I think Medlen has good enough stuff to be a quality starter in 2010 and beyond, but we just have so many quality pitchers. I know it’s supposedly a “good problem” and you can “never have too much pitching”, but I cant help but be sad/frustrated that we’re going to have to give up some of these good arms via trades or free agency.
Oh Steve, I think about that many times a day. It’s just going to be hard to sign a big name free agent to RF or 1B, when we potentially have Heyward and Freeman on the doorstep. And we know they have been said to be “untouchables” in the trade market…only door left open is LF.
Taylor and Steve, I don’t think LF is something that needs to be filled. A Church/Diaz platoon will be very good, cheap, and will give Wren a great deal of flexibility. Schaefer will be good in CF. McLouth is fine in RF. When Hayward arrives, McLouth can go to LF and then either Church or Diaz will be traded.
What to do with 1B while we wait for Freeman is the big question. LaRoche is too good to settle for a 1 year contract, obviously.
Anyway, Wren did well in the offseason, in a large part because of the deals he couldn’t pull off. I for one am not hoping for some big deal, as it will have to involve trading Vazquez.
I agree Chris, part of my initial observation and then response is that…we dont NEED to fill some gaping hole in our offense anymore. I like Diaz, even his defense, no one gives more effort than Matty, but I dont see Church or GA being around past 2009. I like the prospects of a McLouth/Schafter (provided he’s healthy)/Heyward outfield at some point next year. That would leave CJ/Esco/Prado/??? (wish LaRoche, at least short term until Freeman arrives)/Bmac in the infield. Maybe Freeman could transition to LF or RF, who knows, it has happened before. Freeing up a spot for LaRoche long term. That has the makings of a championship team with the types of pitching that we can throw out there.
I guess my initial concern is that…if we trade these extra pitchers..what do we even ask for? I doubt we see people being bumped from that mock 2010 lineup that I’m throwing out there. You aren’t going to trade a Vazquez or Lowe for bullpen help.
Let’s remember that LaRoche is a notorious first half bust. He has been tremendous since he came over, but when he is batting .235 next June, assuming we resign him somehow, I don’t want people going crazy about what a bum he is. I just don’t see him going for a one year deal, when this second half will get him more money and a longer deal elsewhere. He has to know that Freeman is looming and I can’t imagine, even though he seems a perfect fit here, that he wants to go through getting traded by the Braves again.
Will’s funny. It amazes me how you guys can look at next season. I’m so caught up in this season I can’t handle it. Must be my one track mind. I’ll be honest. I thought they were going to let the fish leave the ATL with 2. Loved watching the win yesterday and was disappointed there is no game tonight but I’m sure the boys need a break. For the sake of the peace of my family I can’t commit to the hope meter. My heart can’t take it.
C in B, break my heart into little bitty pieces why dontcha: “…and then either Church or Diaz will be traded.” Somebody was going to say it, especially since he’s [Diaz is] blipping a tad more on the radar lately. However. No, no, no. No!
Okay, apologies for the Spanish Oriental lameness. I must, must, must drink less beer.
(But, hey, you beer drinkers, how about the Budweiser Select, eh? I’m a big fan. Not just cuz of the sexy black & red bottles, either. Crisp, yet not too light)
School starts Wednesday, yoinks. I might be slight. Don’t everyone cry.
Hey, just one man’s opinion, but I rather miss the Steve/Hammy/Curt shows. (Though, I did enjoy this week’s guest). I really hope that doesn’t sound like a dig, because I appreciate you guys working to bring informative folks and it does lend a certain mini-prestige to the podcast.
But it’s so much more laid back with just you three (and maybe BP Frank), and the loose comraderie (sp?) is what attracted me to the show to begin with. It never seems like you guys are trying to show off, or one-up the others, or whatever. It’s warmer and fuzzier. I like the warm fuzzy.
Schafer for a year of Adam Dunn. Would the Nats do that? Throw in Kelly Johnson and get a little more back from Nationals? I don’t think the kid Schafer is going to make it. I really don’t.
Then sign Laroche three to five years and trade Freeman for a hot 3B prospect to replace Chipper Jones. I know Freeman is our baby, but there’s a replacement for Chipper somewhere that’s somebody else’s baby.
Trade Vazquez to get some of the money for Dunn and Roachy. Get some hot young relief help for Javy. The kind of hot young relief help that can start on occasion since the rotation will be getting thinner.
Bub, the hot young relief help is named Neftali Feliz. He now plays for the Rangers. Or Adam Wainwright. He can also start. He now plays for St. Louis. At least we have JD Drew and Mark Texeira anchoring our lineup for years to come.
C in B and Taylor: back to your earlier posts. Now that Schafer is going under the knife, are you still feeling ok about the ’10 outfield? I wasn’t confident about him for next year a couple of days ago. Now I really have my doubts. I’m ok with keeping Diaz/Church for one of the corners, but I still think we need a big ol’ bat in the other.
And Bub – you madman! Trading Schafer?! I grant you, my confidence level is not too high for him right now, but he’d need to be in a deal for more than a one year rental for me to do it.
Steve, I still feel good about Schaefer. He’ll be fully healed well before February and he’s talking about playing in winter ball. He’s going to be fine. The outfield is going to be good. This team is on the cusp of being very strong and next year will be fun.
We would have won if there was someone on the bench to pinch run for Anderson.
They had their chances. What is it about Latos? That’s 2 starts in a row he has gotten us, and he came in coming off of two brutal starts. Glad JJ didn’t get the loss. Once again, losing the first game of the series. Must stop doing that. Particularly against the Padres, and especially on a night where you could have gained on everyone.
Of the pitchers, it’s JJ who’s called on to be the pinchrunner. I’m sure if he had not been pitching, he would have been running for Anderson. As it was, the others guys are probably as slow as Anderson and not worth bringing in.
The Schafer surgery doesn’t scare me very much. I am actually a grad student getting my DPT degree, and I feel like this surgery will be pretty mild compared to what others have gone through and been successful. Surgery might have been avoided if maybe he didnt try to gut it out and gotten proper attention earlier.
Right, Taylor. It really doesn’t seem like that big a deal. Actually, the fact that he needs surgery makes me feel better about his season. The kid was really hurt; his problems didn’t stem from a lack of talent or so much from an insufficient amount of time in the minors. He may not be Grady Sizemore, but he’s going to be good player.
Great line, Bub. Yeah, people – my faith is absolutely shaken at this point. I realize that people have been saying the season is over since back in May, but this really feels like the team is careening off the tracks (although, as I write this, in the back of my head I’m thinking – but if we win Thursday and then sweep the Phillies, we’re back in the thick of this thing!). But, I’m not feeling it too strongly right now. Chipper having fallen off the face of the earth and Prado having come back to earth and no McLouth – %!#!@#!&^!#@!
So, my ever-obsessive brain broke my studies with a probably-needless worry. But, just in case: Steve, you do know I was really wanting to know where you went to school, right? That wasn’t some kind of snarky remark. It’s just that your vocab is pretty smoking.
Okay, returning you to your regular scheduled schizophrenic (sp?) ballteam…
I could have sworn that this blowout was coming last night. I really did. Sigh. Bub – I went to Umass in Amherst. And where are you? Somewhere in Alabama, right? If you don’t want to say because you fear that Anne will stalk you, I understand.
Is it just me or would GA have scored Tuesday night if he had rounded third then like he did tonight? Insidious indeed. Bub, I didn’t know you were from Alabama? The Reverand is from Bama but he cheers for the Tigers. War Eagle…blah blah blah…
Steve, yeah, at Jacksonville State, in Alabama, where our school system’s motto is “It’s Better than Mississippi.” Yeah, Anne talks to me so much I do get a little worried.
I guess Umass in Amherst sounds hoity toity enough to spur the occassional polysyllabic bust out.
Anne, it WAS good to see Buddy, homer be damned.
Leah, I might be a psychopath, but I ain’t crazy. Was your fella in Auburn in any years between ’92 & 2000? I was there on and off a bunch, bumming around mostly. Was he a BCM’er? If he was, we might know some of the same people.
Tcc – welcome to the board! It’s good to have you.
Anne, please. I kid, because I love.
So, can we do this? Can we go 6 – 1 or 5 – 2 in these next 7? Can we actually beat Cliff Lee? Can Chipper put together consecutive games with a hit? Will Matty hit at least .400? One little blow out tonight and I’m all wound up again.
And Leah – I had that same exact thought about GA rounding the bag at 3rd, looking all fleet of foot as he did. Oh, had we won game 1 against the Pads …
Stupid Friars…who need’s em. Bub, he did not go to Auburn but loves it just the same. My Aunt, Uncle and Cousin went to Jack State. I grew up in MS and have the public edumacation to prove it. I even likes to go to the libary. Im very serious and TOTALLY NOT offended by your comment. I feel like we should know eachother.
Steve, it (I.G.) certainly is. And did you know (Leah is about to be too impressed for mere words) that the director, Brad Bird, is also the director of two Pixar gems: The Incredibles and Ratatouille?
Leah, glad you’re not offended, but of course by “Better than Mississippi,” I was talking about Alabama’s & Mississippi’s perpetual reign at numbers 49 & 50 in U.S. school systems. So… not a serious brag, something like touting Norton as “Better than Corky.”
I went to a library once, too. Couldn’t find any books, though. It’s all a lie from the Gov’ment.
I would try to express how impressed I am but I have no words Bub. Astounding. Do you mean to tell me Arkansas passed MS and AL? Say it isn’t so! I love how the comments at the beginning of the week are all things Atlanta Braves and tapper off toward a few things Atlanta Braves but most things nonsensical.
OK…I’m just throwing this out there. I say when the Braves make the post season, this year, next year, 2038, we should all meet in the ATL and go to a game or meet somewhere to watch a game. Surely there’s not more than one or two super psychopaths among us.
Kathryn – welcome to the board! And I’m with you. Facing Lee tonight coupled with our lackluster performances lately on Sunday night baseball… This could get really ugly, really fast. I’m already hitching my wagon to a four game sweep of the Marlins to turn the season around.
The psycho humor was spectacular. And Hammy, first your use of math with the hope meter and now quantum physics with the Ryan Howard’s skin and portal travel. Very, very impressive.
Curt, thanks. That song put me right there, man. Right there. I saw the pony.
If we categorized losses and wins into: regular wins, great wins, pitiful losses, and understandable losses, I would say that our great wins total this season is at least as high as our pitiful losses total. We’ve seen some game efforts to be proud of. Last night is right up there.
I think the organization is on the rise again. Not thrilled that Bobby is hanging on, but maybe we’ll shed him before the window on this young talent is closed. Or maybe, as has been known to happen from time to time, we’ll put together some great seasons in spite of managerial weakness.
I just have a fear, after talking with Dimino, that the Braves revert to this recent philosophy of rushing guys to the majors, who aren’t ready to perform, in order to save money. I think it cost them this year, and it will cost them in years to come if they continue. If Freddie Freeman and Jason Heyward are on this team as starters next year, and if Bobby Cox is still the manager, you are continuing this cycle that has not worked. The teams of the 90s had rookies that sat on the bench and earned their way into the lineup. They didn’t throw AA players out there opening day in hopes of them having break out seasons. They treat this more like a basketball team than a baseball team. I just fear that they go through massive changes in the off season where they dump a bunch of veterans again and have a really young team that can’t compete the whole season.
Tune in to hear that assessment again in our season wrap-up show.
Ahem…Bub I was just bragging on how you guys include us chicks. Don’t let it happen again. Actually, I’m used to it. My dad referred to my 3 sisters and I as “guys” all the time.
I would really love a win tonight. I honestly think Tommy could have beaten Pedro Friday night if it weren’t for the blasted rain delay. I don’t hate that loss but I don’t have a hope meter so to speak. I’m just trying to enjoy playing good ball at this point.
Bub..you are right. Leah..don’t give up. Chuck a few more F bombs at the hated Question Marks. I’m working early tomorrow so I’m off to a restless sleep, hoping you guys/gals will pull us through. Go Braves.
F bomb. F’ing F Bomb. F. F. F. Double F. Garrett Anderson is an F-hole. Bobby Cox couldn’t F himself if you gave him a search dog and some peanut butter (I don’t know what that means). That was F’ing F’ful. FFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bub – there is no reason to slow down on the comments section. This is great. We broke 200 for the first time ever. We all love what’s happening here. I will talk to our smart guy/producer about replacing this with something that can better handle all of the traffic.
Steve, roger that. Although, these Braves are gonna cost me a degree, I swear. What’s Spanish for “I haven’t even signed onto Blackboard yet?”
Looking forward to the show, though I’ll have to crank it up tomorrow night. G’night ABT’ers. Don’t give up yet. (Though that Chipper contract is gonna cost me a fortune in Tums. One thing I’ll give him credit for; this is the kind of series he usually skips when he’s struggling to save a little face. Then again…)