November 02, 2011

Show #169: Braves Start Their Off Season Moves

Looking back at the WS.  The Awards Season.  Hinske and McLouth.  And the Derek Lowe trade.



179 Responses to “Show #169: Braves Start Their Off Season Moves”

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  1. 126
    Steve Says:

    And would the Braves really take Nunez for JJ? His errors were pretty horrendous last year.

    #107 – I’ve hated the inequity of interleague as it’s been executed so far (getting stuck playing the AL East, for example). That said, I have no idea if it would be a balance interleague schedule in the new world. Has anyone read that?

  2. 127
    David Says:

    126 — Steve, quit being such a hater. You need to take a cue from Ham and Curt’s positivity with baseball things. Sheesh.

  3. 128
    Bubdylan Says:

    Fredi’s a moron.

  4. 129
    Steve Says:

    Bub – long time no see? What is Fredi a moron about now? Or was that just a general statement?

  5. 130
    Steve Says:

    I encourage everyone to read the latest blog on the site from Vinnie (WE the People). Great stuff in my opinion.

  6. 131
    Steve Says:

    I was (and I think Ham and Curt, too) very convinced that Gonzo would be back next year. But just saw that they didn’t offer him arbitration and he will likely be gone. Who will our SS be on Opening Day?!?!

  7. 132
    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, just a joke that misfired.

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

  8. 133
    David Says:

    131 – my guess is Jack Wilson, with Pastornicky getting a shot at full-time by the middle of the year. I see no sexy, exciting shortstop signing or trade for us this offseason, but of course thats just my two cents.

  9. 134
    Steve Says:

    Um… Yikes.

    ATLANTA – Atlanta Braves right-handed pitcher Tim Hudson underwent successful surgery today to repair a herniated disc in his back. The procedure was performed by Dr. Steven Wray at Piedmont Hospital in Atlanta, Ga. The injury, which had been bothersome for Hudson over the last two seasons, became progressively worse during his off-season workouts.“Based on today’s procedure, we are happy that this will help alleviate some of the discomfort that Tim felt,” said Braves Executive Vice President and General Manager Frank Wren. “The prognosis is positive for him to be ready for Spring Training and to be able to pitch during the Spring Training schedule.”

  10. 135
    Curt Says:

    Thank god for the extra WC slot

  11. 136
    Walker Says:

    After hearing Bobby Valentine talk all season on ESPN, I truly feel bad for Red Sox players and fans.

    On another note I’m loving the show Clubhouse Confidential on MLB Network. It’s crazy to think there are so many people who ignore sabermetrics. It’s so anti intellectual and ignores actually facts and data on performance.

  12. 137
    john j Says:

    Just letting you all know that nearly every day there is something in the Denver Post about the Rockies still actively after Prado for Seth Smith and a second level prospect. The Braves would be NUTS to trade Prado for a platoon outfielder. IF Braves can get some combination of Fowler/Smith/and,or Blackmon, it MIGHT make sense. Rockies are trying to unload the guys with “potential” that they have not been able to develop.

  13. 138
    Anne Says:

    How is THIS not breaking news?
    When do pitches & catchers report, again? Happy Holidays, everybody!

  14. 139
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Interesting idea:

    Trade JV?

  15. 140
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Another interesting idea:

    Minor/Lowrie trade: Who says no?

    Read Keith Law’s review of Minor @ 50:

    Top 50 MLB players age 25 or under

  16. 141
    Walker Says:


    Excuse my language, but HELL NO.

  17. 142
    Walker Says:

    Are we in the business of winning or avoiding paying players what they are worth? If the Braves want to win the World Series, Johnny Venters needs to be on this team.

  18. 143
    Nate Says:

    I don’t think we sniff the playoffs in either 2010 or 2011 without Venters or Prado. If you trade guys like that, you better be getting something really good in return. If the Braves trade current All-Star caliber talent for platoons and prospects they will not make the playoffs in 2012. When I saw Seth Smith a good fit for the Braves on the Braves ajc page I almost turned into Curt.

    The “we feel comfortable with Pastornicky as our opening day SS” is complete poker face stuff. We should have a very unexciting veteran SS by the end of these meetings.

  19. 144
    Nate Says:

    What if you could do two deals with a combination of JJ, Prado, Venters, Pastornicky, and Minor and end up with a power hitting LF and a SS who is major league ready, All-Star material, and under contract for at least 2 years. Would you do it? Who cares? It ain’t happening.

    I am at the point where I hope we do nothing. None of these rumors sound like they make the Braves better now. But in the end all they’re only rumors…

  20. 145
    Nate Says:

    We are long overdue for some Bub’s words of wisdom. A perspective I miss. Hope all is well man.

  21. 146
    john j Says:

    I can see trading JJ, Prado and/or Minor IF, and only IF, we improve the team. JV and Pastornicky should not be traded. The Pastor will soon be preaching as the Braves starting SS.

  22. 147
    john j Says:

    Oh, I WOULD include JV, JJ and Prado for Rockies’ CarGo (with or without Smith).

    Rockies fill 3 spots; Braves get an outstanding outfielder for years to come.

  23. 148
    Nate Says:

    “The Pastor will soon be preaching as the Braves starting SS.” Nice.

    #146, who would you rather have, Tulo or CarGo?

  24. 149
    Walker Says:


    That’s giving up too much. It’s not value for value. A #2 Major League starter, dominant setup man and versatile player who could easily hit .300. Nope.

  25. 150
    Travis Says:

    Prado and jj for cargo..cargo in the middle of our lineup would be great

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