles fans……wow, crazy people. Sick of seeing “If Vick had stayed in the game the Falcons would have lost” Was Vick playing defence when the Falcons scored 14 points in the 4th quarter? Hey Vick….. We are pointing at the scoreboard! PLUS the hit that Ryan took in the helmet was just as bad as Robinson’s hit on the Eagles player.
I think it’s a no brainer on who to keep between Hanson and JJ. The braves are on a budget so it makes sense to roll with Hanson because of more control years. Not to mention the fact that he has a higher upside.
The coaching staff has to be feeling the heat by now, regardless of what they say to the media. Our pitching is not getting it done, and our offense continues to struggle with RISP. 6-12 in our last 18.
I thought my sense of doom and gloom was stout yesterday. Holy hell. This was the biggest gut punch of the year. It’s not even close. I don’t even quite believe it yet. I immdiately turned to the Charlie Sheen roast and now my mind is filled with two things I have to scrub. At least the roast is funny.
I’m with Leah. Maybe not the rest of the year but I wont watch tonight’s game or tomorrow’s game. I’ll just wait until 10 o’clock and check the Cardinals score. I have more confidence in hoping the Cardinals will lose than hoping the Braves will win.
It’s pretty bad now that Gonzalez is the LEAST of our worries…
Here is more salt for our wounds…came from espn.com
It’s a rare loss of this sort for the Braves. They hadn’t lost a game on a come-from-behind walk-off home run with 2 outs in the 9th inning or later since June 29, 1999 when they lost to the Expos, 6-5, on a 3-run walk-off home run by Vladimir Guerrero. It’s only the 3rd such loss for the Braves since 1963 (the other was in 1980).
Leah, just stuck with school. Haven’t seen or listened to a game in weeks.
By the way, thinking of a road trip to your neck of the woods with my sister to see Biltmore when the leaves change, if school calms down enough. Think you could let me know when it starts to look good? Also, a heads up on some general Asheville info (food, etc) would be appreciated.
Bub, leaves are just starting to change. Mid October is the peak season I believe. Boone is a great little town as is Black Mountain. Other than that Ashville is where I go to see the Avett’s play. That’s all I really know.
McCann’s vision problems still haven’t been properly diagnosed. The man almost definitely has ocular rosacea, which is highly responsive to sugar and caffeine levels, but also other things such as heat, light, blood sugar level, spices, dairy products, carbohydrates, and food temperatures. It is treatable with special drops. It is a highly elusive diagnosis due to most optomitrist’s inexperience with the condition. Glasses and contacts often fail because the vision level doesn’t stay the same as it is at the time of the eye test. It comes and goes and in all different degrees.
David O’Brien thinks I’m a nut and won’t pass it along. But when it comes out ten years from now that the Braves lost out on success and McCann lost millions, just know that one internet fan had the damn cure in the palm of his mouse all along…
Brian’s symptoms match perfectly. His mild facial redness, his Irish blood, the intermittent nature of the problem, the trouble with the contacts, the improvement from stopping energy drinks (caffeine and sugar) the day/night difference, and most tellingly, the failure of his optomitrist to track it down.
End of useless rant. Somebody take a sign to a game or something.
We could take a sign to the ballpark but of course he couldn’t see it. I’m gonna tweet it to as much of Braves country as I can find. And…guys…it’s over. Not gonna make it to this post season. Hope meter is at a negative 100.
94 — sadly, I’m with you on the hope meter being waaaayyy down. Playing against Washington gives me the willies — although I’m really relieved that Livan Hernandez isn’t scheduled to pitch against us. (What’s wrong with him anyway? He hasn’t pitched since Sept. 4.)
A huge question for this offseason if we don’t make it to the playoffs: Does Fredi get a pass or the axe? If we don’t make it, I think it’s because of injuries to Hanson and Jurrjens — which aren’t really the fault of Fredi.
On the other hand, it seems that he’s done what Francona did with the Red Sox — i.e., that both managers sent the message that their teams just need to play out the rest of the season, they’ve got it locked up, they’re focusing on the playoffs.
In all fairness, the Braves have broken our hearts in every conceivable fashion, but an epic collapse, so maybe they felt like they owed us. Just to finish off our Braves gut punch memorabilia collection. They should make a commemorative plate series. Time Life or the Franklin Mint can put them out.
The good news: Lefthander Chris Capuano is starting for the Mets, and he can be effective. The bad: He has won only twice in his past nine starts, and both victories, wouldn’t you know, were against the local nine. So the Braves have that going for them, which is … not really nice.
Wow 1 game lead and 6 games left. Strasburg tomorrow.Put up or shut up.
To get into the playoffs sweeping the Nationals is a MUST. Hopefully the Cubs win at least one game vs. the Cardinals. Then we go into the Philly series with a two game cushion. This is the only scenario I see us getting into the dance.
If I take anything away from this it will be that resting essential pieces of your team before you’ve clinch anything is a HUGE mistake. Especially when you’re playing without 2 of your 3 best pitchers. If we miss the postseason Fredi Gonzalez should be fired next Thursday. He obviously cannot get these guys to play for him.
I’ve never been a Mets fan more than I am now lol. Wow what a comeback, 6 runs in the 9th, I would of never guessed that! Is the Cardinals luck finally running out? Let’s hope so! And let’s beat Strausburg!! GO BRAVES!!
In the 9th inning of that Mets-Cardinals game, several ex-Braves had great contributions. Furcal made a crucial error, and Harris drove in the go-ahead runs. Omar Infante didn’t get the memo earlier this week.
The Braves have been nearly as cold (7-13 since September 2) as the Cards have been hot, but the Braves could go 2-4 the rest of the way and the Cardinals would have to go 5-1 to win the wild card outright. If the Braves split their remaining schedule, 5-1 would only force a playoff game. This race isn’t over, but the Cardinals’ chances just got a lot slimmer.
Holy shnikies, the Cubs are up 4-1 in the bottom of the 8th! I’m sure that the Cubs would love to stand in the way of their division rivals at such an important time in the Cards’ season. 3 games up with 5 left to play?!?!? Yes, please.
And holy shnikies, I hope that Hudson’s okay. Cause if his injury/aggravation is a lingering one and he can’t pitch in the NLDS, then it’s Lowe and the rookies with an exhausted bullpen behind them. YIKES. Please Jeff Porter, work your magic as the team’s trainer and make sure Huddy’s okay!
Can Marmol be anymore predictable? That was literally the exact scenario I had go though my mind before he took the mound. If I was a GM of a MLB club no way would I want a wild closer. Sure there can be alot of strikeouts but walking the entire planet is just not worth it.
I guess the Bravos are gonna walk us down the tightrope in true Braves fashion.
My making-it-to-the-post-season hope meter is about a zero. The Cards have Houston to go beat up next and we have the Philles who are going to get up for us despite having lost six straight.
I hope they clean house with this coaching staff. Time to start with some new guys with some new ideas. Being a player’s manager just doesn’t seem to work with this group of players. I feel like we have the second most talented 40 man roster in the NL, yet we haven’t won back to back series since mid-August. Doc is right with post #181, the Braves don’t deserve postseason baseball. Also, out of all the teams in the NL, the Cardinals probably have the best shot at beating the Phillies.
As many have said all year, this is a poorly managed team. Braves didn’t come out of Florida with players coached to bunt, move up runners, manufacture runs or anything else. The fact that they have a lot of “talent” or that famous baseball word, “potential”, doesn’t mean much. They are playing their worst baseball of the year and do not belong in the playoffs. No matter how good your pitching is, you can’t win games without runs.
PS: a lot depended on Prado, Heyward, McCann and the addition of Uggla. Uggla and McCann (Get your vision checked) played half seasons and Heyward and Prado were busy reading how good they were. The foundation of this team is pitching; they need to keep most of it but everyone else is expendable except Freeman. I’ll repeat that the Lowe contract is one of the worst ever given by the Braves (he is a number 4 pitcher making $15mil). The fact that the Braves are even in the running for a WC is a strong argument against expansion of the playoffs which would put even weaker teams in the running.