I get what you guys were saying on the show about it not being a Braves move, but Delgado gives us a better chance to win right now. Hopefully JJ can get his act together and be back soon in his old dominant form.
#32 — I agree that Delgado gives us a better chance to win now. And I also think that the prospect of Delgado having a big inning in 5-6 innings is much better than Jurrjens having several “small” innings in a 3-4 inning start that puts strain on the bullpen. I saw none of last night’s game, but it looks like Livan came through in a big way last night, and we were fortunate that JJ’s short start didn’t cause us to use too many relievers.
I said it last week that if Delgado pitched well when Hudson came back that they should demote J.J. Steve had it as one of the “fair or foul” questions. They, and I NEVER thought this would happen. Now that is has happened, I am happy AND sad. Sad, because I feel bad for the guy, but happy because it was a wise and gutsy move by the Braves. Look at it this way, at least he has tried to pitch. Hampton hardly never pitched and he was paid a gazillion dollars. Let him go to the minors to get his mojo back and either pitch him or trade him. Either way his days in a Braves uniform is numbered. He may never be back. It sucked seeing him alone on the bench. I think he knew what was coming. Maybe there is something else that we do not know?
BTW (in honor of the guys) I wil say it…. .”This was a very “unBobby’ish” move by the Braves.
It seems like most people are glad that JJ was sent down, just shocked either that they did it so soon or that they actually did it.
One thing that comes to mind is the Francoeur demotion in 2008, but I think that was a completely different situation for several reasons. First, the Braves have another player (Delgado) forcing their hand and making the Braves make a decision on whether or not JJ should stay. Delgado’s not pitching lights-out, but he’s definitely doing a lot better than JJ. With Francoeur, there was nobody else knocking at the door — no other outfield prospects in the minors that were tearing it up, and so Francoeur’s job security wasn’t really threatened. Does anybody remember the name of Francoeur’s replacement? I had to look it up – Jason Perry. Our other starting outfielders that year were Gregor Blanco and Mark Kotsay; Brandon Jones was a 4th outfielder for a bit that year, and he wasn’t tearing it up either.
I think that some might be surprised that JJ’s demotion happened so quickly — only 4 starts into the season and they send him down. But with the timing of Hudson’s return and JJ’s poor second half last year, I think that they gave him plenty of opportunities to improve, and with Delgado pitching well, they couldn’t keep giving him chances and expect for him to succeed.
Going back to the start of Spring Training, he has had two good starts — both against the Astros’ AAA split squads. All of his other starts against major league hitters have not gone well, which I think raises the question: if he does well in a few starts in the minors, how will we really know if he’s fixed his problems?
David, well, it’s just like any other player. Got to look at the performance and what is behind the performance to determine whether it would translate to the majors.
I would be kind of surprised if the Braves aren’t looking to move him for something of value, hoping some team is willing to take a shot on a pitcher who may have some injury issues and who never missed a ton of bats to begin with. We’ll see if there is such a team out there.
Maybe we will see something like a Francoeur-Ryan Church deal. I could get behind that. Church was a very useful player at the time. Good on-base guy with occasional pop.
Before his demotion, I’d been thinking that if Jurrjens can put together a few starts, Boston might be interested in him. If they’re not desperate for pitching yet, they will be soon. Talk about a team that is imploding.
However, I don’t think that they’d give up anything of value at all until he actually shows that he can pitch effectively against major league teams, and considering the amount of strong hitters in the AL East and press in Boston, I doubt that they’d be interested in him.
46 – I know. It continues to be maddening that our leading OPS player and 2nd in OBP and AVG (behind Bourn in both categories) is stuffed down in the lineup. I love Prado, but he needs to be hitting 7th and JHey needs to be hitting 2nd. And I’m still thinking that since JHey has kinda cooled off since ending his 10-game streak (2-for-13 in his last 4 games).
By the way, did y’all know that JHey’s middle name is Adenolith? What an AWESOME name. I kinda wish that he went by Adenolith Heyward, cause then we could call him Adenolith The Behemoth.
I hate when Prado gives his at bats away by trying so hard to hit to the right side of the infield. I prefer for him to swing like he normally does for a hit. That strategy might be good for a tie games in the 7th or 8th inning. But we should be playing for multiple runs in the 1st inning.