August 02, 2009

Show #72: The Braves Reacquire Adam LaRoche

Breaking down the Adam LaRoche trade, the fist-bump, Nick Johnson on the Marlins, and the start of the Post Season Hope Meter.



48 Responses to “Show #72: The Braves Reacquire Adam LaRoche”

  1. 1
    Will Says:

    Good show. My head is a 6, heart is with you at 8. We got a glimpse of that offense. Lets see it consistently.

    Fair or foul: They should throw at Hohn’s head. Fair all the way! Who can we lose for a few days…

    Heres a good one:

  2. 2
    Hamilton Says:

    You know what is f**king crazy is that, the catcher then takes a quick look at the Braves dugout with an “Oh Shit, did they just see me do that” look. It is very quick, but it is undeniable.

    I guess the good news is that this is a clip from PTI, so obviously it wasn’t just a local issue. The crazy news is that MLB has not addressed this AT ALL. With all of the vigilance about PEDs and the “integrity” of the game flying around, I can’t believe that nothing more has been made of this. Even if they are taking care of this in-house, MLB needs to make a statement that this is not tolerable.

    I agree with Will. Remember that GA high school game where the pitcher/catcher conspired to bean the umpire in the head with an errant fastball (

    We should do that to Hohn, but about 10 times extra. Craziness.

  3. 3
    Hamilton Says:

    Here is the link more cleanly . . .

  4. 4
    Leah Says:

    I’m a 7.5. I feel a little better about Adam being back. I think I felt such appreciation for how CK gave us something to be excited about during serious lack there of in early season it was hard to see him go. Then I remember he’s probably stoked about playing for the Rox. As far as Frenchy goes I really do want him to do well but I will always want the Mets to lose every game they play. Finally, I’m pissed about the fist bump. He never would have so much as returned the fist bump if he didn’t have a smidge of glee in the Braves defeat. Which solidifies suspicions of bad calls coming from an evil “hope the Marlins win” part of his heart.

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    Curt Says:

    are we still an 8 if we lose 2 of 3 to the Padres?

    Escobar needs to suck it up and get back in the lineup. He’s really hurting the team right now not being in there.

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    Anne Says:

    Agreed, Curt. How can such a cocky so-n-so like him be such a baby? He’s a conundrum: the bravado is sooooooo over the top, and yet the hurt & indignation is, too. I’ll give him hurt & indignation by snatching his head bald of the frosted tips…

    Leo Mazzone was drinking some serious “10” Kool-Aid on 680 The Fan thismorning. He must still be paid by them residually. I say 3. Go Braves?!

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    Hamilton Says:

    From the files of “This Is Why I Wander Aimlessly Into Oncoming Traffic”:,180500

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    Curt Says:

    Anne, he got hit by a pitch, no less. Prado took a liner during BP and missed 1 game. Escobar is now working on 4 games? Makes me want to rethink the whole ‘Ripken streak as an overrated accomplishment’ view I have.

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    Leah Says:

    There’s that offense we know and love. Obviously I’m seeing the wisdom in the 1st base trade. That leaping line drive catch the other night was very impressive. Not to mention the homerun and all the hits. It’s the little things that endear me to a player. These West coast games are killing me…so tired. Hope I packed something edible in my kid’s lunches today.

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    Curt Says:

    Yeah, it is amazing how much more dynamic the team is with Escobar in there. And LaRoche has been killing it since he has come back.

    Did anyone see the stat that albert Pujols is 7-9 this season with the bases loaded, including 5 grand slams? Is that good?

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    Steve Says:

    Being a fan of this year’s club is such a killer. April through June was this demoralizing, hopeless roller coaster. Then comes the rebirth of the team in July. And now these past 5 games. 2 and 3. We can still look soooooo bad and sooooo good. I feel great this morning after the drubbing last night. But could not have been more disheartened after game 1. I know I should have a point here, but I really don’t. I guess my point is that I’m ready for the 10 – 0 run this team desperately needs to go on. Tommy needs to dominate tonight. We must not lose this series. Need, need, need. Must, must, must.

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    Leah Says:

    I agree…almost afraid to watch. It’s good to see the Phillies slowing down a bit. I know they can’t keep winning EVERY game but I bet they pick it back up soon. We need that 10-0 streak now. Does BMac seem to be struggling a bit to you guys? And Chipper? What’s up with those guys? I won’t discuss the two double plays hit into by my good friend Matty D because he definitely made up for it.

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    Curt Says:

    DOB had some really bad stats about the whole team and their slump in the AJC yesterday. McCann is hitting .200 over this rough stretch. it goes up and downthe lineup, other than the man Martin Prado. McLouth, Diaz, GA, Mac = guilty.

    And why is it that we go into a slide everytime the Phillies do? Great for not losing ground, not great for gaining any.

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    Hamilton Says:

    We SO need a W tonight. I know that we have had so many must win games this season that they are starting to lose any credibility, but WE MUST WIN TONIGHT. We cannot head up the coast after dropping 2 of 3 to the Pads and expect anything good to happen. Please please please. The win last night was classic Braves of late. Lose a bunch of stupid games and then have one offensive breakout. Unfortunately, if you have read this book before, the next chapter tends to be a little depressing. PLEEEEEEEEASE WIN TONIGHT.

    Good to see Yuni back in the lineup.

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    Leah Says:

    Infante needs to heal more quickly. Yuni isn’t pulling out of his funk. He looks …off to say the least.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Today I had a root canal with no anesthetic. Then my mom was paralyzed in a car wreck running over my dog. My ex-girlfriend got married to my ex-ex girlfriend and my best friend is cheating on my sister with my current girlfriend.

    Or, actually, I just watched Bobby Cox manage a baseball game. Same difference.

  17. 17
    Chris in Boston Says:

    Get ready to see Smoltz get released, perhaps today. I don’t understand why it took this long, but Red Sox Nation has figured out that Smoltzie is done. Last night was brutal.

    Thank goodness for the Red Sox taking Smoltz off our hands.

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    Hamilton Says:

    I wanted to post earlier, but I can’t stop puking all over my keyboard. Last night was brutal. Utterly brutal. Soriano is going to have those innings every once and a while, but why did it have to be last night? Wolf was the guy we definitely had to beat. Crushing. What a horrible tone to set for the rest of the weekend.

    Hope Meter has been temporarily unplugged.

  19. 19
    Leah Says:

    Holy Shiitake mushroom that was a hard loss. When Moylan struck out Manny and we didn’t come back and score again I was worried. I went to bed in the bottom of the 9th with two on…just couldn’t watch Soriano blow it. I’m a 2 folks. Chippers hitting the ball but now The Macs and the Meadow can’t seem to do anything. I wish they would take the rest from the Dodgers but Curts about to tell me why they won’t and why being a 2 is optimistic.

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    Curt Says:

    You simply can’t lose that game. Moylan tried to give it away twice, and for him to get out of it only to have Soriano come in and be so ineffective. Heartbreaking. I don’t know what the answer is there, but how they continue to pitch to Ethier is beyond me. It’s like that Astros post-season series when we made Carlos Beltran $25 million. you have to pitch around the guy who is killing you. Regardless of the situation. And I know what looms in their lineup, but Manny has done nothing against us.

    When Bobby managed the Blue Jays, he famously intentionally walked George Brett with the bases loaded one night. i would have taken giving up just 1 run last night. And yes, 2 is optimistic.

  21. 21
    Curt Says:

    that would be $125 million for Beltran.

    That one was a little rambling, but that game sickened me. Even more than the Marlins game he blew a week and a half ago. Soriano has a 10.13 ERA in his last seven appearances. I know he has been great, but he is clearly scuttling now and when it was evident he didn’t have it last night they should have gone with someone else. Or maybe he shouldn’t have been brought in at all. Pierre and Ethier are both lefties.

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    Leah Says:

    I agree a hundred percent. After just a few pitches I knew he was going to blow it. I think I’m finished hoping. I’ll enjoy the rest of the season more if I’m not consumed with how many games back we are. Ok…it’s official. Stick a fork in me. Go braves.

  23. 23
    Curt Says:

    RIP John Smoltz the Red Sox.

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    Leah Says:

    He might view this as a slam but I’m totally serious. I loved it last year when he acted as a sports broadcaster for a few games. Or the bullpen like Curt said…either way.

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    Anne Says:

    Did I ever publically say that I wished John Smoltz never pitched another major league game once he left us? I wish I had, because that’s what I told myself, anyway. He was SO GOOD in the broadcast booth. I’d be clamoring to hire him to comment if I had the power, and owned a station or three. Sad, sad end, you know??

  26. 26
    Chris in Boston Says:

    Yeah, that would be great to have him in the broadcast booth. Then, between batters, we can get to hear him extrapolate on how gay marriage is the same as bestiality.

  27. 27
    Anne Says:

    C in B: OUCH!! (but hilarious) (but not) I try to forget that personal opinion stuff about our men in uniform…baseball or otherwise. NOT cool, agreed.

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    Steve Says:

    Back to the blown save last night – I don’t know how you play it any different. You’ve got to bring Soriano in for that situation. It’s the tone setting first game of this crucial series against baseball’s best team. And those first two hits were cheapies. You’re really going to pull him after that? No way. He’s our closer. He’s the best arm in the bullpen. He just made a sh*tty pitch. It was horrible and soul crushing, don’t get me wrong …

  29. 29
    Steve Says:

    Brutal! You just knew that crazy phantom strike call/walk/non-caught stealing was going to kill us. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge!!!!!!!

  30. 30
    Leah Says:

    If we’re gonna lose, fine. But do we have to lose due to horrible, stupid, I forgot my glasses and I hate the Braves bad calls?

  31. 31
    Steve Says:

    Nevermind. The game was, clearly, never in doubt. What a win! Nice to feel good about the team for a few hours. Now to worrying about KK …

  32. 32
    Leah Says:

    Woke up this morning and shocked by the win! Had to watch the end of the game on even knowing the outcome. Does that make me strange, ill, obsessed? Great win. I like that they have to rethink who will pitch on Sunday. Oh KK…please KK…pretty please?

  33. 33
    Curt Says:

    So I’m at a 2

  34. 34
    Anne Says:

    I’m still a 3, since I started at 3. …am going to the Turner Field box office today, regardless, to buy tickets for self and friends later in August.

    I’m going to the SF Bay Area to see my mom mid-August…debating seeing whether the Giants or A’s (or both) are in town while I’m there. The Coliseum I know well, but I’ve never been to AT&T Park or whatever the Giants call their new-ish park these days.

  35. 35
    BluesMan Says:

    My God. If tonight’s game isn’t a sign of tangible hope, than I don’t know what is. KK proved that he can step up when needed, & so did Kris Medlen. Escobar redeemed his lazy play earlier in the game by getting the last out (brilliantly). Here are the ‘mighty Dodgers,’ and the Braves find themselves amid doubt and having to go through LA and beat down the Dodgers to build towards a possible post season run.

    I still don’t understand why so many people are down on KK, have people forgotten that he’s the one Braves starter that’s had the worst run support? 4 out of 5 times you’ll get a quality start out of him & he’ll keep us in ballgames. The other 1 out of 5…zero control, & too many walks. I think he’ll be a better pitcher next year.

    I think that the Braves can do it I really do. The only team I have concerns about are the Nats…that’s the one team that we should be able to knock around like a red-headed stepchild, but we can’t. That’s weird. And the Nats have won 7 straight now I think? We can’t afford to lose the series against them. It would be the albatross that could inevitably doom any of our hopes for a postseason bid.

    Can we make it to the postseason? I absolutely believe we can…the past two games should be all-telling evidence of that. I hope the Marlins get swept in their next series, & Philadelphia is swept by the Cubs, that’ll put us in a great position to move ahead in the East.

  36. 36
    Leah Says:

    Bluesman, I hope you’re right. You are a good balance for Curt but I can’t handle the stress of speculating any more. I’m in wait and see mode. Could they do it if everyone stays healthy and hot? Yes, especially with Hudson and Infante in the wings. But will everyone stay healthy and hot? Time will tell.

  37. 37
    Bubdylan Says:

    When the Braves play great ball, it only makes it sting worse knowing that Bobby will sabotage whatever chances they might have. Soriano is tired. Medlen is coming along well; why couldn’t he have shouldered some of Sori’s load earlier this year??

    Bobby reads no splits. None. If it gets more complex than the ol’ lefty versus righty, he doesn’t know it exists. I’ve seen it a dozen times in the last two years. Last night, we saw it again. Diory over Kelly even though Kelly is hitting over .350 against lefties. (Say defense if you like, but, please don’t tell me Bobby knows that split, cuz he doesn’t. I’ve heard splits mentioned to him in interviews and heard him say right out loud “huh, I did not know that…”)

    Bobby’s team-wrecking hurts less when the team is nowhere near contending. The old man is killing me.

    Soriano will be on the DL before September.

  38. 38
    Steve Says:

    Anne – for the love of all that is holy, go to AT&T park. I’ve heard it’s just stunning.

    And Bub – I hear ya, but this team can overcome Bobby’s x’s and o’s short comings. I really believe it. And did you see these last two games? Our teams from the last few years would have lost both of those games – without question (especially Friday night’s screw job). Players stepping up. The team not giving up. Something is different this year.

  39. 39
    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve, it’s a much better team than last year. The “we’d have lost that one last year” games have been too many to keep up with. I have high hopes for a 5-9 games above .500 finish, maybe hold off the fish for second place. And that’s a nice year, especially with the future looking good on top of that.

    It’s just that I think the team could get to the playoffs if the manager didn’t hurt the bullpen and create various other troubles for this (very good) ballteam. However, if we pull off a series win here in L.A. after dropping the first one in a heartbreaker, I’ll upgrade my playoff hopes to… uh… whichever number means “maybe if the Phils and Marlins play sub-.500 ball for 25+ games and Gonzo returns to form at the same Soriano shoots a rubber band out of his elbow.”

  40. 40
    Bubdylan Says:

    * at the same time Soriano…

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    Steve Says:

    Goose bump stuff here. Last night’s final out from a Dodger fan’s perspective:

    And Bub – I certainly can’t defend much of any of Bobby’s bullpen management. I’m just so optimistic after these last two games I’m blind to it right now. Wearing my consecutive extra-inning victory goggles, fingers in ears, singing la la la.

  42. 42
    Leah Says:

    Steve…great find! I could watch that over and over again.

  43. 43
    Curt Says:

    In the face.

    Meanwhile, the Fish have been/are hammering the Phils in Philly, again.

  44. 44
    Steve Says:

    4 1/2 and 3 1/2 – what a weekend.

  45. 45
    Leah Says:

    Don’t we play the phillies like 50 more times? Just 9 but it’s nice the Braves may have some control over their fate. Actually I’m a little more scared of the Marlins.

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    BluesMan Says:

    Great way to end the road trip, I gotta give props to how Kelly Johnson has been playing lately. I don’t know where ‘this’ KJ has been, but I hope this KJ sticks around & it isn’t just another set of streaks in the season for him.

    I hope the Braves fans mob Turner Field for this home stretch & the Tomahawk Chop returns to being as intimidating as it used to be (that’s something that a user said commenting on last night’s game…& I had to repeat it).

    I’m more worried about retarded umpires than I am the Marlins or the Nationals to be honest. They’ve hurt us more than anything else…Cooper & Hohn need to stay away from Braves games…PERIOD.

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    Leah Says:

    Yeah…feel free to lay into the umps during this weeks podcast. It will be theraputic to say the least. Any amount of foul language totally allowed!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Great game & series. Javy and and KK really making me proud right now.

    Looking forward to the new show.

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