March 12, 2012

Show #174: Braves Continue to Flounder

Too early to panic?  Is Bourn worth the money?  Is Hudson?  Is John Morosi right in his Fox Sports article?

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  1. 1
    carlos Says:
    March 12th, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Who ever says that these games don’t count should be kicked in the face. The Braves are a bad team right now and it feels like they didn’t learn anything from last year’s collapse. I went from being super excited to turn over a new leaf for the 2012 season to being totally devastated…I don’t know what else to say.

    At least this show was good, as always, the only good thing related to the damn braves.

  2. 2
    Walker Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 3:23 am

    From a Sporting News article:

    The 39-year-old Jones is dealing with the effects of surgeries on both knees over the years (“I’ve got no meniscus in the right knee,” he said). He has already missed five exhibition games this spring with leg soreness.

    Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2012-03-12/braves-chipper-jones-says-end-of-career-is-near#ixzz1oylgLvci

    Sigh. How many games can we get from him this year?

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    Walker Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 3:25 am

    From Chipper:

    “If I play in a certain amount of games, I got an option for next year. I don’t know what next year entails,” Jones said. “I don’t know if I can make it through this year.”

    Really Chipper?

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    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Did he not see this coming? Honestly? I’m amazed that he came in and allowed the team to believe that he would be able to provide them something, and here we are in spring training and he might retire before the season starts. Given time, they could have at least made some plan to cover for it. And given Prado more work at third in the meantime. I’m shocked, and yet not surprised, by this news.

    And Carlos, bad would be 3 or 4 wins. They are awful.

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    Nate Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Great stuff from our leader. I stand by everything I said in the offseason about Chipper making way too much money. I also got criticized for saying we’d be lucky if he plays 100. At this point it looks like both of those comments were entirely accurate.

    Paying a 38-40 year old player 14 million a year, paying Lowe 15 million/year, giving Yunel to the Blue Jays for nothing, these are all moves that are still hurting the Braves. Maybe next year they finally stop hurting us. Maybe we can have some money to go out and pay players that will actually contribute in a positive way. Right now, the vibe around this team is terrible.

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    Steve Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    Great show, guys. Sorry to miss it.

    For what it’s worth, from DOB last night about Chipper’s comments:

    it’s real, but probably not as dire as it sounds. I mean, I don’t see him retiring now or during season. I think he’ll get through it. But the knee is worse than it’s been, which is why he couldn’t play for five days after the opener. It looks like he’s past the worst of it, though, for now. He’s played a few days in a row, not doubled over in pain or limped off field, etc.

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    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Glad our metric is “doubled over in pain”

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    Nate Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 11:57 am

    I guess we’re going with a Hinske/Diaz platoon in LF when Prado is playing 3rd.

  9. 9
    fermie125 Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Curt, I believe the phrase you were looking for is “world’s tallest midget”, as in, “Adding Michael Bourne’s base stealing to the Braves is like saying you are the world’s tallest midget.”

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    Nate Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    What does it mean when a manager is on probation?

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    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Fermie125 – that might be correct. there is something with a three legged cat though. I swear.

  12. 12
    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Apparently none that are printable.

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    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Good one Chipper. Because we want our leader joking about the fact that he is in so much pain he might have to retire. Backed up by scouts who say he looks awful…

    http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120313&content_id=27244272&vkey=news_atl&c_id=atl

  14. 14
    Steve Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    I think Chipper is a straight shooter and I take him at his word, BUT… This response feels like spin control on his part. When it gets tweeted by Rosenthal and Heyman, it was going to be a huge distraction.

  15. 15
    john j Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    If Presidential candidates say the wrong things, what makes anyone think that a baseball player is going to phrase things perfectly? Chipper is ONE player on a team that is about TEN players short of being a competitor. What Chipper says is about as important to the big picture as is what Newt says.

    Wren is counting on EVERYTHING falling into place this year; what are the odds of that happening? EVERYONE recovers from injuries. EVERYONE plays up to their potential. PROSPECTS evolve into MLB players. COMEBACKS by disappointing players. Players that had great years, REPEAT or IMPROVE.

    We all got to dream of success in the off-season, we get to see things develop in March, and we will get a dose of reality in April. Right now, just don’t bet the deed to the ranch on EVERYTHING falling into place. Enjoy the game of baseball and watch the young stars while they are still in Atlanta. Braves have a good product and miracles do happen.

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    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Listening to these spring training games is like losing a race to a 3 legged cat.

    Lineup in right now is pretty similar to our projected starting one.

    Bourn – 0-3, .240
    Prado – 1-4, .407 (just hit into inning ending DP with tying run on 3rd in the 8th)
    McCann – 1-3, .200
    Uggla – 1-3, .286
    Freeman – 0-3, .143
    Diaz – 0-3, .174
    Heyward – 0-3, 2Ks, .148
    Pastornicky – 0-3, .103

    Beyond pathetic

  17. 17
    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    4 hits, 1 run

  18. 18
    Kate Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    At least we didn’t lose.

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    Steve Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    It just seems impossible that we’re dealing with stories about how bad the Braves are in Spring Training?!?!? There aren’t stories like this about teams in March. How have the Bravos gone so far off the rails, so quickly, that THIS is the local AND national conversation about the team? 28 other teams are enjoying the optimism of March and we’re getting stories about our manager being on the hot seat on March 13?!?! Unbelievable.

  20. 20
    Bubdylan Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    The good news: I get to keep internet after all.

    The bad news: I get to keep internet after all.

    Hey, at least my paranoid dream of the team turning into a soap opera before May was clearly an overreaction.

  21. 21
    Curt Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Reality bites

  22. 22
    Bubdylan Says:
    March 13th, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Choosing who to scoff at between Chipper and DOB is like choosing between Godfather I and Godfather II. I can’t do it.

  23. 23
    Steve Says:
    March 14th, 2012 at 9:59 am

    #20 – Fair point.
    #22 – True. It’s like shades of the Hudson thing a few ST’s back. There were some tweets from Chris Dimino yesterday (local radio guy who’s buddies with Chipper) about how DOB wasn’t there when the comments were said. I know that’s not the biggest deal, I mean it was said to two national guys, but it casts a pall over it in some way. All of that said, go back and read Chipper’s exact quotes. None of it sounds tongue and cheek. Pretty straight forward in my opinion.

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    Will Says:
    March 14th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    FYI, I listened to the show last night from Changsha, Hunan province, where Mao Tse Tung went to high school. I have to say that only the air pollution in China is more depressing that the Braves right now.

    Later I responded to Curt’s spam email to get people to join his ponzi NCAA brackets. He then explained that I needed to send him money because Davidson, my alma mater, is in the dance. Steve Curry had some game, and put Davidson on the map, so Im now thinking this could be fun. Maybe its the year of obscure college teams. I have watched that Jeremy Lin vs. the Lakers hilight clip about 10 times.

    For me, Davidson was losing at basketball and football. Basically ignoring basketball and football, really. Chasing after girls who wore Birkenstocks. Still managing to drink too much, but studying all day and all night. This is the hilight reel of me at Davidson:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

  25. 25
    Curt Says:
    March 14th, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    That’s Steph Curry, not Steve.

    Send my $$$$$$$$$

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