Show #87: The Braves Retool the Bullpen with Wagner and Saito
Billy Wagner and Takashi Saito join the Braves’ bullpen. Revisiting 1st base. And clearing up that Bob Rathbun hire.
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December 7th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Ken Rosenthal tweets that Soriano is accepting.
Yikes.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Yeah…that’s not good. Why is that not good? So confusing. Maybe I’m not smart enough for baseball.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
What will make me very, very angry is if Soriano has a bunch of phantom ouchies so that he protects his arm in the first half, and then comes out firing in the second half to secure his next contract.
It is rumored that this is the sort of stuff he pulls. And that some players have doubted his injuries.
I can’t stand him. It’s official. I’m angry.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Me too! Very angry! One day I’ll understand all the rules and I’ll know why. Maybe it will make sense in the morning.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
It’s not good because paying 7 million bucks for your 6th-7th inning reliever is financial suicide if you’re trying to compete for less than 150 million. It would be like taking on Pujols’ salary to put him on your bench.
December 7th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
sonofabitch.
He took it.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Ouch…now I am angry. Surely someone will want him. Chug your beer and go to bed. I’m going to dream about #34′s lineup.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:00 am
G’night.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:36 am
35% Atlanta’s Payroll = Chipper Jones + Derek Lowe + Soriano.
I’m hungry for Albatross suddenly.
December 8th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Curt you sound horrible. We like it…
For no particular reason other than Curt sounds like Animal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY
Hope you feel better, Curtis.
December 8th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Thanks Will.
no clue on the Soriano thing. I’m really shocked. As Bub said, I guess he is trying to lock in at a higher salary knowing that the Braves are going to trade him. There must have been very little interest in him, at least none where he was going to make $8 mill a season. Bizarre. So now we get to wait and see if he will agree to the trade.
December 8th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Right – the multi-year offers must not have been attractive. And Soriano figured, take the guaranteed 7+ million for a year, get traded (b/c the Braves don’t want to be saddled with his salary) to avoid being buried in a non-sexy 6th/7th inning role and end up on a team in a closer role, build up his stats, and look good again when he hits the free agent market next off-season. And, this way, the team that picks him up this year doesn’t have to give the Braves one of their first round picks. I hate Soriano now.
Leah – Did Bub answer your questions? Anything lingering?
December 8th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I don’t even hate Soriano that much. All the sudden we have a desirable trade chip to add to the inevitable Lowe or Vazquez trade that’s coming. Aside from losing the 1st round pick compensation (which we can argue is a huge, or not, deal) we’re not really any worse off than we were.
December 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Bub- what is the source of the Soriano sandbagging injuries rumors? i don’t see the logic in even trying to do that…as in if I want a raise at work, 6 months before review I really slack off but not enough to get fired…and then 3 and 2 months before review really pick up the pace so that I can get the promotion/raise…how does the boss not see through that? And think basically that I am an unreliable a-hat. So you fake injury in early season so you can take it easy…then burn rubber in second half? to me you are damaged goods…lowers your trade value…no?
December 8th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Are there two Steves or is Stevie talking to himself again? Steve, Bub cleared up a lot for me but he gives me too much credit. I’m not as smart as he thinks I am. I’m still unclear on which players a club offers arbitration. Any player whose contract is up or do they have to be a free agent? If a player is hired as a free agent for a multi-year contract does the player have to approve any trade in the middle of said contract? Maybe if you can attach players to certain situations I’ll understand better. I’m sure when I hear the answers my questions will seem silly but I’m just a simple minded girl with a MS education.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Now that o re-read Bub’s answer I think he did answer all the questions I asked. Last year Frenchy was offered arbitration right? Was he a free agent? Does every player become a free agent when his contract is up? Just when I think I understand I get confused again. I think I belong on the facebook group feed…oy vey.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Will, did you just ask me for a source? I almost spit my coffee laughing.
Actually, I thought that it was here that I heard the players had questioned this mantle concerning that weird, lingering injury of … season before last? Something? Also, someone close to his doctor supposedly leaked him as a hypochondriac who’s scared of his money evaporating.
As for the limited logic of pulling such a caper, yeah, I’m with you. But the way it was put to me, it did make some sense. But I can translate/remember it. That’s the trouble with libel & heresay.
Anyway, no, no source. So, scratch it. I should have been more responsible.
Then again, I have officially and permanently assassinated his character deep in my funky mind because he’s caused my team an inconvenience. Once you cross that line… you’re just a dirty bastid with no heart for the game.
December 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
*but I can’T translate/ remember it.
**the players had questioned HIS mantle…
December 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Braves just DFA’d Church to make room on the roster for Soriano. There goes trading Church for that big bat we need. I’m back to hating Soriano again, for real, by the way.
December 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Hate’s a strong word, but I have never really thought Soriano was a team player. DOB loosened me up toward him a little with that quote … what was he said in an elevator? “When we win, I’ll smile.” But now I’m not buying it.
He’s too cool for school. Like Loaf. Don’t like it. One. Bit.
I wish Wren would catch a big break soon. I really do think his heart is in the right place and his overall strategy is sound.
December 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Curtis Granderson apparently just got traded to the f-ing Yankees.
December 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Aw man, now I’ll never get to make the pun … Hammy is grand, but …
Curt is grander, son.
December 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
*commits suicide*
December 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
That’s why Bub is and will always be my ultimate favorite! Dude’s freakin funny.
December 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I now wish his name was Curtis Awesomerson