June 11, 2012

Show #187: Braves Put All Facets Together For A Five Win Week

5 of 6.  Jekyll and Hyde team.  Favorite Smoltz memories.  And what to do with JJ?

 

 

154 Responses to “Show #187: Braves Put All Facets Together For A Five Win Week”

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  1. 51
    Leah Says:

    Not me Stevie…Curt! Thought you’d know that…geez.

  2. 52
    Curt Says:

    Can’t a ‘save’ come in the 8th inning? If the whole purpose is to ‘save’ the game, why not have the best guy in there to pitch. Nothing says Kimbrel has to pitch 5 outs. Let him get you out of the 8th and then hand it over to Venters, Durbin, et al. But save the game when it is on the line.

    And all of a sudden you are 5 back too. This up and down stuff is driving me crazy.

    Thanks, Leah

  3. 53
    Steve Says:

    C’mon Leah, isn’t it clear. 3 hosts, 3 separate cabs home each Sunday night.

    Happy birthday, Curt.

  4. 54
    ham Says:

    Happy Birthday, Curtis. We all pitched in and bought you a new gall bladder. Enjoy!

  5. 55
    Walker Says:

    Yeah it killed me to see Kimbrel pitch when we were losing, especially when we didn’t bring him in while we winning twice the past few days.

  6. 56
    Curt Says:

    “Every game was real close,” McCann said. “It just seemed like we didn’t get that big hit to break open a close game. But (they’re) one of the best teams in the game, and we know we can hang with them.”

    Pardon me, but who cares? Are your aspirations to “hang with them?” Or are they to beat them? What I know is that you just got swept and outplayed for 3 games in your home building by a team, that if you have any championship aspirations, you might have to go through. I could care less that you hung with them. This isn’t high school basketball. Show some freaking disappointment.

  7. 57
    Curt Says:

    Gall bladders are for losers

  8. 58
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Have you seen this article?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1218154-braves-trade-scenarios-10-moves-atlanta-must-make-before-all-star-break?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=atlanta-braves

    I know that our big three will especially like the last suggestion… Some of he others seem interesting…

  9. 59
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Birthy Happday, Curt!

  10. 60
    Shaun Says:

    Curt @52, first of all, happy birthday. Mine is tomorrow. Go Geminis!

    I think baseball should make some adjustments to the save rule to help push the game away from letting a stat or a rule (rather than winning) dictate strategy. More to come.

  11. 61
    Steve Says:

    @60 – Shaun – Way to tease that blog!

  12. 62
    Shaun Says:

    Steve, gotta keep ‘em thirsting for more.

  13. 63
    Shaun Says:

    Mike makes a good point in his blog post: Those games against the Yankees were all close. Losses are never good and can’t be undone, of course. But the Braves didn’t play particularly horrible in those games against probably one of the top two teams in the majors (the Rangers being the other). Plus, it’s only three games so it’s not like we should read too much into those games anyway. But I’d say the Braves are in decent shape.

    If there is a weakness on a team, I’d rather it be in the bullpen than glaring holes in the offense or starting pitching.

  14. 64
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    @58

    Just in case it was unclear to anyone, “our big three” is Steve, Ham and Curt… :)

  15. 65
    Walker Says:

    Instead of a 2-2 or 1-3 stretch. We go 0-4 because our managee sucks. A good manager makes a hell of a difference.

  16. 66
    Walker Says:

    From AJC

    Gonzalez, who was working with a bullpen without the services of Eric O’Flaherty (elbow) and Chad Durbin (rest), said he did not consider bringing in closer Craig Kimbrel in the eighth. He said he didn’t want Kimbrel to pitch more than an inning, a situation he has rarely been in during his young career.

    “Not five outs,” Gonzalez said. “I don’t know if he’s even done it in the major leagues. I know he’s done it in the minor leagues. Could he do it? I’m not sure. It’s not about the pitch count. It’s not about the stressful innings. [John Smoltz] could do it all the time, but he was a starter. He knew how to come out, sit down and then go back out there. There is an unknown when you are dealing with a young pitcher.

    I’m dumbfounded. A 24 year old MLB pitcher can’t pitch more than 1 inning. Well Fredi, what the hell are we going to do in the playoffs( If we even get there). Your reasoning that he can’t pitch more than 1 inning because he has to sit in between is asinine.

  17. 67
    Shaun Says:

    Walker @66, I’m just not sure why the 9th inning is always more vital than the 8th or some earlier inning. Okay, so Fredi only wants Kimbrel to go one inning. Well, what if the game is on the line in the 8th or the 7th or even the 6th? What if the Braves need to get through the 6th, 7th or 8th inning or there will be no 9th inning save chance? Relief roles shouldn’t be assigned by inning or the save rule. It should be assigned by whenever it’s going to be toughest to prevent runs and when you most need to prevent runs. The save rule has ruined bullpen usage all around the game.

    Not that I don’t think Kimbrel can handle two innings every now and then. But even if Fredi only wants him in there for one, why does it always have to be the 9th inning or last inning or whenever there is a save situation?

  18. 68
    Nate Says:

    “Nate – I’m going with the Netherlands.”

    The curse is strong with this one. Btw, Happy Birthday! :)

  19. 69
    Bubdylan Says:

    HBD, Curt.

    If the NBA is looking to improve popularity, it couldn’t do better than having a different team beat the Heat in the finals for about 5 years in a row. I would buy that s**t on Blu-ray.

  20. 70
    Walker Says:

    Why does everyone want Lebron to fail? Would it not be great if one of the greatest players of all time had at least one championship?

  21. 71
    Nate Says:

    #70, I don’t want LeBron to fail. I would just rather see the Thunder win. I’ve never thought LeBron has lost with the best team, and I think he’s lost to better teams every time he has been in the postseason. I hated The Decision, but that was 2 years ago, and it did raise money for the Boy’s and Girl’s Club. I think the comparisons to Peyton, when it comes to not winning, are fair. I hope LeBron, like Peyton FINALLY did, gets to win it all one day.

    LeBron is unfairly vilified.

    BTW, did anyone watch the Dream Team doc on the NBA channel last night. It was great. They showed the MJ flu game right before it, too.

    The 4th Quarter is still why LeBron will never be close to Jordan, imo.

  22. 72
    Nate Says:

    Also, rooting for the Heat is like rooting for the Red Sox or Yankees.

  23. 73
    Steve Says:

    The article in #58 is a good read.

    I want my athletes, especially in basketball, to be ass-kickers who want to win it all by themselves when the game is on the line. LBJ is not that guy. Furthermore, he decided to go to a team with an alpha dog (Wade) already in place. That’s just not fun to root for. LBJ is too good to not want to be the man. He should have gone to NY or CHI to put those cities on his back to win a championship. The over manipulated creation of the Heat is just off putting to me. All that PLUS the Decision and I can’t back him.

  24. 74
    Nate Says:

    @73, leave it to the ABT Dr to drop the key knowledge. Through my work I spend a lot of time in bars talking to complete strangers (believe, it’s not as shady as it sounds- keep in mind I have a Southern Baptist Mother and Grandmother, both of whom still love me), and comment 73 is how most people feel about the Heat. There is no Everyman, blue collar, elbow grease side of that team, and that makes them hard to root for with most people. And almost every 80-90s vet you hear from-whether it be MJ, Magic, Bird, Dominique- they all say, doing what the big 3 with the Heat did, in their time, that was unthinkable. You have to promote competitive balance, that’s the way it should be. Jordan would have never joined the Bad Boys. Bird and Magic wanted to play together, but they kept their rivalry for the integrity of the game. It keeps things balance.

  25. 75
    Walker Says:

    I agree, it would have been nice to see Lebron go somewhere else. I wouldn’t mind for him to at least win one before he retires, for his sanity. Then again, he is a multi-millionaire and his sanity should be fine either way.

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