June 17, 2012

Show #188: Losses and Injury Mark the Braves’ Week

Breaking down the Medlen/Minor/Beachy/JJ madness.  Looking back at the Yankees series.  And the Derek Lowe/Dusty Baker feud.



131 Responses to “Show #188: Losses and Injury Mark the Braves’ Week”

  1. 1
    Nate Says:

    Great show in tough times, fellas. Hang in there. I don’t think there is a wrong answer in the Medlen debate. I have always thought he was a starter, but he doesn’t have any wow factor to his game. I think that makes him a long reliever in most baseball people’s eyes. The use of Medlen as a pro has been short-sighted, imo. He is able to contribute effectively as a reliever, but I think he’s a one of our top 2 starters if he is allowed to start on a regular basis. He is, over his career, our most consistent pitcher not named Tim Hudson, imo.

    In the end, both the starting pitching and relief pitching are a complete dumpster fire. So, can we clone Medlen like 3 or 4 times over? Imo, no wrong answer, I’m sure people with the time will bring us the de facto stats on the subject later today.

  2. 2
    Nate Says:

    “Does Dusty Baker eat BBQ before every game?”
    Quite possibly the best quote of the 2012 ABT season. Again, great job in trying times. Ham, you should apologize to BP Frank again for that impersonation.

    Cheers for the Lowe stuff :)

    Steve: “Any other good signs?”
    Ham: “It’s over?”

    Pure awesomeness.

  3. 3
    Nate Says:

    Curt, in fairness to your pulling for the Dutch, they looked really terrible for all but 15 minutes of this tournament. Talk about a team that hates each other and can’t play D. The coach benches his Captain for the final match, which was deserved, but the Captain also happens to be his Son-In-Law. Talk about some drama. I predict a lot of turnover for the Dutch. In that sport they’re never afraid to clean house.

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    Walker Says:

    Allegedly it has been known that Derek Lowe allegedly has a drink allegedly every now and then…………………………allegedly.

    That’s just what I’ve heard. I have no evidence though.

  5. 5
    Walker Says:

    He also allegedly throws a sinker and he has allegedly played for the Boston Red Sox. That’s just what they tell me.

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    Curt Says:

    In all fairness to the Dutch, I was rooting for them. They had no shot. I just can’t root for the flashy teams like Italy and Spain. And the Germans. They’re the Germans.

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    Nate Says:

    #6, agree with all of it. We break the tournament down into 4 categories: favorites, contenders, underdogs, and cinderella. Our favorites were the Germans, Spain, and Netherlands, and I took the Dutch this time around in spite of your warning.

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    Shaun Says:

    I think Jurrjens is maybe a slight step up from Livan. But I also don’t know if Kris Medlen would be a savior in the rotation. Seems to me like a decent number three or a solid number four.

    I’m thinking they’ll use the next 3 weeks as a tryout. If Jurrjens can’t cut it, they’ll go with Medlen or perhaps even Redmond.

    Redmond is being overlooked but he misses bats perhaps better than Medlen or Jurrjens. Unlike someone like Carlyle, Redmond has been a exclusively a starter all season. Redmond’s control has been awesome too, albeit in Triple-A, but still.

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    Shaun Says:

    If you’ll allow me to slip in to the podcast, ex post facto….

    I don’t pay much attention to minor league ERA. I just want to know if a pitcher is missing bats, is not walking people and is keeping the ball in the park.

    I look at strikeout rates, walks rates and homer rates even more so with minor league pitchers than with major leaguers because it seems reasonable to view minor league defenses as significantly worse. So pitchers are much more susceptible to hits on batted balls than in the big leagues and therefore possibly higher ERA’s.

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    Steve Says:

    If the pattern holds, the Braves will have a good week. Anyone believe it? Anyone believe the Braves go .500 this week?

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    Adam Says:

    I’m saying we go 4-2. 1-2 against the Yankees and sweep the Sox. I’m hoping Freeman coming back gives our offense a boost and that our starting pitching keeps dominating (Our starting pitchers have the 2nd best ERA in baseball this month).

    Fingers crossed!

  12. 12
    Chris Says:

    People who want Medlen in the bullpen are admitting Fredi can’t manage a bullpen without a crutch aka a guy he can plug in without thinking about match-ups. It says more about Fredi than anything else.

    Bullpen guys are just not as valuable as starters. Its a simple numbers game. Starters pitch a lot more innings. Thinking those innings are not as valuable is simply a fallacy.

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    Walker Says:

    I absolutely cannot believe the Braves would allow the Yankees to sweep them again so I’m thinking we at least win one and we at least win 2 in Boston.

    I’m in The camp that says that Medlen stays in the Bullpen. I go back and forth on it but until Fredi learns how to properly use Kimbrel we need another reliable arm that can affect multiple games a week instead of one. We have plenty of starters but not enough reliable bullpen arms.

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    DAP Says:

    one of the best shows y’all have ever done. some heated debate…i like it.

    also, it wasnt overly negative, which was surprising. there was concern, but not panic, which is the correct reaction, in my opinion.

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    Curt Says:

    DAP! Thanks for the love, brother

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    Curt Says:


  17. 17
    Curt Says:

    Maybe not

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    Walker Says:


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    Bubdylan Says:

    The suck runs deep.

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    Steve Says:

    Wow. Just saw the Beachy news. It’s getting kind of grim around here. Sorry, Dap.

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    Pure Says:

    I saw a comment about Fredi tipping his hat to Dr. Andrews. Hilarious and sad.

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    Curt Says:

    Braves starting pitchers had a 2.50 ERA in June before Monday, second in the majors to the Yankees’ 1.97. But while the Yankees were 13-2 for the month, the Braves were just 7-7.

    Atlanta’s starters were 0-4 during the team’s 1-5 stretch before Monday, during which Atlanta’s starters had a .189 opponents’ average that ranked sixth in the majors during that period.

  23. 23
    Nate Says:

    #22, maybe I should retract my “the starting pitching is a dumpster fire” comment. Bub, to your point about taking a break from the team, I have most definitely done that. I have rarely missed games when I’ve had the opportunity to watch, but I find that it’s becoming easier and easier to miss games and not care in the Fredi Gonzalez era, especially when it comes to a Monday game. I bought a 12 game ticket deal this year, and it’s looking like I’m going to have to force myself down to Turner Field. Traveling to a game from out of town is hard to rationalize these days with this team.

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    DAP Says:

    yeah the beachy news is bad, but we still have capable starters, and a very good offense. (really…im not kidding)

    i think making the playoffs is a very reasonable expectation for the braves. even as bad as they have been playing the last few weeks, they are within a game of getting one of the NL wildcard spots. they just need to hang on in june.

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    Shaun Says:

    It just seems like the Braves are one short in all areas. They need one more bat, one more starter, one more reliever and I would feel much better about things. And I don’t think they need some star-level players in these areas. Just someone a little above average in each area that can kind of keep things flowing. It seems like the team is just thin enough to make things difficult.

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    Nate Says:

    The Cardinals weren’t looking like a WS team early in the season last year, and they were without Wainwright for the whole year. One of the things that separates the 2012 Braves and 2011 Cards is the birds had a bunch of guys who stepped up big time last year, and they also had a very good bench, which the Braves don’t have. I would like to see us add another bat and another bullpen arm. I would also like to see Mac, Uggla, and Heyward step up. It’s time for that to happen.

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    Curt Says:

    The thing about the Braves of the 90s is that they had no big injuries, other than Smoltz.

    These Braves can’t catch a break. Whether it be Chipper and the liner, Freeman and his eyes and the DP throw, EOF, Beachy, on and on. And each one is more crippling than the next. Every place of need develops a bigger void when we lose a guy who was actually contributing.

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    Shaun Says:

    Curt @27, also the 1990s Braves were loaded because of Ted Turner/Time Warner and because they got lucky with developing Glavine and trading for Smoltz.

    The Braves were a player development juggernaut which makes it easy to forget that when they needed to sign a Greg Maddux or trade for a Fred McGriff or a Gary Sheffield or a Denny Neagle or an Andres Galarraga, it happened.

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    Steve Says:

    I miss Denny Neagle.

  30. 30
    Shaun Says:

    Steve @29, The train sound he used to make…Let’s see Mike Minor do that!

  31. 31
    Curt Says:

    The hookers he got busted soliciting. Let’s see Delgado pull that off.

  32. 32
    Shaun Says:

    Who doesn’t love a good hooker solicitation story?

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    Walker Says:

    Doesn’t Chipper get an automatic invite to the all star game since its his last year?I remember they did it with Ripken and Gwynn back in the day. If they don’t its ashame. I guarantee they would do it with Jeter and Chipper is the far better talent over his career.

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    Steve Says:

    @32 – I totally missed this. Here’s the story from Deadspin. With a picture! And it is not pretty.


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    Bubdylan Says:

    #34, that picture is just beyond belief. I didn’t even know he’d grown his hair long.

  36. 36
    Bubdylan Says:

    3 to 3 in the 5th. I’d put our odds of winning this game at 20%.

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    Steve Says:

    I feel better about our chances after throw Tex out at the plate there. That’s some good momentum. Now if we can cash in on Mac’s double.

    Bub – #35 is hilarious

  38. 38
    Bubdylan Says:

    Love the ol’ great-play-in-the-field-then-do-damage-at-the-plate combo. Good job, Heyward.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Speaking of beyond belief:

    Chad Durbin since May 11:

    19 appearances
    15 innings
    0.72 WHIP
    0.00 ERA
    OPS against: .368

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Venters in that same stretch:

    21 appearances
    15 innings
    2.01 WHIP (!!!!)
    6.21 ERA
    OPS against: 1.044 (YeeeOUCH)

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    Steve Says:

    The WHIP over 2 is REALLY insane.

    How about EOF? What a huge appearance there.

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    Walker Says:

    @34 That is one beautiful woman.

  43. 43
    Walker Says:

    Andrelton Simmons has been impressive. That defense with that obp. Great combination

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    Steve Says:

    #43 – Absolutely. The great defense has been amazing. But not having a complete black hole in the 8 spot is damn good, too.

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    Walker Says:

    Sit down Jeter!!

  46. 46
    Walker Says:

    We Won!!

  47. 47
    Steve Says:

    Hell yes. What a great moment. Finally.

  48. 48
    Walker Says:

    Nationals about to lose

  49. 49
    Walker Says:

    They lost

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    Curt Says:

    What a relief. Not to ever give props to the Yanks, but 10 game winning streak all against teams over .500. Never happened in their history.

    Oh, and we just snapped it. The Jeter strike out in the 9th made me cry and pee my pants a little.

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    Curt Says:

    And anyone remember how hot Neagle’s wife was. Total hottie. Klassy.

  52. 52
    Curt Says:

    Watching ESPN today, in regards to Dickey’s back-to-back 1 hitters, last guy to pitch back-to-back 1 hitters was Dave Steib who did it for the Jays. Both games he gave up a hit after pitching 8 2/3 innings of no-hit ball. Crazy

  53. 53
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    So when are we going to wise up and trade that Heyward guy? :D

  54. 54
    Walker Says:

    Kimbrel was just so dominant. I really just wish we could use him more. Oh well.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:


    It is really nice when he has clean innings appearances (i.e. no hits, no walks)!

    I can live with and hit or two if he just kills walking the first batter…

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    Curt Says:

    MIM, we’ll pass on your comments to BP Frank.

    Apologies to the Thunder fans. I rooted for your team.

  57. 57
    Walker Says:

    I don’t care who wins. I just want a game 7 that goes into triple overtime. But I’m just selfish like that.

  58. 58
    Nate Says:

    Melky Cabrera must really like playing in SF.

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    Nate Says:

    Form Bleacher Report and one of their crazier pieces:

    “One of the top pitching prospects in baseball for two consecutive fears, Julio Teheran has seemingly plateaued at Triple-A, as his electric arm and arsenal are yet to translate at the big-league level.

    After a terrific 2011 season at Triple-A in which he posted a 15-3 record with 2.55 ERA and 122 K/48 BB in 144.2 innings, Teheran struggled upon a promotion to Atlanta. Appearing in five games, the right-hander registered a 5.03 ERA over 19.2 innings while allowing four home runs, eight walks and fanning 10.

    With Brandon Beachy on the precipice of season-ending elbow surgery and Mike Minor still trying to find consistency, Teheran is a blue-chip prospect who could yield a significant return of major-league-caliber arms.”

    Just not even close. I agree that trades are coming, but I just don’t know how big of a trade we should expect. We are in a classic situation for the Braves to play the “We want to get healthy and see what we have” card. I don’t think Wren will start pushing the panic button now, he’s dealt with injuries every year and he’s never made an epic trade that sends away blue chip prospects. To trade away any of these kids that have been untouchable for so long seems to go against the grain of what the Braves are all about these days.

    Last offseason I thought the Braves would probably need 7 or 8 starters to get through 2012, which appears to be pretty accurate. They better hang onto all of these guys for now.

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    Shaun Says:


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    Nate Says:

    @60, Awesome.

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    Nate Says:

    I do like the Garza rumor, but there is no way he’s worth anything close to a Teheran. The Youkilis rumor is interesting, but we already have Prado. An athletic, right-handed LF with some pop is what I’m hoping for from Santa Wren and a healthy, reliable LHRP. Garza would just be icing on the cake. I like a postseason rotation of Huddy, Hanson, Garza, we would just need a consistent 4th starter out of the Delgado, Minor, JJ, and Teheran group.

    I imagine Wren will give those 4 every chance he can for them to fill out the rotation and be consistent before he starts making any trades.

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    Adam Says:

    That was Uggla’s first hit this season in the first inning.

  64. 64
    Nate Says:

    This whole hitting homers and scoring runs thing is fun to watch.

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    Nate Says:

    @63, that’s nuts. Almost as crazy as the inability to win on Mondays.

    And there’s an Uncle Dave homer. David Ross, both a scholar and a gentleman.

  66. 66
    Nate Says:

    Hitting homers, calling a great game. Given McCann’s knack for finding the DL, isn’t having Ross on the team pretty important. Let’s resign this guy.

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    Nate Says:

    @27, I can’t remember there ever being an injury to a key piece other than Smoltz and when Chipper got hurt before what should have been his rookie year.

    Injuries are so common place now, and injuries I can’t remember ever hearing about as much as you do now, such as TJ injuries, obliques, shoulders, nerve damage in arms leading to numbness, it makes me wonder about a lot of things such as PEDs and whether guys in the past were really that much “tougher” than modern athletes.

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    Adam Says:

    omigod Bourn! What a catch.

  69. 69
    Nate Says:

    Air Bourn. Had to.

  70. 70
    Leah Says:

    Wow! Winning IS more fun!

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    Adam Says:

    HUGE homer right there!

    This team is a lot better when Heyward is contributing.

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    Anne Says:

    I love the Braves right now so much that I’m giving them tomorrow off. Oh, and #60 will haunt me for a while when I close my eyes.

  73. 73
    Walker Says:

    Heyward would hit 40 homers at Yankee stadium.

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    Steve Says:

    #72 was spectactular

    Hell of a win today. What a good piece of news and something to loosen up the offense. Bring on Boston. Let’s win that series, too.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    From so low to so high in two days. I love baseball. (I hate baseball.)

  76. 76
    Bubdylan Says:

    How do Yankees fans put up with a ballpark that dilutes the HR numbers of all those great players from the past?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    ESPN: “Braves Beachy to See Andrews for Tear”

    I didn’t know the doctor got so emotionally involved.

    Hyuck hyuck.

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    Anne Says:

    Bub – finally got the solid time to watch Fiennes’ Coriolanus. So great. One reviewer who noted he made smart choices such as surrounding himself with a strong supporting cast = 100% agree. Even the random Romans with speaking parts are just great. I could watch Vanessa Redgrave in anything. Modern dress/setting didn’t bug me at all. I’m glad he kept it in Rome instead if, oh, say, Afghanistan. Oh, and Go Braves.

  79. 79
    Bubdylan Says:

    Anne, agreed X 100 on Vanessa Redgrave. In the behind-the-scenes, she admits she went from not believing she could possibly pull off the role to thinking it might be her best work.

    Glad you liked it. I thought it was very clever without wearing its cleverness on its sleeve (I’m looking at you, Baz Luhrmann’s R & J).

    Next Ralph is directing himself as Charles Dickens. That’ll be … something.

  80. 80
    Anne Says:

    Really enjoyed Bob Ojeda’s interview on Fresh Air

  81. 81
    Steve Says:

    This is great. Props to @ben_lindbergh at Baseball Prospectus. http://tinyurl.com/7zlgo62

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    Leah Says:


    Announcers make this clip…

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    Steve Says:

    Press Release from the Bravos:

    ATLANTA – Atlanta Braves right-handed pitcher Brandon Beachy underwent successful “Tommy John” surgery today to reconstruct the partially torn ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow. The operation was performed in Gulf Breeze, Fla., by Dr. James Andrews. Beachy, 25, went 5-5 with a 2.00 ERA in 13 starts for the Braves this season. At the time of his surgery, Beachy ranked tied for the Major-League-lead in ERA at 2.00, while he led the Majors in opponents’ batting average (.171) among all qualifying starting pitchers. He owns a career record of 12-10 with a 3.07 ERA in 41 career starts.

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    Pure Says:

    @81 brought back memories of me watching a Yankee game once. It was a treat by a client of mine in NY so I had to pretend to root for the Yankees. But deep inside I was hoping they’d strike out 27 times. They of course rallied and won on a walk-off with Jeter scoring the winning run. It was a painful night as I got splattered with Yankee obnoxiousness.

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    Leah Says:

    @83 sad.

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    Danny Says:

    81 and 82 are both hilarious!

    Sadly, I know versions of all of those characters (81) in Ga too!

    From DOB:

    “I like his makeup — he doesn’t seem to be intimated at all,” Walker said. “I haven’t seen enough of him yet, but he’s obviously talented enough to hit in this league. He seems comfortable right now, but we’re not working on anything yet, we’re just watching him play and kind of letting it unfold a little bit more. We’re just kind of in watch-and-see mode, and see how it goes.

    Is it bad to hope he doesn’t need advice all season?

    Also, JJ will kill it tomorrow.

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    Danny Says:

    The Walker quote referred to Simmons btw.

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    Danny Says:

    I also liked reading today where someone referred to our starting pitching depth today and compared our chances of overcoming the Beachy loss to last years’ Cards.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I agree JJ will kill it.

    I doubt we have the same idea about what “it” is, though. :)

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    Walker Says:

    Congrats to Lebron and the Heat. Anybody with that kind of talent eventually has to win one.

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    Curt Says:

    Yes, congrats to a another franchise for buying a championship. Way to go Miami.

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    BRAVEinNY (Matt) Says:

    HAMMY- Are you going to be at the games this weekend is Boston?

    If so, I will be there Saturday. Maybe see you there.

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    Walker Says:

    Free agency is apart of the game. In 1997 the Marlins had the 5th highest payroll in the league. Why didn’t the other 4 teams win instead? You have to execute. As a Braves fan I wish the Braves had the funds to add a huge free agent piece sometimes. But we don’t. And that speaks to our ownership not caring. Stienbrenner wanted it more and did what he had to do.I will always respect that. And remember buying players also happens when you are able to keep the players you develop or trade for on you team. That means bye bye to McCann after next year. Bye Bye to Bourn after this year. And its really ashame.

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    Nate Says:

    Feels like tonight’s a lot bigger than your average late-June MLB game. I really hope JJ can show some confidence tonight and have a solid outing. It feels like he’s pitching for his Atlanta Braves career.

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    Curt Says:


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    Steve Says:

    @92 – Matt! Howdy. Good to hear from you. I hope you have a great time at Fenway on Saturday.

    @94 – couldn’t agree more. While JJ’s performance tonight doesn’t necessarily have wide reaching ramifications for the rest of the season… IT COULD. Really good or really bad will point the FO in a direction as we head to the trade deadline.

    On a side note, I get a small, perverse thrill every time I write “FO” in a post.

  97. 97
    Curt Says:

    Sheriff, do the letters F O mean anything to you?

    – The Bandit

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    Ham Says:

    Matt – I am NOT going to any games this weekend, and it’s killing me. Drove by Fenway on the way home tonight, and it made me sick. Have fun tomorrow.

    And Curtis, as much as I wanted the Thunder to win (even though I am glad the Lebron as a choker storyline is over), the Heat and Hawks payroll are only 4 mil different. I know its hard to imagine this without giggling/puking, but if the Hawks had won, certainly you wouldn’t complain.

  99. 99
    Curt Says:

    Turns out the hawks didn’t win

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    ham Says:

    while it is still way in the realm of Fredi to do whatever to this game . . . JJ has looked nice. Stevie and Curtis, I know you mocked me for my faith, but it is really happening . . .

    Just to be clear, Livan is not on our roster any more is he?

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    Shaun Says:

    Time to trade JJ right now! Hurry!

  102. 102
    Curt Says:

    I’m out seeing an 70s cover band

  103. 103
    Curt Says:

    Or a 70s cover band

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    Danny Says:

    I think he killed “it” Bub!

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    Steve Says:

    What an unreal night from JJ. I was nothing but wrong about his start tonight. Unbelievable performance.

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    Ham Says:

    How do we feel about the potential of Youkilis becoming a Brave? Apparently we have been scouting him a lot over the past few weeks.

    Stevie, say it – “Hammy was right(er than me).”

  107. 107
    Steve Says:

    OK, Hammy. You were right, righter, rightest.

    Youkilis seems like a very expensive bench solution. For numbers that have been unimpressive this year.

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    Curt Says:

    I would like to apologize to JJ and his mom

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    Shaun Says:

    I wouldn’t mind Youkilis if the Red Sox pay a huge chunk of his salary. That may be more of a possibility than we think. It seems the Sox want to move on to Middlebrooks for good. And I don’t know how much anyone will give up for a 33-year-old Youkilis with an 81 OPS+ this season. And he’s a “old 33″ with so much wear and tear. I doubt there is a bidding war for Youkilis. The Sox may take what they can get and pay a chunk of salary.

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    Leah Says:

    Did JJ look as masterful as the box score implies?

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    Walker Says:

    Great game to watch. Solid baseball.

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    Adam Says:

    @110 He gave up a couple of hard hit balls in the 7th, but for the first six innings all he gave up was a dinky single. I would say he looked pretty dominate.

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    Adam Says:

    hard hit balls in the 8th*

    first seven innings*

    I hate numbers.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I’m among those who thought JJ would return to 3-4 starter ability, but I thought he’d get slaughtered by the Sox. That game seemed pretty huge all around. Wish the velocity had been higher, but he looked good.

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    Ham Says:

    I was really impressed with how his slider looked. I agree that he has a need for more speed, but that was a gutty performance. Very happy for him (and for us).

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    David Says:

    I bet the Red Sox fans feel like we do when we’ve been dominated by guys like Capuano when he was with the Mets last season.

  117. 117
    Bubdylan Says:

    Delgado got the treatment I expected JJ to get from these Sox. They can rake.

  118. 118
    Curt Says:

    Oh no. Andrew Miller. Another guy who can only
    Pitch against Atlanta

  119. 119
    Curt Says:

    And there you go

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    Adam Says:

    well that was unlucky.

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    Danny Says:

    Tough loss! I just can’t imagine trading JJ for anyone who will wear the uniform for less than three or or four years. I have always revered his upside, much like Heyward. He could end up being our ace. I think his injuries and record could put even Scott Boras against the ropes. I hope we can hang on to his talent.

  122. 122
    Nate Says:

    Lol, someone actually told you guys to get bent in a tweet. I haven’t heard anyone other than Bart Simpson say that ever. I guess you really can’t expect too much from someone using the handle johnnyrod1.

    I know I’m late to the party, but way to go Jair!

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    Kate Says:

    I’m so glad Medlen is in the bullpen where we really need him.

  124. 124
    Curt Says:

    Maybe not for long after these 2 starts

  125. 125
    Adam Says:

    I thought we were going to come back for like 2 seconds but then Minor had to go and ruin everything.

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    Steve Says:

    Minor will be sent down to AAA by noon tomorrow. Bank on it.

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    Anne Says:

    I’m opening an account at the Bank of Steve.

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    David Says:

    Judging from Fredi’s postgame comments on ajc.com, it sounds like he’s not planning at all to send Minor to Gwinnett. I think this could mean one of two things:

    1) Fredi really has no plans to send Minor to Gwinnett.

    2) Fredi is completely clueless about Wren’s plans to send Minor to Gwinnett.

    Based on Fredi’s previous cluelessness regarding Larry Parrish getting fired and thinking Beachy’s elbow would be fine after only a week or two, I’m leaning towards #2. At least, I really hope this is the case.

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    Jo Bu Says:

    Here’s what we learned about Fredi from last season: Whatever Fredi says in post-game interviews usually turns out just the opposite :)

    With JJ’s great outing last start, it’s going to take about three of those starts back-to-back for me to be convinced that the JJ of old is back.

  130. 130
    Jo Bu Says:

    But at least JJ didn’t come out and do a KK on us, so that’s at least encouraging.

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    Nate Says:

    Jo Bu, I imagine you as someone who swills 140 proof whiskey straight from a bottle that was filled from a still full of glory that was brewed by you and you alone. Is this close to accurate? Lying is not frowned upon.

    I agree with #129, hell, I might need to see double what you laid out. If he’s really on I think you can bank on about a 1/2 season of quality before he starts the other half of his routine again. Even Scott Boras might find JJ to be a hard sell, but then again, this is baseball. There is no place for logic. The All-Star game determines home-field advantage in the World Series, don’t ‘cha know’?

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