August 19, 2012

Show #197: The Braves Pitching Competition Heats Up

Does the Dodgers series mean anything?  Who’s locked in to the starting rotation?  More  Chipper love and McCann’s shoulder injury.



157 Responses to “Show #197: The Braves Pitching Competition Heats Up”

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    ham Says:

    Testing . . . testing . . . 1 . 2 . 3.

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    DAP Says:

    y’all sure we cant beat good pitchers? weve beaten santana, dickey, gio gonzalez, stasburg, adam wainwirght, lance lynn, josh johnson, bumgarner, burle, halladay, ect….many of the best pitchers in our league.

    even some big time AL pitchers like lester, james shields, and david price.

    the braves can beat good pitchers.

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    Curt Says:

    Who said we can’t beat good pitchers?

    I sure didn’t. I said that I felt that good pitchers were more likely to dominate our hitters than our pitchers were to dominate other lineups. Never said anything about an inability to beat good pitchers.

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    Curt Says:


    The Braves haven’t won a series from a team that is currently above .500 since June 26-28, when they took two of three from Arizona.

    Dropping the final two games of the Dodgers series only served to underscore a sore point: The Braves are 26-30 against plus-.500 opposition, and they’re 10-20 against teams that are leading divisions. This week they’ll play three games against Washington and four against San Francisco, and they’re 5-10 against those two.

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    ham Says:

    DAP – I said that, and upon reflection I probably overstated it.

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    DAP Says:

    There is certainly reason to “fear” great starting pitching in a short series, especially a one gamer. I understand the apprehension. But do you really think a pitcher like Kershaw, Gonzalez, Strasberg, Cueto, ect, looks at the Braves lineup and says “Piece of cake…” ?

    We’ve gotten beat by good pitchers, and weve beaten good pitchers. The Braves (as you guys said) are worthy of where they are in the league right now.

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    Curt Says:

    I love our lineup. I think it is as strong as anyone out there. Certainly anyone in the NL. The Braves are not going to be taken lightly by anyone. And I don’t think an opposing team says, “we get to face the Braves pitching. no sweat.”

    I’ll admit, I am a little jaded by this Dodger’s series. Really wanted to win that one. And really didn’t want to look as dominated as the Braves were. But, a new week is here and taking 2 of 3 in DC and 3 of 4 in SF will solve all my problems.

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    DAP Says:

    curt “The Braves haven’t won a series from a team that is currently above .500 since June 26-28, when they took two of three from Arizona.”

    they have only played 3 series against teams who currently are above .500 since then. one of those was the split 4 gamer vs. the nats. also, the reason some of those teams arent above .500 right now is because the braves are beating the crap out of them. phillies are 9 games under .500, braves have beaten them 9 times, mets are 7 games under, braves have beaten them 7 times. just saying.

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    DAP Says:

    Curt, as far teh the Dodgers series goes, the Braves got flat out beat yesterday. Billingsley was awesome and has been pitching really well lately. Saturday was the head scratcher. That time we beat ourselves. I think the Braves are capable of winning 5 games this week.

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    Steve Says:

    @9 – I feel that way too. It is really a tremendous test. And a great opportunity to see what our revitalized starting pitching can do against above .500 competition. I firmly believe that Sheets will be the odd man out, so I’m thinking this coming Thursday in SF is a lost cause, but what the will the rest of them do. Damn, this is the most exciting week in a long time.

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    Curt Says:

    DAP, those are figures from the AJC, so thanks for adding some clarity, but us “beating the crap” out of the Mets and the Phils is a feat that isn’t really all that impressive. Both of those teams are bad this year. We aren’t the only ones beating the crap out of them.

    10-20 against division leaders can’t be so easily dismissed. We all knew the Braves had a favorable schedule in the 2nd half, and to their credit they have taken care of business. That is as important as anything. You have to beat the teams you are supposed to beat. This week will be a better test of where we are overall.

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    David Says:

    Great podcast as always, fellas. My only question is: why wasn’t this one simply titled, “Sweep = Good. Swept = Bad.” or something along those lines?

    I do think Sheets goes to the pen, especially with September call-ups. I think that the more innings he goes, the less confidence there is in his arm.

    As for us not being the only ones to beat up on the Mets and Phils — I think that’s besides the point. Fact is that in years past, a bunch of other teams were beating up on other teams (Nationals) that we had trouble beating.

    Also, Ken Rosenthal with some good stuff about our bullpen:

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    Curt Says:

    David, and the Phils have certainly owned us the past couple of years. Good point.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Do you think that Sheets started off so well because he was “new” to everyone? Kind of like when the Braves see a new arm they look dumbfounded.

    I like the guy, but he seems to be the odd man out.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    BTW…. not braves related…

    Clemens make a minors start on Saturday. Yes, ROGER Clemens. Fast ball is 87mph

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    Adam Says:

    That first run is HUGE! Way to go Heyward.

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Looks like a long night ahead… Tim is leaving the ball up so far…

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Everything but his curve ball is at or above the belt… And Washington is hitting them HARD!

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    Adam Says:

    Get Hudson out of there. He’s done.

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    Ham Says:


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    Curt Says:

    That went poorly

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    You guys sure you want Tim to start that important game against Washington?

    Three starts against Washington this season…

    Three times they have put a 1st inning four spot on him…

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Maybe Tim can make him throw 15 or 20 pitches…

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    Ham Says:

    Well, at least if there is a one game playoff in our future with Hudson starting, we won’t have to face the Nats. That’s something, right?

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    Steve Says:

    I walked upstairs to put my son to bed with a 1 – 0 lead and came back to find it 4 – 1. Unbelievable. Maybe Tim will settle down. And Zimmerman’s pitch count is high, so that’s something this early.

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