March 25, 2012

Show #176: The End of an Era

A whole lot on Chipper, a little on JJ, a little less on Vizcaino, and no Steve.  Again.



116 Responses to “Show #176: The End of an Era”

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  1. 26
    Bubdylan Says:

    Nate McLouth & Derek Lowe both having great springs. Maybe it’s the culture here?

  2. 27
    CantHearYouPeach Says:

    Loved the last show and discussion of Chipper’s HOF credentials. Just wondering, if he hadn’t been a switch hitter but had same stats would he be in HOF? Also, any way to get the show on Sticher?

  3. 28
    Bubdylan Says:

    How many baseball teams, would you guess, have longer current championship droughts than the Braves’ 16 year drought?

    How many teams would you guess have zero championships?

  4. 29
    Kate Says:

    Running through the teams in my head (while at work) I came up with 19 teams have a longer drought and 7 have never won. How close am I?

  5. 30
    Bubdylan Says:

    Seriously? In your head? Well, that’s impressive. Both are correct. Come on, though: seriously??

    Never won:


    Longer droughts (years)

    Blue Jays (18)
    Rockies (20)
    Twins (20)
    Reds (21)
    Athletics (22)
    Dodgers (23)
    Mets (25)
    Royals (26)
    Tigers (27)
    Orioles (28)
    Pirates (32)
    Mariners (35)
    Brewers (43)
    Nationals (43)
    Padres (43)
    Astros (50)
    Rangers (53)
    Indians (63)
    Cubbies (103 – yeesh)

    btw, that was taken off a trivia site and I had to correct to errors that I saw myself, so there could be any number of mistakes in it.

  6. 31
    Bubdylan Says:

    *correct two errors

  7. 32
    Kate Says:

    Well you missed the Rays on your never won list. I missed the Mariners on mine.
    And yes seriously in my head. I can’t remember some family members birthdays but I can name WS winners. I don’t know if I should be proud or sad.

  8. 33
    Leah Says:

    Is it bad that I forgot Buddy was a Brave until today? Does that make me a bad fan?

  9. 34
    David Says:

    #24 – you and I are in agreement on the playoffs. Here’s what I think they ought to do, and they could do this as soon as next season when the Astros make the switch to the AL:

    – Form 2 15-team leagues; do away with divisions.
    – The top 4 or 5 teams from each league receive playoff berths.
    – Playoff system:
    A) with 4 teams: 3 rounds of playoffs — 2 in each league, World Series
    B) with 5 teams: seeds 4 and 5 play a 3-game series to determine the “number 4” seed, and then you’ve got 3 rounds of playoffs from there.

    So — essentially, you’re getting rid of the “division winner is guaranteed a playoff spot” and only taking the top 4-5 teams in each league.

    The fact that a team could have a rather mediocre record and still win their division while two other wild card teams — with better records than said division winner — duke it out means that it’s a poorly-designed playoff system.

    For example: in 2006, the St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series with a season record of 83-78. Because they played in a weak division, they were automatically guaranteed a playoff spot — while a team with a better record (the Phillies, at 85-77) were denied a spot. Now, while I don’t exactly mind that the Phillies didn’t get in, it’s not a good system. In fact, it’s idiotic and asinine.

    By the way, the Mets were the only NL team with over 90 wins in 2006. That’s astounding.

  10. 35
    Bubdylan Says:

    #34 – those plans sound much better to me than the current system.

  11. 36
    Anne Says:

    Just listened to the show. Brave in NY – I hope this alleged new baby is named “Larry Wayne.”

  12. 37
    Bubdylan Says:

    I saw “alleged new baby” and “Larry Wayne” and thought, oh no, what now? 8)

  13. 38
    Walker Says:



    There isn’t reason for alarm until you see “alleged new baby” , “Larry Wayne” and “Hooters” in the same sentence. lol

    I still love you Chipper.

  14. 39
    Steve Says:

    #27-canthearyoupeach, welcome to the board. Great screen name, btw. I think Chipper is still a HOF’er even if he wasn’t a switch hitter. The longevity + the career avg/obp/slg + homers would get him in. Also. Yes on Stitcher. I plan to get that done by Opening Day.

  15. 40
    Steve Says:

    Speaking of Opening Day. The whole 1st game in Japan that’s 8 days prior to the real OD is just silly.

  16. 41
    Curt Says:

    As is a $2 billion price for the Dodgers. On what planet are the Dodgers, or any sports team for that matter, worth $2 billion. And if that is where the going rate of baseball teams is headed, who will ever be able to buy the Braves from Liberty? They’ll end up being run by a hedge fund.

  17. 42
    Nate Says:

    I have a bad feeling that all of these young starting pitchers are about to ruin our bullpen. We almost need the ‘pen to finish every game after the 6th inning, and in some games they will be called on in the 6th or earlier.. I don’t feel good about Hanson, JJ, Beachy, Minor, or Delgado getting past the 6th inning on a consistent basis.

  18. 43
    Walker Says:

    The Braves are the only major mlb team of the south (Florida doesn’t count). You would think there would be some Jerry Jones type that would love to own this team.

  19. 44
    BRAVEinNY (Matt) Says:


    Anne- I don’t think I can get away with naming the kid “Larry Wayne” but maybe I can take a que from Chipper and name it “Citi Field.”

  20. 45
    Leah Says:

    I like Freddie Freeman.

  21. 46
    Bubdylan Says:

    Sweet catch by Heyward to rob a homer.

    Also sweet homer by Heyward to tie it up. Good to see.

  22. 47
    Bubdylan Says:

    Announcers in today’s game were talking about how, being in the Braves clubhouse earlier, the players were talking about how much they were ready get Spring over with and get going with the season.

    Here’s Albert Pujols’s response to that same question:

    “Maybe if you’d asked me that seven years ago I would have said, ’Yeah, I’m ready. Let’s go.’ But you learn in this game not to worry about tomorrow. When the time comes, then you think about it. Every day, your focus needs to be on trying to learn something, to get better.”

  23. 48
    Anne Says:

    I accept “Citifield” – awesome. Congrats, Matt!

    Also love that I of all people didn’t intend the use of “alleged child” and “Chipper” in the same post as hilarious.

  24. 49
    Bubdylan Says:

    Well, add Rosenthal’s voice to the chorus. Another writer thinks it’s 4th place for the Bravos.

    At least he has us as the 17th best team in baseball. Yeesh.

  25. 50
    Walker Says:

    I think people are overrating the Marlins. Im more scared of the Nationals. I guess they don’t like our rotation for some reason but at least we have 5 solid guys that give us a chance to win. Add to that a full season of Bourn and improvements by Uggla, Prado, and Heyward. 4th place just doesn’t seem right.

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