July 05, 2009

Show #68: Did the Phillies Series Mark a True Turnaround?

The sweep of the Phils:  does it mean anything?  Should we trade Vazquez?  Has Frenchy been benched?  And discussing Bobby’s uncharacteristic moves.



109 Responses to “Show #68: Did the Phillies Series Mark a True Turnaround?”

  1. 1
    Sam Meers Says:

    I still have hope in frenchy. i guess im part of that 1%

  2. 2
    Bubdylan Says:

    Good show.

    If D. Lowe can keep it together, I still like our chances.

    I still have hope in Frenchy, too. I hope I never see him bat for us again. :)

    How are we gonna trade Vazquez for an established bat? The teams who take on 10+ million dollar players at the deadline are typically contenders (i.e. not Washington), and what they give in return is prospects, not their own power bats. Am I wrong? I could be wrong.

  3. 3
    Trav Says:

    I have hope in Frenchy, which is why atlanta should put a package together to send him to Texas for Nelson Cruz, 20 HRs at the break and Josh Hamilton is about to return, Braves could really use his bat, even if we have to give up Vazquez for it. And he’s only making just over 400,000 this year, it’s the perfect situation for the braves.

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    Steve Says:

    Sam and Trav – welcome to the site. Thanks for joining in.

    So Sam – Are you hopeful just kind of blindly because you like Frenchy and you’re trying to will it to happen or do you see some things that you think are good signs. I ask in all seriousness, because I’d love to share your optimism.

    Trav – I love the idea of Cruz (even if, as you say, Vazquez were involved) but I really wonder if Texas would get rid of a league minimum guy with less than 2 year of service. On a related note, I’d stopped paying attention to Andruw, but just saw that he’s hit 10 HRs, has an OBP of .347 and an OPS in the high 8’s. That wouldn’t look so bad in right field either.

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    Leah Says:

    Fair fair fair! I feel the turning point and am optimistic about this week. Someone please stand by with a forklift to pick me up if I’m wrong. It was hard losing to the Nats but we can’t win every game and even Eeyore said the last game was an example of great pitching by the Nats. Another great show guys.

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    JD Says:

    WHAT?!?!?!?! trade Vazquez?!?!?! you people are crazy!! he is the leading K man right now, why in the hell should we trade him?!?! trade Lowe!! he is the one we should trade for another good bat and just work with the starting rotation we will have then

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    Steve Says:

    JD – I’m with you on trading Lowe. It’s the best case scenario from a performance and financial perspective. But Lowe’s 4 year, 15MM/year deal will be much, much harder to move. Especially with the last month he’s had.

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    Anne Says:

    Totally stealing from you fellas, I have an office bet going (one Coca-Cola product of choice from the office fridge, served by The Loser tomorrow by means of The Winner’s choosing, including: serving method, serving vessel and general serving aesthetic) as to whether Francoeur will be in the line-up tonight or not. I hope I win as much as I hope the Braves win. Go Braves!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Look on the bright side, if Frenchy’s in the line up, at least he can’t pinch hit. *fail horn*

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    Steve Says:

    Anne – you’ve won! The line up is posted and Frenchy is not on it. It’s a good sign, people.

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    Curt Says:

    Steve, I think the front office actually said, “Bobby, we’d like to win some.”

    I think on the next show we should start pushing for affordable health care and world peace. We’re on a roll.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Are you folks really going to stick a fork in Frenchy before Diaz hits his first 0-fer game? I’d like to think the hack-attack is done, but I’m not as optimistic. Right now I sense less French Bench than Matt…. uh… Bat. yeah.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Well right on cue, this quote from the AJC:

    “Manager Bobby Cox said he would try to get Francoeur back in the lineup Tuesday against the Cubs.”

    Also, Frenchy came right near b*tching about. “I don’t make the line-ups” or some noise…

    I. can. not. stand. Jeff. Francouer.

    And if Bobby starts Frenchy to satisfy him… on Tuesday, if Matt’s still hitting? He’s incurable and needs to go. I hate when I’m a sucker for thinking Bobby’s grown a pair.

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    Anne Says:

    Believe it or not…I LOST! I was on the pessimist side, figuring no way would Bobby continue the (alleged) benching. I’m thrilled I lost…it’s just a Diet Coke. Speaking of losing…back to listening to those jerks on ESPM. That is not a typo.

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    Anne Says:

    (Stupid Girl) Question: why is our (currently) most prolific HR hitter, i.e., McClouth, at the top of the order instead of 2nd, 3rd or 4th, assuming that he’s more capable of hitting a HR, and being there, he’s less likely to have men on base?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Anne, because Bobby likes speed at the top so they can…. uh… be fast when they, uh…. stand there at first.

    I doubt Bobby has even revisited the issue since McLouth had success those first two games in the one spot.

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    Curt Says:

    Thank God for the sweep. Otherwise we might be 5 out.

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    Steve Says:

    So bummed! Seriously – I had to walk away and not even contemplate posting until I took out some frustrations on Boom Blox for a while (it’s a Wii game, btw). Dammit! I’m sick about this loss like I was about that game 3 loss to the Yankees. And, just to rub it in our faces, the Phillies go beserk on the Reds. I also hate to say that we’re 0 – 3 during the French Bench era. Just giving Bobby more ammunition. Sigh.

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    Curt Says:

    More on the trade stuff from Mark Bradley (expanding on Buster Olney). He makes some nice points.


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    Steve Says:

    For as much optimism as I had on Sunday night’s show and as much I still want to be in the fair fair fair camp with Leah – I am still very deflated from last night’s loss. That looked every bit like the team that can barely score 2 runs a game that we’ve been fielding all season (not helped by the 0 – 9 from Marteen and Matty). There was life in this team Saturday and even Sunday. I didn’t see much last night.

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    Anne Says:

    (back to the speed @ top of the order thread) OK, so let me get this straight, Bub…you’re saying that, allegedly, Bobby would rather have speed at the top of the order than plain-old baserunners awaiting a power bat? Every what-if scenario I think about makes my brain hurt. I guess McClouth is a conundrum, since he has speed AND power. Wait, did I just excuse Bobby? I didn’t mean to.

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    Kathryn Says:

    Did Frenchy stop wearing the lucky undies when he got benched? We haven’t won any of those games. I bet Bobby puts him back in the lineup if he promises to wear them.

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    Leah Says:

    Bleck (said with tons of slobber under tongue). That’s all I can say.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Anne, I really can’t offer any intelligent explanation of Bobby’s placement of McLouth. It’s not the worst choice, really, just b/c so few of our Braves have been able to handle that spot. We just need another power bat. Scooting McLouth down might do a little for our scoring, but not enough. In the meantime, whoever replaces him in the top spot is liable to freak out.

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    Anne Says:

    Bub – that was as intelligent as any other answer I’d get! …like these guys freak out. The devil, you say. :15 to go…Go Braves!

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    Curt Says:

    Some funny stuff from Sportsline on the home team. Ranking them 19 in this week’s useless power rankings:

    We can talk all we want about the Braves’ starting-pitching depth and how Tommy Hanson looks so awesome that I plan to name my first daughter Thomasina Hanson Dobrow, but the bottom line is that they don’t score enough damn runs. Until they get at least one hitter of moderate impact, we can only mete out so many Power Rankings air-kisses. We’re not cheap, you know … They’re all-business on the trade front, with rumors circulating about dealing Yunel Escobar or Javier Vazquez for an individual whose primary skill is making contact with pitched balls … This isn’t to dump on the excellently crusty Bobby Cox, but it’s amazing that it took him this long to see what has been apparent to everyone else for 18 months now: that Jeff Francoeur sucks. Platoon issues or no, Matt Diaz is the better choice.

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    Steve Says:

    Good win tonight. And God bless McCann for figuring out how to hit and drive men in again. Lots of good, long at bats tonight, too. Brooks Conrad looks damn, damn good. So, after another typically lackluster showing by Frenchy, is he back in tomorrow? I say no.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “So, after another typically lackluster showing by Frenchy, is he back in tomorrow? I say no.”

    Steve, meet Bobby Cox. Bobby, Steve.

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    Leah Says:

    I agree with Steve. I have to believe Bobby’s learning from recent change in managing skills (aka the no crying in baseball approach).

  30. 30
    JFranco Says:

    Only team in the NL East to win today! How bout them apples

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    Will Says:

    I fell asleep on the couch just after we went up 2-1 and woke up expecting us to have lost 6-2…the Braves are giving me nightmares!

    What a nice surprise! Heres to the first half having been a dream and us crawling back. Lets win this Cubs series first.

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    Hamilton Says:

    I am back on the “turnaround” bandwagon. Huge win last night. Today’s game is huger.

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    Steve Says:

    Bub – I know, I know. But here’s the thing. I think that Bobby’s conflicted, scared, and confused. His baseball acumen tells him he’s got to bench Frenchy. But his grandfatherly heart can’t yet pull the trigger in a definitive, Kelly-like way. So he’s going to just swap he and Diaz depending on performance. Frenchy should have had a 0 – 4 last night (his hit was very cheap). And Frenchy’s appearance followed Diaz’s 0 – 4 on Monday. I’m telling you – this is how it’s going to go for a while.

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    Curt Says:

    “This isn’t to dump on the excellently crusty Bobby Cox, but it’s amazing that it took him this long to see what has been apparent to everyone else for 18 months now: that Jeff Francoeur sucks. Platoon issues or no, Matt Diaz is the better choice.”

    I’m just going to copy and paste this until Diaz is the starter.

    Oh, and I am all for dumping on Bobby.

  35. 35
    Leah Says:

    .5 games over the mighty Mets. Reaching for a lifeline here. MUST win tonight or I’m joining Curt’s camp.

  36. 36
    Steve Says:

    Dammit! Frenchy is in there today. Well, he barely got a hit last night, so he deserves it.

  37. 37
    Corky's Mom Says:

    Again, just a reminder of what’s important…
    Norris Hopper Traded For Corky Miller by Ben Nicholson-Smith [June 26 at 12:36pm CST]

    Tim Curtis of the Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Reds traded Norris Hopper to the White Sox in exchange for Corky Miller. Miller, a 33-year-old catcher, began his career with the Reds and played four seasons in Cincinnati from 2001-04. He’s played for four major league teams since, most recently for the White Sox. He’ll restart his Reds career in Triple A.

  38. 38
    Anne Says:

    Well, that was lovely today, wasn’t it? The Cubbies being the Cubbies and the Braves being the lucky recipients. I’m glad I joined the Kawakami bandwagon back when he pitched that awesome game in May vs the Blue Jays.

    Curt, with your cut ‘n pasting, I may step back and take some Diaz sloppy seconds because clearly you want him more. I’m not proud…

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    Leah Says:

    I was so afraid Frenchy was going to get a timely hit and actually make a difference. Whew…dodged a bullet there. I think Prado is my favorite player. Not only b/c he’s ‘da man but I love how he got mad when he didn’t pull the trigger on a great pitch today and then standing on 3rd clapping his hands when McLouth scored.

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    BluesMan Says:

    GO BRAVES!!! We took the series against the Cubs!!!

    Nice to see KK back on track. Vasquez was filthy, he more than deserved that win last night (as well as in several other starts where he took no-no or loss). Call me seditious…but in all honesty we’re not gonna see Huddy at 100% until next season. We brought him in to be our ace, and if I remember correctly he was the #2 guy before he was put on the DL & had Tommy John surgery.

    Even though (myself included) most of us fans love having him in a Braves uniform. I honestly don’t think he’s needed? Before he got hurt…he was our innings eater…but even as that, I don’t think he was quite what we wanted him to be. Bottom line? I’d put him out there on the trade market…chances are nobody will want to bite, because of what he’s coming back from. I’d put him out on the trade block before Javy Vasquez. I hope if Huddy does make a full recovery, he’s greater than the skeptics could even hope for.

    Please understand I don’t want Hudson to go…a buddy of mine had a great idea that we could use him in the bullpen and then he can move back to the rotation next year. However as logic dictated to us 3 months ago…we need a big bopper in our lineup.

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    Steve Says:

    Leah – me too. I have a gigantic man crush on Prado. And I loved the clapping at 3rd as well. Good things continue to keep happening when he’s in there. I’m also with you on the whole Frenchy thing. I’ve really gotten to the point where I don’t want him to get a hit, because it will only cause further confusion for Bobby. It’s just gotten ridiculous. No more throwing him out there to try to drum up trade interest in him. Enough! He’s done. It’s done. Get Diaz in there because he gives us a better chance to win. Plain and simple.
    BluesMan – I don’t think we would get nearly enough for Hudson – given the timing of his rehab. We’d be trading a guy that was still not ready to come back to the minors. Let’s trade Medlen and Jo Jo and get someone who’s a moderately good hitter – that will improve us dramatically.

  42. 42
    Leah Says:

    I want Werth. Think the Phils will trade Frenchy for Jason Werth? What about Frenchy, Jo Jo, and Medlen? I wish we still had Corky we could throw him in the mix.

  43. 43
    Bubdylan Says:

    “I’m telling you – this is how it’s going to go for a while.”

    Sorry, Steve, what was that? Didn’t catch it… :)

    Go Braves!

  44. 44
    Bubdylan Says:

    A Francoeur platoon: Diaz against lefties and righties, Frenchy against everyone else.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I’m seriously going to lose my damn mind if Bobby doesn’t stop running him out there. I should have stayed on my sabbati…. sabatta…. on vacation.

    Alright, I’m drunk posting.

    Spiraling… spiraling…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Man, this site doesn’t play around with the extra dots on ellipses, does it? You put a fourth dot in there, your little sentence is OVER.

    “and then I go ‘dot-dot-dot,’ you know, like in poetry…”

  47. 47
    Anne Says:

    “A Francoeur platoon: Diaz against lefties and righties, Frenchy against everyone else.” Oh, Bub, that’s some FUNNY.

  48. 48
    Leah Says:

    KJ hit a home run to beat the Durham Bulls last night. He’s…back?

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    Curt Says:

    Banter on the sportstalk radio this morning had the Braves packaging Kotchman and Jurrgens (what?) for someone like Adrian Gonzalez. They were seriously discussing throwing JJ into a deal that in no way even assures the playoffs, let alone something more.

    My worry is if you do something like Escobar/Medlen for Holiday/Cabrera, you are not helping yourself much because you take away one of the few ‘power’ sources on the team and replace him with a slightly better one, but does this really upgrade your offense?

  50. 50
    Steve Says:

    Kelly is back. Let’s put him in right.
    Bub, seriously, I’m sitting at my desk thinking about seeing Frenchy back in the lineup tonight and I am getting absolutely furious. Really, really mad. Doesn’t Bobby know he’s not jurt hurting the team. He’s hurting members of the general public, too.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, here’s the word from DOB:

    OK, here’s the deal: If Jeff Francoeur is in the lineup tonight in RF instead of Matt Diaz, I’ll try to find a creative way of asking Bobby Cox why.
    Diaz is 13-for-26 (.500) with three doubles, a homer and five RBI in his past eight games, but didn’t start the last two in Chicago after going 0-for-4 with two strikeouts in the series opener, which snapped his string of five consecutive multi-hit games.
    Francoeur, in that same stretch since June 30, is 5-for-26 (.192) with one double, one RBI, six strikeouts and no walks. He’s 3-for-21 with no extra-base hits or RBI in his past five games. Oh, and for what it’s worth, Francoeur has a .213 average with one homer in 47 at-bats at Coors Field.

  52. 52
    Bubdylan Says:

    And of course Frenchy IS in the line-up.

    And of course there is no report of any hard question being asked of the old man.

    This is horrible. Just freaking horrible. I’m seriously starting to want us to lose about ten in a row just so the likelihood of extending Bobby goes down a hair. Whoever it was who said they’re gonna root for the Reds if Bobby comes back, crank up a Reds Podcast, cuz I’ll be right there with you. It’d be fun. Closet Braves fans riding out the Bobby storm by following another team. That’s… podcast/ blog history right there.

    Do you guys think Bobby looks at stats/ splits at all for these decisions? At all?

  53. 53
    Bubdylan Says:

    lol at DOB.

    “Well… it was as you can imagine.”

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    Curt Says:

    Bud, I have gone beyond believing that Bobby Cox really has a clue. I will also be curious to see if Kelly goes back in the lineup when he comes back to the team. I’d rather Brooks Conrad stay up here. But it really is astonishing that Francoeur continues to play at all.

    http://www.cincybaseballtalk.com – this week we talk about injuries to Jerry Hairston and whether Dusty Baker should get the damn toothpick out of his mouth. Does he eat BBQ before every game?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Ugh. Vazquez is hurt. Out till after the break.

    What else?

  56. 56
    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, that’s funny. (Except I’m so dumb I actually clicked the link…)

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    Curt Says:

    Hopefully Jo Jo is back and ready to go.

    Maybe Medlen is inspired by his buddy and strings some nice starts together – and then we can use him in a trade to get something we need.

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    Steve Says:

    Curt – While the Vazquez new is BAAAAAAAD, maybe it’s a blessing in disguise. Medlen has a great game on Sunday and it improves his trade value. I’m reaching, obviously.
    And now – Frenchy. I’m at an absolute loss at this point. I can’t even, in my best non-fan, super-objective pretend place fathom how Bobby is putting him out there. I get that Diaz is not the answer. And I get that Diaz if not really an everyday player. But Frenchy is a freaking never should be played player. Amazing that Frenchy’s inability to hit the ball squarely in the second actually worked in his favor and led to his RBI. Classic.

  59. 59
    Steve Says:

    Do you think some of the guys on the roster get pissed now when they see Frenchy in the lineup? They must, right?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Frenchy with an RBI double.

    *stabs own head with dinner fork*

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    Leah Says:

    Of course Frenchy hit an RBI double and then comes in to score. Come on kid…let this be your turn around…you can do it…ugh. Trade him quick! What’s up with Tommy?

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    Anne Says:

    …that did us no good. Thanks, ‘lil Tommy, for making that Frenchy RBI double mean nothing, ergo making us all feel slightly better.

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    Steve Says:

    Bobby’s explanation about why Frenchy is in there tonight, “I’m just trying to get Frenchy another shot at this thing.” And by that Bobby means another shot at getting his BA down into the .230’s before the All-Star Break.

  64. 64
    Leah Says:

    AGAIN! My son just asked why I sighed. Bobby and Frenchy are confusing my 8 year old!

  65. 65
    Steve Says:

    I’m angry that Frenchy just got his second hit of the game. This is what it has come to.

  66. 66
    Leah Says:

    We’re a sad buncha fans Steve.

  67. 67
    Anne Says:

    I’m imagining Steve screaming at his TV “Bob-bayyyy!!” in a high Whitney Houston to Bobby Brown kinda way. Am I close??

  68. 68
    Steve Says:

    The kids are asleep, so I can’t go with the initial screaming at the TV instinct. It’s more of a bite the inside of my cheek until it bleeds … whereby giving me something else to think about approach.

  69. 69
    Leah Says:

    I don’t know if you guys follow Curt’s tweets but a few weeks ago during a particularly frustrating game he tweeted, “If the Braves don’t score here I’m going to wake up my children and spank them.”. I laughed so hard…funniest tweet to ever touch my feed.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “If the Braves don’t score here I’m going to wake up my children and spank them.”

    That’s pretty hilarious.

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    Leah Says:

    Have a double Frenchy.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Frenchy with a third hit. That’s like three weeks batting .400 in Bobbyland.

    If any one of you… ANY. ONE. OF YOU.

    … starts to write stuff about him maybe turning it around “for real” this time…

    …I’m going to mow down a McDonalds.

  73. 73
    Leah Says:

    …while kids play in the playland. Come on Gonzo, 3 up 3 down. Is it just me or is this a weird ball game? I don’t know if it’s all the pitching changes or Frenchy hitting that little round white piece of leather coming toward home plate. It just seems strange.

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    Bubdylan Says:


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    Anne Says:

    I think Leah has hit on something…the ABT drink of choice to drown our collective sorrows: a Double Frenchy (straight up).

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    Steve Says:

    Curt – the score was already tied. Did Gonzo really need to manufacture more pressure with the walk and the hit batsmen? Very tense over here.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    A Double Frenchy: one part grapefruit juice, one part buttermilk, 7 parts O’Douls that went out of date in 2006.



  78. 78
    Bubdylan Says:

    well….. there ya go.

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    Steve Says:

    Gonzo’s gotten shakier and shakier with each of his last few starts. Bad, bad, bad.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Everybody guess how many pitches the offense sees in the 9th. I’ll go with 8.

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    Leah Says:

    Dude is tired. Come on All Star break which is the only way Gonzo will get a day off. Did you hear on MLB.tv the announcers talking about a hitter getting benched for hitting .248? Who’da thunk it? Question: does GA even want to play baseball? He looks so bored.

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    Bubdylan Says:


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    Curt Says:

    Wha happened?

    the Braves are like my golf game, sad.

    I was going to write more eloquently about how there is never a time when all the pieces are working together, but they are just sad. And tiresome. Maybe watching the Braves should be like my golf, something i pay attention to twice a year. Hanson was due for a shaky start, but the bullpen has to do their job. We don’t score 6 runs often.

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    Curt Says:

    Is it me or does it seem that every time Francoeur has a big game, the Braves lose. He’s like Iverson. If Iverson scores 65 points. you know his team has lost.

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    Anne Says:

    Holy good lord — Ryan Church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m tossin’ back a double Frenchy.

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    Leah Says:

    Are we happy? Please tell me we’re happy…cause I feel happy! I’m gonna say it…I’m happy!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Fair or Foul: Bubdylan just ran circles in his front yard laughing like Spongebob Squarepants.


    Bye, buddy. If I weren’t so happy, I’d say something spiteful like “have fun with that New York crowd and that awful field, Mr. Parkview can’t-do-wrong. Maybe accept your next (inevitable) demotion with a little class.”

    Ooops, said it anyways.

    :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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    Will Says:

    whad we get? a bag of bats ?

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    Curt Says:

    Ryan Church, who is Frenchy with a slightly better OPS and a slightly worse throwing arm.

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    Steve Says:

    Curt – c’mon man. You gots to be happy about this. Good God, I am. I was so double extra bummed after Frenchy’s 3 doubles last night. Bobby was going to run him out there for the rest of the freaking year based on last night.
    And not only did we get rid of him (which seemed REALLY unlikely), we got more than a low level prospect for him. What seemed more than likely was that he just got non-tendered at the end of the year and we get nothing (plus suffering through him the rest of this season). And Church, here’s his BA/OBP/SLG/OPS against RHP: .282/.355/.468/.822 And here’s Diaz’s against LHP: .333/.369/.509/.878. Looks like a VAST improvement in RF to me.

    And, most importantly, Frenchy’s gone. No more getting mad at the line-up for that anymore. Again – the team has added by subtracting.

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    Leah Says:

    The real question is what to do about the French redemption track? And more importantly…what’s Bobby gonna call him? Churchy? Is it a big deal that he’s older? How will the fans treat poor Jeffrey? My mind is exploding. I’m going to the game next Thursday night, I’m even more excited now that Jeff will be in a Met’s uniform.

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    Leah Says:

    I just read where Jeff said he’s excited about playing in front of sell out crowds. Does he know they will boo him?

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    Curt Says:

    I’m not going to suggest that we should have kept Franceour, buy I feel sorry for him. I can’t imagine a worse place for him to go. NY is going to kill him and having met him, he is a really nice guy. I would hate for his career to be ruined by NY. I don’t want him playing for us, but I don’t wish ill will on him either. It really shows that the Braves were willing to do anything to get rid of him, and that is a sad state for he and the team. Bring on Churchy.

    We can do the Frenchy career spiral tracker.

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    Leah Says:

    When you start to feel bad for him Curt just remember he was less than 100% truthful when he met you.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, I hear you. And I’m tempted to feel bad for him, too. But for two years in a row he drug the money stuff out in the offseason to an unbelievable end. And you can say “it’s a business” but the other players are in a business, too. And none of them had their salaries forced or had the nerve to drive the arb-year negotiations into the ground after putting up an absolutely shameful year.

    And he whined like a baby for being sent down when he was terrible… TERRIBLE… and came right close to whining for being benched this year. And that’s not a class act. The guy is a dunderhead, but even dunderheads have the power to be humble when their team needs them to be. Think of the way Kelly and Schafer treated their send-downs.

    Sorry, but good riddance to a hard-headed cancer. I have a feeling Wren feels a huge weight off his shoulders.

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    Steve Says:

    From Rob Neyer at ESPN: So, let’s review: The Braves got a decent hitter and fielder who bats left-handed, and thus can platoon (or semi-platoon) with Matt Diaz in right field. The Mets got … what, exactly? If you figure it out, drop a line to Jerry Manuel. He’s going to need all the help he can get with this one.

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    Anne Says:

    D Lowe, Acosta, O’Flaherty and now Soriano have made me happy. Bye, bye Frenchy. Buy some ear plugs, cuz you’ll need them waaaaaay out there all alone in RF. It is sad, truly…but not for the Braves.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Ugh, Philly came back from down 7-3 in the 9th and won 8-7. That is one amazing offensive team. I can’t stand it.

    Lol @ Frenchy: 2 hits, 2 RBI’s. Butthole.

    Here’s what needs to happen:

    1. Frenchy catches fire for about a month.
    2. Braves fire Terry Pendleton.
    3. Frenchy returns to Suckville forever.


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    Steve Says:

    A fast start by Frenchy will only make his ignominious decline even worse.
    This is a very funny (and dead-on, in my opinion) take on the Frenchy trade. http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/mets_acquired_francoeur/

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    Leah Says:

    Steve, that article is hilarious. I’m ready for another podcast! I can’t wait to hear fair or foul…is Churchy enough to help turn this team around? Plus I’m tired of having to scroll down for 5 minutes to get to the latest comments. However, they’re always worth it. Defense tonight (with the exception of GA never backing up McLouth) was stellar.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, I laughed my tail off at that article. That’s some serious funny.

    “When was the last time your garbage can swung at a slider halfway to Peoria?”

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    Bubdylan Says:

    btw, our record since (and including) the Philly sweep is now a very plump 8-4. I think a win tomorrow would answer this week’s question (waaaaaaaaay up there at the top of the page) to the affirmative. Might even be true without a win tomorrow.

    But those three post-surgery bullpen guys worry me, the way Bobby burns ‘em up nightly. Gonzo’s down. How in the hell Soriano has held it together given his history is beyond me. But just to show how clueless Bobby is about it, he’s on the phone with Charlie Manuel tonight trying to get Soriano into the all-star game now that some other reliever is unavailable. Re. tar. ded.

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    BluesMan6885 Says:

    I was elated to see Lowe pitch as if he never faltered…props to KK as well for how well he tamed the Cubs. I’m not quite sure about Medlen…all I can say is that he’s got a lot in the tank and a bright future ahead of him. I feel a lot easier knowing he’s gonna start on Sunday instead of Jo-Jo the Circus Clown (as well as not having Bennett or Carlyle in the bullpen). It’s nice to see our offense be more consistent. Not sure what to think about Ryan Church. Better than Frenchy, I’m not convinced that he really is when push comes to shove.

    I’d like to think that maybe the ‘Beast from the East’ is beginning to FINALLY come out of hibernation. Not that there’s going to be a lot of competition in the East this year…you heard it here first…I think the division will come down to the Braves & the Marlins. The Mets are DONE…& frankly I’m surprised that Philly is playing as well as they are…in the end that offense ain’t gonna be enough.

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    Shep Says:

    Great coup for the Braves. Bravo Omar Minaya! You really are amazing.

    Now, coupla things left to do:

    Heyward matures
    Anderson taken out back and shot
    Pull that bullpen together
    Freeman traded with Kotchman for actual 1b power bat
    your in business (probably in a 2010 kinda way…)

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    Will Says:

    Is anyone else starting to like Frank Wren?
    ok we coulda handled smoltz and glavine better…but other than that not so bad..Im writing this just having read his DOB interview.
    And maybe the Bobby Redemption Tracker? other than burning our bullpen..hes been popping some Viagra recently

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    Will Says:

    That was pathetic

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    Leah Says:

    Thank goodness for the allstar break. Let KC, Escobar get well and the bull pen rest. I’m ready to see Infante and Hudson on the field. Anybody know how close we are?

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    Wiley Says:

    Hudson is scheduled August 25th against the Padres

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    Steve Says:

    Another gut punch today. Should have had all 4 games. Ugh. Leah – Infante is supposed to begin some rehab starts after the All Star Break. So it will be a few weeks before we see him back.

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