November 15, 2013

Show #247: The Braves are Headed to Cobb County

The team announces a move to the burbs.  Goodbye to Mac.  And Hudson?  Venters resigns.  But seriously, the Braves are moving to Cobb County…



93 Responses to “Show #247: The Braves are Headed to Cobb County”

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  1. 76
    Leah Says:

    Someone please weigh in on the crazy trade Kimbrel talk.

  2. 77
    Tcc Says:

    It’s totally crazy! No flippin’ way!
    He wouldn’t take Uggles and BJ with him, would he???

  3. 78
    Walker Says:

    I gotta say I really like the Mat Gamel and Gavin Floyd signings.

  4. 79
    Mark in Memphis Says:


    Not SO crazy to me… A couple of the ideas are not bad…

    The Ranger package seems really good… And if it frees up cash to “lock up long term” Heyward & Freeman, I could be for it…

    I like Kimbrel a lot, but just think about how many “great” closers came and went during the career of Rivera and how many hard throwers lasted longer than Kimbrel has so far… “Long term” contracts for closers are dangerous… and that is what Kimbrel is going to be looking for…

    But, don’t worry Leah, I don’t think that Wren will trade the “beloved” during his own contract’s “walk year”…

  5. 80
    Mark in Memphis Says:


    There is one proposal in that article that does possibly include Uggla in the deal…

  6. 81
    Leah Says:

    I feel like Kimbrel is the one thing we have that no one else does. Maybe that sounds petty but I want to hold on to him.

    It’s difficult to plan for the season and the future isn’t it.

  7. 82
    Adam Says:

    I’d rather not trade our most consistently amazing player.

  8. 83
    Steve Says:

    I agree that we’d get a huge haul and that he’s going to get more expensive, but having him is a luxury. We save money in other areas with all the homegrown talent. I don’t want to move him. Nor do I think the Braves do it. Not in 2014, anyway.

  9. 84
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    I don’t know. If the Rangers package would get us a young age pairing for Simmons at 2nd who at 19 at AA (19 years old at AA – got to be pretty good) and put up numbers like: .305/.365/.474, 11 homers, 41 doubles and 32 stolen bases.

    Maybe a high contact guy who bats 2nd/plays 2nd for the next 5 years at pretty low money… VERY tempting. He also comes with a possible Kimbrel replacement…

    And like I said before, giving big contracts to relievers seldom ends well… For every Rivera there are a number of others who are failures: (recently) Brandon League (three years, $22.5 million), Carlos Marmol (three years, $20 million by the Cubs), Brandon Lyon (three years, $15 million by the Astros), Troy Percival (two years, $12 million by the Tigers) and Mel Rojas (three years, $13.75 million by the Cubs).

    I would rather spend the money on keeping Heyward, Freeman and Simmons around long tem…

  10. 85
    Nick Says:

    Amen Mark!!

  11. 86
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    Tell me again why we wanted/needed Doumit again?

    Are they planning to platoon with Gattis since he wasn’t so good against righties and Doumit is better against RHPs?

    Do they see Laird as a liability? I figured they want Bethancourt to have one more year to work in his hitting, but I thought Laird was the “stop gap” guy to back up Gattis…

    I personally don’t see this as a “selling high” situation on Gilmatin… Was it his “low ceiling but almost ready for mid rotation in the big leagues” and we had no hole for him? (Such as Wood in 5th with Hale in the wings leaves him third man out? Don’t we always need middle relievers? Might he be another “Medlin-like” story?

  12. 87
    Walker Says:

    According to fangraphs:

    All subsequent data is courtesy of research by Matthew Carruth. In 2008, setting a minimum of 2,000 called pitches caught, Doumit was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. In 2009, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. In 2010, he was baseball’s sixth-worst pitch-framer. In 2011, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. In 2012, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. In 2013, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. Ryan Doumit has proven himself to be one terrible pitch-framer, at least relative to the rest of the regular or semi-regular pitch-framers.

    We have limited PITCHf/x data going all the way back to 2007. Since then, 169 different catchers have caught at least 1,000 called pitches that the cameras recorded. Here are the worst pitch-framers, by added strikes per game:

    Ryan Doumit, -3.02 strikes/game
    Paul Hoover, -2.50
    John Hester, -2.40
    Mike Lieberthal, -2.39
    Luis Martinez, -2.39
    Bryan Anderson, -2.37
    Max Ramirez, -2.17
    Rob Johnson, -2.02
    Brandon Inge, -2.01
    Kenji Johjima, -1.96

  13. 88
    Mark in Memphis Says:

    An interesting ESPN article:

  14. 89
    Leah Says:

    Merry Christmas ABT!

  15. 90
    Tcc Says:


    ..and a Happy New Year to all. Will there be a new show following the HOF announcement this week?

  16. 91
    Cardo Says:

    New show time?! I’m fiending. Is it spring training yet?

  17. 92
    Tcc Says:

    Chicks may indeed dig the long ball but HOF voters obviously appreciate players of great accomplishment without suspicions of PED use. Congrats to Maddux, Glavine and Frank Thomas!

  18. 93
    Curt Says:

    Indeed. And tough luck for Biggio. I always liked him as a player. Maybe next year will be the one.

    Yes – new show tonight.

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