Show #169: Braves Start Their Off Season Moves
Looking back at the WS. The Awards Season. Hinske and McLouth. And the Derek Lowe trade.
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December 5th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Nice rumor round up from Talking Chop tonight:
http://www.talkingchop.com/2011/12/5/2614032/lots-of-atlanta-braves-trade-rumors-finally
It’s interesting (though not surprising) how FW is really downplaying the Braves interest in doing anything and then you see other writers reporting that there are large numbers of teams interested in JJ and Prado.
December 6th, 2011 at 8:02 am
If we go into this season with Pastornicky and a Seth Smith/Diaz platoon, I quit.
December 6th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Re the 10 year offer they’ve put on the table… it would be absolutely mind-blowing if Pujols actually signed with the Marlins. I don’t believe it, but it would be nothing short of crazy.
December 6th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
#151 – A real possiblity, I’m afraid.
December 6th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
I recognize that I am so jaded as to make the worst cynic blush, but the article that was posted on FB by Steve covering DOB’s interview with Frank Wren at the winter meetings disgusted me. His complete disconnect with reality. His continuing with this nonsense that the only move the Braves have to make is to get a veteran back-up SS. It’s insanity. I know they are trying to move Prado and JJ to get a big left fielder or center fielder when they inevitably let Bourn walk, but come on. If the Marlins do land Pujols, and the Nats land Buerle? All we need is a veteran back-up SS? Besides Smith, the only name I have seen mentioned was the AAA/rookie CFer from KC in a move for both Prado and JJ. That simply isn’t going to cut it. The continued direction of this team is agonizing. Read 1000 of my other rants. Sorry to repeat myself. You simply aren’t building a champion.
December 6th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
#154 — I think that Wren is purposely operating this winter with everything very close to the vest. We’re probably only hearing a fraction of what the Braves are actually trying to do.
And, y’all said it yourselves on the show — the biggest improvement for this team would be for the current players to improve on this year’s performance. For Hanson to come back healthy, Heyward and Prado to bounce back, McCann to avoid hitting below .200 for 3 months, and Fredi to not drive the bullpen into the ground by mid-August. As a team, we have the players that can take our team to the playoffs — if they play up to their potential.
December 6th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
#155 – While I agree that the Braves may not do much this winter, I also agree with David that Wren is not being forthcoming with what the Braves plans really are.
December 6th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
IF
December 7th, 2011 at 12:20 am
In Wren’s defense. I actually agree with not going to crazy with making trades just to make trades. We are actually pretty set. I want to go into 2012 with Prado our everyday LF. He’s had one bad half season with us. We can’t make any long term SS acquisitions because of Simmons and Pastornicky. I’ve said it before but, the only way I would make a trade is if there are any power right handed outfielders available. But there are none. I would suggest that Wren focuses on improving the bench and deepening the bullpen.
December 7th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Walker, I totally agree about not wanting the “move just to make a move” move. And I think the Seth Smith thing is just that. We have a need and a player who is going to make marginally more money, you have a platoon left fielder. Perfect. Who cares if our player is an AS, a fan favorite, a player favorite, our team MVP one season removed, we need to move salary and we need a platoon left fielder. Make it happen.
I hope this tenure of rash decisions, see the last couple of years, hasn’t cost us legitimate shots at major pushes into the post-season. There are only so many player dumps one team can survive.
December 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
We need to get another left-handed reliever, imo, preferably one much better than George Sherrill.
I’m in the same mindset as Walker about Prado. I think you keep him unless you are offered a player you can’t turn down. I don’t want to lose him for prospects and a platoon in LF.
I feel like the Braves would be okay trading JJ for prospects and some bullpen or bench help. You’re taking from an area of major strength (starting pitching) on the team and improving areas where we struggled late(bullpen) and something we pretty much sucked at all year- good play off the bench. I also wouldn’t mind it if we got a good outfield bat for JJ, and Martin could then be the super utility guy again.
December 7th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Latest rumor — now that the Rockies have traded Huston Street and have freed up money, they’re interested in trading for Jurrjens. DOB suggesting that while Prado wouldn’t be enough for Seth Smith AND a CF prospect, JJ might be.
I don’t know about y’all, but I’d welcome that. We’d have a Prado/Smith platoon in LF, a CF for if (when) Bourn leaves after 2012. On days when Smith starts in LF, Prado could play 3B and give Chipper a day off. We’d have a rotation of Hudson, Hanson, Beachy, Minor, and Teheran/Delgado as well as money to spend on a backup SS or relievers.
December 7th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
NOT happy about the Buehrle signing. The Marlins needed starting pitching and they just got it. Buehrle and Josh Johnson at the front of that rotation is pretty formidable.
December 8th, 2011 at 12:47 am
I really don’t like Mark Buehrle.
December 8th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I really don’t like them having Reyes, Bonifacio, and Infante. They’ve got a really solid lineup now, especially if Ozzie can do as he says and get Hanley to be his guy. I’m guessing they have Gabby at 1st, Omar at 2nd, Reyes SS, Bonifacio 3rd, Coughlin CF, Stanton RF, and Morrison LF. Where does Hanley play, Ozzie?
Olney mentioned yesterday that they would be better off taking that money they want to give Pujols and investing it in their pitching…
I like their lineup better than ours, but I still think they have a ways to go before their pitching staff gets up to par with the Braves and Phillies. I might like our lineup better if our guys play to their potential, but we all know how that goes. Prado and Heyward will have a great year and we’ll have 2 new candidates for a season long slump funk. That’s just the way it goes for Los Braves.
December 8th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Pujols to Angels. Wow. 10yr/250M.
December 8th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
The American League is just the place for that kind of contract.
December 8th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Wow
Morales
Pujols
Wells
Hunter
Trumbo
Bourjous
Ayabar
Kendrick
December 8th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
And Alex Gonzalez just signed with the Brewers.
Now I know how Cardinals fans have been feeling all day.
December 8th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Days like this remind me of how poor the Braves are. Where do teams like the Angels, Yankees and Marlins get all this money? I feel even worse for the Pirates and Rays.
December 8th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
How crazy is this? They both left money on the table. I like it, frankly. Because, seriously, why would you want to play for the Marlins:
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/08/c-j-wilson-if-it-was-about-the-money-id-be-a-florida-marlin/
December 8th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Signing Pujols to a 10 year 250 million dollar contract would be great only for the first 5 years. Then you would end up paying 25 million dollars to a 40 year old hitting .255 with 18 HR.
I don’t understand why the Marlins would offer 220 million to Pujols but wont offer 200 million to Fielder. Hes younger, left handed and you would get more value out of his contract. With that said I hope they don’t do it.
December 8th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
I think they left money on the table because they didn’t want to wear the Marlins hideous new uniforms.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:19 am
#167, they’re saying Morales might be done. Career ended by walk off grand slam.
December 9th, 2011 at 2:33 am
And by “they’re” I mean baseball tonight, TIFWIW.
I like how John Kruk is skeptical on every deal the Phillies don’t make.
The Angels will like that deal for 6 years and hate it for 4. Injury prone future + DH is no bueno for 25M/yr average salary.