Walker, Bagwell might have better stats, but he is not far and away a better player than Murphy. He played a much easier position, at a much easier time, and he took steroids. And no way is he three times the HOF worthy as Murphy is.
looked at lots of stats on wikipedia..wont repost the stuff here, but I think the overall case is pretty strong. There are obviously some gaps, holes or whatever, but on balance, total package, he should be in. Hopefully hell get in with the Veteran committee.
Bagwell was so great for more years that Murphy can’t make up the difference just because he played the tougher position. The biggest issue with Murphy was a short peak and in other seasons, he was *merely* solid. Bagwell was MVP-caliber in his best seasons and still awesome in many others.
I have no problem with voting for Murphy, though. Depends on how but a Hall of Fame you want or what type of Hall of Fame you want. I think he has as good a case as Jim Rice, certainly. Also, I have no problem with anyone who wants to argue the fame should literally be a factor in addition to performance, which would probably get Murphy in.
Still kind of drained from that Falcons game. So happy for something good to happen with an Atlanta team.
On the subject, a buddy of mine who’s a pilot for Delta was returning home from work on Marta (Atlanta’s “subway”system) yesterday around 4pm and saw people on the train who had left the game early!?!?! I’m hard nosed about not leaving any game early, I’ll admit, but leaving yesterday’s game is simply unforgivable.
I was in Atlanta last week, I had a late set, so I thought I might take in a ballgame. I called the park and asked if they had any tickets left for that evenings game. After she got control of her laughter and could talk again, the operator told me that they did have tickets available.
@32 agree with good to get some postseason success in atlanta. a small monkey off the back. its like the Braves won that wildcard game not lost it….I’ll regret saying this but Falcons have a shot at winning the sb. (the way we felt that the braves had a good shot at the ws this year). what a wild game.
Man, if the Braves could get Justin Upton for Teheran + other prospects I’d do it. At this point Teheran is just potential, and I would rather keep Delgado anyway. A future rotation of Medlen, Beachy, Minor, Delgado is pretty solid. I think we can afford to trade Teheran.
Is Gattis this year’s Tyler Flowers or J-Terd? It seems like every Winter one of our guys just rakes or dominates on the mound and raises his stock, but it never turns out to translate to the major league level. Tommy Hanson would be another example.
Nate, it seems like most prospect people like Gattis a little better than those others. But there are plenty who think Gattis may be nothing more than a bench or part-time player, from what I understand.
I think what happened with “Terd” (I don’t know how I feel about using that nickname) is that he showed up on the prospect radar and some of us got a little too excited, not realizing that anyone who has a remote chance of making the majors is going be on the radar of prospect folks.
Tommy Hanson is interesting because in some ways he seems like a disappointment but in others he was a pleasant surprise. Check out where he was drafted and what kind of value the Braves got out of him before it all fell apart. We tend to overlook the big picture as soon as a guy shows up high on a prospect list. But maybe we should have actually been pretty amazed that Hanson made his way to near the top of prospect lists, much less to provide some value at the major league level for a few years.
“Matt Klaassen noted Dan’s hiring today. And he makes one hell of a point: for as much crap as the sabermetic and bloggy-types take from the mainstream media about how they don’t truly know the game because they’re not out there at the park or interviewing players in clubhouses and stuff, ain’t it funny how the sabermetric and bloggy types are continually hired by major league teams to work in baseball operations? And did you notice that teams never hire the guys who claim to know so much more about baseball and who continually slam advanced metrics and statistical analysis?”