July 20, 2009

Show #70: Looking Back on the First Half of 2009

Was Maddux under-appreciated?  Will Yunel’s behavior force the Braves’ hand?  Retiring the Frenchy Redemption Tracker.  And our 1st half recap.



65 Responses to “Show #70: Looking Back on the First Half of 2009”

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  1. 51
    Bubdylan Says:

    “That begs the question concerning weather he’ll be Frenchy Pt. II with his offensive fall from grace…or not.”

    That depends. Does Heyward run like a newborn giraffe, have the baseball IQ of BamBam Pebbles, refuse instruction, and consider himself the Chosen One?

    Do his XBH #’s depend mostly on pitchers hitting way more of the plate way more often than is necessary to get him out?

    Frenchy’s early call up might have damaged his career somewhat, but with his mindset, I think something about like what happened was always going to happen.

  2. 52
    Steve Says:

    I think that the cautionary tales of Frenchy and, even more so, Schafer, make a September call-up of Heyward very unlikely. I think it’s unlikely he starts 2010 with the big club as well.

  3. 53
    Bubdylan Says:

    Smoltz torched again. To think, we could have had him instead of…

    Some of Wren’s most controversial decisions:

    Smoltz: correct.
    Will Ohman: correct
    Glavine: correct
    Garret Anderson: correct
    Francoeur: not enough time yet, but… correct.
    Vazquez: correct

  4. 54
    Bubdylan Says:

    “controversial” might be too strong for what I meant. Maybe “less popular.”

  5. 55
    Steve Says:

    And Casey Kotchman: Correct. 3 run dinger, baby! The power bat is already here!

    And Bub – it really is amazing how “right” he’s been on the baseball side of things with the moves (aside from a 7MM bat we could have right now instead of KK). It’s just how badly he butchered the execution of the Smoltz and Glavine that I still can’t get over.

  6. 56
    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, I just can’t get there from here. Smoltz and Glavine acted way more poorly than Wren. And I’m not sure a more coddling stance, while making the same moves, would have made a difference in their reactions.

    Consider Glavine’s reaction to the apology from J.S., for example. Nothing. Talk of filing a grievance. Smoltz starts crying again. Think how unfitting it would be for Wren to go to the press and say the kind of things about Smoltz’s attitude that he said about the Braves. Why is one side of the business partnership given free reign with the mouth, but the other side expected to bow down? Cuz he throws the ball instead of assembles the team?

    If Smoltz and Glavine are so unsure of their legacies that they have to have them spelled out in neon during a difficult decision time, then they missed picking up a piece of maturity that most 40 year olds have in place.

    Of course I agree that Wren’s weak spot is the personal side of things. I could see that just in the live chats he did. That’s a weakness I’ll put up with, sort of like accepting Adam Dunn’s strike out total. His baseball mind is sound.

    And even (or especially) baseball icons shouldn’t have to be placated by their GM’s. Honestly. It’s enough that the fans worship them and the GM’s sign their million dollar contracts.

    Sorry, I got carried away.

    Kelly goes deep. Too late for me to say it now (and get any credit), but I have thought all along Frenchy would never make it, but Kelly would. Not just for streaks, either. He’ll make it all the way.

    End of ramble. Sorry.

  7. 57
    Bubdylan Says:

    Remember when we scoffed at Chipper for saying that the NY and Boston series showed the team they could play with anyone?

    Well, we’ve lost one series (Nats) since then. Lost one, tied one, won five. Not just any five, either: Phils, Cubs, Mets, Giants, Brewers.

    Very good, Bravos.

  8. 58
    Curt Says:

    Kill me for saying this, but it is all right there in front of them: these series where they match up with the other WC teams, and having more games left in their division than any team in baseball. But it is amazing that all these teams are humming right now. The Phillies just will not lose – except to us. We have the pitching……

    Wow, almost bought it myself there for a second. It has passed.

  9. 59
    Bubdylan Says:

    *kills Curt*

  10. 60
    Bubdylan Says:




    *banging table with mug*

  11. 61
    Curt Says:

    we just finished recording it. up in a little.

  12. 62
    Chris in Boston Says:

    Bub, I think you’re exactly right about Smoltz and Glavine. Go to the Boston Globe website. There’s a video of the Smoltzie post game press conference today. He does his typical “I’m being persecuted” routine, but he also admits that he could well be released and that he has to deal with it.

  13. 63
    Leah Says:

    I haven’t been a Braves fan nearly as long as most of you so it’s hard to completely understand how some feel betrayed. However, there’s no crying in baseball…just sayin. We’re winning. Largely in part to some of the hard ass decisions that have been made re: Smoltz and Glavine. I agree that it all could have been handled better but again…I don’t remember the last time I enjoyed watching Braves baseball so much.

  14. 64
    Bubdylan Says:

    There IS SO crying in baseball. *sniffle*

  15. 65
    Bubdylan Says:

    Chris in Boston, I just watched the press conference.

    “I’m a stand up guy.”

    Who says that?

    Okay, time for me to move on, I guess. Well, maybe I’ll relish one more bad start. 🙂

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