Sheets gave up only 4 earned runs, not 6. not that it makes me warm and fuzzy, since we still lost. just saying. sheets’ ERA is still 2.13, and without his stuff last night, sheets battled for 6 innings.
i say no to a 5 man rotation, by the way. i want to take the best 5 and have them pitch as much as possible. im not sure when hanson is coming off the DL, but maybe give huddy another start and then see if he needs to skip one, or see how minor does in his next try, before picking the top 5 and going with it. heck, sheets might be hitting a bump in the road and could use a breather. maybe let him skip a start. but, i wouldnt just do a 6 man rotation.
Lets assume the Braves and Pirates clinch the wild card before the final series of the season when they face each other. They would face each other 4 games straight. It would basically be a 4 game series where the first 3 games are meaningless and the 4th game is for all the chips. Weird scenario. Win 1 of 4 and win it all. But that 1 win has to be the right game.
The Braves will sweep the Padres. The six man rotation seems great. And Frank Wren is one of the best GMs in baseball. I’m a little worried about the state of position players in the farm system though.
walker “Frank Wren is one of the best GMs in baseball. I’m a little worried about the state of position players in the farm system though.”
Wren is really good. I say this offseason needs to be about locking up the young players, then spend the next few years drafting the crap out of high upside, toolsy players. no more of these 22 year old crafty lefties, topping out at 88mph.
I certainly agree that the playoff scenario is a joke. The Braves will probably be better than at least one of the teams getting a pass from the one-game playoff. The Braves may be better than two of those teams. Because MLB thinks geography should be a major factor in playoff seeding, the Braves will be forced in to the one-game playoff instead of an inferior team or two.
There has to be a way to get MLB its money and attention while still appropriately awarding regular season success and avoiding punishment for those teams that happen to play in strong divisions.
Morning radio here in Atlanta was positing that Hanson was pissed about having to make a rehab start in Gwinnett because he looked at it like a tryout given how well everyone is doing in the starting rotation (this was on 790theZone this morning and I only heard the tease about it).
Does this make much sense to folks? It doesn’t to me. Why isn’t it just to get him sharp and make sure he feels ok after throwing in a game situation?
Curt @8, I think the Braves will sign Prado for $10M-$12M a season. Quality thirdbasemen are hard to find and that’s a reasonable price for Prado, who can be an everyday thirdbaseman and can also play other positions. Unless a thirdbaseman falls in their lap, I think Prado is the guy for the next few seasons.
I think they may go cheap in left and try to get a pretty good centerfielder, if they can’t re-sign Bourn. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them go with a platoon of Reed Johnson and someone else in left, with Johnson also serving as the primary back-up outfielder.
Steve @10, I guess you didn’t hear whether they had a source or if the 790 folks were just speculating?
I can’t imagine that being the case. I could sort of understand if he were a veteran position player but pitchers usually always make rehab starts after injuries, so I can’t imagine Hanson is oblivious to this fact.
Not to sound snobby but it seems sports talk radio often overlooks and/or doesn’t understand the nuances of baseball. In their defense, baseball does have all these unique little nuances and rules and customs, many of which exist for good reasons, but that are very different from other sports. Sports talk radio gets by on broad appeal of all sports and on controversy, things that don’t play well with baseball.
The Braves have enough money to keep either Prado or Bourn. PICK ONE AND SIGN HIM!
No seriously, if Prado wants 11 million for 5 years sign him. He’s extremely versatile and too valuable. Plus the state of 3rd basemen around the MLB is pretty sad. Hang on to him.
I assume Wren already has plans to give Heyward, Freeman, And Kimbrel their deals to allow us to control them through their arbitration and a couple of their free agency years. Thats important because you know we eventually can’t keep all three for the rest of their careers.
Shaun – regarding local sports talk, I would tend to agree with you, but Chris Dimino is a very sharp baseball guy, and I’m not just saying that because he has been on our show a couple of times. He also has some deep connections with the players.
Now, do I agree with that assessment of this Hanson start, no. I can’t imagine a scenario where Hanson is not part of the rotation, even as bad as he has been. Particularly, post-AS break the last couple of years.
Curt @13, yeah, there are a few guys who know what they are talking about when they talk baseball. I like what I’ve heard from Dimino. He’s one of the few. I just wonder if he was involved in the Hanson talk, if someone actually had sources or if it was speculation.
I actually think Hanson in some ways has been a little underrated. I realize he’s been inconsistent and he’s not the pitcher we all hoped he would be. But he’s given the team decent innings, if nothing else. He’s going to have some blow-ups and he rarely shuts teams down but for the most part he’s going to go out and give you an outing that keeps the team in the game to some degree or another, if the offense does its part. He’s one of those players that gets judged on his expectations instead of what he actually offers.
Gonzalez said Hanson uttered an obscenity at him and pitching coach Roger McDowell after they told him the plan.
“Which is good,” said Gonzalez, who laughed upon mentioning the incident to reporters. “He wants to get back in there. That’s why he was grumpy.”
After meeting with Gonzalez and McDowell, Hanson told reporters, “I’m not in a good mood,” then changed from his workout gear and left the clubhouse to go catch a flight back for the Monday game at Gwinnett.
Fellas – podcast question: I am subscribed to ABT on iTunes. Sometimes I listen to it at work on the website and then don’t download it for that week, since I already listened. Does NOT downloading it prove problematic for you as far as having ratings numbers? Do they count via subscribers or via downloads week-to-week? Not like you’re vying for Kevin Smith’s or Adam Carolla’s #1 & 2 seats or anything…or are you??
Hey Anne. First off, thanks for asking and caring. We measure our “listens” by each time the mp3 file is accessed. And that’s the same as when you listen to it on the site or via iTunes. All of which to say, either way is fine and results in the same “listen.”
on Hanson, come on, now it is wrong and diva behavior for a guy to show his frustration by cussing a bit? what is better, he smiles and says “Great!”. “Thank you sir may I have another!”
What a load of talk radio/blog fodder bs. Sounds like high school musical. “Did you hear, Tommy frowned and said a dirty word”.. get over it.. lets hope he sorts it out and comes back strong, and the fact that he is slighly grumpy about it..being his career and everything…only a good sign
Wow Melky you let your team down. You are a free agent and you just lost alot of money. You lost respect. You were the MVP of the All Star Game and your team is in the middle of a playoff race. Horrible just Horrible. Maybe you can get off with the Ryan Braun defense. Try it. Who knows?
So… McCann & Uggla have career worst years, Beachy out for the year, Venters blows up his ERA, Jurrjens implodes so badly he could be DFA’d in the winter, and Tommy Hanson isn’t far behind him. Minor, Delgado, and Teheran post ERA’s of 4.93, 4.42, and 8.31 respectively. Starting SS completely flops. His replacement breaks his hand.
Result: on pace for 94 wins. Just like we drew it up.
We needed super years from Bourn, Prado, Chipper, and Kimbrel to overcome those things. Not to mention improvements from Freeman and Heyward. The outfield defense has been stellar and so has our GM. And dare I say it, I have not criticized Fredi Gonzalez in over a month. He’s still not a good manager though.
51 — That’s awesome! Isn’t it the best when you’re at the game and you can see the trajectory of the ball and know right away that it’s a homer? And when it’s coming right at you — that’s pretty cool too. I was at Beachy’s complete game in May and Freddie’s HR landed a row behind me and about 5 seats to my right.
Chipper homers twice (on his bobble head night), Heyward homers, Medlen looks dominant, and the Nationals have the night off so we’re guaranteed to make up ground if this lead holds. Pretty good night I’d say.
Was there tonight with all 3 of my kids (a first) so it was pretty special going in. But that game was something else. Post season wins aside, I can’t remember enjoying a game more. And there really is something soooooo goose bump inducing about a curtain call. And to demand two in the same night, from Chipper no less. It was a special night. And you layer Medlen’s performance and the defense over it all. Just unbelievable.
As I see it, the three starting pitchers this weekend against the Dodgers (Hanson, Sheets and Minor) are the three that are truly battling for starting rotation spots in September. Huddy, Medlen and Maholm are in.
I don’t think Ben Sheets has anything to worry about. The decision is between Minor and Hanson. Sheets, even in his losses has been above average.
Anyway, I just found out about B-Mac’s shoulder injury. Every year he seems to have an injury in which he doesn’t take the time to let it heal and he ends up hurting the team in the process. McCann needs to go on the DL for a couple weeks and let it heal. Ross can handle the job just fine. McCann needs to realize we need him at the end of September. His offensive numbers this year have been miserable.
If Medlen leaves the starting rotation again I will officially lose my mind. Just because he can pitch out of the bullpen doesn’t mean he should. Aren’t we like 17-1 since 2010 in games Kris Medlen starts? If I’m putting a rotation together, that might be a number I pay attention to.
This sure has been a great second half for our Bravos. They are beating the teams they should beat and beating the teams they need to beat (for the most part, anyway). As long they keep winning series’
MLB needs do do something about this stupid one-game play-in.. that’s just a bunch of horse poo.
Heard HR and and the gang on MLBN talking about Fransico being Chipper’s Heir apparent. WHAT? WhatT? WHAT??!!
Listen, I know Fredi and Frank had a little talk with him and basically told him that he needed to get his act together or he won’t be a Brave much longer which seems to have lit a fire under his ass, but I’ve not quite bought-in to him playing 3rd full-time and being a free swinning out the majority of that time.
I was at the game tonight. When we got there everyone was still abuzz about Chipper’s 2 HR game. When he hit that homerun in the 2nd inning the place went bananas. I swear I saw somebody throw a baby in the chaos.
Did anybody see Loney (think it was him) purposefully throw a bat at a fan after he grounded out in the 9th inning? It bounced off the netting in front of the fan, but myself and everyone around me was shocked Loney didn’t get ejected. Crazy stuff.
And a big congrats to Francisco!! Still don’t want you to be our 3rd basemen next year. Nice hit though.
Adam, I don’t think he was deliberately throwing the bat at a fan. He was mad at a call and that was his response after grounding out. It was very childish and even more dangerous when you take into account where it ended up. For the record, Mattingly let him hear about it when he got back to the dugout.
Nice crowd wasted on that one. Sheets got squeezed on a couple but he was up and slow. That and he never should have pitched to Hanley the 2nd time. He should have been pulled after he walked Ethier, or he should have just let Hanley walk when it was 3-0 and taken his chances. Yeah the bases are loaded, but there are 2 outs. At some point their line was 6 runs, 4 hits, 0 LOB.
“I don’t know who told you that,” McCann said Saturday. “I don’t have a subluxation. That’s false. I have a cyst that’s sitting on the joint and I’ve got a frayed labrum, a little bit of a fray in my labrum. But that [treatment including possible surgery] is something that we’ll have to decide when the season’s over….
“I got an MRI a while back. That’s what the tests showed. That’s what’s been causing the pain, there’s a cyst that’s sitting on the joint.”
The frayed labrum and cyst are directly related to the subluxation, a Braves official said. The team hopes that McCann, a six-time former All-Star can avoid surgery.
@126 – Saw something from DOB last night about that same topic. He said there was no talk of tipping pitches in the clubhouse post game. I think Sheets may just be tipping the fact that he’s not that good.