September 23, 2012

Show #202: The Braves Continue March Toward Postseason

The impact of Medlen. Praising Minor. Worrying about Hanson.  Comparing this September to last September.



77 Responses to “Show #202: The Braves Continue March Toward Postseason”

  1. 1
    Frigatedoc Says:

    I may be crazy…..but looking at he upcoming games for us and the Nats…. we can still win this thing. (The East)

    IF we do I would actually bank at Suntrust….and my daughter is not even engaged yet.

  2. 2
    will Says:

    @1 was doing same thing today

  3. 3
    David Says:

    Wow, Curt — good call:

    Josh Johnson’s career splits, 1st half vs. 2nd half:

    1st half: 33-18, 2.71 ERA, 1.186 WHIP (518.2 IP, 80 starts); 25 HR
    2nd half: 23-18, 3.74 ERA, 1.291 WHIP (392 IP, 63 starts); 33 HR

    This year, he’s been better in the 2nd half (4.06 1st half ERA vs. 3.56 2nd half), but for most of his career, he’s been a 1st half pitcher.

  4. 4
    Steve Says:

    @3 – Curt, way to make up stuff and have it be true! If only Hammy could tap in to that power.

  5. 5
    Curt Says:

    See, I knew what I was talking about the whole time……

  6. 6
    Shaun Says:

    Thanks for the congrats on last week’s show. I’m not sure the newborn could play second base right now, but perhaps my three-year-old could handle it.

  7. 7
    Curt Says:

    Can he lay off a high fastball?

  8. 8
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    I think the real problem for Medlen and the Cy is that he won’t have enough innings to qualify for the ERA title…

  9. 9
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    “The Myth” that they decided to pitch Medlen in the bullpen early so he would be available late to be a starter, if needed – while still keeping him to a 160-ish inning limit ala Strausburg, was confirmed by Joe Simpson during a Braves broadcast detailing a conversation Joe had with Fredi in Spring Training.

    However, I agree with you that they never really expected Medlen to be THIS good as a starter…

  10. 10
    Shaun Says:

    Here’s a philosophical question about the Cy Young: Should the voters punish guys like Medlen, Kimbrel, Chapman, etc. because of the way their teams use them?

    If the Cy Young should go to the pitcher with the most value, I don’t think either of these guys has thrown enough innings to accrue enough value. But baseball convention dictates teams only use pitchers like Kimbrel for one inning at a time, mostly in save situations. Should the voters punish Kimbrel for baseball’s strange convention of concentrating too much on the save or the last inning or whatever managers are concentrating on when they decide to use relievers in the ways that they use them these days?

    But should we go down this path? If our rationale is refusing to punish Kimbrel for modern bullpen usage, what’s to stop some mid-season call-up from winning the MVP, or something like that?

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    Mark in Memphis Says:

    The most interesting case playoff scenario for me is that the Braves tie for the division, which means a one game playoff for the division, and in this case, then a one game play-in wildcard game, and then the real playoffs start… What fun…

  12. 12
    Shaun Says:

    You know what would be hilarious and would piss me off to no end at the same time? If the Phillies came back, won the second wild card, then beat the Braves in the one-game playoff.

  13. 13
    DAP Says:

    Great show guys. I feel very good about the Braves heading into the playoffs. Thats something I couldnt have said last year if they had squeaked in, and I couldnt say it in 2010 when they did squeak in. September is when young players can sometimes hit a wall, so Fredi needs to spend the next two weeks getting everybody some rest. if Jason and Freddie catch thier wind, we could do alot of damage in the playoffs, and I honestly see that happening for us this year. I’m not seeing one and done, and I’m not seeing us whimper in defeat in the DS.

  14. 14
    Walker Says:

    I don’t really consider the wild card game the part of the real playoffs. I will be rooting like heck in that one game but who really knows what the hell will happen. It’s so fake and artificial to me. If we get to the Division Series then my hopes for the World Series Championship goes sky high. Until then my expectations are extremely tempered.

    I have a extreme idea. How about next year make the wild card round a 2 game series. What????? Let me explain. Give the wild card club with the highest seed both games at home and require them to only win 1 of the 2 games to move on to the Division round. The wild card team with the lowest seed is should be required to win BOTH games to move on to the next round. This gives leeway and wiggle room for the highest seed and punishment for the lowest seed.

    For example, this year the Braves and the Cardinals would play a 2 game series at Turner field. The Braves would have to win 1 game to advance. The Cardinals would have to win all 2 games to advance.

    To me this is fairer and just as fun as a 1 game playoff or coin flip game.

  15. 15
    Walker Says:

    How can I send this idea to Bud Selig?

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    Steve Says:

    @13- thanks DAP. And by the way, me too. Except I’m not admitting it out loud.

    @14- I like it. Anything but the one game playoff.

  17. 17
    Shaun Says:

    Walker, I think the whole idea of expanded playoffs and a one-game wild card round is to bring in the casual fan. I doubt MLB will ever go for something that isn’t somewhat simple.

    But I think there are clearly better alternatives to bring in casual fans and to make the playoffs more rewarding to teams that are the best over the long haul.

    How’s this: No divisions, balanced schedule, top two teams get a bye, seed 6 at seed 3 for three games, seed 5 at seed 4 for three games, no off days in the first round and no off days between the first round and the second round, all later rounds are seven-game series.

    You get high-intensity, expanded playoffs to bring in casual fans and you reward the two best regular season teams.

  18. 18
    Walker Says:

    @ Shaun

    Your idea would be the ideal situation because it makes major changes to the schedule and abolishes divisions.But we all know the MLB is obsessed with divisions and rivalries.

  19. 19
    Curt Says:

    And shorten the season

  20. 20
    Walker Says:

    This reminds me of that 2 HR Justin Maxwell game. Who is this Donovan Solano dude?

  21. 21
    Curt Says:

    And why do you throw that pitch with 2 strikes and 2 outs

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    Adam Says:


  23. 23
    Walker Says:


    In spite of Fredi we made it.

  24. 24
    Curt Says:

    What a way to get back in. Screw you September 2011

  25. 25
    Ham Says:

    I could watch Chipper’s clubhouse, post-game interview a hundred times (and I just might). My division crown hope meter is a 5. Woohoo!

  26. 26
    Anne Says:

    Amen, #24. Go Braves.

  27. 27
    Leah Says:

    Such a great win. I’ll be honest, I didn’t think they were gonna pull it off. Go Braves!

  28. 28
    bub Says:

    Very cool. Freeman’s GIDP ended last season’s hopes. This year his walkoff puts us in with time to spare. Happy for him; he’s a good kid.

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    Steve Says:

    I was at the Ted last night. What a great moment. And I know it’s easy to say now, but once that passed ball sent Chipper to third, the whole place could feel the wheels coming off for Dunn and that really good things were about to happen. That, and my rally cap was particularly strong last night.

    And how about all of the post game celebration in the clubhouse and out on the field? So great. I think back to all the post game celebrations in the early and mid-2000’s and last night is so above and beyond on the excitement meter it’s got to bode well for the post season.

  30. 30
    Walker Says:

    We as Atlanta Braves players and fans went the playoffs for 15 years straight and I’ll admit that even I got a little spoiled. I realize that the MLB regular season is the hardest regular season in professional sports and I think we all appreciate it even more since we’ve only made it through once in the last 6 years.

  31. 31
    bub Says:

    Did y’all see the company Freddie and Meds entered via that game? The other players in baseball history who’ve sent their teams to the PS with a bomb includes Hank Aaron in 1957.

    But Meds’s deal might be even better; the all-time leader in team wins whenever they start the game with 22. The only others with 20-22 in a row: Whitey Ford, Carl Hubbell, Lefty Grove, and Roger Clemens.

    Between that game, Chipper’s tour, and Kimbrel’s historical dominance, there’s some good memories. Wish Beachy were here.

  32. 32
    Walker Says:

    Jason Heyward is a really good baseball player.

  33. 33
    Adam Says:

    Give that man a Cy Young.

  34. 34
    Leah Says:

    It’s a shame we have to lose tomorrow. A sweep would be mighty nice.

  35. 35
    Curt Says:

    I hate Werth

  36. 36
    Walker Says:

    The Braves basically have win every game for the rest of the season to win the division and it’s very possible. However, at the same time it’s imperative to rest guys like Chipper, Heyward and Prado. Who knows what happens.

  37. 37
    Steve Says:

    Anyone here have tickets to the October 5 one-game playoff? If so, we should meet up prior to the game.

  38. 38
    Leah Says:

    Me me me!!! Tell me when and where and I’ll be there with bells in!

  39. 39
    Leah Says:

    *in. Not in.

  40. 40
    Leah Says:

    Crap! On on on on. Geez.

  41. 41
    Anne Says:

    The promise of Leah with bells in is super-tempting

  42. 42
    Leah Says:

    Come on Anne…everybody’s doing it.

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    bub Says:

  44. 44
    Mike Says:

    Watching this game, I can’t help but feel some lingering faith in Hanson. I think it’s like how some amputees feel their missing limbs.

  45. 45
    Curt Says:

    Amazing how a 2-0 Hanson deficit feels so much different than a 2-0 deficit with anyone else.

    Nats/Phils 3-3

  46. 46
    Curt Says:

    Going with Todd Helton

  47. 47
    will Says:

    i will love him and pet him and squeeze him and call him Ug

  48. 48
    Curt Says:

    Thank the Phils for pitching Tyler Colvin tonight

  49. 49
    Curt Says:

    Cloyd. Even better

  50. 50
    David Says:

    Is there an ABT meet-up happening before or during tomorrow night’s game?

  51. 51
    Ham Says:

    #43 was awesome! Great read. Thanks for sharing, Bub.

  52. 52
    Walker Says:

    Its crazy that with those numbers in that article, people constantly ask whether Chipper is a first ballot Hall of Famer. Why is there even a question? I don’t hear these questions about Jeter. Yes, both are first ballot Hall of Famers but I have a secret for baseball folks. Chipper Jones is far and away and has always has been a better baseball player than Derek Jeter. It’s not even close. But I guess that’s blasphemous.

  53. 53
    Curt Says:

    He is but Jeter plays in NY and has 4 rings.

  54. 54
    Curt Says:

    I would never claim to be overly religious, but this is a really fascinating story.–grant-desme-leaves-the-a-s–becomes-a-monk-and-tries-to-find-his-peace.html

  55. 55
    Steve Says:

    @38, 50: Leah and David – how about meeting up at 6:30pm in front of the entrance to the Taco Mac Family Fun Zone (the kids play area in the fan plaza)?

    I’ll be wearing a dark shirt with the Braves Twitter handle on it: @braves, and an old school (70’s era) Braves cap.

  56. 56
    ham Says:

    @55 and the goofiest grin you have ever seen.

  57. 57
    Leah Says:

    @55 sounds good!

  58. 58
    Steve Says:

    I know it’s all about Chipper right now, but watch this Huddy video immediately.

  59. 59
    Steve Says:

    And now back to the Chipper show. Check out this fantastic photo collection of Chipper from SI.

  60. 60
    Steve Says:

    Leah and David. Sorry to miss you. Had to head to our seats.

  61. 61
    Leah Says:

    Dammit…wasn’t going to cry.

  62. 62
    Leah Says:

    Um… Per comment 37 I thought you were referring to the Oct 5th one game playoff. I’m in North GA half lit on red wine. Sorry for confusion. See ya next week? Or not?

  63. 63
    Leah Says:

    Those turtle necks look stupid.

  64. 64
    Leah Says:

    Aw…Chipper loves me.

  65. 65
    Leah Says:

    Michael Jordan needs eye drops as badly as Chipper needs crest whitening strips.

  66. 66
    bub Says:

    we losed? wuh happun?

  67. 67
    Steve Says:

    Hey Leah. I will be there on the 5th, too. Once we know the time, we’ll see if we can meet up.

    The Chipper ceremony was fantastic. And mostly because of Chipper’s speech. So appreciative of his team and the fans. Great, great, great.

    And then there was the game. What a crap game. And while the moves worked out, I don’t get Fredi going with Martinez and Gearrin in a 2 run game when the Nats are getting killed. Very frustrating all around.

  68. 68
    Walker Says:

    How about giving Duda the platoon advantage on Hudson. After Hudson stuck out Hairston then it was time to bring in a lefty.

  69. 69
    Walker Says:

    @ 65

    Everybody knows yellow teeth are one of Chipper’s trademarks. All joking aside, what a great night. What a legend.

  70. 70
    Curt Says:

    Yeah, I didn’t get to see one pitch, but why on earth was Hudson in there in the 7th to give up a 3 run homer to a lefty? Big miss there by the Braves

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    David Says:

    Steve — I’m really sorry about not meeting up last night, and about not even replying to your post! I live in Columbia, SC, so yesterday morning was spent packing stuff up for the weekend trip, then traveling, then trying to get to the game on time, etc. In the midst of everything, I wasn’t able to get on the board and see if there would be a meeting, so I missed #55 until seeing it this morning.

    Really sorry! Hope you had a great time, despite the loss.

    By the way, did anybody else find it a bit ironic that, during the players’ memories that they showed on the big screen, they had Teixeira’s goodbye come immediately after Hudson’s? Given the history between Hudson and Tex and the whole “still a douche” thing? I thought that was great. AND I loved how everybody booed Tex.

  72. 72
    Steve Says:

    @71 – David, no worries. At all.

    And yes, the Tex moment was great. All those between innings videos were superb.

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    Walker Says:

    I’m hoping the Nats win tonight and get this over with. Lets rest up in Pittsburgh for that one game playoff.

  74. 74
    Walker Says:

    Nothing better than that camera shot of Chipper walking down tunnel into the clubhouse and all you see is the back of his jersey with his Jones and #10. Legend

  75. 75
    Leah Says:

    #73 I concur. Also great hearing the “Chipper” chants throughout the bottom of the 9th. I can’t even talk about his Mama.

  76. 76
    Leah Says:

    Top of the 9th. I know baseball.

  77. 77
    Leah Says:

    Neeeeew shoooooooow!

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