July 01, 2012

Show #190: Another Week of Mixed Results

More questions about the starting rotation.  More losses to the Nationals.  Bourn, Prado, and Chipper snubbed from the All Star Game.



149 Responses to “Show #190: Another Week of Mixed Results”

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    Nate Says:

    Great show, guys. I’m at the point where I’d give up some of these young pitchers for Greinke. I just wanna win, and it feels like we’re bringing a knife into a gun fight with our pitching being what it is right now.

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    Walker Says:

    Not to be cocky but this could be a easy 4 game sweep.

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    Steve Says:

    @2 – As Curt said on the show last night, we’ve been (at least) winning the ones we should win. So yeah, I hope you’re right.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Provocative statement: Time to trade McCann.

    He came to the majors playing “older” than he was, meaning he already had “skills” like he had been here awhile.

    Well, like the standout kid in little league (early bloomer), they tend to not improve much beyond that level. And McCann has seemed to slowly digress over the years from standout to serviceable.

    Hate to see him go, but it might be time…

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    Shaun Says:

    Curt, I agree that best record should get home-field in the World Series. I’m not sure why it works for other sports but not baseball. MLB claims it has to do with travel arrangements, etc. I guess that makes some sense, as it’s narrowed down to two cities by the LCS round, giving MLB and the media plenty of time. But, that still doesn’t really explain why best record works in other sports.

    But assuming best record isn’t an option, I don’t know that the All-Star game deciding home-field deserves so much outrage. To me it’s not all that much worse, if at all, than the leagues alternating.

    McCann’s BABIP is .229, 3rd lowest in the majors (minimum 250 PA). His career BABIP is .295. I don’t think that .229 is sustainable. I expect him to break out at some point. However, I do wonder if he’s doing some thing differently to try to beat the defensive shifts and that’s affecting his overall offensive game.

    And Uggla’s doing fine. He has a .362 OBP and a .410 SLG. Uggla’s a nice example of a player who is now being slightly underrated because his baseball card stats don’t match how well he’s actually performed.

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    David Says:

    I’m currently in the middle of listening to the show, so I might be repeating some stuff here that you talk about later on in the podcast…

    In April, the Braves went 14-9 and finished the month 0.5 games out of first place. Since May 1, the Braves are 27-28. So — are the Braves just a .500 team this year?

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    Pure Says:

    Love the way Frank went about admitting he was wrong about Heyward. Humble pie! 🙂 by the way – simmons is defensive player of the month.

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    David Says:

    Great show, Curt and Frank. I also really enjoyed the Brian Jordan interview, which was a little bit of a surprise given that I’m not much of a fan of his broadcasting. His answer to the “suppose you’re the GM of this team, do you make any moves?” question was refreshingly honest, and I really appreciated what he said.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Do you folks care about the Braves (Milwaukee) 1957 World Championship? I didn’t know anything about it, so I Wiki’d it today. It’s pretty cool stuff. In case I’m not the last person here to know this stuff:

    Braves beat the Yankees in 7 games.
    Braves starter Lew Burdette won 3 games, had a 0.67 ERA.
    Burdette beat Whitey Ford in game 5, 1-0!
    Warren Spahn won game 4.
    Hank Aaron lead all batters with a .393 BA, 3 homers, 1 triple.

    Notable Braves:

    Ernie Johnson
    Eddie Matthews


    Yogi Berra
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Larsen
    Whitey Ford

    Pretty kewl.

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    Curt Says:

    Come on guys. The dude has an 11+ ERA in his last 4 starts.

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    Adam Says:

    This is a bit embarrassing

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    Bubdylan Says:

    This is freaking amazingly, stupifyingly stupid. This dude, in his last 5 starts:

    10.41 ERA
    .984 OPS against
    33 hits and 15 walks in just 23.1 innings pitched
    And his .377 babip isn’t even bad enough to begin to account for it.

    Averaging just 4 innings and some change per start. And he is freaking ONE-HITTING us through 5. This is thoroughly gross and disgusting. I’ve been holding this back, but this is the most disgusted I’ve been with them since last year.

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    Curt Says:

    Just matched his career high for Ks

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    Adam Says:


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    David Says:

    and of course that happens

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    Curt Says:

    Total joke

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    Adam Says:

    Maybe Minor should practice pitching against our offense to get his confidence up

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    Bubdylan Says:

    #17, when an unstartable force meets unwatchable object?

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    Curt Says:

    If you check sabre numbers, we actually won this game 6-3

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    Leah Says:

    This game sucks.

  21. 21
    Bubdylan Says:

    #19, post of the year.

  22. 22
    Leah Says:

    I hate baseball.

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    Nate Says:


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    eric Says:

    @5 – I think Curt was suggesting that Uggla is not doing fine right now.

    For June – .160/.327/.321. There’s nothing to underrate about that. He’s been bad. We all know Uggla is a nice player and he’ll likely come out of it, but having him in the middle of the order right now has been killing the Braves run production. See wRC+ of 77 in June.

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    Shaun Says:

    Interesting take by Fangraphs on what to do if the game really does count and the leagues really needed to win, rather than treating the All-Star game like a showcase. In other words, selecting the players based on talent level and not based on rewarding players for their performances over the first three months.


    The Braves whom writer Wendy Thurm selected: Kimbrel, Bourn, Prado and Heyward.

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