January 09, 2013

Show #209: Questions Remain for Braves in Left and Third

The BP hat.  The crazy Bourn talk.  A platoon at 3rd and Left?  And the potential money at the trade deadline.

 

 

136 Responses to “Show #209: Questions Remain for Braves in Left and Third”

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  1. 76
    Adam Says:

    I went from extremely happy that we got J Upton to physically sick that we got rid of Prado.

    Did Arizona call no trade-backs yet?

  2. 77
    Shaun Says:

    Prado (from Baseball Reference):

    Age 25 – 2.8 WAR
    Age 26 – 4.9 WAR
    Age 27 – 1.8 WAR
    Age 28 – 5.4 WAR

    Again I hate to lose a productive thirdbaseman but I think it’s pretty savvy to sell high on Prado at the point he’s due for a big raise and just before he hits free agency.

  3. 78
    Curt Says:

    #75 was Hamilton

  4. 79
    Walker Says:

    Can’t believe this. Prado? Completely blindsided. Justin Upton is INJURY PRONE!! your have to do the trade without Prado or don’t do it at all. We just traded a versatile, excellent player Wow.

  5. 80
    Walker Says:

    So now we are platooning at 3b. Uhhgg

    This Chris Johnson guy can’t play defense, get on base or hit lefties.

  6. 81
    Leah Says:

    #78 lol. #79 I totally agree! Half my baseball heart is now a diamond back and I HATE snakes.

  7. 82
    Bubdylan Says:

    what is this i don’t even

  8. 83
    eric Says:

    I like the deal. They weren’t going to pay Prado after this season anyway. They got a better player for longer.

  9. 84
    Walker Says:

    After my initial reaction. The trade doesn’t seem bad as long as Upton stays healthy. I just don’t want to see Constanza in LF and Johnson at 3b a lot next year. The 2013 team will be all about good pitching and the HR.

  10. 85
    Leah Says:

    Bub….it’s terrible. I can’t even tell you. I’ll like it if JUpton hits a homer at every at bat.

  11. 86
    tcc Says:

    Or maybe just every other at bat. That would work. Sure going to miss Prado!

  12. 87
    Bubdylan Says:

    From an identity standpoint, it’s pretty cool. It’ll be neat having brothers in the outfield. Three of them. (HAHAHAHAHAHA… *ahem*…)

    No, seriously, I think Atlanta having an all-black outfield, and all of them stars to boot, will make the Braves media darlings again. That’s bound to help with the ol’ finances, which will help the team going forward. And of course I think it makes the team actually better at baseball, but I thought I’d focus on something that could start arguments before I retreat back to my cave.

    Man … Prado, though… oof.

  13. 88
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Hate to see Prado go, but the writing was kind’a on the wall when he showed we wasn’t interested in a long term deal.

    With the Braves finances, that was a killer.

    Nice to have Upton/Upton/Heyward in the OF. Third base might end up giving up as many runs as it produces, but you never know what might come out of spring training…

    Just for grins and giggles, how about leading off Uggla? Tell him to get on no matter what (walks, hits, etc.) and don’t worry about hitting homers. I think that is what messed him up to begin with. He listened to the media hype of “the big bat in the middle of the line-up the Braves have been looking for” and started to try to hit 50 HRs instead of the usual 30 he always hit (which came with a good number walks and hits along the way)… He would probably then hit 30 anyway…

  14. 89
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Keith Law thought the Braves did well:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/law_keith/id/8876499/breaking-justin-upton-trade-diamondbacks-braves-mlb

    It is an insider column at ESPN.

  15. 90
    Shaun Says:

    This is great: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBZsN3VCEAA3u10.jpg

  16. 91
    Shaun Says:

    The thing about losing Prado and leaving a bit of a hole at thirdbase is that before that there was about as big a hole in leftfield/thirdbase, with Reed Johnson and Juan Francisco.

    I think I’d rather have JUpton and Francisco/Chris Johnson than Prado and Francisco/Reed Johnson.

    Remember the state of thirdbase around the majors is not all that good right now. So Francisco/Chris Johnson is not an absolute killer.

    I do think it’s possible, with all the hype around this move, to overestimate what JUpton may provide over Prado. Frankly it may not be a huge upgrade over the next season or two. But the fact that Upton is a lot younger than Prado and the Braves traded Prado before he started making some money is significant.

  17. 92
    eric Says:

    I’d like to see Heyward lead off.

  18. 93
    Nate Says:

    This is such a bittersweet trade. I had been wanting this trade all along, but to have to give up Martin really hurts. They’re gonna love having him in AZ. What a great player? That guy gave his all every time he was on the field. Martin, you will be missed.

    Delgado showed a lot of poise last year. I’m sure we’ll see him again. Hopefully he doesn’t go all Jason Schmidt on us.

    I’m very excited to have Justin Upton. I always hated it when he came up when we played the D’Backs. He always seemed pretty clutch, and I hope he brings that to the Braves lineup.

    Who the hell bats leadoff? Simmons?

  19. 94
    Nate Says:

    *What a great player?- channeling my inner Ron Burgundy

  20. 95
    Steve Says:

    I was really stunned all day long with the pain of losing Prado. Like I can’t remember this kind of losing a player kind of fandom pain in a long, long time.

    Leah, I can’t even imagine what you’re going through today.

    All that said, I believe the team is much better today than it was yesterday.

    And yes, I’d bet Simmons leads off. I mean, who else?

  21. 96
    Steve Says:

    Good read:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/quiet-justin-upton-not-the-kind-of-intense-player-arizona-diamondbacks-want-trade-to-atlanta-braves-hot-stove-012413

  22. 97
    Walker Says:

    How about the weird obsession Kirk Gibson has with so-called “gritty players”. What exactly defines a scrappy gritty player? The D backs will be gritty and scrappy all the way to 3rd place I guess. Gibson has no clue. He’s worse than Fredi. But Thank you for Upton.

  23. 98
    David Says:

    95 — Who else could bat leadoff? I remember back when Atlanta signed BJ, they were saying that he should bat leadoff if we don’t bring back Bourn. With that, you could do:

    BJ
    Simmons
    JHey
    JUpton/Freeman
    Freeman/JUpton (switch them depending on if it’s a RH/LH opposing starter)
    Mac
    Uggs
    3B guy
    guy who throws the ball when we’re on the field

    But I think you’re right — it’ll be Simmons. Lineup I think we should have:

    Simmons
    BJ (he’s had more ABs at #2 spot than any other spot in his career)
    JHey
    JUpton/Freeman
    Freeman/JUpton (again — switch ‘em depending on opp SP)
    Mac
    Ugg
    3B
    pitcher

    What I think we’ll see is…

    Simmons
    JHey
    JUpton
    Freddie
    BJ
    Mac
    Ugg
    3B
    pitcher

  24. 99
    Leah Says:

    Steve, I just need you to let Curt say one really bad word on the show this week. It would really help my aching heart.

  25. 100
    wonz Says:

    PRAAAADDOOOOO! :’(

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