December 06, 2009

Show #87: The Braves Retool the Bullpen with Wagner and Saito

Billy Wagner and Takashi Saito join the Braves’ bullpen.  Revisiting 1st base.  And clearing up that Bob Rathbun hire.



447 Responses to “Show #87: The Braves Retool the Bullpen with Wagner and Saito”

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  1. 251
    Bubdylan Says:

    So, what was the twinkle in Bobby’s eye business regarding a bat, then? Nothing? Nady doesn’t make my eye twinkle.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think people have fully realized just how ridiculous a staff of Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hanson, Hudson, Kawakami with Wagner at the back end is going to be.

    But, what a shame to be that close to possible DOMINANCE, just to come up one measley player short.

    Where’s the bat? Would they really g into two offseasons in a row talking about this bat and come out with … Garret Anderson and Xavier Nady??

    Oh, well. We can grab the Wild Card with this team AS IS, if Heyward performs.

    Go BRAVES!!! Dump LOWE!!

  2. 252
    Bubdylan Says:

    That’s good news, Curt. Competition should make a real difference in the return/ $$ eaten.

  3. 253
    Bubdylan Says:

    “As the deal stands now, M’s prospects would only be going to Philadelphia, not Toronto, sources tell Todd Zolecki of”

    Yikes. Oh well, at least the Mets are sleeping.

  4. 254
    Curt Says:

    Well, with Matsui going to the Angels, they might have an extra outfielder. Sounds like he is going to be primarily their DH, but even still.

    And, further word, is that Philly is losing Happ, Blanton and Dominic Brown, their top positional prospect, in this deal. BluesMan is right. Their pitching staff is going to be gutted. Who is going to start for them? They’ll have 2 guys. Halladay and Hamels coming off a horrible season. Lee is gone. Is Madson going to start? Are they going to sign someone like Ben Sheets? Is Moyer back? I’ll take the end result.

  5. 255
    Curt Says:

    Sorry. Talk is that Lee might not be going. It might be the package of Happ, Blanton and Brown instead. Top-3 of Halladay, Lee and Hamels is pretty solid. Even with Hamels’ 2009.


  6. 256
    Bubdylan Says:

    Curt, that talk is from hours ago, unless you’ve got something fresh. What talk do you have?

    MLBTR has this as its latest:

    10:12pm: Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun (via Twitter) has Toronto getting Kyle Drabek, Michael Taylor, and Travis D’Arnaud; Philly getting Roy Halladay and Phillippe Aumont; and the Mariners getting Cliff Lee, plus another piece (or, pieces).

  7. 257
    Bubdylan Says:

    “The Cardinals have offered Matt Holliday a deal which would pay him $16MM per year for at least eight seasons, writes Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.”

    That is absolutely, totally, utterly, catimaclismically insane.

    (Leah, where you atz?)

  8. 258
    I like baseball Says:

    Sorry to miss such great chatter but I was helping a friend stay married. Not to mention the fact that December is eating me alive. If the Philly’s end up with Lee and Halliday I’m in my van down by the river partaking in a strong illegal substance and jumping in said river.
    Bub, do you just look at different Twitter pages or do you have an account? Cause, I haven’t recieved a follow request from you…I’m sure it’s some sort of electronic delay. I get it…you’re afraid the Rev will kick your ass. Between you and me, I think you could take him.
    (If you have an account and you’re afraid I’m a crazy phsycho lady just pretend you don’t even know what it means to tweet.)

  9. 259
    Bubdylan Says:

    The Phillies will be unstoppable if they somehow keep Lee and add Halladay. Even if Atlanta’s rotation matches theirs in ERA over the year cuz of our depth, those hitters will put them way ahead. Not only that, but while Atlanta’s rotation is built for winning a division/ wild card, a Lee-Halladay combo would be built for postseason domination, where the first and second starters are the most important pieces of your team.

    Would be bad, bad news. Atlanta could still capture the wild card, but Philly would win 105 games and be post-season beasts. The Phils would fall back to earth in 2011 when Lee jets, and the Heyward-Hanson-Jurrjens trifecta should enter its full strength then, but who wants to wait another year? Say NO to Lee-Halladay.

    Leah, I might could take the Rev, but his Boss is another story. We’ll figure out the tweet bid’ness when I get back. Going to make the family rounds the next few days.

  10. 260
    I like baseball Says:

    I’m literally holding my breath until Lee is elswhere. Whatup Bub? Doesn’t your family know you have priorities? Do they not own computers?

  11. 261
    I like baseball Says:

    Something tells me there could be lots to talk about after this week. What do you say guys…new show? I’m not above crashing the message board again.

  12. 262
    Curt Says:

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    I like baseball Says:

    Also named by Time mag one of the top 10 albums in 2009. Just sayin.

  14. 264
    Hammy Says:

    Hey gang – Sorry for being away, looks like I have missed some good talk. A couple of things. . . .

    – We are planning a show for Sunday. Message received. Lots to talk about, including my getting to hold both of the Red Sox world series trophies and meeting Sam Kennedy, COO of said Red Sox. Pretty cool. Also pretty funny watching the couple of Cubs fans in attendance staying as far away as possible while still looking longingly at them.

    – I think that Zep III is one of the best/most under-rated albums by them. Since I’ve Been Loving You is one of the greatest rock/blues songs of all time. Celebration Day. Tangerine. Out on the Tiles. Amazing record.

    – I love Physical Graffiti though. In the Light is a HOF rock song. Ten Years Gone is also quite good. In My Time of Dying. Quite a few others.

  15. 265
    Bubdylan Says:

    Something nice from Freeman’s home crowd.

    Hammy, looking forward to the show.

  16. 266
    I like baseball Says:

    Thank goodness! All these rumors and options are making me crazy! Nice article Bub. Makes me excited to be a Braves fan. Can’t wait!

  17. 267
    Tcc Says:

    Yeah, Bub, thanks for that article. So much focus on Jason Heyward lately but what if both these guys turn out to be the “real deal”? The future is bright!

  18. 268
    I like baseball Says:

    Did you guys see this? Lowe seems a bit bitter. Did Frank forget about peoples feelings again?

  19. 269
    Bubdylan Says:

    Nothing bitter about:

    “I take it kind of personal,” Lowe said. “Noboby made them give me a four-year, $60 million contract. There wasn’t a ransom or anybody holding a gun to their heads. It was a negotiation and that’s what they viewed as fair. I would have never even considered going there if I knew that ultimately this was going to happen.”

    Freaking loser. He stunk up the joint for 15 biggie-large. Hush up and move on. You think you’d have ever been hired if the Braves “knew that ultimately this was going to happen”? Just two different this’s, that’s all.

    Sheesh, now I REALLY want him gone.

  20. 270
    Bubdylan Says:

    From the AJC:

    Here’s what Scott Boras told [DOB] about the Lowe trade possibility on Nov. 9:

    “He’s a veteran player. He understands when you sign a contract without a no-trade clause that you’re going to be talked about [in trade discussions].”

  21. 271
    Bubdylan Says:


  22. 272
    Tcc Says:

    Let’s keep in mind that 20 wins is in contention for the Cy Young award and that 15 wins is very very good. I think Lowe’s biggest liability is that his agent is Boras.

  23. 273
    Bubdylan Says:

    No, Tcc, he isn’t any good. I’m mad at him. He stinks. His 15 wins were all supported by eleven runs or more, and sometimes he was awarded a win even though the Braves lost. He is a stinky, dirty bum who can’t throw anything but a fit.

    (Miller High Life commercials are good. Miller High Life beer is bad.)

  24. 274
    I like baseball Says:

    Dude needs to shut his pie hole or no one’s going to want him. I thought he was from Cali. Shouldn’t he be hopeful in a potential trade close to home? Like say the Padres (fingers crossed so hard they’re cramping)? Is there any validity to the theory that trading Lowe after one year other free agents would think twice about coming to Atl?

    Does anyone know about toilets that run every few minutes? Just a little bit and very much on it’s own. I may throw it out the window before the night i over.

  25. 275
    I like baseball Says:

    “is over” and very sad about MHL. I love that big black dude!

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