October 25, 2009

Show #85: Looking at the Braves Off-Season

We discuss all the burning questions:  the starting rotation, 1st base, the outfield, and the bullpen.

 

 

397 Responses to “Show #85: Looking at the Braves Off-Season”

  1. 1
    Bubdylan Says:

    Good show. I hope the market for Lowe really is there. That would be too good to be true.

    Thanks for the shout-out to us commenters, Stevie.

  2. 2
    Will Says:

    Thanks guys. Go Braves!

  3. 3
    Anne Says:

    Since I’m choosing to IGNORE the World Series and its inevitable ending…I’m intrigued with the news that Mark McGwire will be the Cardinals hitting coach. I idolized him as a kid – back in the “Bash Brothers” days at the Oakland Coliseum. …and then he broke my heart. He and Canseco both.
    He and LaRussa will be all pals-ey again. (like Chipper & LaRoche ?).

  4. 4
    Leah Says:

    *sigh* *sniff* sad. Now what will I look forward to every Monday morning? How to get through the off season? These “occasional” podcasts “periodically” during the off season better be great in number and come often.
    My brain understands that a pitcher making x amount of money should start and the one making much less is in the bullpen. However, my heart asks why can’t we just take the guys we have and make use of them where they best serve the team? I was glad you guys finally mentioned McClouth because I love watching that guy play. Maybe it’s just because he came to the team bringing hope and dreams of being a playoff contending team but I think it’s more than that. I love his speed and how he sees the ball from CF (just not when he sees it flying over his head).
    Finally, Hammy, please for the love let your wife answer the door for a while. Lest a boyscout come and offer you a tub of popcorn for an absurd amount of money and get a fist to the gut for his trouble.

    I freaking love Prado, Diaz, and Escobar. Can’t wait until next year! I feel like the all the stars are lining up and the baseball gods are smiling on the Braves in 2010! I’ll see you all in the ATL for the first playoff game played at the Ted in WAY too long!

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    Anne Says:

    Oh, and now that I’ve had time to listen to the podcast – I second Bub with the thanks for commenter shout-outs. When you guys win the Peabody award…who will remember us then??

  6. 6
    Bubdylan Says:

    When you end up here, you’ve been surfing the web too long:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS8GTWOSA60

  7. 7
    Leah Says:

    Awesome music Bub, my Four year old was diggin it. Speaking of kids…Steve I loved the air guitar story this week.

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    Steve Says:

    Anne – you can come up on stage with us to accept the award – consider it done. Regarding McGwire, while he may be a fine hitting coach (and I think that he and LaRussa have been pal-ing around all those years, just out of the media’s eye), why would you want to deal with all the questions and distractions? It seems they are already uncomfortable about it given that he didn’t attend his own announcement press conference!?!?!?!

    One more thing about the severed leg/air guitar thing. So, at this Halloween shop, they were playing “Halloween” themed songs. Except, they were all sung by kids. And the CD included “The Time Warp” from Rocky Horror. And, frankly, I didn’t need to hear a bunch of 8 year olds sing about doing the pelvic thrust.

  9. 9
    Russell Hess Says:

    One of the best show’s of the year. I can’t wait till Wren crank’s it up at the winter meetings. Also one of he funniest, “… love pipe…,”. Great job. Keep it up.

  10. 10
    Bubdylan Says:

    Okay, I got no love on this sentiment last time, but I’m running it up the flag pole “one more again”:

    Who is with me in finding the shows with just “our gang” (like this one) the best ones. I like the guests, and I can’t believe how many top notch interviews ABT has rounded up seemingly at will. I’m also super impressed with how well you guys act as hosts.

    BUT, I think you owe it to us to broadcast a full “Just Us” half hour in addition to the great interviews each week. Especially if you’re gonna punk out all winter long while our eyes bleed into the bright white glow of the MLB Trade Rumors site.

    Steve will accuse me of not properly heralding the interviews because they are with rich people.

    Hammy will say I’m subversively flirting with Leah. [Hi, Leah :) :) :) ]

    Curt will say, “Let them eat cake.”

    But… who’ WITH ME??

  11. 11
    Leah Says:

    ‘Sup Bub. Have I ever told you I’m 5.5 and weigh 420 lbs? Not to mention my beard and adult acne. I agree about the podcasts with our three favorite hosts. I love the interviews but like them a la cart.

  12. 12
    Bubdylan Says:

    Gosh, now I REALLY have a crush!

  13. 13
    Bubdylan Says:

    … just kidding. Yeesh.

  14. 14
    Leah Says:

    I know…I get that a lot.

  15. 15
    Leah Says:

    Patience Bub…patience. I was at Bible study causing great revival.

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    Curt Says:

    Injury knocks Heyward out of Fall League

    http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/injury-knocks-heyward-out-175567.html

  17. 17
    Leah Says:

    Yikes. Is it odd for one so young to sustain such an injury? Should I be freaking out? Trying not to freak out…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    We should all be freaking out at every moment, regardless.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Looks like Hudson’s a go.

    Hope Knows-it-all Rosenthal’s wrong about Javy being a possibility…

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

  20. 20
    Leah Says:

    Wahoo! Good deal Timmy! Seriously, are we worried about Heyward? I can’t worry all the time like some do.

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    Curt Says:

    Sorry about all the pasting but this is some good stuff from DOB.

    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/10/28/would-you-really-trade-jurrjens/?cxntlid=sldr_hm

  22. 22
    Steve Says:

    Russell – thanks for the kind words. And welcome!

    Leah – I’m not worried about Heyward. Stuff happens. Now, if it happens again in the near future, then I start to worry.

    Bub – Thanks for the continued lobbying. I know that we were very, very guest heavy at the end of the season. And that was more a result of a bunch of opportunities presenting themselves in a short window as opposed to an intentional move. And we’ll take your request seriously.

    Go Phillies!

  23. 23
    Leah Says:

    Have a night Cliff Lee. Um Steve? One more thing. Next time you thank the message board commentors remember…ladies first.

  24. 24
    Steve Says:

    Leah, make no mistake about it, I am thankful for you every day. Just giving props to Russell and his first appearance on the board.

  25. 25
    Leah Says:

    Well, that goes without saying. I was referring to the kind words at the end of the podcast. Don’t mind me…I hear unguided bitterness is a side effect to very painful detox.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, you hear correctly.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Go Phillies, by the way. I’d be pretty proud to see a real ballclub with some semblance of payroll sanity and team play beat the hell out of that Shiny Collection of Emperial Trophies.

    (and here we have GUIDED bitterness, you see…)

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    Curt Says:

    I power my life on guided bitterness

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    Bubdylan Says:

    *ahem “Imperial Trophies” I meant.

    S’what I get for trying to sound fancy.

  30. 30
    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, you can live forever on it. I’m 239 years old.

  31. 31
    Leah Says:

    For you podcast pansies http://ow.ly/xjjb

    Does that make you feel better?

  32. 32
    David Spade Says:

    *sticks tongue out*

  33. 33
    Will Says:

    classic Pedro …. im the most influential player to walk into Yankees stadium?!?!
    is there any better way to f@k with the Yankees than to say that?
    love it. LOVEIT.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I hope the Phillies win 17 to 16. Pedro gives up 16 runs in the first. 12 walks and 4 grand slams. And slips on a banana peel in the dug out. And lands with his face in poo. And…

    *begins breathing exercises*

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    Leah Says:

    Come on non descript NL team wearing red jerseys…beat those stinky Yankees! It’s the only way I can watch.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I have grown a hugely large lame mustache and I just can’t shave it. It’s SO awful. But I think I’m keeping it forever. I’m serious, it’s bigger than some people’s whole face. The Mario Brothers saw it and said “damn.”

  37. 37
    Leah Says:

    Oh…we must have a picture. Even if it’s not really you we need a picture of a close replica.

    I kinda want a brawl tonight. First I want that red team to win but second I want Pedro to say something unforgiveable about A-Rod’s mama that deserves a good thrashing.

  38. 38
    Will Says:

    http://open.salon.com/files/mustache1238691443.jpg

  39. 39
    Mario Says:

    DAMN!!

  40. 40
    Will Says:

    would have homered against Braves, no doubt.

  41. 41
    Bubdylan Says:

    lol. wow.

  42. 42
    Tcc Says:

    Bub, here’s hoping your SCIT is renamed the Shiny Collection of Antiquarian Trophies..

  43. 43
    Leah Says:

    Oh Tex…we hardly knew ye.

  44. 44
    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, now you’re talkin’.

  45. 45
    Tcc Says:

    If that was us, Howard would have just hit a 14 run home run…just sayin’

  46. 46
    Anne Says:

    Recreated conversation from work today:
    Me: It’s my Friday!
    Co-Worker: Really?
    Me: Yes, I’m flying to New York!
    Co-Worker: Awesome. Are you going to catch some World Series?
    Me: HELL no. I wouldn’t go to Yankee Stadium if Hal Steinbrenner took me to his Skybox, sat me on his lap and fed me hot dogs.
    Co-Worker: Wait. What if you had a guarantee that the Yankees would lose?
    Me: Well…I DO like hot dogs…

  47. 47
    Tcc Says:

    Hebrew Nationals?? With mustard, onions and kraut?? I’d do it.

  48. 48
    Tcc Says:

    ‘night all…hope the NYY lose!

  49. 49
    Leah Says:

    That sounds fun Anne…can I come? Night Tcc. Bub, it’s time to shave buddy.

  50. 50
    Bubdylan Says:

    I know…

  51. 51
    Bubdylan Says:

    *chuckling at Anne’s story*

  52. 52
    Leah Says:

    Ran with a Yankees fan today. So tempted to push her in the lake.

  53. 53
    Bubdylan Says:

    Push her in and then offer to save her for 200 million dollars.

  54. 54
    Leah Says:

    Good idea! Next week I hope it’s warm cause she’s gettin wet.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Lowe makes more than Vazquez, Hanson, and Jurrjens combined.

    Neat.

  56. 56
    Leah Says:

    Again I ask why we can’t put him in the bullpen. I don’t give a flying flippity flip what he makes.

  57. 57
    Bubdylan Says:

    Dan Uggla can play third base.

    I’m just sayin’…

  58. 58
    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I think Lowe would be good in the bullpen of another team. :)

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    Tcc Says:

    Uh…what time do the Braves play tonight?? I can’t seem to find them on the tube!

  60. 60
    Bubdylan Says:

    Ice. Cold.

  61. 61
    Tcc Says:

    Yeah..and 108 days until Pitchers and Catchers report!

  62. 62
    Leah Says:

    WDE!

  63. 63
    Tcc Says:

    WDE?

  64. 64
    Leah Says:

    War Damn Eagle Baby!

  65. 65
    Leah Says:

    Did anyone else just see ARod blow snot out of his left nostril? I just threw up a little in my mouth. Disgusting! Tell me you guys don’t do that.

  66. 66
    Tcc Says:

    Gotcha..good win for the Tigers!

  67. 67
    Tcc Says:

    Well, he is outside…I would never do that in the house.

  68. 68
    Leah Says:

    Tcc! Tell me you’re kidding!

  69. 69
    Will Says:

    I always blow the pipes clean when I go jogging. By about the 1st mile I have to. Its allergies I think. Maybe I should go running with the Yankees fan?

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    Leah Says:

    I don’t know if I can be a part of this community any more. Has no one heard of a hankie? You know those white square cotton cloths you fold and keep in your pocket? Or maybe Kleenex you use to catch your boogies and then throw away?

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    Will Says:

    BTW I saw that live on MLB….they showed it for a microsecond. It was almost like subliminal advertising. I was drinking coffee at the time and my involuntary reflex was to stop drinking my coffee. And to laugh. Ooops! Camera 1 switch to Camera 1…

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    Tcc Says:

    Yeah, Leah…JK!

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    Leah Says:

    So gross. I bet Bub does it too. A name like Bub Dylan screams “I blow snot out of my naked nostrils”. What about Curt? You guys are friends right? Does he blow boogies after a mile or so of running?

  74. 74
    Leah Says:

    Stupid ARod tying the game.

  75. 75
    Will Says:

    Guys always snort like that playing sports. Baseball, soccer, especially. Football too, but usually back on the bench. You can’t carry around a booger-locker in sports. Opposing team would not only ridicule you, but find some way to use it against you.

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    Leah Says:

    Just kidding…I can’t count.

  77. 77
    Leah Says:

    Boys are gross.

  78. 78
    Will Says:

    aw man…that sux….5 minute delay…

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    Leah Says:

    Use a sleeve. Is that acceptable for sport etiquette? If either of my sons blow boogies on national television I’m disowning them.

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    Tcc Says:

    Would be kinda cool to see someone do that in a heated chess match..Bishop takes Knight…SNORT!!

  81. 81
    Leah Says:

    Still laughing Will. Very funny.

  82. 82
    Leah Says:

    Whoops Tcc. Funny.

  83. 83
    Will Says:

    Curt is a Southern gentleman.

    Which means in the presence of the ladies, all body functions follow a strict code of etiquette. We went to classes on this.

    Also part of the code, is that I can’t comment on what happens when the ladies aren’t around.

  84. 84
    Leah Says:

    It’s ok…I don’t think I want to know.

  85. 85
    Mario Says:

    Damn!

  86. 86
    Tcc Says:

    I need a modern tv. I’m switching back and forth between the Series and UT vs USC, and missing all the good stuff in the meantime!

  87. 87
    Leah Says:

    I will NOT stay up late just to watch the red team lose.

  88. 88
    Tcc Says:

    Sux, donut!

  89. 89
    Leah Says:

    I hate this. Going to bed so I don’t fall asleep during the Rev’s sermon tomorrow.

  90. 90
    Tcc Says:

    G’night..switching back to Vols game myself.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Yuck.

    No, I don’t. And my name does not scream that.

    Yeesh.

  92. 92
    Tcc Says:

    It’s ok, Bub..Leah’s gone to sleep so you can go ahead and blow snot out of your naked nostrils. I won’t tell.

  93. 93
    Leah Says:

    Sorry Bub. I guess it would be problematic due to all the facial hair.

  94. 94
    Leah Says:

    Now I’m going to sleep…for real this time…too much candy.

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    Tcc Says:

    WDE!

  96. 96
    Hammy Says:

    Let’s hear it for the home team – GO JACKETS!

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    Curt Says:

    Can’t believe that I have to root for the Phillies and that they are losing this freaking series.

    Go Jackets.

  98. 98
    Hammy Says:

    Curtis – I was just thinking the same damn thing. And don’t forget that Tim McCarver is calling it. You know . . . to make things complete.

  99. 99
    Tcc Says:

    another spectacular call by the umps! Howard was everywhere except on home plate!

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    Tcc Says:

    maybe the air space over home plate counts…

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    Leah Says:

    Just so you know I paid Blanton $200,000,000 to ding ARod for his disgusting behavior last night.

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    Tcc Says:

    Wow! That’s impressive! And good on you!

  103. 103
    Tcc Says:

    G’nite..can’t hang with the Evil Empire retaking the lead. WDE! CFT!

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    Leah Says:

    CFT? The “F” is making me a little nervous. I may have just fallen in love with tonight’s Phillies fans. “You took steroids” being chanted in unison while ARod was at bat made me very happy. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s new…oh that’s right…no new podcast. Sad.

    Bub?

  105. 105
    Leah Says:

    Good hit ChUtley! And I’m talking to myself. No Braves baseball=lonliness on the message board.

  106. 106
    Leah Says:

    Poor Jaba…I have to say fellow ABTers…y’all are missing a heck of a game.

  107. 107
    Bubdylan Says:

    Heya, Leah. I’m here. Long day. Go Phillies.

  108. 108
    Bubdylan Says:

    Lidge’s season ERA is 7.21? That’s… somethin’.

  109. 109
    Leah Says:

    Howdy! I was afraid I was getting the silent treatment for saying your name screamed something re: snot. For the record…I really think it screams “I’m badass”. Don’t tell Hammy though cause…Hamilton? Not so much.

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    Aaron Burr Says:

    Yeah, “Hamilton” doesn’t do much for me, either.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Philly’s gonna win this sucker walk-off style. I can … phil … it.

    *cries in shame*

  112. 112
    Leah Says:

    Haha…silly history buff. I hope so! If the Yanks win (pun totally intended) I’m afraid the series is lost.

  113. 113
    Bubdylan Says:

    Actually, I had to run to Wiki to make sure who won the duel, so, not SO buff. Well, not so buff in THAT way…

    Stupid Tex and his stupid hit like he can stupid play or something. Stupid.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I hate baseball.

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    Leah Says:

    Shittake Mushroom. I hate that guy! All those high paying guys in pin stripes.

  116. 116
    Leah Says:

    I had to google the name to make sure it wasn’t a new dude on the message board.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    lol!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Oh, Lidge.

    Oh, Charlie.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    This is the WORST.

  119. 119
    Leah Says:

    I hate baseball too. Nobody wins when I really want them too. Sending every bad vibe I can muster on the Yankees and their farming system.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Like the Yankees will ever have to rely on a farm hand.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Do you think Matt Stairs got walked all over as a kid?

    Matt…

    … … … Stairs …

    … … … … … walked … over … matt … sta… *whistles*

  122. 122
    Leah Says:

    Come on JRoll! Actually, I’m tired…go ahead and lose so I can go to bed.

  123. 123
    Leah Says:

    Poo. Night Bub. Thanks for chattin.

  124. 124
    Bubdylan Says:

    G’night.

  125. 125
    Curt Says:

    Worse still, the Hawks got clowned by the Lakers last night.

  126. 126
    Leah Says:

    Bad sports week for ya huh? Karma. No podcast=bad sports karma. Just sayin.

  127. 127
    Bubdylan Says:

    Podcast every 300 comments, news or no news. C’mon, Stevie, make it happen.

    Some Questions to Weigh In On:

    1. Will Javy Vazquez pitch for the Braves in 2010?
    2. Will Lowe?
    3. Will Kawakami?
    4. Will Gonzo?
    5. Will Soriano?

    6. How many 2009 homeruns will our biggest new bat have hit? (20-25, 26-30, 31-35, or 36-40)

    7. When, if at all, will Heyward join the big club?

    8. Will Kelly be here?

    9. Name three trade baits, if the haul is right (Schafer, Medlen, Freeman?)

    10. Will LaRoche be signed?

    Get your offseason predictions recorded now. We’ve already missed one major chance to predict (Hudson).

  128. 128
    Bubdylan Says:

    #7 = when in 2010 will Heyward join the club, if at all, of course.

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    Leah Says:

    I like it Bub! I also say show #100 should be special and awesome! Come on boys…you guys don’t have lives outside ABT! And… we (when I say we I mean you) should have ABT t-shirts made so we can advertise. I’d buy one…whose with me! Of course then I will have to watch my language in case a little old church lady desides to join.

  130. 130
    Leah Says:

    CURTIS!!!!!! For shame! I wish I knew Hank but no such luck. I do know a guy named Bub whose hilarious and knows a ton about baseball. Or Will or Tcc (but only if he reveals what Tcc means). Maybe not the 100th episode worthy but it would be a fun interview none the less. I’m great at knowing what I want to happen but no specific ideas how to make it happen.

  131. 131
    Bubdylan Says:

    Steve’s winter song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwcTsdcYNj8

  132. 132
    Curt Says:

    we have talked a lot about merchandise. Steve was supposed to be in charge of that as he has all the materials. I’m just saying.

  133. 133
    Steve Says:

    I’m so sick about the Yankees victory last night. I just knew, deep down, that money-grubbing evil would not prevail and the Yankees would not take it all. And now that Hal has learned the worst lesson possible, I’m just bracing myself for the signing announcements of Holliday and Lackey. Ugh.

    Leah – I too want to do something special for the 100th show. Any suggestions? Seriously, what do you have in mind? Anyone on the message board have a close relationship with Hank Aaron? And yes, the shirts/hats/mugs are in the works. I was going to take care of it earlier, but Curt stopped me. It’s totally his fault. I can’t say anymore because of my sense of decorum.

  134. 134
    Curt Says:

    I’m pushing for Biff Pocaroba or Corky.

  135. 135
    Leah Says:

    Stevie, haven’t you learned by now that I come up with the problems and you guys find all the solutions? I’ll think on it but I make no promises. I love the idea of a t-shirt, cap (trucker type preferably) and mug!

  136. 136
    Will Says:

    and hankerchiefs

  137. 137
    Leah Says:

    Will, my esteem for you just tripled!

  138. 138
    Anne Says:

    I recommend Halloween in New York City to all. Especially the subways. No baseball costumes to be seen…but I suppose all the fans were actually watching a game. Does this make A-Rod “Mr. November?”

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    Leah Says:

    Cool Anne. The only time I was in NYC I was 6 months pregnant and sick the whole time. I think it was the smells and the subway.

    What’s Jason Werth’s story? I’d like to see him in a Braves uniform. A girl can dream can’t she?

  140. 140
    Leah Says:

    Something weird happened. I wrote #130 after #133. How the heck! Maybe I went all Hiro and travelled into the future to see Steve’s comment about our not having t-shirts being all Curtis’ fault.

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    Tcc Says:

    Bub..where the heck did you find the MH-GG duet? Are you a Classic Country fan or did you just do a youtube search? Just curious!

  142. 142
    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, I am a classic country fan, but I haven’t thought about that song since I was a kid. But when I clicked onto ABT and saw there was still “no show,” it made me think of it. So I stuck it in Youtube’s search engine.

    That one and “Yesterday’s Wine” were standards in my mom’s station wagon when I was in about the 6th grade.

    My cd collection is 90% rock and roll, but I have “essentials” collections for Willie, Waylon, Merle, Tammy, Loretta, etc. Some trivia: a friend of mine told me not long ago that Ray Charles once emphatically pronounced, “George Jones has got soul!” I thought it was an interesting (and true) comment.

    Yourself?

  143. 143
    Leah Says:

    I’m so glad the Phillies are making a series out of it. However, the later I stay up watching baseball the more of my kid’s Halloween candy I consume.

  144. 144
    Bubdylan Says:

    Hershey’s nuggets with the toffee and almonds are all I need for happiness.

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    Tcc Says:

    Ray Charles was right. I was a R&R guy, drifting towards acoustic stuff when the Rock/Country crossover stuff started happening. “Sweetheart of the Rodeo” “Nashville Skyline Rag” “Flying Burritos Brothers”

  146. 146
    Leah Says:

    Exsqueeze me? “Flying Burritos Brothers”? And I opened my mouth making the Baseball gods mad. Not as mad as Victorino is right now.

  147. 147
    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, it all sounds like cool stuff I should know about it. But those are all unfamiliar to me. Maybe I’ll click around some tomorrow.

    G’night ABT. Go Phillies.

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    Steve Says:

    From Bowman: There has also been a recent buzz that the Braves may attempt to trade for Pirates closer Matt Capps, who made $2.3 million this past season and has two remaining arbitration-eligible seasons.

    Some stats on Capps: 27 saves, 5 blown saves, 5.80 ERA, 10HRs allowed

  149. 149
    Curt Says:

    To do what?

  150. 150
    Steve Says:

    To be our closer, assuming we lose both Soriano and Gonzo to FA.

  151. 151
    Leah Says:

    5.80 era? Is it just me or is that not awesome…you know…for a closer? Or a pitcher.

  152. 152
    Steve Says:

    I have to agree. It’s not really awesome for any pitcher in any pitching role.

  153. 153
    Curt Says:

    Why not just bring back Bob Wickman or freaking Chris Reitsma?

    We have to shoot higher than that if we are serious about filling that role. How about a package for Heath Bell or Francisco Cordero? Even Trevor Hoffman had 37 saves and a 1.83 ERA. Can we go get him?

    Billy Wagner. Now.

  154. 154
    Leah Says:

    D. Lowe for Billy. Done. I’m brilliant!

  155. 155
    Curt Says:

    Turns out Wagner is a type A free agent so if we sign him straight up we owe the Sox a 1st round draft pick. That ain’t happening.

  156. 156
    Leah Says:

    What does your hope meter say about the possibility of a game 7?

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    Steve Says:

    Leah – my hope meter is a solid 6 for a game 7. I hope (and trust) that it’s firmly kitchen sink time regarding pitchers and that Charlie will throw anyone and everyone out there if the pitchers start struggling. I also hope that Lidge sees zero action.

    The rumors keep flying about Lowe to the Cubs for Milton Bradley. Does Bobby have one last turn around a bad seed miracle in him?

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    Leah Says:

    Ooooo…I like it! Bobby’s nickname would be to easy…and not really a nickname. I think the Phillies win tonight but not tomorrow night.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Please, no.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Milton-Bradley-sent-home-for-season-and-probabl?urn=mlb,190733

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    Bubdylan Says:

    More on the boardgame king (I stole this. Hope it’s accurate. It sounds accurate.)

    2004
    Dugout confrontation with Indians manager Eric Wedge in spring training before getting traded to the Dodgers.

    2004
    Slammed a plastic bottle at the feet of a fan in the right-field seats at Dodger Stadium after someone threw it onto the field. Bradley drew a five-game suspension. Also received four-game suspension for tossing a bag of balls onto the field after an ejection.

    2005
    Feuded with infielder Jeff Kent, accusing him of being a racist, and prompted Dodgers to trade him that winter.

    2007
    Bitter public disagreement with A’s general manager Billy Beane. After trade to Padres and in thick of pennant race, tore ACL in his right knee when he was spun to the ground by Padres manager Bud Black, who was trying to keep him from umpire Mike Winters. Bradley claimed he had been baited by Winters, who was suspended for the final five days of the regular season.

    2008
    According to Dallas Morning News, Bradley attempted to confront Royals television announcer Ryan Lefebvre in the press box after a game due to what he believed were unfair comments made on the air. Texas manager Ron Washington and GM Jon Daniels chased after him and stopped Bradley before he got to Lefebvre.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Wait, what’s Milton’s contract like?

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    Leah Says:

    “stable, healthy, enjoyable environment,” That screams Bobby Cox. And Bub…D.Lowe would be GONE! Switch hitter, 100 plus homers. I just remember being very afraid when he stepped up to the plate. I like it. I may eat my words later but I like it right now when he could come cheap. Plus maybe it will relieve Yunel from the pressure of being the least mature player in the clubhouse. That’s gotta be a lot of work and dude’s probably tired.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    2009: $5 million, 2010: $9 million, 2011: $12 million

    That’s his contract, according to thefirstplaceilooked.com

    That’s awful considering the baggage. Plus even his production was butt last year. I’d rather take my chances that Lowe will bounce back.

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    Leah Says:

    Ok…first of all, I meant hits not homers (no, I’m not an idiot), and last year wasn’t great. But maybe that was due to the unstable, unhealthy, unenjoyable environment. And Lowe would be gone. Maybe I’m just trade happy and super bored with the lack of news (ahem…and podcast) but it doesn’t sound terrible to me. Of course Curt will chime in and reiturate how terrible it is and add to your reasons why.

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    Leah Says:

    AND…he’s sorry. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090923&content_id=7117400&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

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    Bubdylan Says:

    He’s been sorry before, ya know.

    Seems pretty risky. Not trying to demonize the guy. But it sounds like a headache for Bobby’s last year and a headache for whoever takes the reins in 2011.

  167. 167
    Bubdylan Says:

    Listen, if Curt reiturates any comment of mine… I’ll believe in Milton Bradley’s complete rehabilitation instantly.

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    Wiley Says:

    Scott Proctor Anyone?

  169. 169
    Leah Says:

    Due to my convulsions, cold sweats, and shakes brought on by lack of podcast I was checking out the blogs posted by you guys. Steve, your blog on the service for Skip left me in tears. Hammy’s page being “intentionally blank” makes me wonder if he’s a bit of a slacker.

  170. 170
    Bubdylan Says:

    ESPN Insider is buzzing Vazquez for Uggla. I want Uggla, but, uhh…

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    Curt Says:

    No on Milton Bradley. He’s a total jerk. The TO of baseball. Bub, you forgot when he confronted a homeplate ump on the field, slamming his helmet to the ground. I can’t stand him.

    Josh.Willingham. For whatever. Medlen. Boone Logan, et al. Schafer. Whatever.

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    Leah Says:

    It’s hard to compare stats with my iPhone but aren’t his 2009 numbers worse than Bradley’s? Isn’t Javy V twice the pitcher Lowe is? Also, where would we put Meadow?

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    Anne Says:

    Agreed with Curt on no Milton Bradley. …and that’s from years ago watching the guy in spring training for…lord, was it the Indians?? (she asked…no one who was there with her…)

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    Milton Bradley Says:

    I’m'a kick all y’alls ass ‘cept Leah.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Three reasons to be okay with the Evil Empire winning this one:

    Cole
    Pedro
    Rollins

    Punk,
    Punker,
    and Punkest.

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    Tcc Says:

    Bub, don’t be a hater….dammit! I hate the Yankees!!!!

  177. 177
    Bubdylan Says:

    Matsui… dang.

  178. 178
    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, yeah, that was quite the hater post. I ran out of beer yesterday.

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    Steve Says:

    And we need to get more OK with it, since it’s looking pretty damn inevitable.

    The thing with Bradley is he’s not even that big a bat (that’s what she said). He’s only hit over 20HR once. And only 15+ twice. If he was belting out 30 HRs every year I might be inclined to pretend that the headaches won’t be that bad. But I just don’t see it.

    How cool does Avatar look, by the way?

  180. 180
    Tcc Says:

    C’mon Howie, C’mon Kid!!!

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    Steve Says:

    Who wants to bet that the Hudson deal is done and they are just waiting for the Series to end to announce it? I am beside myself with excitement about the Scott Proctor signing!!!!! OK, not really, but if he bounces back from surgery, he’s cheap and could be quite solid in the 6th or 7th.

  182. 182
    Tcc Says:

    Yes, Stevo, but in replace of whom?

  183. 183
    Bubdylan Says:

    Acosta…

  184. 184
    Tcc Says:

    Deal!

  185. 185
    Bubdylan Says:

    At least the hero is Matsui. That’s kind of cool.

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    Leah Says:

    This is the first time I’ve disagreed with everyone on the message board! I don’t just adore Bradley but if he’s in RF and Matty D is in LF and D Lowe is no where to be found…I’m watching him next season and will remind you all with each homer he hits. How the hell did you guys let the Yanks get so far ahead?

  187. 187
    Steve Says:

    Bub – agreed. Acosta or Logan. I doubt that either are back.

  188. 188
    Will Says:

    Will they give Matsui or ARoid series MVP? Assuming this lead holds….

  189. 189
    Steve Says:

    I think it’s Matsui. ARad was unbelievable in leading up to the Series but’s he’s
    4 – 18 in the Series. Gots to be Matsui.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, come ON. Milton Flipping Bradley? I mean, this isn’t Sheffield… or even Manny. This is about the worst cancer available anywhere, showing no signs of calming it down.

    And does everyone here think Lowe is going to comPLETEly fall apart or something? Jurrjens + Hanson + Lowe + Hudson + Kawakami cost about 31-34 million dollars in total (right?). That’s less than 7 million each. Does that feel better?

    If Chipper and Lowe are our worst contracts, we can absorb that.

  191. 191
    Steve Says:

    “but’s he’s” ?!?!?!?!

  192. 192
    Bubdylan Says:

    lol, Steve, I’ve never seen that before. Congrats.

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    Tcc Says:

    Never too late for a rally…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Player (HRs)

    McLouth (18)
    Escobar (13)
    Chipper/Prado (13)
    Uggla (33)
    McCann (19)
    LaRoche (22)
    Diaz (11)
    Heyward (13)

    Sorry, had to. ESPN made me do it.

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    Leah Says:

    I believe people can change Bub…and I believe Bobby could handle him. Bobby will lay down the law! Just kidding. I don’t know why unlike the thought. I DONT like Uggla playing second in a Braves uniform. Prado is ‘da man! If GA is yawning and loafing out in LF again I’m becoming a Yankees fan.

  196. 196
    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I think people can change, too. But I don’t think it’s especially common.

  197. 197
    Bubdylan Says:

    What do you guys think of Nady?

  198. 198
    Leah Says:

    Bub…I think we need to take a break. I don’t even know who you are anymore. Where’s my Halloween candy…stupid Yankees.

  199. 199
    Tcc Says:

    A curse on the houses of Sheffield, Manny and Bradley, and they should be hanged and even docked a month’s pay!! Just kidding of course..anybody else a Patrick O’Brian fan?

  200. 200
    Bubdylan Says:

    #200

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    Tcc Says:

    Ouch, on the “seeing eye single”..

  202. 202
    Bubdylan Says:

    I get blog voodoo cred for posting the 200th at 11:00.

  203. 203
    Leah Says:

    Creepy, Bub.
    “seeing eye single”. I love it. I’m going to bed. Cannot watch the Yanks win the WS. Will avoid victory celebratory highlights at all cost.

  204. 204
    Bubdylan Says:

    That intentional walk drew the eyre of the crowd?

    … drew the … eyre…

    *cough*

  205. 205
    Tcc Says:

    Great pitch!!!

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    Tcc Says:

    + 1 on the “eyre” reference, Bub

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    Bobby Cox Says:

    C’mon Jays, C’mon Kid!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Sigh.

    This baseball year is a suck, officially.

  209. 209
    Bobby Cox Says:

    Bub, 103 days until pitchers and catchers report…we can do it, and by the way, Happy Basketball Season!!

  210. 210
    Bubdylan Says:

    Basketball season starts in March. :)

    G’night.

  211. 211
    Hideki Matsui Says:

    No more yankie my wankie!

  212. 212
    Bubdylan Says:

    ^ That comment is not by me.

    I’m saying that cuz I’m sure everyone thinks it is.

    I would think that.

    But it isn’t.

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    Will Says:

    I confess…it slipped…I think hes married tho

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    Will Says:

    I get to say that kind of thing since I live in Japan….

    If it had been Utley I would have said.. “no more Phillie my Willie!”

    but it wouldnt have worked because he wasnt in 16 candles…

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    Leah Says:

    Totally thought Bub “I blow snot from my naked nostrils” Dylan made that comment so glad to get it all cleared up. I might be off the grid for a bit…too much work to scroll all…the…way…down on my phone and I rarely get on the computer. And, well there’s no baseball. Btw…the Rev thinks my thoughts on Bradley are just crazy talk. He’s always right which pisses me off.

  216. 216
    Curt Says:

    The good news is that we can all go back to hating the Phillies with impunity.

    Start

    Now.

    Love that A Rod ran to the mound after the game so the team would have to come to him, as opposed to 1st where the play ended. Jerk.

  217. 217
    Bubdylan Says:

    Yeah, I guess I’m out, too. Time to turn my obsessive energies toward Alabama’s chance to get thrashed by LSU & Florida.

    I reckon I’ll check back in when the first non-tim-hudson news hits the airwaves.

    Go BRAVES!

  218. 218
    Leah Says:

    Ah Timmy Lin…all grown up.

  219. 219
    Anne Says:

    Yeah, Leah…who didn’t see that coming? (1) just looking at the kid and (2) that cloud over his locker…

  220. 220
    Curt Says:

    second only to Mookie Blaylock as athlete I am least surprised got busted with weed.

    Tim, if you have weed in the car:

    1. don’t speed
    2. get one of your boys to drive you and take the fall for you if you get busted
    3. take a cab

  221. 221
    Leah Says:

    Yeah Curt…I agree. Smoking a joint in a cab is MUCH better.

  222. 222
    Bubdylan Says:

    Next thing you know Manny Ramirez’ll be busted for weed. You think you know somebody…

  223. 223
    Will Says:

    I thought pot was legal in Oregon and Washinton

  224. 224
    Washinton Natinals Says:

    pass that over here.

  225. 225
    Will Says:

    My thum was num from scrilling 300 messeges

  226. 226
    Leah Says:

    I know Will…mine too! I got a thumb cramp. Time for a new podcast for the sake of our thumbs!

  227. 227
    Curt Says:

    They have these new things called computers……

  228. 228
    Leah Says:

    Com…comput…I’m sorry. I’m unfamiliar with the things of which you speak.

  229. 229
    Bill Gates Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KlhhvfAhM4

  230. 230
    Anne Says:

    Day’s half over and it’s already been great: tour of Turner Field. I’ve meant to do it for years. ABT Fellas, I’m pretty sure I sat in your seat in the press booth. Thanks for leaving the seat warm.

  231. 231
    Bubdylan Says:

    RTR.

  232. 232
    Leah Says:

    WDE! Way to beat FU! Who would go to a school with those initials? Congrats Bub and good luck skinning Gators next week. As you can tell Im quite the die hard Aubie.

  233. 233
    Bubdylan Says:

    There would be no ABT comment on November 8th, 2009

    if

    not

    for

    me.

    You’re welcome.

  234. 234
    Leah Says:

    And thanks for using so many spaces. Will and I are indebted to you.

  235. 235
    Leah Says:

    latest tweet from DOB

    RT @ajcbraves at GM meetings in Chicago. Bob Nightengale just told me he’s picking Braves to win 2010 WS (he was both serious and sober)

  236. 236
    Leah Says:

    Just noticed one of the 44 tweeters DOB follows is Nick Swisher. His latest tweet? “Man! This is so crazy and hella fun! I love New York!”

    It was so disheartening I had to share it with you all. Your welcome.

  237. 237
    Bubdylan Says:

    Oops.Sorry,Leah.Itwon’thappenagain.

  238. 238
    Leah Says:

    Don’t let it happen again Bub. Per Ken Rosenthal 3 way trade rumor for Bradley involving Mets and Jays. Does that make everyone happy?

  239. 239
    Bubdylan Says:

    lol, if Bradley goes to NY somebody needs to film their dugout as a reality show. Well… if they still had Wagner.

  240. 240
    Leah Says:

    According to the rumor he would go to the Jays (from what I can tell). I also just read Nate McLouth needed contact lenses. Is this old news? It’s the first I heard of it. I find it encouraging.

  241. 241
    Anne Says:

    “I need contact lenses…” that old chestnut…

  242. 242
    Bubdylan Says:

    I’m suprised Scott Boras hasn’t used this technique. Here it is:

    1. A player in his contract year plays poorly, but has had success in the past.

    2. Right at the beginning of winter, Boras has the player go and get contact lenses (about .0002 power) and announces to the world, “Oh my goshy garsh, I can’t believe this! I can see the ball so clearly now!”

    GM’s: *mumble mumble old self mumble mumble imagine if he mumble mumble take a chance*

    Boom. 12 Year Contract, 84 Zillion dollars.

    HOW has Scottie not thought of this one yet? He’s slipping… and I’m in the wrong bidness.

  243. 243
    Leah Says:

    I don’t want to think Nate would stoop that low. He’s so little and cute how could he. Seriously, the need for contacts isn’t legit?

  244. 244
    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I don’t know what Anne’s “chestnut” is. I don’t know that idiom.

    But nothing in my post means that Nate’s being dishonest. I was just being a clown.

  245. 245
    Leah Says:

    Whew…glad to hear it. When are we gonna reach 300?

  246. 246
    Bubdylan Says:

    @ February?

  247. 247
    Leah Says:

    I…

  248. 248
    Leah Says:

    …don’t…

  249. 249
    Leah Says:

    …like…

  250. 250
    Leah Says:

    …that…

  251. 251
    Leah Says:

    …answer.

  252. 252
    Anne Says:

    Leah…little and cute got Marcus Giles nowhere…why should it get young Nate anywhere??

  253. 253
    Anne Says:

    (BTW and off-topic, but I like to both keep Bub informed and empty my brain. “That old chestnut” means a stale joke that gets told over and over and usually refers to nothing important whatsoever. Example: Austin Powers International Man of Mystery…Dr. Evil: “I never knew my birth parents. There was a car accident. My birth mother was incinerated, and I only survived because her smoking carcass had formed a protective cocoon of slaughtered human effluence. A Belgian man and his fifteen year-old love slave were looting the accident scene, and came across a blood soaked baby, moi. They raised me to be evil. You know, that old chestnut.”)

  254. 254
    Bubdylan Says:

    Anne, got it. Good info.

  255. 255
    Leah Says:

    Cause Nate’s fast and puts the fear of the baseball gods in pitchers when he gets on base. Also, I don’t know that I’d call MG cute. Maybe in a funny looking way. DOB just quoted Wrenn as saying J. Schafer will likely start minor league but those decisions won’t be made official in November. His wrist is healing ahead of schedule.
    That’s the latest Twitter update from your local ABT anchor.

  256. 256
    Bubdylan Says:

    Specifically, he said J. Schafer will likely start minor league for the Washington Nationals. :)

  257. 257
    Leah Says:

    Wow…somehow I missed that minor detail. Now he’s a center fielder who could use contacts.

  258. 258
    Curt Says:

    Wren needs to figure out how to get Adrian Gonzalez without giving away a Tex type haul. Schafer/Medlen/et al.

  259. 259
    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, what about trading Vazquez to a high-dollar contender for a top prospect, and then packaging that top prospect with Freeman and Schafer for Gonzalez?

  260. 260
    Leah Says:

    Hello from the ATL airport all you ABT’ers! See me waving to you all? Except for Will and Hammy of course…’cause that’d just be silly.

  261. 261
    Leah Says:

    This has nothing to do with baseball and maybe I’m just bored but this song is ah-mazing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCBpGxqtWk0&feature=youtube_gdata

  262. 262
    Bubdylan Says:

    Good GRIEF, Leah. I went through about five of their songs after the first one. That’s the best songwriting I’ve been introduced to in a long, long time.

  263. 263
    Bubdylan Says:

    This is the one…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHE1ZD1_fws&feature=related

    (Sorry ABT… now returning to your regularly scheduled comment section)

  264. 264
    Leah Says:

    This commercial break is not close to over. “I and Love and You” is their best album by far. The song Tin Man is Curt’s theme song. Just kidding. Bub you also need to hear At the Beach, Murder in the City and The Ballad of Love and Hate. Finally, you haven’t experienced The Avett Brother’s until you see them live.

    Now, back to baseball.

  265. 265
    Leah Says:

    Yeah for Huddy!

  266. 266
    Bubdylan Says:

    “Don’t dismiss that Uggla-to-left-field rumor. It’s a legit possibility” -David O’Brien

    *does the hokey pokey*

  267. 267
    Leah Says:

    “Aint it like most people, I’m no diff’rent, We love to talk on things we don’t know about.”

  268. 268
    Bubdylan Says:

    Okay, are you hacking me now? That’s the tune I’m listening to right now.

  269. 269
    Steve Says:

    I’m glad that the Huddy thing is done. I was starting to get a little worried. It was feeling like some bad flashback to last year’s off-season.

    Now let’s figure out a way to get Lowe out of town and keep Vazquez. I’m still convinced that’s their 1st choice.

    The Uggla thing is certainly interesting (so long as Prado stays in place). He’d be a big bat. How many years of service does he have? In other words, when does he become a free agent? And how uggly would he be in left field?

  270. 270
    Leah Says:

    Bub, that’s just CREEPY! I’m glad you’re enjoying The Brothers. They are crazy talented. Btw, I just drove by Bryant Denney Stadium as I atey Milo’s fries. You do live Milo’s right? Every Bama boy loves Milo’s

    Haha Steve. I hope Uggla comes to Atlanta just because the jokes would be limitless. I am also worried about Prado and I can’t wait to dump Lowe!

  271. 271
    Leah Says:

    Ate…love…don’t comment while driving.

  272. 272
    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, are they from the South? “talk on things” and a few more of their phrases are pretty downhome. And downhome, conversational language fitted into really edgy, introspective expressions is the songwriting that really, really knocks me out. John Prine et al. (Of course, John’s from Chicago, but whatever…)

  273. 273
    Leah Says:

    From a farm outside of Concord, NC. You must go to a concert. The Cellist is so good he often sounds like a woodwind. “She knows which birds are singin’. And the names of the trees where they’re performin’.”. Yes, very southern.

  274. 274
    Leah Says:

    Check out I killed Sally’s Lover and Shame.
    “Boatloads of Shame”.

  275. 275
    Bubdylan Says:

    I’ll check them all out later, I’d better peel myself off this computer and do some school. (Just finished with the ballad of love & hate, powerful stuff, though, metaphysically speaking, a bit screwy. I know, I know…)

    Anyways, what a blast to know this band. I’ll buy “I and Love and You” (terrible album name, lol, just awful – but I loved every single song) as soon as I can get my happy little hands on it. Thanks for the link.

    Go Braves, and GOOOO DAAAANNNNN UUUUGGGGGLLAAAA!!!

  276. 276
    Leah Says:

    Kill Joy. I have to admit the thought of Dan “blue eyes” Uggla is growing on me.

  277. 277
    Bubdylan Says:

    Congrats to Brian McCann!

    Oooh… Silver Slugger Podcast coming right up, right?

    RIGHT? *echo*

  278. 278
    Bubdylan Says:

    It takes Tim Hudson one half of one strike out to earn my annual salary:

    http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/salary/index?athleteId=4649374&salary=35000

  279. 279
    Leah Says:

    I’m sitting very peacfully in my childood home and my mother has the nerve to walk in with a Yankees hat. I may have to leave.

  280. 280
    Bubdylan Says:

    Okay, I’m over Uggla. He wants to stay at second.

    Poop.

  281. 281
    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, I’m heading to the mall in a couple hours to pick up “I and Love and You.”

  282. 282
    Curt Says:

    From the Braves FB group:

    Braves not talking to Dodgers about VazquezShare
    Today at 1:53pm
    If the Braves determine that they can’t move Derek Lowe, they will have to increase their efforts to move Javier Vazquez. But contrary to a tweet posted by former Reds and Nationals GM Jim Bowden, they aren’t currently talking to the Dodgers about Vazquez.

    Vazquez’s contract includes a clause that prevents him from being traded to any of the teams from the West divisions of the American and National Leagues.

    In addition, early Friday afternoon a team source said that the Braves and Dodgers aren’t currently in the midst of any trade discussions.

    Before moving Vazquez and the $11.5 million that he is owed next year, the Braves will concentrate their efforts on moving Lowe and the $45 million that he is owed over the course of the next three years.

    Earlier this week, I mentioned that the Yankees might have some interest in Lowe. But it now appears that they won’t attempt to land the 36-year-old sinkerballer, who went 15-10 with a 4.67 ERA for the Braves this past season.

    It now appears the more likely suitors for Lowe would be the Brewers or Angels, a pair of teams looking to add a veteran front-line starter.

    But the Angels will first wait to get a better understanding about how much it might take to bring John Lackey back to serve as their ace. If the highly-sought right-hander signs elsewhere, they could gauge the possibility of trading for Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay before turning their sights toward Lowe.

    As for the Brewers, there has been some indication that they would be more interested in acquiring Vazquez.

  283. 283
    Bubdylan Says:

    “As for the Brewers, there has been some indication that they would be more interested in acquiring Vazquez.”

    Wow, no way.

  284. 284
    Leah Says:

    I got it! Trade D. Lowe for…wait for it, wait for it…Derek Jeter! The Yankees are stalling and we should pounce! Done!

    “I wanna have pride, like my mother has. And not like the kind in the Bible that turns you bad.”. You won’t be sorry Bub!

  285. 285
    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, creep-out #2. That’s the line I sent my friend in an email to tell him about them yesterday. I just got home with it (no cd player in my lame-o car), so just about to spin it.

    Yeesh.

    Curt, that response of mine wasn’t meant to be as sh*tty as it might seem. Not that you’re sweating it.

  286. 286
    Curt Says:

    No sweat……………..

    To think that any team would rather have Vazquez over Lowe is, what we refer to as, the understatement of the century. No kidding.

    The Braves FB posts are not targeting the sophisticated fans such as ABT is.

  287. 287
    Leah Says:

    I need to remember to check out the FB group more often. I forget about it. I bet they miss me.

  288. 288
    Leah Says:

    Um…don’t look now boys but we are almost at #300. Time for a new podcast!

    Bub, wow…weird…I promise I didn’t read that email when I hacked into your computer.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Well, I’ve just finished it. I almost want to say it’s my new favorite album. The little “I and Love and You” essay that’s written in the jacket is a bit much, but the song itself is way more subtle. It’s great from start to finish, really. “She was sick like Audrey Hepburn.” “… and I’m frightened by those who don’t see it.” “… bird in a cage, I broke in and demanded that somebody free it.” “So I’ll scream till I die and … at last all those bad thoughts’ll finally be out.” “… still can’t find how to hold my hands.” “And I know you need me in the next room over, but I’m stuck in here all paralyzed.” “Somethin’ has me … actin’ like someone I don’t wanna be.” (Well, that whole song… every syllable) And every line in “Incomplete and Insecure” (no way, right?) Just to name a few that you haven’t mentioned.

    Alright, I’m done spazzing over the Avett Brothers. For a while.

    Seriously, do we have a clean-up hitter yet or what?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Oh, and no worries on the hacking. Just de-frag me on your way out.

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    Anonymous Says:

    Sure thing…no problem…(had to google to find out what that meant).
    You forgot a favorite:

    When nothing is old deserved or respected
    And your life doesn’t change by the man that’s elected
    If you’re loved by someone you’re never rejected
    Decide what to be and go be it.

    I know you are overwhelmed right now with their general fabulousness but I would be remiss if I didn’t leave you with one final song suggestion…Weight of Lies:

    The weight of lies will bring you down
    And follow you to every town
    Cause nothin happens here
    That doesn’t happen there
    So when you run make sure you run
    To something and not away from
    Cause lies don’t need an aero plane
    To chase you anywhere

    Ok…I’m done…I promise.

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    Leah Says:

    Oh and I was spared the mushiness on the disc jacket due to my purchase from iTunes.

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    Steve Says:

    Some more on the Angels and Brewers speculation: http://rowlandsoffice.wordpress.com/

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    Leah Says:

    For real Stevie…can we have a podcast soon? I don’t care if half of it is just dead air. I’m DYING here!!!!!!!!! Make Curt read Eeyore quotes or break out the hope meter for how big a bat we get for the Lowemiester. I’ll try not to get too whiney but soon?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Teams that would consider taking on Lowe’s nightmare contract have lost their damn minds. I mean, what is their highest hope, that he will bounce back to being a healthy, medium-good starter for 15 mill a year? And at the risk that he’ll actually get worse? Is the pitching market THAT empty?

    Honestly, Atlanta is the contending team he’ll hurt the LEAST, just because they have two premium pitchers for cheap to absorb the funk. Lowe as a respectable #4, that old chestnut. (I tried).

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    Leah Says:

    Careful Bub…you know how all the GMs around both Leagues read this message board. Please remember to speak in code.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    *speaking in monotone, like a robot*

    what i meant to say was i sure do hope lowe can stay here and pitch cuz he is good and if he went away we would do bad and another team would do good and i would be very sad.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Post #298 doesn’t say much.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Corona + Lime + Ice cubes + Salt + a tall, heavy glass= more happiness than most humans could withstand.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    DAMNIT this album is good.

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    Leah Says:

    300!!!!!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    3 of ESPN’s top 5 college football headlines deal with robbery or murder. Oy.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Sorry, Ms. Leah.

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    Leah Says:

    Bub…I’m glad your very truthful statement was #300 even though you stole my thunder. It’s all the scrolling…stupid iPhone.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    (Mrs. Leah, I meant)

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “… give my body back to the earth and not complain…”

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    Leah Says:

    I know…it is a damn good album. Like I said it’s their best but they have some other great songs on other albums. Especially if you like “New Grass”.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    I have kind of a knee jerk reaction to New Grass. I mean, the OLD “new grass” I like a lot: Tony Rice, John Hartford, Sam Bush et al. When it was basically just Old Blue Grass + Marijuana + Bob Dylan. But some of the birdie-finger-to-tradition that flows through some of the new “new grass”… hell, I dunno. It’s a weird vibe. I guess a case-by-case basis is the best ticket.

    If I like the other Avett Bros, it will be for their lyricism, which is king for me, and which transcends whatever considerations about style, shtick, & so forth. Right now I’ve got my hands full just reacting to this album. In a good way – a great way,.

    (Ironic that I will have to adjust the old Avett Brothers’ looseness to my love of this album’s tight balladry, when for the rest of their fans – according to the reactions I’m finding on the net – are having to do just the opposite.)

    Alright, my finger numbness tells me it’s time to hit the sleep button on my stereo and drift this fine day into the aether.

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    Anonymous Says:

    Don’t hate me Bub but I must share The Rev’s very funny tweet from yesterday.

    3 Vols arrested today for attempted robbery. Bet they wish they’d gone to Bama where ftbl players are given cash all the time! WDE!

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    Leah Says:

    That was me…I’ll be honest…forgot for a minute I was on Mom’s computer.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Tcc, I see your Tigers are doubling up NCSU.

  312. 312
    Bubdylan Says:

    … slash/ tripling up…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Tell the rev. that I met Chris Porter and that ginormous tall guy he played with (with the impossible name) while I was at Auburn, and Tuscaloosa isn’t the only semi-pro college ball in this state. :)

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    Bubdylan Says:

    … slash/ doubling up…

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    Leah Says:

    Will do Bub. Heard on my rental car’s satellite radio that if the Braves have any sense they would make a move on Lance Berkman soon (seems like Curt has been singing that tune for a month of Sundays). And if the Astros had any sense they would trade him and start all over. He also said Milton Bradley’s a catch and the Braves should pick him up as well. Just kidding about Bradley. He said dude’s a ticking timebomb. Ahem. *clears throat sheepishly*

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Berkman was pretty awful against LHP last year. OBP of .293, batting average of .231 as a RH batter, ouchy. Pretty bad considering our RH deficit. That’s a lot of money to still not have a right handed power bat.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Or, put another way, Berky’s averaged about 4 dingers a year as a right handed batter.

  318. 318
    Bubdylan Says:

    Wow, even the year he hit 42 homers, 2 of them were as a right handed batter.

    Yes, bub is very proud he found a page of stats.

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    Leah Says:

    So is he able to put the ball in play at all batting RH? It’s not ALL about the homeruns and, for the record, I would take the 42 homeruns however they came. Just curious…who do you want Bub. Dan Uggla is out of the picture remember.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Well, his OBP and average are pretty rough right handed.

    I don’t have any solution better than: trade Lowe for anything (dump), keep Javy, sign LaRoche, sign a premium bp arm, and play ball. But I’m sure Wren can do better.

    McLouth
    Prado
    Chipper
    LaRoche
    McCann
    Escobar
    Heyward
    Diaz

    Best rotation in BB.

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    Leah Says:

    .231…ok…not great but whose better?

    I’m very upset right now. I have walked through two concourses in the ATL airport twice over the last few days and have not seen one tiny tomahawk. Not one teetiny A. I am painfully aware of the fact that baseball season is over but really? What…is wrong…with this city?!?!?!?

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    Leah Says:

    Heyward isn’t ready yet. I’m just saying I’m nervous Wren will wait too long for something that doesn’t exist.

    “The more I have the more I think I’m almost where I need to be. If only I could get a little more.”

    have you learned nothing from The Brothers?

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Who’s better than .231?

    Uh…

    I dunno. How about this, then: Keep Lowe. Trade Vazquez for a something good that the Padres want. Package the Javy return with Schafer and Medlen and get Adrian Gonzalez.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Padres would want Freeman for 1b. I’m not thinking straight. Too close to Bama’s kickoff.

  325. 325
    Bubdylan Says:

    Florida Gators looking very stoppable right now. Texas, not so much.

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    Leah Says:

    Before Bama beats up some Dawgs you HAVE to hear Talk On Indolence. I promise I’ll shutup now about you know who b/c I’m sure everyone’s tired of it.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Lemme see this South Carolina drive and then I’ll go check it out.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Alright, there were some groovy things about that tune (and I mean that), but I’m a ballads, ballads, and more ballads kind of guy. I have ADHD, so when a song goes that fast, the little squirrels in my noggin start freakin’ out a bit.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    AAAAAAAUGGHHH! What happened in the Florida game while I was on Youtube??? SC was driving and now FLA just scored???

    Curse you LEAH THE PREACHER’S WIFE! CURSE YOU TO HECK!

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    Leah Says:

    Haha. It was less painful that way. Sometime checkout the lyrics. Inpromise you’ll live it. Take an extra dose of your meds.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Inpromise I’ll live it?

    *hands you my meds*

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Alrighty, bama time. Yikes, these bulldogs look pretty fired up. See ya.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Roll Tide!

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    Leah Says:

    Inpromise you’ll live it. You’ve never heard that very common phrase? It means…something really awe inspiring will occur which will cause you to live peacefully forever. Come on Bub…get with it!

    Those Dawgs rolled over and played dead.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    “Those Dawgs rolled over and played dead.”

    Really? Cuz the scoreboard says they won 31 to 24. :)

    (You walked right into that one)

    Seriously, though, if you’d seen that first quarter and the intensity Miss. State brought, and the unveiling of their black jerseys, and the crowd… and if you’d seen the number of times Bama went acrobatic crazy to knock away touchdown passes… you wouldn’t say that. Bama played their best game of the year.

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    Curt Says:

    Go Dawgs

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    Tcc Says:

    C’mon, Falcons…

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    Will Says:

    Go Jackets….

  339. 339
    Curt Says:

    How about the Jackets Will. #7.

    No comment on the Falcons

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    Tcc Says:

    No ROY for Tommy H. Rats!!!

  341. 341
    Leah Says:

    :(

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    Anne Says:

    I live on the edge: spending my Monday evening pencilling in 2010 Braves home games in my new 2010 calendar. Yes…I keep a paper calendar. Wanna fight about it??

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    Leah Says:

    “pencilling”. Put those suckers in ink my friend. That’s awesome! You always seem so busy, I’m glad to hear you’re having a nice relaxing night.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Did you know that the words “very” and “disco” make up the word “discovery”? I freaking KNEW Barry Gibb was deep.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkL_YLYarUo&feature=fvw

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Taking bets on the comments reaching 500 before these slackers cue up the next hurrah.

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    Tcc Says:

    Slackers!

  347. 347
    Tcc Says:

    Slackers!!

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    Tcc Says:

    Not really, just missing the weekly pc.

  349. 349
    Tcc Says:

    ABT Jones…I gotta ABT Jones, I gotta ABT Jones, Baby ooh ooh ooh!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    SCORE 100 for the “Basketball Jones” reference. :)

    (It did take me a second…)

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    Mario Says:

    WoW! (hated to leave it on an odd number)..

  352. 352
    Mario Says:

    Mario says “Happy Bassetball Season”

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    Mario Says:

    Mario also says “Why shouldn’t we be posting here instead of watching the worst MNF ever!!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    So, rumor has it the Braves are looking for a “second teir” bat. Dan Uggla’s #’s at the 4-spot may start to look like a pipe dream before this offseason is over.

    Sigh.

    What would have been so stinking bad about Adam Dunn again? My kingdom for a slugger.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    teir? Can’t beleive I did that…

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    Bubdylan Says:

    HELLO??

    Okay, I’m putting Elvis’s “Lonesome Tonight” on repeat1 until somebody speaks.

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    Leah Says:

    Please…for the love…stop the music (Rihanna’s cute but she doesn’t know everything. That song will drive you crazy.

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    Leah Says:

    Now that I’ve saved Bub from insanity…g’night ABTers. And I agree with Tcc…SLACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Whew. Thanks. How did that song make #1? The hell was #2, Sylvia’s Mother?

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    Will Says:

    Curt-

    hey hey thats ok
    you’ll all work for us someday!!!

    THWG!

    lol…

  361. 361
    Curt Says:

    patience my pretties. there are things in the works. ABT-wise, not Braves big bat-wise.

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    Anne Says:

    Curt, I’m giving you and the boys NO grief. (but it must make you all feel great to have groupies)

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    Leah Says:

    I’m holding my lighter in the air chanting ABT, ABT…etc.

  364. 364
    Curt Says:

    It is very humbling to have people wanting more shows, no doubt. there just isn’t a ton going on right now. but we owe it to our throngs to put some stuff out there. new show on sunday.

  365. 365
    Leah Says:

    Yeehaw! Who needs news to have a podcast. Thanks guys! You are helping my recovery process. Detox=poo.

  366. 366
    Curt Says:

    Gonzalez has signed with Boras, which might signal his not signing with the Braves.

  367. 367
    Tcc Says:

    90 days until pitchers (minus Gonzo?) and catchers report!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Leah, are you in alcohol detox? If so, sorry for all the corona references, yeesh.

    Boras on Gonzo always allowing the tying run to at least make it to the plate:

    “See, here’s a chart, Mr. Cashman, of all the extra dollars spent at Turner last year on beers while Mike drug the game out to the last dramatic moment. And those subsequent heart attack victims and their families’ dollars flooding Fulton County during Mike’s stint? Those are dollars that could come to New York. So, again, what you are calling a ‘concern’ is just a negative way of regarding future revenues. I’ve adjusted it a little for the $12 beers you sell here, of course.”

    “Oh, and here are charts of the pop flies Gonzo hit in the 4 times he has ever had to come to bat himself. You can see that all 4 would be homers in your new stadium. So, Mike brings you offense, too.”

  369. 369
    Leah Says:

    Heavens no Bub…I’m a preacher’s wife. I’m referring to my basball addiction. I like corona.

    I apologize if light mannered references to detox or rehabilitation offends any of my fellow commenters.

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    Curt Says:

    Speaking of that, Bub, everyone knows they stop selling beer after the 7th inning.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, yeah, but where Boras is concerned, what “everyone knows” seldom plays into the final analysis.

    Okay, Leah. I thought so the first time you said it… and then this time I wasn’t sure. Not that a preacher’s wife is immune to alcoholism, sheesh. (I don’t mean that in any insulting way.)

  372. 372
    Leah Says:

    Hey Steve and Curtis (Hamilton, well, how can I know if you still exist), I’m sure many of our cult, ahem, community already know how ABT got started. I, however, do not. How did you three (if there still are three) meet? Whose brain child was this fantastic podcast? How has it evolved? What has been your most exciting moment? Hey, maybe these questions could be answered during a show, you know, if it wouldn’t bore all those lucky enough to be privy to that sorta info.

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    Leah Says:

    Bub, do you find it strange that we often comment at the same time? Have you hacked my iPhone?

  374. 374
    Bubdylan Says:

    Psshh. I don’t hack. I’m old school: binoculars.

  375. 375
    Leah Says:

    Hilarious! Me too. No security system needed… just my rottweiler named Killer and my trusty 22.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    :( Lost my Rot/collie this time last year.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Wait, I’m wrong. It was in Spring of this year. I think. Ugh. I used to have a good memory.

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    Anne Says:

    Not to plug another sports podcast on ABT…but I’m going to, merely because it’s not a direct competitor. Have I plugged “Only a Game” out of Boston? So great. It covers nearly every sport and “sport” you can think of. Bill Littlefield makes me happy, even with his lame rhymes each week. I recommend everyone who hasn’t heard of it, check it out at least once.

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    Leah Says:

    Oh no Bub! I’m so sorry! That’s it..no more jokes from me. I’ve offended anyone whose ever struggled with substance abuse and made you think of your poor puppy.

    Anne, if the Rev hears I’m listening to another podcast he may put me on notice. No more time.

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    Bubdylan Says:

    No no, Leah. It’s not like that. I like thinking about her. I just re-watched her on video. I’m not THAT fragile. Also the detox thing wasn’t me being offended, it was me being careful not to offend.

    So, d’you hear the one about the puppy that O.D.’d on crack? Okay, that’s bad…

  381. 381
    Leah Says:

    Ok. I’m still tramatized. I couldn’t have joked about my pit-bull could I?

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    Will Says:

    Re ABT history…this is how I know it…Curt and Ham and I were born raised grew up in Atlanta and went to the same high school. Steve moved to ATL about 1990-91? and Ham and Steve worked at a theater in Atlanta called Barking Dog.. (?) as both actors and producers (?) Ham left ATL for NYC in 1998? and worked in consulting and then moved to Boston in about 2000? and started his own consulting biz but keeps in touch with all the ATL folks and him and Steve must have just out of the blue decided they love the Braves so much they had to tell the world about it…About a year(18 mo?) ago Ham had a really nice party at his house and we all got together and Ham was “hey guys…check out this thing Steve and I are doing”. Among our friends in ATL Curt and I were only listeners at the time…but since Curt’s baseball brain is very very big…it was natural that they had him on as a guest and then a regular….I am an simpleton/idiot who just watched the Braves on TV all my life because my dad and half-breed relatives can only manage to talk about the Braves, the Dogs, and barbecue. I weave in and out of Atlanta due to my job, and my job has kept me in Japan since 2001. I love ATL, the Braves, and ABT!!

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    Bubdylan Says:

    Now is the time for my bi-monthly resolve to ditch my internet addiction and sports obsession and get started with some sort of life. I’ll spare you all the long, weird goodbye. Lord knows I’ll be back unless something better finally happens. Bye, Leah. Be good to the Rev.

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    Leah Says:

    After hours of scrolling and a water break for rehydration followed by more scrolling I have come to the “Submit Comment” box. whew. Will, thanks for the history. Really cool. I have learned so much from the podcasts, blogs and message board this season and look forward to the seasons to come.

    Funny how Bub gave up his sports obsession days before the Iron Bowl. I guess he needs time to gather his face paint, stock up on beer and learn “Rammer Jammer” in Spanish. Now whose gonna post hilariously entertaining comments so I’m not driven to insanity by mornings of “YO Gaba Gaba” and afternoons of very long middle school basketball games? Huh? WHO?

    “Be good to the Rev.” Easiest job in the world

  385. 385
    Leah Says:

    RF Nick Swisher is available according to Bob Nightengale.

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    Will Says:

    Leah: I didnt really answer why or how Steve and Ham got it started tho….because I dont know. Maybe they are better for that? Im curious too…

    Bub- dont be a stranger, your fans will be dissapointed.

  387. 387
    Leah Says:

    “This is ‘Hot Ham’ and Steve’s House of Braves Talk”…how far you’ve come.

  388. 388
    Tcc Says:

    Will…yeah, thanks for some history of the podcast. I’d been wondering about that too.

    Vazquez fourth in the CY voting…good on him! I’d keep him..

  389. 389
    Leah Says:

    What do we know about Lee Hyde? Could he be successful in the bullpen in 2010?

  390. 390
    Curt Says:

    Hyde is really high on the Braves’ radar. He’s been hurt a lot which has really hampered his progress through the minors, but he has pitched well when he has.

    DOB just wrote about him:
    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/11/17/braves-could-add-to-roster-by-friday/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_braves_blog

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    Leah Says:

    Cannot wait for the new show!

  392. 392
    Leah Says:

    Feels like Christmas…

  393. 393
    Leah Says:

    I wonder if I can make it to #400 all by my lonesome?

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    Leah Says:

    Not that anyone will notice due to the new podcast.

  395. 395
    Leah Says:

    That’s right folks! NEW PODCAST!

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    Leah Says:

    Too tired to think of clever things…oh well. Bub will be so disappointed.

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    Leah Says:

    Dagger…in my heart.

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