Downer show, but good show nonetheless. So, speculation abounds: let’s say Chipper DOESN’T move to 1st next year…though I agree he’d do well to get out of the hot corner and maybe get more body-rest…do we keep LaRoche next year? Do we want to? Does HE want to?
I guess I’ll try and get this week’s comment feed rolling although it isn’t without pain and heartache. I was SO hopeful after the first two games against the fish and now I still don’t know if I can watch a game. I watched the highlights on SC with GA and Nate crashing and KK hitting a batter…in the head and wanted to vomit. What hurts the most (besides being so close) is we could have gained ground on the Phillies. I know it would not have mattered but it would have felt better.
I still don’t see how moving Chipper to 1st helps anything. I cant’ recollect the last time he was hurt fielding his position. It’s all been swinging the bat or running the bases. And, his power numbers have dropped significantly, so he doesn’t fit that bill either.
And Anne, I think that LaRoche would love to stay. He and Chipper are big buddies.
My thinking behind the Chipper to first thing was to get Infante in the lineup permanently. He is a limited outfielder, defensively, so I like him better there. Maybe at 2nd with Prado going to 3rd. You save the LaRoche money for an outfielder. I would not be surprised if Chipper retires after next season, and at that point Freddie Freeman is here to save the day. They need some homegrown Tommy Hanson caliber position players here soon.
This was a rebuilding year and the team is going to finish 5-10 games over .500 following a season in which it lost 90 games. The team was in the hunt until late August. That’s not bad. In the long history of the franchise, this year ranks as one of the better ones. Beyond the W-L record, Hanson emerged as a true ace and that has been fun to watch. JJ is great. Medlen seemed to come out of nowhere and is the real deal. We have a RF and a 1B in the minors who are going to be very good and are a pleasure to follow. We have a real SS. We have a lot of likeable players. Francouer is gone. I enjoyed watching this club for the first time in several years. The team is heading in the right direction. Buck up, everyone.
I haven’t seen the clip, but apparently Chipper was on some local sports TV show over the weekend talkin’ NASCAR, and he dissed Diaz’s favorite driver or something. Chipper chose to wear a mock turtleneck and apparently he looked like a big dork…because when a local radio station asked Diaz what he thought of Chipper’s comments, Diaz wondered why Chipper was wearing a “Nerd”-el neck. Nerdleneck. Nice! You’d think we pay him enough to get a personal shopper…
P. W. Hjort – do you really trust Kelly offensively anymore? And, I realize that his UZR is decent, but my eyes tell me, game to game, that he can be really brutal at times at 2nd and that his miscues this year led to some big innings.
I’d rather see a real freaking 2nd basemen out there that can hit. Brooks had a stunning coming out party and he absolutely should have been on the bench in August instead of Norton but I think a full year of ol’ Brooksy would be killing. I believe that his 5 years of AAA ball with his .251 BA is a better indicator of his performance in the future than his .289 average in 41 plate appearances this year with the Braves.
I imagine the Braves team is very dejected at the loss especially in the setting of an excellent Tommy Hanson performance. I also think that the ABT team is getting a little more hateful than I’m comfortable with. Go Braves. See ya ABT.
It was a terrible loss, but nothing new here since the swoon’s begun. No offense. Shaky closer. The biggest shame was blowing Hanson’s masterpiece and hurting his ROY chances in the process. Ugh, indeed.
Oh dear…Bub’s mixing cold meds and beer. *waves back at drunk heavily medicated Bub*. Next year, first play off game ABT crew and faithful followers will meet in the ATL to cheer on the Bravos. I can FEEL it.
Leah/Bub – I’m here. And Leah, I love your optimism about next year. And I share it. Things are only looking up for the foreseeable future. And, as C in B aptly pointed out a few days ago, our short lived wildcard chase after the AllStar break was really just icing on a rebuilding year. This team was mediocre to bad much of the first half. The tease in July/August was a hell of a lot of fun. That said, I can’t ignore the fact that the tease in July/August has made this total collapse really, really frustrating. Oh, productive offense, we hardly knew ya.
Yeah, I trust Kelly Johnson. I think he’s gotten better defensively and has fallen on some hard luck at the plate this year, but I think he’s an above average MLB second baseman on both sides of the ball.
P.W. I like your commitment. We all loved Kelly going into the season. Steve got to interview him and he is a very rootable player. A super nice guy. I would like nothing more than for him to be a solid 2nd baseman for the Braves.
I’m not sure how we are being haters? I guess we can’t express disappointment with the team? This has been a frustrating season. Add last night to that list. Another brilliant start, another display of an anemic offense, another example of questionable managing from Bobby Cox, and another heartbreaking loss. That’s not hating, that’s the facts.
Ditto Curt. What he said. I don’t think it’s hate, rather passion. If Braves fans were more passionate about their team maybe more key moves would be made re: the skipper and big players with tiny bats. May the force be with you Tcc.
If Tejada had won the game in walk off fashion two nights in a row I literally would have cried. Nobody knows what I’m talking about because you all had better things to do with your time which makes me feel a bit like a loser. Go Braves!
Hate???? the only hatred on this board is our collective hatred of losing, hatred of not living up to obvious potential, hatred of ESPN, and my personal hatred of Hamilton and everthing he stands for, his family, and his ancestors, the Hugenots who burned our village. other than that ABT is a love fest, a fount of mirth.
I cried once: Darrell Evans got traded for basically nothing. I think I was eight when that happened.
I vomited once, too. The Mets had scored something like 15 runs; David Palmer threw inside to Gary Carter; and Carter and Strawberry came out and beat him up while the rest of the Braves watched. At that point, I had run out of beer and had moved on to gin. I hate gin.
we hated on Frank Wren…I will admit to a bit of that….but that was ages ago and the Frank Wren redemption tracker is on 95% redeemed in my book…time has proven him right, and we were a little bit sissy to cry so hard about how they blew all the goodwill with the three kings…Smoltz and Glavine have looked rather foolish…especially in contrast to Maddux. I want Frank Wren on my side in a street fight.
we don’t hate Bobby…we just…well its love/hate….its realism, totally agree with Curt. even though i hate him.
I love the love, the hate, and the “OMG did he just say that” comments from Bub. This website makes the Braves bearable. Bub, Wed. Hanson pitched 8 shutout 3 hit innings striking out the last batter he faced with flare and Soriano gave up two runs in the 9th which, sadly, was enough to give the Astros the win. Last night with McCann’s three hit night along with the offense that finally decided to show up the Braves were ahead 7-9 in the 9th. Gonzo comes on bringing his drama and with two on gets Tejada to hit into a double play to end the game. The double play ball looked similar to Chipper’s contribution to the game along with his TWO errors. I think his mind was on GaTech and Clemson.
I’m not good at speculating the future but I have all sorts of thoughts about the past. It used to drive me crazy when Chipper would be put on the DL…again. I will never question him again. Please for the love of all that is good go on the DL when something’s killing him.
I think it is odd that he wins the batting title just a year ago and now all this noise. Did he get poisoned? I think it is a slump, and that next year he is fine. Unless he has stopped taking the PEDs…or is feeling the side-effects after long years of use….no don’t go there.
JJ is looking just unbelievable. And how about the defense? Chipper’s candor is, as always with him, very impressive (and not just because I called this to a T in last week’s show). What other future Hall of Famer, who just signed his fat extension, would say things like that? It makes me respect Chipper even more.
I respect him also but don’t you think he needs to be benched for a while? He needs a super long rest or something. I’m glad you think he’s cool for next year but right now he’s got nothing. Also, do you think it starts messing with a hitter’s head when pitchers walk you intentionally or pitch around you too much? Maybe you start swinging at junk more or is he just tired? Is that too many questions for one comment?
Always keepin it real Curt. Glad Tcc didn’t see that, he would have gone balistic. Weren’t they testing on a regular basis last year when he was awesome? Anyway, good win last night. JJ rocks and I’m even more excited about next season after seeing him shutout the cards.
Someone brought it up on talk radio yesterday morning and it had never occurred to me – or maybe I never wanted to think about it being a possibility – but if everyone else gets the glaring eye of doubt, why not him.
Got to speak to Dale for a few minutes tonight. He could not have been nicer. You hear about what a nice guy he is, and it was jarringly true. There’s been a few unreturned phone calls the past week as I’ve tried to nail down the interview and he was extremely apologetic about that and told me to call him at a specific time this coming week and that we’d set it all up and get it done. Again, he was just extremely cool.
And was very funny and charming as he spoke tonight. The funniest thing, I thought, was relaying a story about being in a slump during a contract year. Ted Turner, he recalled, came in to the clubhouse and yelled across the room at him, “keep it up Dale, your saving me 100′s of thousands of dollars next year.” As a side note, I love that a story about contracts in the 80′s is on the 100′s of thousands scale as opposed to millions.
That was a great win today. That 8th gave me a panic attack, but a stirring comeback. I was flipping back and forth from the football, and it was as thrilling as any of those games today. I like that they are still out their competing.