April 08, 2012

Show #178: Nightmare Start for the Braves

The significance of the sweep.  Should Fredi go?  And Good Signs/Bad Signs of the week.

 

 

219 Responses to “Show #178: Nightmare Start for the Braves”

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  1. 26
    Shaun Says:

    Right, Steve. Seemed more like a PR move than a decision based on any sort of evidence, because the results were quite good under TP. Or perhaps the team just didn’t feel it was worth dealing with the distraction of the vocal fans calling for TP to go.

    All teams are going to have up and down stretches. I’m not sure if there is anything to indicate that the Braves offense was more up and down under Pendleton than was any other team’s offense. If a team is scoring runs, and is consistently among the league leaders, there’s probably no need to change hitting coaches.

    If a team consistently contends but is streaky, I think it would be unreasonable to fire the GM, manager and revamp the front office because of the game-to-game results. The nature of baseball is that it can be a streaky game.

  2. 27
    Bubdylan Says:

    Ozzie Guillen … *facepalm*

    Okay, so there’s one manager in MLB I wouldn’t trade Fredi for.

  3. 28
    Walker Says:

    Every offense even the 1927 Yanks have cold streaks during 162 games. It is the Front office’s responsibility to look at the overall end results.

  4. 29
    Shaun Says:

    To take it a step further, you wouldn’t get rid of a .333 hitter because he didn’t go 1-for-every-3 AB’s, would you?

    As long as he was a .333 hitter over a large sample and there was plenty of reason to believe that was his true talent level (he wasn’t getting a lot of seeing-eye singles or something), it wouldn’t matter so much whether he had some 0-for-8 stretches.

  5. 30
    Shaun Says:

    Okay, one more piece of evidence about TP.

    Braves ranked tied for third in the NL in number of games scoring 4 runs or more in Pendleton’s tenure. The Phillies and Rockies did it in more games and the Cardinals tied with the Braves.

    The Braves were fourth in the number of games they scored 5 runs or more, ranked behind just those same three teams.

    Oh, and the Phillies were obviously a great offensive team, but both the Phillies and Rockies played half their games in extreme hitter-friendly parks. The Cardinals played half their games in a park that slightly favored hitters up until 2005 (though they were a great offensive club in those years, too).

  6. 31
    Curt Says:

    I’m not even sure we overreacted. The Braves could have put a lot of their questions aside by coming out and playing well. Dispel some of the doubts that have permeated the club over the past 4 months. They did none of that. Instead, they left us with the sense that they haven’t overcome any of their problems, and heightened the belief that there needed to be some changes. We pointed out over and over again that we were reacting to this one series. But it was awful. No real way to sugarcoat it. Let’s hope they move on and beat up on the Astros, just like this did this spring. But, as many people have pointed out, this is more than just one bad series to start 2012. This is a theme.

  7. 32
    Shaun Says:

    Good to see the Braves resting Heyward at Game #4 of the season. They are really dedicated to his development against lefties and his overall development.

  8. 33
    ChristopherInVa Says:

    TP for president!

  9. 34
    Shaun Says:

    DOB Tweet: “#Braves manager FG said just wanted to get Francisco in lineup today vs LH before Chipper returns, to see what can do. Diaz good #s vs. Happ”

    How about we see what the player with the tools and skills of a superstar can do against lefties? I think that would give the Braves a better chance to win.

    If the Braves honestly don’t think Heyward is ready to hit lefties in the majors, at his age, he should be in the minors.

  10. 35
    Bubdylan Says:

    So, I’m guessing I’m the only sick ba**ard actually rooting for an Astros sweep on the off chance it gets Fredi gone with enough season left to turn it around?

    Admittedly, it would take more than the mere losses, but if Chipper or McCann got into it with the guy, oooh… that could do it.

    C’mon, Jones, if there was ever a time to flap those lips of yours recklessly…

  11. 36
    Bubdylan Says:

    (and that’s Chipper Jones, not Mrs. Reverend 🙂 )

  12. 37
    Bubdylan Says:

    Shaun, I’m with you. We can’t determine what Fracisco “can do” in one stinking game anyway, especially not with the added pressure of telling the guy this is his stage tonight. What a dope, seriously.

  13. 38
    Shaun Says:

    Bourn’s career AVG/OBP/SLG against lefties: .237.288/.314

    Heyward’s career triple-slash line against lefties: .227/.323/.365

    Oh, and Bourn is 29. Heyward is 22.

  14. 39
    Shaun Says:

    I’m a fan of Frank Wren. I think he’s made some shrewd moves and does a good job not wasting roster spots. However, why in the world doesn’t the front office step in and say, “you’re playing Heyward unless he’s tired or hurt”? At this point the situation is laughable.

  15. 40
    Anne Says:

    Steve: did Emmanuel Lewis have a little step ladder for his Suburban? Ham: I was told NOT to watch The Wire until I watch every episode of Homicide Life on the Street. I’m on Season 5 of that. Good show, but am I on a Primrose path?

  16. 41
    Curt Says:

    When do we simply move on from the platoon thing all together? Doesn’t seem like championship teams are built on moving guys inand out of the lineup every other day. Another curse left over from the Bobby Cox play book.

  17. 42
    Anne Says:

    Walking thru Kroger just now, heard Thin Lizzy’s “The Boys Are Back in Town” which always makes me think baseball…and it made me sad. It almost made me buy a half gallon of ice cream but I was strong. Go Braves.

  18. 43
    Nate Says:

    Maybe someday we’ll get to find out what it was Jason did/said to Fredi. It makes no sense no matter how you spin it.

  19. 44
    David Says:

    Great podcast on the opening series. I don’t think y’all overreacted at all. A week or so ago, I remember reading on Mark Bowman’s blog that when the Braves debut at home after opening the season against the Mets and Astros, there’s a good chance they could be 5-1. Coming home and being 3-3, at best, is very lukewarm. And I don’t think we’re going to be coming home with a .500 record with Beachy and Delgado pitching in two of the three games.

    So what are you guys looking forward to the most about tonight’s game? Is it…
    A) Schafer having a multi-hit game along with a stolen base (or two) and scoring the go-ahead run;
    B) Beachy issuing 4 walks and 4+ runs in 4 and 1/3 innings;
    C) Fredi giving Chad Durbin an audition as a long reliever; or
    D) Happ going 6 and 2/3, giving up 5 hits, 1 run, and striking out 7.

  20. 45
    David Says:

    Steve — a thought in response to your comment that you like Atlanta not being a team that fires its manager: you have to remember that we had the same manager for 20 seasons, a guy who came in and took a perennial losing team to the top of the standings and kept them there for the next two decades. Firing the manager hasn’t been part of the Braves’ culture in a long, long time.

  21. 46
    Walker Says:

    I am so freaking tired of these dumb decisions every day with this team. The only player who was hitting extra base hits against the mets is on the bench for no reason. The future of our freaking Franchise is riding on Heyward so he needs to be in right field every single day. I give up.

  22. 47
    Anne Says:

    Go Braves!!

  23. 48
    Steve Says:

    Sooooo good to get some runs on the board. All is well. Just kidding. But only sort of.

  24. 49
    Pure Says:

    What the hell. Sloppy plays.

  25. 50
    Adam Says:

    Oh Juan…

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