August 26, 2012

Show #198: The Braves Right the Ship

The good and bad of this week. The impact of the Dodgers trade. McCann’s 2013 option. And Mac vs. Uggla: Who’s doing more damage?



138 Responses to “Show #198: The Braves Right the Ship”

  1. 1
    DAP Says:

    Great show guys. One thing is for sure about this team…its interesting.Chipper’s farewell tour, along with Heyward and Freeman coming of age…its alot of fun, most of the time.

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    Steve Says:

    And that’s what was particularly remarkable for me this past week that it was so decidedly NOT fun for stretches. But this team, as evidenced by the last two games in SF is not falling over and is continuing to find enough offense to win.

    Hopefully Mac’s performance last night is the start of better production from him. If he would just get on base over .325 and hit better than .250 it would be an enormous boon.

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    Shaun Says:

    This team just has very few weak spots and it just feels like the bad stretches won’t last as long.

    Last season there were gaping holes in the lineup in centerfield (even after Bourn came in he wasn’t good) and at shortstop, then there were the nagging injuries/infection from Prado and Heyward. All of that sort of set the tone, it seemed. Then, towards the end, the bullpen was overworked and the starting staff seemed drained.

    This season it seems like they have the players at every position. Even if one or two struggle, you know the rest of the team will pick them up at some point and not allow an extremely awful stretch of games.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Not to hit (no pun) on Uggla again….but besides his awful or lack there of hitting, he had that bad error and a couple of base running mistakes recently.

    So when Simmons and Wilson get healthy do we drop Janish? I am thinking Janish over Wilson….

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    Steve Says:

    @3 – Shaun, you’re right. And I fully intended to reference your latest blog in the show last night but somehow never did. All – good stuff in Shaun’s latest blog.

    @4 – Janish over Wilson. Not even close.

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    Leah Says:

    Great show! Go Braves! I was too stupid not to be concerned this time last year. Since my baseball heart has already been broken I can’t seem to believe this year. Trying to…can’t do it.

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    Walker Says:

    I’m loving this

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    Shaun Says:

    Steve @5, thanks.

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    Walker Says:

    Fredi wont even stand up for his players. Argue Fredi!

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    Curt Says:

    The homers.

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    Steve Says:

    @10 – I thought of you immediately.

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    Walker Says:

    Only down by 2 so we bring in Batista. Venters? O’Flaherty?

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    Christopher Wilder Says:

    I have a question; How could you find out who the Braves have claimed on waivers? Or you will never know? Jacoby Ellisbury is an intriguing thought, imo

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Have you read this? Thoughts?

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    Walker Says:


    That was the dumbest article I’ve ever read. We’re trying to win a championship right?

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    Steve Says:

    @13 – Waiver claims are secret. Only if someone leaks something do you find out.

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    Steve Says:

    Not looking good for the Nats tonight. GOTS TO WIN.

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    Leah Says:

    Phillies winning, Nats losing, Kemp and Molina injured in potentially big ways. Crazy night in baseball.

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    Curt Says:

    How about the Nats and Cards both losing 9-0

  20. 20
    Leah Says:

    I’m tellin’ ya…something’s in the air. Hope it’s blowing our way!

  21. 21
    Christopher Wilder Says:

    Maybe the baseball gods are coming full circle? Braves had key injuries last year.

  22. 22
    Ham Says:

    Click “Like” if you love Kris Medlen.

    Wait, what site is this?

  23. 23
    Bub Says:

    Someone high up in this organization needs to walk up to Medlen, take off his hat, lower his head … lower … and allow Kris to punch him dead in the face. How many wins have we thrown in the trash by keeping this guy pushed back?

    (Now he’ll give up four runs in the next inning and go to the DL with a warped ass…)

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    Bub Says:

    The really should subtract a hit from a pitcher’s WHIP when he picks ’em off like Wyatt Earp.

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    Bub Says:

    If they L.A. Bluesox miss the playoffs I will die of laughter.

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    Bub Says:


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    Bub Says:

    Even if I was right handed I’d pitch to the Braves with my left hand.

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    Bub Says:

    Kris is trying to get his WHIP under 1.00 before Uggla’s BA goes under .200; good luck, Meds.

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    Bub Says:

    lol, still they lean too far. still the medman picks them off.

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    Steve Says:

    The pickoffs are too good to be believed. I’m going to break into Curt’s house tonight and steal the Medlen poster out of his bedroom.

    By the way, if you haven’t seen this yet, it’s pretty damn good:

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    Walker Says:

    Kris Medlen is a pitching GENIUS.

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    Bub Says:

    #30 is the best thing I’ve ever seen.

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    Bub Says:


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    Adam Says:

    Instead of resigning Michael Bourn we should invest the money into cloning technology. We need more Medlens.

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    Bub Says:

    Ahh, the ol’ Homer-and-hat-trick that Adam Dunn patented.

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    Bub Says:

    Padres never had a chance.

    8 innings of Meds + 1 inning of Kimbrel = thanks for playing.

    Strike 3 to Venable, strikes 2 and 3 to Headley, and strike 1 to Quentin all made my wee-woo move.

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    Nate Says:


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    Leah Says:

    I wish someone had figured out how great a starter Kris would make. Who knew???? So glad for an early game tomorrow. Good night and Go Braves!

  39. 39
    Nate Says:

    2013 Rotation: Beachy, Medlen, Hudson, Minor, Maholm

    So, can we just let Bourn go and trade Hanson and Teheran for some hitting in the offseason?

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    Nate Says:

    Is Medlen pitcher of the month?

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    Nate Says:

    #37 was in reference to Kimbrel’s 9th. I was drooling, so I couldn’t add to the comment.

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    Walker Says:

    I don’t agree with trading Tehran. Trading Delgado would be better.

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    Ham Says:

    I thought #37 was in response to #36.

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    Nate Says:

    Saw this on the postgame report, Medlen is 4-0 in August with a 0.51 ERA. Is that good?

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Curt it is ok to have a “man crush” on a sports figure right? I think so! 🙂

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    ham Says:

    Even Meds’ post-game comments are lights out. I can’t believe that Curt wanted to keep him in the bullpen for so long.

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    Frigatedoc Says:

    Ham, So with that being said about the bullpen….what if he had started all year?

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    Curt Says:

    No kidding. How stupid was I.

    Doc, absolutely. And Medlen looks like a cuddler.

    ESPN now has an innings meter on Strasburg. Turns out if he gets shelled, he gets pulled earlier, thereby keeping him around longer this season. I’ll take that trade off.

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    Curt Says:

    PS – ESPN sucks

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    David Says:

    PS – Hanson sucks

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    Curt Says:

    Honestly, if you are an opposing team, don’t you have 3 lefties who throw 70 miles an hour just ready to go when you play the Braves?

  52. 52
    Curt Says:

    I think Balsley needs to be an adjective

  53. 53
    Curt Says:

    so bad

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    Curt Says:

    5-5 would have been so much cooler than 4-6

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    Leah Says:

    Can we move Hanson to the pen too?

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    Adam Says:

    We can’t really blame Hanson for this one. He gave up 4 runs and 1 of them was unearned. Our offense scored 2 runs and one of them was unearned as well. I’m putting this one on our offense.

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    Leah Says:

    #56 although he didn’t really pitch that long either.

  58. 58
    Leah Says:

    And you can blame our offense. An Fredi for having Prado at 1st. 4 different positions wasn’t enough?

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    Bub Says:

    Was a good day to be stuck reading Southern History.

  60. 60
    Walker Says:

    If we can just have one more 7 or 8 game winning streak left in us we would be just fine.

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    Curt Says:

    Phillies and Rockies both playing really well right now and we might be getting Halladay, Lee, Hamels. Need some good starts this weekend.

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    will Says:

    This is one of my alltime fave bands and they sent this out to people on their mailing list…its a collection of live shows in athens. I have now wasted about an hour…its awesome…

    Theres a bunch of other bands too that people might like, Wilco, Cracker, Dinosaur Jr and lots I dont know…no Everett Brothers, sorry, I know that is a popular one on this board.

    If you dont know “Another Song About the Rain” by Cracker…you def should…

  63. 63
    will Says:

    and another must listen Cracker song is “Eurotrash Girl” , just listening now…Johnny Hickman shreds guitar…he has that high lonesome Les Paul tone…ossm

    sorry…non- braves diversion

    go braves

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    ham Says:

    Will, good stuff, although its the Avett Brothers I think. (Leah just fired you from the comments board.) I would add Built To Spill to your list, especially their album You In Reverse. I have been wearing that out on my iPod lately.

    That and Call Me Maybe.

  65. 65
    will Says:

    thanks Ham…

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    Leah Says:

    Oh Will…you have been in Hong Kong for way too long.

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    Walker Says:

    Im glad the 2 teams we are competing for a playoff spot with will be beating up on each other this weekend.

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    Leah Says:

    Walker, it’s hard to know who to cheer for!

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    Walker Says:

    When in doubt always cheeer against the Nats.

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    Steve Says:

    @69 – Indeed.

    LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Eurotrash Girl. That whole Kerosene Hat album is just spectacular.

    Nervous about this weekend.

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    Walker Says:

    Did anybody do any Eastwooding today? Lol

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    Shaun Says:

    Congratulations to Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus, as he was named Astros Director of Pro Scouting. I know he’s been on ABT a few times.

    If you’ve never listened to Baseball Prospectus’s Up & In podcast, download some episodes now. I guarantee you that you’ll know more about the game after listening to a few.

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    Leah Says:

    Bub, can you explain once again what’s wrong with Mac’s eyes? You know he reads these posts.

  74. 74
    Leah Says:

    …when he can see.

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    Curt Says:

    I’m more worried about his bat.

    Thank you, Marty

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    Leah Says:


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    Curt Says:


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    Leah Says:


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    Curt Says:

    Sometimes needs to tell Minor that when he does get run support he needs to shut the other team down.

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    Leah Says:

    Thanks strUggla.

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    Leah Says:

    Curt, your sentence made me laugh.

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    Leah Says:

    The worst of the very bad words.

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    Adam Says:

    Kimbrel 🙁

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    Leah Says:

    Bound to happen every 100th batter or so.

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    Curt Says:

    Yeah, I just want us to not blow this game. Again.

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    Adam Says:

    and thats the ballgame folks. Goodnight.

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    Curt Says:

    Scratch that. Martinez……… Man is he bad right now.

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    Curt Says:

    4-1 lead on Halladay. Can’t lose that game 3 times.

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    Curt Says:

    Can we bring some relievers up and release Martinez?

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    Ham Says:


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    Walker Says:

    It’s unfortunate Kimbrel who makes half a million dollars is never able to pitch more than 1 inning.

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    Curt Says:

    It’s unfortunate that the Braves are playing like they did last year.

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    will Says:

    Its fortunate that I read these posts before looking at
    somehow think we didn’t make up ground vs the Nats.
    I’ll skip straight to

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    Steve Says:

    Last night was so depressing. Losing, winning, tied, winning, tied, lose. Horrible. The good news is it’s September – our best month!

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    Curt Says:

    Yes. It’s playing out so much better today.

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    Bub Says:

    So… we’re actually gonna keep this up until we miss the playoffs? In spite of having the easiest second half schedule in the entire league? Seem right.

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    Curt Says:


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    Bub Says:

    In the three seconds it took me to think, “I guess I’d rather the Nats win this game, since the Cards are our real comp…” the Cards won. :/

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    Walker Says:

    This team isn’t fun to watch right now.

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    Leah Says:

    Huddy and Medlen at the Auburn game having a grand ole time.

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    Bub Says:

    Huddy and Meds are Clemson fans? 8)

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    Chris Says:

    I can’t wait to hear what the postseason hope meter is this week….this is a nightmare all over again…

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    Leah Says:

    Bub, it has NOT been a happy home the last 14 hours or so. Our poor children.

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    Bub Says:

    Leah, tell him Bama is taking applications for new fans. Hope that helps. 🙂

    (I’m really not gloating; I think Michigan is butt-awful and I’ve seen this script before. I expect Bama to get caught off guard & lose one. Then lose one or two more out of deflation.)

    Anyway… go Braves?

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    Bub Says:

    Can this week’s show be called “Braves wrong the ship”?

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    Bub Says:

    Or, in opposite to “right,” how about “Braves left the ship”?

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    Curt Says:

    Braves wreck the ship? Braves ship the bed?

    Reminder: No show tonight due to the holiday. And depression. We will be back on tomorrow night.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    the suckfest continues.

  109. 109
    Kate Says:

    I hate baseball.

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    Adam Says:

    1st inning. 0-4 with RISP. Words can’t even describe.

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    Bub Says:

    Of the 162 games of baseball, I watch or listen to about 100. That’s three hundred hours per year. Plus time online celebrating or lamenting, so double that. 600 hours per year. There are 112 waking hours in a week. That’s 5.35 entire waking weeks spent on this per year.

    5.35 entire waking weeks. On this. This product. This very, very bad product. I hate the Braves and I hate myself for pouring out this much of my life on them. They seriously, absolutely, disgustingly, suck dirt.

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    Curt Says:

    On the bright side, we might be done with Fredi

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    Walker Says:

    On another bright side, we inexplicably still hold a semi comfortable wild card lead. But come back to me in a week and this could change if we don’t start playing better.

    I wonder if it’s conditioning. Does this team physically run into a brick wall in September? Remember in 2010 when we barely made the playoffs, we a run down bunch that September too.

    R.I.P Mac Thomason

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    113:Yeah, we thought that last September about the comfortable lead in the WC.
    I’ll take knowing now by not getting in then some major collapse — but I guess there’s really not much of a difference at this point in the season. Days are just falling off of the calendar now and it’s down to where every game counts just like in football.

    At least in 2010 we didn’t have a massive collapse like 2011 and apparently 2012.
    It does kinda make you wonder what’s going on in the clubhouse at this time of the season. Do guys really like to play for Fredi?

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    Bub Says:


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    Bub Says:

    That’s the most insane thing I’ve seen since … I dunno … Brooks Conrad.

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    Adam Says:

    THE MAN IS A HERO! Glad I didn’t stop watching! WOW!

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    Bub Says:

    I did stop watching. Turned it back on about one minute ago, looked at score, looked at men on bases, looked at Chipper, looked at Paps, pitch, HR, game over.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    I went to the car (to go to a store that was already closed) and I heard this noise as if my radio was not tuned in. Then I heard Jim Power come back from his apparent long paus and said, can you believe what just happened?

    Jim Powell is not my favorite annoucer, in fact, I don’t care for him at all. But I gotta tell ya something, this was not only his greatest call, it was a call for Braves Nation all time. That call ranks up there with Skip Carey’s Braves Win call. If you all get a chance to hear it, you gotta, it was a great call!

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    Bub Says:

    Better than his, “and this stadium is upside down!” call? Gotta try and find it.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Oh yes, Bub. Really, it was an outstanding call.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    I can’t find it just yet but I’ll bet you a week’s pay that MLB network will feature it because I can’t imagine Chip topping this call.

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    Bub Says:

    Can’t wait to hear it. I like his big calls better than his … all the other stuff he says. 🙂

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    I think his big calls are dissapointing… and don’t even mention Don Sutton’s monotoned, fake enthusiastic calls. No, this one, because of the whole situation will go down as one of the best of Chipper’s and Braves history.

  125. 125
    Steve Says:

    First off, UNBELIEVABLE. And I’ll fully admit that I stopped watching in the 5th inning and was catching up on Louis episodes with my wife when I got a text from a buddy saying “can you f***ing believe it!?” I knew right then we’d come back and won, but it was far better than I’d imagined. I’ve watched the Prado double and Chipper HR about 15 times so far. So great.

    And whose call are we talking about? Jim Powell’s? I hope so, because you hear Chip’s call on the video and it sucks as usual.

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    Steve Says:

    By the way, go read DOB’s game wrap-up article for the Chipper quote about coming to bat in the bottom of the 9th that he said three hours BEFORE today’s game. It makes the whole thing even better – if that’s possible.

  127. 127
    Steve Says:

    Just saw this sad news about Mac at Braves Journal. It’s been coming, but it’s terribly sad now that it’s here:

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    125: Yes, Steve. Jim Powell. And you are right, Chip’s call — meh!

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    Walker Says:


    Chipper’s swing on that Papelbon fastball is seriously the most perfect baseball swing I’ve seen in my entire life. Absolute perfect form. Put that in the Baseball encyclopedia.

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    Jo-Bu Says:

    Jim Powell’s call. Well, it seemed to sound better the first time on the radio. But for him, it’s pretty good. 1:24 mark or this clip.

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    Curt Says:

    That is a really nice call from Jim Powell. How amazing it must have been to witness it in person.

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    will Says:



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    will Says:

    this one has all 3 calls including the Phillies….

  134. 134
    Adam Says:

    I’m enjoying this game so far.

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    Curt Says:


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    Leah Says:

    @133. I really enjoyed the Phillies’ announcer there. Great win today! Go Braves!

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    will Says:

    @136 when i pasted that link I swar it was to a clip that had all 3 calls strung together….and now it is just the Phillies call….bit weird…but listening to the Phillies call is good “Its a crazy game”

    in other news, the Nats will not lose

  138. 138
    Leah Says:

    Neeeeew show!

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