It’s interesting (though not surprising) how FW is really downplaying the Braves interest in doing anything and then you see other writers reporting that there are large numbers of teams interested in JJ and Prado.
I recognize that I am so jaded as to make the worst cynic blush, but the article that was posted on FB by Steve covering DOB’s interview with Frank Wren at the winter meetings disgusted me. His complete disconnect with reality. His continuing with this nonsense that the only move the Braves have to make is to get a veteran back-up SS. It’s insanity. I know they are trying to move Prado and JJ to get a big left fielder or center fielder when they inevitably let Bourn walk, but come on. If the Marlins do land Pujols, and the Nats land Buerle? All we need is a veteran back-up SS? Besides Smith, the only name I have seen mentioned was the AAA/rookie CFer from KC in a move for both Prado and JJ. That simply isn’t going to cut it. The continued direction of this team is agonizing. Read 1000 of my other rants. Sorry to repeat myself. You simply aren’t building a champion.
#154 — I think that Wren is purposely operating this winter with everything very close to the vest. We’re probably only hearing a fraction of what the Braves are actually trying to do.
And, y’all said it yourselves on the show — the biggest improvement for this team would be for the current players to improve on this year’s performance. For Hanson to come back healthy, Heyward and Prado to bounce back, McCann to avoid hitting below .200 for 3 months, and Fredi to not drive the bullpen into the ground by mid-August. As a team, we have the players that can take our team to the playoffs — if they play up to their potential.
In Wren’s defense. I actually agree with not going to crazy with making trades just to make trades. We are actually pretty set. I want to go into 2012 with Prado our everyday LF. He’s had one bad half season with us. We can’t make any long term SS acquisitions because of Simmons and Pastornicky. I’ve said it before but, the only way I would make a trade is if there are any power right handed outfielders available. But there are none. I would suggest that Wren focuses on improving the bench and deepening the bullpen.
Walker, I totally agree about not wanting the “move just to make a move” move. And I think the Seth Smith thing is just that. We have a need and a player who is going to make marginally more money, you have a platoon left fielder. Perfect. Who cares if our player is an AS, a fan favorite, a player favorite, our team MVP one season removed, we need to move salary and we need a platoon left fielder. Make it happen.
I hope this tenure of rash decisions, see the last couple of years, hasn’t cost us legitimate shots at major pushes into the post-season. There are only so many player dumps one team can survive.
We need to get another left-handed reliever, imo, preferably one much better than George Sherrill.
I’m in the same mindset as Walker about Prado. I think you keep him unless you are offered a player you can’t turn down. I don’t want to lose him for prospects and a platoon in LF.
I feel like the Braves would be okay trading JJ for prospects and some bullpen or bench help. You’re taking from an area of major strength (starting pitching) on the team and improving areas where we struggled late(bullpen) and something we pretty much sucked at all year- good play off the bench. I also wouldn’t mind it if we got a good outfield bat for JJ, and Martin could then be the super utility guy again.
Latest rumor — now that the Rockies have traded Huston Street and have freed up money, they’re interested in trading for Jurrjens. DOB suggesting that while Prado wouldn’t be enough for Seth Smith AND a CF prospect, JJ might be.
I don’t know about y’all, but I’d welcome that. We’d have a Prado/Smith platoon in LF, a CF for if (when) Bourn leaves after 2012. On days when Smith starts in LF, Prado could play 3B and give Chipper a day off. We’d have a rotation of Hudson, Hanson, Beachy, Minor, and Teheran/Delgado as well as money to spend on a backup SS or relievers.
I really don’t like them having Reyes, Bonifacio, and Infante. They’ve got a really solid lineup now, especially if Ozzie can do as he says and get Hanley to be his guy. I’m guessing they have Gabby at 1st, Omar at 2nd, Reyes SS, Bonifacio 3rd, Coughlin CF, Stanton RF, and Morrison LF. Where does Hanley play, Ozzie?
Olney mentioned yesterday that they would be better off taking that money they want to give Pujols and investing it in their pitching…
I like their lineup better than ours, but I still think they have a ways to go before their pitching staff gets up to par with the Braves and Phillies. I might like our lineup better if our guys play to their potential, but we all know how that goes. Prado and Heyward will have a great year and we’ll have 2 new candidates for a season long slump funk. That’s just the way it goes for Los Braves.
Signing Pujols to a 10 year 250 million dollar contract would be great only for the first 5 years. Then you would end up paying 25 million dollars to a 40 year old hitting .255 with 18 HR.
I don’t understand why the Marlins would offer 220 million to Pujols but wont offer 200 million to Fielder. Hes younger, left handed and you would get more value out of his contract. With that said I hope they don’t do it.