There probably isn’t a scenario that doesn’t involve them wanting at least Freeman and I would say 4 or 5 other major prospects. You might be looking at the second coming of the Tex trade and I would hate to have to look back on one of those deals again. He would be a huge help, but he alone is not winning us a WS, and that is the only scenario where you should make that deal.
I don’t know if SD might be apt to lessen their wish list, after the Peavy thing exploded on them, and given that the owner might lose half the team in a divorce, but with that, I think they want 5 of our top-10 prospects. With the frugality of the Braves, and with the strength of their farm system right now, I don’t see how they do it. If they could package something like Schafer, Medlen, and a couple of pitching prospects, maybe you do it.
Oh, and I didn’t even know Gonzalez was in his last year of contract when I said “Heyward+,” I thought he had two left, so please, never even base the slightest bit of your baseball education on anything I say. I just… say stuff. You know this, don’t you? If I’m ever right it’s an accident. Also, I change my opinion about every nine seconds.
For example, Uggla as the 2B of a team hoping to win by way of run prevention? What was I thinking?
We’d get to watch Freeman, Teheran, Kimbrel, & company blossom for the Padres in 2012 while that same year Adrian tears it up for the Yanksox, and we scrape the barrel for a 1B we can afford.
Though, I disagree that Gonzalez wouldn’t put us over the top. I mean, no player guarantees a WS, but in Atlanta’s market, the team that we’d have after acquiring A. Gonzo at the same time that we have this pitching & surrounding batters would be as close as it ever gets.
How many teams have this many solid-to-high-level performers at low cost, for a two-year window:
Any predictions on Soriano? An hour and a half to go. I’m gonna run out and get some beer. I love the internet.
I think he’ll decline, and I think Wren is brilliant for putting that big ol’ smile on his “I’m sure he’ll want to be traded cuz there’s no way in hell I’m letting him pitch the 8th or 9th,” which is smiley-frank for “Listen, Scowl-wowl, you need to beat feet. You’ve been replaced for cheaper and less ouchy.”
I thought I would understand this off season better due to hanging with all you smarty pants. However, I’m as confused as ever. I hate to be the village idiot but can someone explain when a player becomes a free agent? When is a player offered arbitration? When does a player choose to be traded? Sorry for all the simplicity. If it’s too juvenile for this crowd tell me to go buy “baseball 101 for dummies”.
Well, Leah, I waited to let them answer cuz they’ll get it right and I’ll screw it up. But they’ve gone to bed or have lives or something.
1. A player files for free agency when his contract is up. I think.
2. Accepting or declining arbitration is a separate act altogether. But I think you have to accept or decline arby before filing for free agency. I think.
3. A player can’t choose to be traded, but he can always ask to be traded. In the case of Soriano, he would “choose” to be traded because we already know that if he asks to be, the Braves will certainly comply.
4. A player can, however, choose NOT to be traded under a few circumstances.
A. If he has a no-trade clause in his contract.
B. If a player has 10 years of MLB service with at least 5 years with his current team, he can also refuse a trade.
C. If a player accepts arbitration, he can refuse to be traded before June 1st.
I think. Any of that could be totally wrong.
So, with Soriano,
A. He is not yet a free agent.
B. He has been offered arbitration, which he has until midnight to accept or decline.
C. If he declines, he will then file for free agency.
D. If he accepts, he has a non-guaranteed* contract with the Braves. He can’t be traded without his consent before June. But it’s understood that he’ll want to be traded, and the Braves will want him gone.
Again, any or all of that could be miles off. Steve will clear it up for you in the morning.
Yikes indeed. Does that mean if he wants to stay with the Braves he can? But why would he knowing he won’t close. Thanks for the info…it is very helpful. Are you saying I have no life since I’m up at 11:46 waiting to be certain Soriano accepts this bogus arby deal?
You’re married. You have a no-life liscense. So, it’s cool.
Why would he, knowing he won’t close? Well, he’ll still close. For another team. If he really accepts, the assumption is that he doesn’t think he can do better in the FA market, money-wise than the Braves arby settlement. And he can still close with whatever team he gets traded to.
ok so he would accept the arby deal to lock down his salary knowing he will be traded for another team? Why are we freakishly up so late to see if he accepts or not? It doesn’t seem to make a difference?