Show #209: Questions Remain for Braves in Left and Third
The BP hat. The crazy Bourn talk. A platoon at 3rd and Left? And the potential money at the trade deadline.
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January 12th, 2013 at 8:42 am
I just watched the first half of “Trouble With the Curve” on a flight from Hong Kong and apparently Clint Eastwood signed Dale Murphy- so he should be in the hall.
January 12th, 2013 at 8:44 am
And Justin Timberlake once had a 100mph fastball and is a good clogger. Amazing.
January 12th, 2013 at 11:55 am
Walker, Bagwell might have better stats, but he is not far and away a better player than Murphy. He played a much easier position, at a much easier time, and he took steroids. And no way is he three times the HOF worthy as Murphy is.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:20 am
looked at lots of stats on wikipedia..wont repost the stuff here, but I think the overall case is pretty strong. There are obviously some gaps, holes or whatever, but on balance, total package, he should be in. Hopefully hell get in with the Veteran committee.
January 13th, 2013 at 12:43 am
oh, also Rise up Dirty Birds !
now that the broncs are gone…anybody’s Super Bowl
January 13th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Bagwell was so great for more years that Murphy can’t make up the difference just because he played the tougher position. The biggest issue with Murphy was a short peak and in other seasons, he was *merely* solid. Bagwell was MVP-caliber in his best seasons and still awesome in many others.
I have no problem with voting for Murphy, though. Depends on how but a Hall of Fame you want or what type of Hall of Fame you want. I think he has as good a case as Jim Rice, certainly. Also, I have no problem with anyone who wants to argue the fame should literally be a factor in addition to performance, which would probably get Murphy in.
January 14th, 2013 at 9:33 am
Still kind of drained from that Falcons game. So happy for something good to happen with an Atlanta team.
On the subject, a buddy of mine who’s a pilot for Delta was returning home from work on Marta (Atlanta’s “subway”system) yesterday around 4pm and saw people on the train who had left the game early!?!?! I’m hard nosed about not leaving any game early, I’ll admit, but leaving yesterday’s game is simply unforgivable.
January 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am
@17
I remember those days “in the ’80s”…
Heard a comedian one time:
I was in Atlanta last week, I had a late set, so I thought I might take in a ballgame. I called the park and asked if they had any tickets left for that evenings game. After she got control of her laughter and could talk again, the operator told me that they did have tickets available.
I asked her what time did the game start.
She asked me what time I could get there…
January 14th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
Yeah great game yesterday. But Matt Ryan has got to stop those lazy interceptions. Some interceptions are mistakes, some are lazy and Matt was throwing lazy ones. One more win!
January 14th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
@32 agree with good to get some postseason success in atlanta. a small monkey off the back. its like the Braves won that wildcard game not lost it….I’ll regret saying this but Falcons have a shot at winning the sb. (the way we felt that the braves had a good shot at the ws this year). what a wild game.
January 15th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Meanwhile, back to baseball:
For discussion:
Which would you rather?
A. Get Justin Upton, costing Teheran, Salcedo and (probably) one mid-range P prospect – playing Prado 3B full time (OBTW – should be Upton/Upton/Heyward OF for next three years)
B. Get Mike Olt (3B – Texas) for Teheran, playing Prado OF full time
C. Go to spring “AS IS” and see what happens…
C.
January 15th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
@36 Don’t know where the extra C came from…
It was not meant to be my vote… don’t want to pre-influence the discussion..
January 15th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
i say A
January 15th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
This is one of the best things I’ve read in a while and shows us why Rob Neyer is the Chuck Berry of internet baseball bloggers: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/1/14/3876166/jack-morris-2013-hall-fame-results
January 15th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
A
I don’t want to give up Teheran (or Delgado) for an unproven AA guy. I know Olt looks great. But if we’re going to trade one of our potential superstars, I want the return to be more concrete.
And I really don’t like going in as is.
January 15th, 2013 at 5:48 pm
I agree that the choice is A.
I second Steve’s comments about Olt. And as much as I like Prado (and Olt) and think Prado can handle leftfield, I think he loses value both offensively and defensively as a leftfielder.
I’d rather take a chance and see what Gattis can do, than trade a prospect for another thirdbaseman. But hopefully the Justin Upton thing can work out.
January 15th, 2013 at 9:53 pm
Could have done without the Soriano to the Nats development.
January 16th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Man, if the Braves could get Justin Upton for Teheran + other prospects I’d do it. At this point Teheran is just potential, and I would rather keep Delgado anyway. A future rotation of Medlen, Beachy, Minor, Delgado is pretty solid. I think we can afford to trade Teheran.
January 16th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
43 ’twas me
January 16th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Is Gattis this year’s Tyler Flowers or J-Terd? It seems like every Winter one of our guys just rakes or dominates on the mound and raises his stock, but it never turns out to translate to the major league level. Tommy Hanson would be another example.
January 16th, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Nate, it seems like most prospect people like Gattis a little better than those others. But there are plenty who think Gattis may be nothing more than a bench or part-time player, from what I understand.
I think what happened with “Terd” (I don’t know how I feel about using that nickname) is that he showed up on the prospect radar and some of us got a little too excited, not realizing that anyone who has a remote chance of making the majors is going be on the radar of prospect folks.
Tommy Hanson is interesting because in some ways he seems like a disappointment but in others he was a pleasant surprise. Check out where he was drafted and what kind of value the Braves got out of him before it all fell apart. We tend to overlook the big picture as soon as a guy shows up high on a prospect list. But maybe we should have actually been pretty amazed that Hanson made his way to near the top of prospect lists, much less to provide some value at the major league level for a few years.
January 16th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
Good stuff from Craig Calcaterra: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/dan-turkenkopf-got-a-job-with-a-major-league-team-this-tells-us-something/
“Matt Klaassen noted Dan’s hiring today. And he makes one hell of a point: for as much crap as the sabermetic and bloggy-types take from the mainstream media about how they don’t truly know the game because they’re not out there at the park or interviewing players in clubhouses and stuff, ain’t it funny how the sabermetric and bloggy types are continually hired by major league teams to work in baseball operations? And did you notice that teams never hire the guys who claim to know so much more about baseball and who continually slam advanced metrics and statistical analysis?”
January 16th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
Passed a Cheesecake Factory today, immediately thought of Jordan Schafer.
January 17th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Ate 12 pot laced Reese’s cups today, immediately thought of Jordan Schafer
January 17th, 2013 at 8:49 am
Can’t say I’m really upset that Michael Morse won’t be hitting titanic homeruns against us next year.