November 02, 2011

Show #169: Braves Start Their Off Season Moves

Looking back at the WS.  The Awards Season.  Hinske and McLouth.  And the Derek Lowe trade.



179 Responses to “Show #169: Braves Start Their Off Season Moves”

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  1. 51
    Curt Says:


  2. 52
    Nate Says:

    Taking Prado away from our roster just depletes the club’s potential so much. Prado has earned his 5 million. Give it to him. In 2010, between Prado and Infante, we had 2 guys in our lineup who could fill in at any position, except CF and C, without significant drop-off in offensive or defensive production. That was so huge. Please Wren, don’t trade Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen.

  3. 53
    Curt Says:

    I think the worst part now is that it feels like a foregone conclusion. Reading the posting that they are really efforting to get rid of him, it’s very disheartening. At some point, all this movement is going to catch up with them.

    And on the business side, coming off an epic collapse, it doesn’t seem like the best time to dump a fan favorite for some young, unproven outfielder.

  4. 54
    Nate Says:

    Curt, do you think MLB will let Cuban own a team? I’ve heard he’s been denied by Selig in the past.

  5. 55
    Nate Says:

    What do you think the return is on Prado? A LF with a lower ceiling than Prado and a prospect?

  6. 56
    Curt Says:

    DOB thinks they might not. And that the other owners might not want him either because he would be over the top and would, shudder the thought, be willing to lose money to build a champion. I think it would be a great kick for baseball which needs one. DOB also pointed out that Steinbrenner was as bombastic as they get and threw money around like no one’s business, and will end up in the HOF. Apparently, Cuban was sniffing around the Dodgers, but the $1.2 billion asking price was too much for even him. Expect the Braves to sell for less than half of that.

    As a Braves fan, I couldn’t want him more. A guy committed to winning. Willing to spend money, and continue to spend money, to win a ring. And a guy who would bring people to the stadium just to see him. Ted Turner, anyone? Bring it on as quickly as possible. I just read that the Falcons payroll is the 3rd highest in the NFL, so Arthur Blank might not be the guy right now. Just someone who wants to win. Anyone. Occupy Turner Field. Fight the power.

  7. 57
    Walker Says:

    Why is it ok for David Glass to only use his team as a ATM machine but Mark Cuban isn’t allowed to actually want to win. It’s time for Selig to go.

  8. 58
    Walker Says:

    Well I just did my part by tweeting (begging) Cuban to buy the Braves. As if this will work.

  9. 59
    David Says:

    I’m with y’all on the Phillies signing Papelbon to 4 years and $50 million. He turns 31 in a couple weeks, and that’s a ton of money to put into a closer. Glad to hear that they’re doing it.

    He’s coming off a great year, though — even though the 31 saves are a career-low for him, he posted career-best numbers in Ks and WHIP. In spite of those, I still say this is not a good free agent signing, and if the Braves had signed him, even though I’d honestly be very excited, I’d also be a bit skeptical.

  10. 60
    Nate Says:

    #42, Walker, I’m starting to think Pasto might be our opening day SS. I thought Carroll would have been a good fit: solid defensively and can be a utility infielder when Pasto’s ready. Looks like he’s off the table now, and none of the FA SS are looking to sign a 1 yr deal.

  11. 61
    Nate Says:

    On the Sun Sentinel website fans are given an opportunity to rate the Marlins’ new unis as either Great, Good, or God-awful. God awful has received 74% of the vote and great and good are tied with 13%. At least their fans are behind it… The only thing more obnoxious than those uniforms is Papelbon in a Phillies uniform. Is the Papelbon reminding anyone of the K-Rod deal? Hopefully it will by midseason 2012.

  12. 62
    Curt Says:

    At least Madson is gone.

  13. 63
    Steve Says:

    “At least their fans are behind it… ” Love it.

    The K-Rod deal is the perfect comparison of failure.

  14. 64
    Nate Says:

    Wilson Ramos, Nats C, has been found alive and well. It’s nice to get a bit of good news from the sports world.

  15. 65
    john j Says:

    Talk here in Colorado is for a Prado for Seth Smith trade. I follow both teams but feel Prado has much more upside as full time player. Smith has only proven to be solid platoon outfielder. Rockies would have to throw something else in.

  16. 66
    Curt Says:

    Seth Smith? If the Braves make that trade I seriously might stop doing this podcast. He’s terrible. I mean seriously? At some point last year he was batting like .082. And it was in the series when they came to Atlanta or we were out there. He had been sent down to AAA and had just been called back up. To try and perpetrate that trade on us as fans, for a guy a season removed from being our MVP, see Escobar, Yunel, is a terrible idea and deeply offensive to me.

  17. 67
    Curt Says:

    Apologies. I was thinking of Ian Stewart. Still….Seth Smith? He hit 15 homers playing half his games in CO. Is that the answer.

    Oh wait, there it is, he makes $429k. The only numbers the Braves seem to think about.

  18. 68
    Nate Says:

    Speaking of running a team poorly, the Marlins are pondering Hanley Ramirez and Jose Reyes on the same side of the infield. Should be a huge success

  19. 69
    Nate Says:

    How have they won 2 World Series? (rhetorical. I don’t need an unpleasant reminder)

  20. 70
    john j Says:

    Curt (67). no apology necessary. Smith? Stewart? What’s the difference? Rockies have done terrible job of developing their young players (exception being TuLo). I am Braves fan first and would hate to see Prado go for either or, worse yet, both.

  21. 71
    David Says:

    From everything I’ve read, if the Braves did trade Prado for Seth Smith, it’d also include a prospect, possibly CF — Charlie Blackmon or someone not named Dexter Fowler. I’m with y’all in that I’d rather not see the Braves do that. Seth Smith is good, but he’s almost 30 years old, he’s left-handed, and for some reason I think he’d wind up being another Ryan Church/Nate McLouth/Melky Cabrera for us — an outfielder with promise that, for whatever reason, comes to Atlanta and we get nothing out of them.

    I’ve also read that if Miami signs Jose Reyes, Hanley would play CF, not 3B. How’s that for a head-scratcher? I also don’t think Reyes makes them a contender — he’s got lots of health issues, after all.

  22. 72
    David Says:

    More on the outfield — we have not had a consistently strong outfielder in quite some time. Probably since Andruw left. If the Braves trade for an outfield bat, I’d really like for it to be a proven guy and not someone who has shown some flashes of promise while getting 300 at-bats a season.

  23. 73
    Nate Says:

    Lol, I took that from a Hanley comment. Of course, as it turns out, the Marlins have a much worse option in mind. Hilarious. Thanks, David. Too funny.

  24. 74
    Walker Says:

    Whatever the marlins do, 2012 will definitely be a harder season for the Braves than 2011. Every team except the Mets in the NL East will improve and we have to face the AL East for interleague. We will have to again count on our pitching staff heavily.

    Questions to our position players:

    Heyward- What is wrong with you?
    Prado- Who are you really?
    McCann- R u ok?
    Chipper- 40? Really?
    Uggla- Did you know its ok to play well all year long? Have you checked your UZR lately? How was the porn star?
    SS- Who will be playing you?
    Freddie- Do you know what a sophmore slump is? I hope you don’t.
    Bourn- Are you ready for a big payday?

    Fredi- Are you stupid?

  25. 75
    David Says:

    #74 — those are hilarious. i’d suggest some of these to go along with ‘em:

    Prado – please don’t kill us when you play against us.
    Hanson – come on man, please?
    Jack Wilson – if you’re not gonna contribute offensively, at least bring some Quizno’s subs that you were advertising back in the day. “We love these suuuubs!”
    Fredi – (in addition to “Are you stupid?”) Ya know, the Cubs are interviewing for a manager…would you like their contact information?

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