August 05, 2012

Show #195: The Braves Make a Different Trade with the Cubs

The Maholm/Johnson trade.  The starting rotation. Juan Francisco.  The Dan Struggla Meter.



102 Responses to “Show #195: The Braves Make a Different Trade with the Cubs”

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    Steve Says:

    I hadn’t seen this until after posting the show. Just to add to our Medlen conversation. It makes some sense, but I don’t like what it does to the bullpen.

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    Steve Strand Says:

    Keep Medlen in the rotation. It was only a few weeks ago that we had three reliable starters, now we have six. Somebody will pick up an injury or another ailment over the next few weeks, making the six man rotation a mute point. We cannot keep messing Medlen around. He is a starter – let him start. The bullpen will be weaker, but with a better starting rotation it will take the reduce the workload on it.

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    David Says:

    I agree that Medlen should remain in the rotation and I like Schultz’s idea of a 6-man. Maybe call up Delgado to pitch in the pen and send Rev to Gwinnett?

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    David Says:

    Starting this Friday, our schedule looks pretty favorable for the next 6-7 days, especially compared with Washington’s.

    This weekend, we play three at New York while Washington plays three in Arizona.
    Next Monday thru Thursday, we host the Padres while the Nats play in San Fran.

    Should be a very exciting couple of weeks.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Hopefully Medlen’s spot in the 2013 rotation is secured by Tommy Hanson’s departure.

    If I had to watch Juan Francisco’s fat, petulant mug at 3B for a year, I’d lose it. Just give me Escobar back before that.

    If Dan breaks out of it, you could do a segment called Chancin’ with Hanson. I’ve never seen such luck. Not just the historically lucky 7 sb, 7 bb game. Since June, he has a 7-1 record with a 4.71 ERA, and his FIP is even higher. That isn’t gonna hold out. If he comes back from his DL with a couple new MPH on his FB, I’ll be encouraged. Otherwise, I’m expecting a 1-5 stretch from him where his four leaf clover finally turns brown.

    I dunno about catching the Nats. But the postseason, one of the Wild Cards? I’m at a solid 8 there.

    That said: 3-3 this week. Phils win the series. :( Just cuz we’re due a bad series.

    Great show, as always.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    ^ misuse of “petulant” above. I meant something else.

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    Shaun Says:

    Great show, guys.

    I’m not too big a fan of 6-man rotations. It just seems to create too short a bullpen. Unfortunately I think Medlen has to be the odd man out. But perhaps they should use him more like an old-school relief ace, for 2-3 innings at a time, when necessary.

    I like Juan Francisco as a pinch-hitter and backup corner-infielder. Even if the Braves have a shot at Bourn, I’d rather them go cheap in left and put Prado at third.

    I think they should set things up to put Prado at third because that’s where he will fit in best, in my opinion, unless somehow a really good thirdbaseman falls in their lap for next to nothing.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Before Lowe, when was the last time Atlanta won a bidding war for a free agent? Just curious.

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    Curt Says:


    Only other ones I could think of were BJ and Galarraga. I’m sure there has been someone since then, but the Braves seem to have done most of their work through trades.

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    DAP Says:

    great show guys. im a little torn on the medlen thing. my head says he is flexible so keep shuffling him between the bullpen and rotation as needed. not every pitcher can do that. my heart says thats an awfully challenging thing to continue to ask medlen to do. i think he is a serviceable starter, not outstanding. but dang…maybe he should be trade bait so we can move on from the conundrum of what role should medlen fill?

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    “It’s still not quite right yet but when I get hot, I can get as hot as anybody. It’s a click away.”
    – 2B Dan Uggla on his hitting.

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    Anne Says:

    Happy “Socks-Up Monday” everybody! Go Braves!!

  13. 13
    Anonymous Says:

    I think the socks work.

  14. 14
    David Says:

    Phillies’ sellout streak ended tonight. Love it.

    And we just won. Way to start this road trip boys! A winning streak on Mondays!!

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    Walker Says:

    You have to give Wren and this organization credit. This team wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t the scouting and player development. O’Flaherty and Martinez were throwaways from their original teams. The development of Simmons, Freeman, Kimbrel, and Heyward has been amazing.Players like Prado and Medlen weren’t even considered top prospects. Bourn and Uggla(despite his current play) were practically acquired for free. All this franchise needs is a owner that cares. But until then what Wren & Company are doing is the only way a team like this can compete. Imagine how much work GM’s from Tampa, KC, and Pittsburg have to put in. It makes you realize how easy Brian Cashman’s job is.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Did I miss the explanation why the Braves pull up on the back of jerseys when the hit a homer??

    I’ll take Sheets over a guy like Dempter any day

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    Bubdylan Says:

    #15, Walker I heard it knocked around last month that Wren had gotten the second most wins per dollar in baseball behind only the Rays GM. Maybe you or someone else can confirm that quote, but I saw it a couple different places.

    It’s hard to argue with that, although some of his pick-ups have seemed like a waste of time. I guess you have to roll the dice on Ankiel, Farnsworth, and Linebrink if you want to win production from the likes of Sheets and Durbin. I suppose GM’s who plop down bagillions on Ryan Howard, K-Rod, Werth, etc are taking the same gambles. It might be interesting to see some figures on big time and small time gambles in big and small markets, respectively.

    It’s worth noting that the NL East standings right now represent the reverse order of payroll, according to Cot’s Payroll figures for the beginning of the year. Nats with just a little less money than the Braves. Phils with more than anyone, but Marlins right up there. Mets in the middle. Funny, isn’t it?

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    Steve Says:

    I do love when the HUGE spenders don’t do well. 172 mill for the Phillies to be 15 games out.

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    Curt Says:

    I should reach out to all my friends in Philly on Twitter and get their perspective on last night’s non-sellout. An amazing run, no doubt, but it is a lot easier to support a winner. No excuse for some of these painfully small crowds in Atlanta recently, but the idea they presented that they would be there through thick and thin is as misguided as suggesting they are great fans because they boo when opposing players are hurt.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    #19, human beings (roll your eyes now, cuz this will deserve it by the end of the sentence), by and large, especially modern American human beings gathered at professional sporting events, are not the place to look for any special virtue. There’s my misanthropic humbug for the day. Cubs fans being there because they have no jobs, Philly fans being there because they’re on the bandwagon, New Yorkers being there because … screw New York… all the not-so-flattering reasons a stadium is or isn’t filled are plenty logical to me.

    Maybe I’m projecting my own inner nasties, but when I look around at Turner Field, I’m not seeing much in the way of Rah Rah American Pie. I see a bored, snotty, drunk, cell-phone-preoccupied, crowd of malcontents. There are exceptions. About one in five families or couples seem nice, out for a game, etc.

    The point being, I don’t buy into any team’s fans being especially good or especially bad. People are pretty sucky, the writer of this post included. And I’d trade crowds with Philly in a heartbeat.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    ^ missing sleep. Disregard.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I just thought of something I haven’t heard anyone mention yet, something that could even us up a little bit in the ace department come playoff time.

    What if we actually pull off the best record in the league and get to play the Wild Card winner minus their ace in the first games? We’re only three games behind the best record right now, and have the easiest remaining schedule.

    The thing that bummed me out about the Maholm trade was that I felt it put us in a great position to finish out the regular season strong, but didn’t help us craft a better playoff rotation. But in this scenario, it actually could, but docking our first round opponent their own ace.

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    Anonymous Says:

    Minor looked rough early on, but he still gave us a quality start. I hope we can score so he doesn’t get the loss.

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    Adam Says:

    Heyward homer?

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    Bubdylan Says:


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