June 03, 2012

Show #186: Braves Break Streak, Front Office Makes Moves

Pastornicky sent down.  The start of the Andrelton Simmons era.  Medlen to join the rotation.  The return of Jose Constanza.

 

 

173 Responses to “Show #186: Braves Break Streak, Front Office Makes Moves”

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  1. 76
    Nate Says:

    Can’t help you there my friend, was listening on the radio.

  2. 77
    Nate Says:

    I love the Harden beards in the Thunder crowd. That’s great!

  3. 78
    Steve Says:

    @77 – yes. It’s pretty funny.

  4. 79
    Bubdylan Says:

    Well, I couldn’t recommend Men In Black 3 any less. Can’t believe I missed a great Delgado game and Bama’s 4th National Championship of the year for that.

    Finally joined the hip universe and bought some Black Keys. I know they’re trendy or whatever, but I really dig it so far.

  5. 80
    Curt Says:

    I thought Venters looked good. Spotted his pitches well. He had a couple of breaking balls that never had a chance, but he looked better to me.

  6. 81
    Steve Says:

    Non-baseball link (warning, a little blue):

    Pretty funny clip about smart phones and shooting video. With bonus George Lucas bashing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Bt9zSfinwFA

  7. 82
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @40

    I think the “sterod area” skewed the expectation of what aging players can do and thus skewed the salaries they are offered. It is just now starting (and I stress STARTING) to come back to earth. Unfortunately, it looks like the trend is that you have to pay 10 years worth of salary to obtain 5 – 6 years of the level of play ( if you are lucky) you are paying for and just live with the last 4 -5 years of sub-level play.

  8. 83
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @63

    It is nice to see him stop walking the first batter.

    He had so few “clean” (no walks, no hits) appearences last year in his saves. Good to see a few now. Kimbrel flirted with putting Reyes on, but Reyes fouled off ball four @ 3-2 before he struck out on the next pitch.

  9. 84
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    I believe that “the shift” may be the best thing to ever happen to McCann. He has started to try not to just bee a pull hitter anymore.

    If he is successful (and last night’s game does give hope), it can only be good for the team.

    I think he had really gotten “locked into” being a pull hitter.

  10. 85
    Leah Says:

    http://t.co/gen4zaQY

    It’s sad how happy this article makes me. The last place part more than the injuries.

  11. 86
    Steve Says:

    @84 – Agreed. Imagine what this offense can do if McCann stays consistent.

  12. 87
    Shaun Says:

    Mark @82, I’m not so sure about that. I think more teams realize aging patterns of players, so teams give smaller contracts to some free agents, although teams are still going to give huge contracts to the great free agents. Plus some teams may overvalue certain free agents and still hand out somewhat ludicrous contracts.

    Also, I think it’s easier to know how to value players these days, with everyone having access to more information and easier processing of information. We now have a better sense of what a win is worth in the free agent market and teams can use that as a starting point in negotiations and in their own budget.

    But I don’t know that the steroid era inflated contracts. Sure PEDs, along with better nutrition and fitness, may have allowed some players to stick around longer but, if everyone had access to PEDs and better nutrition and fitness, the aging patterns of players wouldn’t change and didn’t seem to during that era. A player in his 20s had the same access to PEDs as a player in his 30s, so the way players age didn’t change drastically, at least that’s the idea and, from what I understand, the data seems to support that.

    Also, I think with free agency in general teams realize they pay for the first several productive years and realize there is likely to be a decline in later years. Most teams probably accept this because they realize it’s about the only way to get certain players. Another thing that comes in to play is that if a free agent signing works out and leads to more wins, no one cares about the later years of overpaying for less production and, if a free agent signing doesn’t work out, the bad contracts become another GM’s problem.

  13. 88
    Nate Says:

    Any word on Freeman floating around out there? All I’ve heard is contusion.

  14. 89
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @87

    My point was PEDs tended to make players more productive later in their careers. i.e. it wasn’t totally unexpected to have a 35, 36, 37 year old star to keep playing everyday and still be producing at a high level. Therefore, the expectation was teams would offer a 30 year old player a 5, 6, 7+ high-dollar contract because players in the past had been contributing to the end of those contracts. Not so much now…

  15. 90
    Steve Says:

    @88 – nothing yet on Twitter which is where we’ll hear first.

    Also on Freeman – just read DOB’s story about his switch back to contacts and how the glasses don’t work (blind spot created by the nose piece). That is bad news. It’s all well and good to have tears flowing at an indoor stadium, but this may get bad again.

  16. 91
    Nate Says:

    #90, I can’t believe were going through another eye issue with a key middle of the order piece. I’ve never had eye issues myself (knock on wood) but what he’s experiencing sounds extremely uncomfortable.

  17. 92
    Shaun Says:

    Mark @89, it would be an interesting topic to look in to. I’m a little skeptical that there were any more players who remained productive in to their late 40′s than in years past and, if there were, that PED’s were the main cause.

    I know this is a very crude way to do any sort of research and therefore shouldn’t be taken too seriously , on Fangraphs, I pulled up the over-35 WAR leaders since 1970. While there are a few PED-era players and players who were either known PED users or strongly suspected of using, there are plenty in the top 30 who either didn’t play in that era or who weren’t suspected of using PEDs.

    I picked 1970 because I figured that would maybe give us a somewhat equal number of past years in and out of the PED era. But of course those years could be called the Greenies Era.

  18. 93
    Steve Says:

    Freddie’s finger is not broke. Will only miss a few days. So glad about that.

  19. 94
    Shaun Says:

    When I read “Freddie” and “finger,” I think of Tom Green.

  20. 95
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @94

    That is really unfortunate. Want some brain bleach?

  21. 96
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @45

    I saw J.C. Boscan listed on a “should sell high” prospect list, saying his defense is really good and it is expected that his hitting will develop, but he could turn out to not be a regualr major leaguer. It said Braves should trade him for piece to help this year.

    Possibly affected the draft picks? Planning to trade him?

  22. 97
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @95

    Just to name a few “high profile” folks:

    Mark McGuire born 1963
    Year_Age_BA__HR
    1996_33_.312_52
    1997_34_.274_58_(split between As and Cards)
    1998_35_.299_70
    1999_36_.278_65
    2000_37_.305_32
    2001_38_.187_29

    Barry Bonds born 1964
    Year_Age_BA__HR
    1997_33_.291_40
    1998_34_.303_44
    1999_35_.262_34
    2000_36_.306_49
    2001_37_.328_73
    2002_38_.370_46
    2003_39_.341_45
    2004_40_.362_45

    Rafael Palmeiro born 1964
    Year_Age_BA__HR
    1997_33_.254_38
    1998_34_.296_43
    1999_35_.324_47
    2000_36_.288_39
    2001_37_.273_47
    2002_38_.273_43
    2003_39_.260_38
    2004_40_.258_23
    2005_41_.266_18

    Sammy Sosa born 1968
    Year_Age_BA__HR
    2001_33_.328_64
    2002_34_.288_49
    2003_35_.279_40
    2004_36_.253_35
    2005_37_.221_45
    2007_39_.252_21

  23. 98
    Shaun Says:

    Plenty of high profile players remain productive in their later years and did before the PED era. I don’t know if these types of players having productive years into their late 30′s, to 40′s in some cases, would have necessarily swayed teams to take chances on signing other, older free agents. Those are the type players who are always going to get fairly big contracts later in their careers, PEDs or no PEDs, seems to me.

  24. 99
    Walker Says:

    @96

    Boscan is not a prospect, nor will he ever develop hitting skills.

  25. 100
    Curt Says:

    People should treat Minor like he is throwing a no-hitter at this point. Just stay out of his way.

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