July 09, 2017

Show #374: Tripped Up Heading to the All Star Break

Roughed up by the Astros and splitting with the Nats. Freddie’s return. The Julio trade rumors. All Star Break awards.

 

 

11 Responses to “Show #374: Tripped Up Heading to the All Star Break”

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    Tyler Says:

    I’d be happy to get Bregman for Teheran. I don’t think the Astros give up Tucker or Fisher.

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    Dustin Says:

    Idk about anyone else but this episode is skipping and sounding really glitchy on stitcher. Great content as always though!

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    William A Says:

    LOOKING FOR CERTAINTY IN AN UNCERTAIN WORLD

    It’s elusive and unpredictable by most standards, this quality called certainty as it relates to team sports and most aspects of our lives. Right now, the Braves have certainty of quality consistent performance with two players, Inciarte and FF. That’s it. In other words, the team is not poised to run in the weeds with the big dogs as currently constituted.

    That said, how much certainty exists with the young guys vying for a spot on the big club’s roster down on the farm? Perhaps a great deal if given the opportunity to perform, but until that happens, the Braves are who they are: A collection of aging veterans sprinkled with young wannabes and a few never-meant-to-bes.

    When will the Braves reach the so-called “crossover point”, when the youth movement kicks into high gear while the wily, aging and costly veterans are kicked to the curb? Unless and until that happens, what we have is a team treading water, calling success a .500 record and a front office selling it as whipped cream when in reality, it’s just day old butter. If they trade off young assets for quick fixes, it will be akin to kicking the can down the road until there’s no road remaining.

    My point is this: I think there’s more certainty in going with youth than recycling veteran players although, really, certainty in most any form is also fleeting. This current rebuild is feeling more and more like a recycling project than a fresh beginning. Something to think about as the trade deadline approaches.

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    Shaun Says:

    William,

    The Braves’ prospects will show the team when they are ready. That’s why they have veterans on the cheap on the major league roster: so when the prospects show they are ready, they don’t have to worry about trying to make room. Plus, they have to field a major league team.

    Sure, it’s great to go with youngsters, but it’s worse to go with youngsters before they are developed, while they still have things to learn at the minor league level. Better to be a mediocre-to-bad major league team with cheap veterans on short-term deals than to be a mediocre-to-bad major league team while ruining the development of young, talented players.

    The Braves have played their young players who they feel have developed and who they feel don’t have anything more to learn or prove in the minors. They’ve gone with guys like Swanson, Camargo, Newcomb, Ruiz for a while. They don’t want to force others who aren’t ready, in the name of “going with youth.”

    To take an extreme, absurd example to prove a point, you wouldn’t want them to call up Maitan, 17, just because the veterans are treading water and you want to turn the page. Player development is still important. You can’t rush it just because you’re tired of seeing old players hovering just under .500.

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    Tyler Says:

    In terms of who gets traded: Phillips for sure. Garcia is a maybe as is Jim Johnson and Motte . I’d lean towards probably not with Teheran and Markakis. Kemp is definitely not getting traded.

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    Tyler Says:

    Matt Adams also definitely gets traded.

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    Shaun Says:

    Here’s a shocker: Jim Johnson leads Braves pitchers in Fangraphs WAR at the break.

    This is because his FIP is 2.42 and his xFIP is 3.04, despite a 4.23 ERA.

    The idea is his pitching is fine but defense and luck are letting him down, so to speak.

    He’s the 11th best pitcher in Baseball-Reference WAR, because their WAR is more based on runs allowed than than only the things that are strictly influenced by the pitcher.

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    Podcast Listener Says:

    The sky is the limit for this team in the next 5-7 years (beginning in 2019). I’m still saying 70-92 for this year (with next year being just below the .500 mark). Anyway, the future seems bright for this team.

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    Podcast Listener Says:

    By the way, I’d be trying to get rid of all the disposable players right now. That means (if the deal is right) Phillips, Garcia, Teheran and…even Adams and Markakis.

    I’d also be doing everything I could to acquire Sonny Gray. If not him, Chris Archer would work. The starting staff could use a HUGE spark.

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    Tyler Says:

    Can y’all please talk about Snitker on your show tomorrow? He’s been absolutely horrible.

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    Beakdip Says:

    I heard Joe Simpson say the other night, “I am here to educate the fan base.” I thought an announcer’s job is to entertain? He is so pompus and awful. Chip got the nepotist nod and Sutton is cliche after stereotype after egotistical blabber. Let’s get some announcers with soul. Byrd is decent and Glav is pretty good.
    We swept the Dbacks too! I love this team!

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