Good show guys…no doubt that the two clubs that hurt us the worst in our playoff hunt are the Fish & the Nats. I think we maybe had a .500 record against them in ’08…there’s no excuse IMO for them to get knocked around by either club. I am dissappointed in the Atlanta area fan-base (the floods were awful, I don’t want to minimize that), but the turn out could’ve been a lot better. I agree that next year if we get our big bat then we’ll revive things so much that all the other clubs will hate coming to the TED because the Bravos will be that good, & the fans will be that loud w/ the Tomahawk Chop. The Redbirds are my favourite for the October run…I don’t believe that there’s any other NL team that could stand up to the Yankees. If the Phillies make it again…I hope the Yankees sweep ‘em. I’d like to see the Philthy fans cry again.
I hate that the Yankees handled the Twins so easily tonight. I want nothing to do with Yankees winning the world series. Seriously, I always want the highest paid club in the league to lose. It helps restore my sense of right and fair.
And, regarding Kelly – I agree that while Bobby may truly believe in his heart that you can’t give up on him (and maybe that’s true, like we’ve said, a lot of guys owe their careers to Bobby because he believed in them and nobody else) – there ain’t no way that Kelly is one of the starting 8 on the team next year. No way. Frank will not play the “we’re going to gamble on a bunch of guys and if they all come up big we’ll do fine” game in 2010. I strongly believe he learned his lesson this year.
I know I said differently a few weeks back, but KK will be in the starting 5 next year – bet on it. I’ve read multiple quotes from Wren where they’ve been glowing about his performances, his rising to the occassion in big games, etc. And, the more I think about it, with one of the three (Lowe, JV, Hudson) not being here next year, KK is extremely solid in the 4 or 5 slot. Unless, of course, they think that Medlen can step in and then I’m full of it.
Tcc – I don’t see them platooning Heyward in right when he comes up. He’s the right fielder of the future, when he comes up, he’s here.
I’m going to pray that Heyward does not play here at all next year until the Sept call ups at the earliest. But watch the AZ Fall League. If he plays really well out there and then has a good Spring, I have a bad feeling he is starting here next year as a cheap alternative. I hope they don’t rush him though. Seems like there was another RF we rushed up from AA and that didn’t work out so well.
I agree “.” and not just because you’re my favorite. I don’t know if we can pin the lack of production from those two on Heyward. Maybe I just don’t want to be patient but I say bring him on!
Bub, I’m not questioning anything about his makeup, his game, his temperament, his skill, whatever. I just don’t want him rushed. I don’t want him to feel like the weight of the team is on his shoulders. One of the reasons Tommy Hanson was able to do what he was doing, beyond the fact that he is awesome, is that he came up having to fill the #5 starter role. Not the ace. Starting in RF is a lot different. I have full faith in Heyward becoming a huge star. I watched Calvin Johnson play at GT and play with class and grace and restraint, despite having Reggie Ball as his QB for 3 years. I think Heyward can be that guy. I just want the team to take the proper approach, not the cheap out.
OBX, hello right back at you. And Curt – I want to echo your sentiment and add to it about Heyward. The guy is 20. If I were writing this last year, he’d be 19. To put it another way, he’s really, really young. Yes, he might be ready. But why rush him? If we get the big bat for left field, we’ve got Diaz in right. It seems like an unnecessary risk.
Steve, you could also say that if we get the big bat for left field, Heyward would be in a position closer to the one Curt is talking about with Hanson. Not as much pressure.
Twenty Schmenty. He’s a sure thing. A completely sure thing.
And, what a CRUSHING defeat for the Cardinals tonight. I know they stumbled at the end of the regular season, but I was sure they were coming out of the National League this year. Wow.
Steve, I was thinking of Heyward as a mid season call up like Hanson, and then let him platoon with Diaz. That would give him some room to get comfortable without the pressure of everyday. Curt, I agree that much depends on how he does in the AZFL.
End of July I drove up from Asheville to Kodak to see the MS Braves play the TN Smokies. JH and FF had just been called up. Heyward really looked like the proverbial “Man amongst boys” as he went, i think 3/5. Freeman had a good night too, but didn’t look “athletic” enough to be a great 1st sacker. Time will tell.
All in all, I’m really excited about next year. Go Braves!
Dot, I like it! Derek Jeter, Larry Wayne, and a guy named Albert something or other all made their MLD at the age of 21 and never looked back. Does that one little year make that much difference (sorry if that’s a silly chick question but we haven’t had one for a while so you guys were due)? Steve and Curt are both smarter than I am so I’m usually inclined to just grin and nod and act like I agree even when I don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. But if it happened for those guys then why not J. Heyward?
Jeter: 612
Chipper: 536
Pujols: 14 (which weakens my argument a bit, I grant you)
Heyward: 11
Leah – all I’m saying is that typically you spend time in AAA. And he’s really young. And, if they wait until at least June (ala Hanson), you get more seasoning for him and save a year on arbitration.
October 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Good show guys…no doubt that the two clubs that hurt us the worst in our playoff hunt are the Fish & the Nats. I think we maybe had a .500 record against them in ’08…there’s no excuse IMO for them to get knocked around by either club. I am dissappointed in the Atlanta area fan-base (the floods were awful, I don’t want to minimize that), but the turn out could’ve been a lot better. I agree that next year if we get our big bat then we’ll revive things so much that all the other clubs will hate coming to the TED because the Bravos will be that good, & the fans will be that loud w/ the Tomahawk Chop. The Redbirds are my favourite for the October run…I don’t believe that there’s any other NL team that could stand up to the Yankees. If the Phillies make it again…I hope the Yankees sweep ‘em. I’d like to see the Philthy fans cry again.
October 7th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
G’night, Leah.
October 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I hate that the Yankees handled the Twins so easily tonight. I want nothing to do with Yankees winning the world series. Seriously, I always want the highest paid club in the league to lose. It helps restore my sense of right and fair.
And, regarding Kelly – I agree that while Bobby may truly believe in his heart that you can’t give up on him (and maybe that’s true, like we’ve said, a lot of guys owe their careers to Bobby because he believed in them and nobody else) – there ain’t no way that Kelly is one of the starting 8 on the team next year. No way. Frank will not play the “we’re going to gamble on a bunch of guys and if they all come up big we’ll do fine” game in 2010. I strongly believe he learned his lesson this year.
October 7th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Yeah…what Steve said. I’d love to see the Twins take out the Yanks early, won’t happen but it would be so fun to watch.
Night “.” maybe soon you’ll feel well enough to add some letters to your name.
October 7th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Prado at second, Diaz and Jason Heyward platooning in right and KJ..Straight to the Moon!!!
October 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Any ideas as to what they will do with Kenshin?
October 8th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I know I said differently a few weeks back, but KK will be in the starting 5 next year – bet on it. I’ve read multiple quotes from Wren where they’ve been glowing about his performances, his rising to the occassion in big games, etc. And, the more I think about it, with one of the three (Lowe, JV, Hudson) not being here next year, KK is extremely solid in the 4 or 5 slot. Unless, of course, they think that Medlen can step in and then I’m full of it.
Tcc – I don’t see them platooning Heyward in right when he comes up. He’s the right fielder of the future, when he comes up, he’s here.
October 8th, 2009 at 10:43 am
I’m going to pray that Heyward does not play here at all next year until the Sept call ups at the earliest. But watch the AZ Fall League. If he plays really well out there and then has a good Spring, I have a bad feeling he is starting here next year as a cheap alternative. I hope they don’t rush him though. Seems like there was another RF we rushed up from AA and that didn’t work out so well.
October 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Bets on KJ and the wife name their upcoming baby “Bobbi” if a girl and “Robert” if a boy??
October 8th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Hey Steve…the OBX says, “hi”.
October 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Say it with me, Curt: “Heyward isn’t much like Francoeur.” Or Schafer, either.
He’s a humble, student-of-the-game type with an excellent head on his shoulders. See Tommy Hanson.
October 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I agree “.” and not just because you’re my favorite. I don’t know if we can pin the lack of production from those two on Heyward. Maybe I just don’t want to be patient but I say bring him on!
October 8th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Bub, I’m not questioning anything about his makeup, his game, his temperament, his skill, whatever. I just don’t want him rushed. I don’t want him to feel like the weight of the team is on his shoulders. One of the reasons Tommy Hanson was able to do what he was doing, beyond the fact that he is awesome, is that he came up having to fill the #5 starter role. Not the ace. Starting in RF is a lot different. I have full faith in Heyward becoming a huge star. I watched Calvin Johnson play at GT and play with class and grace and restraint, despite having Reggie Ball as his QB for 3 years. I think Heyward can be that guy. I just want the team to take the proper approach, not the cheap out.
October 8th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
OBX, hello right back at you. And Curt – I want to echo your sentiment and add to it about Heyward. The guy is 20. If I were writing this last year, he’d be 19. To put it another way, he’s really, really young. Yes, he might be ready. But why rush him? If we get the big bat for left field, we’ve got Diaz in right. It seems like an unnecessary risk.
October 8th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Steve, you could also say that if we get the big bat for left field, Heyward would be in a position closer to the one Curt is talking about with Hanson. Not as much pressure.
Twenty Schmenty. He’s a sure thing. A completely sure thing.
October 8th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
And, what a CRUSHING defeat for the Cardinals tonight. I know they stumbled at the end of the regular season, but I was sure they were coming out of the National League this year. Wow.
October 8th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
McLouth
Prado*
Escobar
Uggla
McCann
Heyward
Diaz
LaRoche/Freeman
*and sometimes Chipper Jones
(Schafer + Cody Johnson for a year of Uggla + megalong contract extension…)
October 8th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Steve, I was thinking of Heyward as a mid season call up like Hanson, and then let him platoon with Diaz. That would give him some room to get comfortable without the pressure of everyday. Curt, I agree that much depends on how he does in the AZFL.
End of July I drove up from Asheville to Kodak to see the MS Braves play the TN Smokies. JH and FF had just been called up. Heyward really looked like the proverbial “Man amongst boys” as he went, i think 3/5. Freeman had a good night too, but didn’t look “athletic” enough to be a great 1st sacker. Time will tell.
All in all, I’m really excited about next year. Go Braves!
Tcc
October 8th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Dot, I like it! Derek Jeter, Larry Wayne, and a guy named Albert something or other all made their MLD at the age of 21 and never looked back. Does that one little year make that much difference (sorry if that’s a silly chick question but we haven’t had one for a while so you guys were due)? Steve and Curt are both smarter than I am so I’m usually inclined to just grin and nod and act like I agree even when I don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. But if it happened for those guys then why not J. Heyward?
October 9th, 2009 at 12:08 am
# of AAA at-bats:
Jeter: 612
Chipper: 536
Pujols: 14 (which weakens my argument a bit, I grant you)
Heyward: 11
Leah – all I’m saying is that typically you spend time in AAA. And he’s really young. And, if they wait until at least June (ala Hanson), you get more seasoning for him and save a year on arbitration.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Steve, waiting till June is fine. But who will man the outfield? Cuz it ain’t gonna be the new bat. Cuz the new bat is
dan
uggla.
So, as long as you’re comfy with KJ + McLouth + Diaz in the OF for half a year…
October 9th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Leah, I’m glad you like it, cuz I like you…
October 9th, 2009 at 12:24 am
And Leah, Steve and Curt are both smarter than I am, too, but I don’t let it stop me.
BE BOLD. It’s such a tiny little community anyways…
October 9th, 2009 at 1:58 am
From someone smarter than me:
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/heyward-could-soon-be-157902.html
October 9th, 2009 at 2:12 am
If Tommy Hanson had been called up in the Spring, we’d still be watching the Braves play ball.
Just my opinion.