Show #87: The Braves Retool the Bullpen with Wagner and Saito
Billy Wagner and Takashi Saito join the Braves’ bullpen. Revisiting 1st base. And clearing up that Bob Rathbun hire.
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December 9th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Leah, if Chipper retires with Bobby, guess what 3B is a free agent next year?
Hint: He’s very, very beautiful, he joined the MLB as a third baseman, but currently is at first, and his name rhymes (approximately) with “Gormet Catfood.”
(Say, why aren’t we looking at him this year in a trade? 16 HR, .289 BA, and can fill in for Chipper AND man 1B – well, not at the same time… and then get an OF for your power bat.
AND THEN, if Chipper does go the way of the do-do this year, in 2011 move Gormet Catfood to 3rd, Freeman to 1B, and use Chipper’s salary relief to pick up a HUGE OF Bat. See… I’m alllllllways thinking…)
December 9th, 2009 at 12:48 am
* Gourmet.
Will, okay, I made it up.
G’night, ABT.
December 9th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Oh, and he’s right handed. Let’s get him. And a good OF.
Alright, really sleeping.
December 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Sore Throat…aka…. Curt.
Bub-no biggie. Ize just curious cause it sounds so lamedevious. Enough to be true.
December 9th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Ew…I don’t think I can stomach Gourmet Catfood. I like my baseball players to look less like they got hit by a bus. I’m keeping my 1st base pipe dream alive.
December 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Nevermind about Goad. O’s, ‘stros and Halos…who would we want from these teams?
December 9th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Soriano’s brilliant. He gets the high yearly AND he gets to choose which of these teams he says “yes” to, regardless of what’s being offered to the Braves. AND if the economy recovers, he can rack up next year.
Butthole.
December 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Of course, in his (scant) defense, Wren DID limit his earnings by offering him arbitration so that his value went down with the draft pick business. So, I guess good for his agent. Actually, ingenious. The Braves offered arbitration to a player he had no intention of having on the team, and in return, the player accepted it having no intention of being on the team. Tit for tat.
December 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I meant:
The Braves offered arbitration to a player THEY had no intention of having on the team, and in return the player accepted it having no intention of being on the team.
December 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I’m more nervous about not being able to dump him with each passing moment. Can a player be traded more than once in the offseason? Like LaRoche went to Yanksox and then came to Heaven’s favorite team this past season? What’s Rule 5? Is anyone tired of my questions? Please don’t create a whole new site and tell everyone but me.
December 9th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
there is a time period within which a guy can be traded only so many times. not sure the exact parameters.
Rule 5 is when there is a draft open to all teams of unprotected minor league players. Each team must submit a list of players they are protecting under Rule 5, then all the other teams can choose from the unprotected players. If a team has a player selected, they are allowed to pull back a certain number of unprotected players. A team can not lose more than 3 players. (I think it is 3). the caveate is that any player selected through Rule 5 must be on the opening day major league roster of the team by whom he was selected, otherwise he is sent back to the team from whence he came.
i think those are the highlights.
next, ask about the in-field fly rule, for Skip’s sake.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Soriano will be moved easily enough, I think, though I’m not looking for much return. Some GM will have visions of his nasty, filthy pitches just in time.
I have my doubts about Lowe, but I’ll be out of panic mode once Sorry-I-Know (heh, a wrinkle, see it?) hits the bricks.
Re: Would you folks agree with this sentiment?:
Even though the return on Soriano will be of less value the two draft picks, it’s still better to have Wagner and the return on Soriano – than Soriano and draft picks we lose for Wagner – for the same money. I think Wagner’s performance will be that much more reliable. And, Lord help me, I think Wagner’s competitive drive will be an improvement over Scowl-pal. AS LONG AS things are going well. And, they will be.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Re:?? I have no idea why I wrote “Re:” Time for a daily beer limit.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Yes Bub…I would be in the proverbial fetal position, brown satin sheets and all, without Wagner. So excited about the bullpen! I keep remembering a few shows back when a guest host, maybe Curt’s Phillies friend, commented on the trades gone wrong in the offseason allowing us to hold onto Yunel. He named a few other examples that I can’t think of but who knows how it will all flesh out.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Curt Shmurt. He didn’t name anything.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Yikes, DOB tweets that the Angels don’t want to pay that much for Soriano.
That’s the team with the MOST $$ who’s supposed be shopping for him.
Fe. tal. Po-sition.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Orioles are out of the Soriano game, too, tweets Rosenthal.
Leaving: the Astros. Big spenders.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
You know something? EVERYBODY said to begin with that offering Soriano arbitration in this economy/market was crazy. The only reason we all jumped on board was because we trusted that Wren wouldn’t be stupid.
If this ends up going ugly, what are we to suppose about Sir Frank? Is he cosmically clumsy after all?
Help, my knee is jerking.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
If the Phillies get Halladay, I quit.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Re (that’s for you, Bub) the Soriano angst … this is from DOB’s blog this hour: “Soriano will be traded before we leave here tomorrow, I’m fairly sure. So yes, it could be today. Braves are motivated to get that done, get that part out of the way before they go home.”
So, did Wren screw up by offering Soriano arb? I don’t think you can argue that. Given that they did not want to keep him and had clearly eyed Wagner/Saito to replace him, it was the only move. And, to answer a question above, there will be more known about the prospect we get in the Soriano trade than for the complete unknown of the draft pick we’d have gotten for him if he’d accepted arb.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
*Bows to Stevie, does the little palms-down thing*
December 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
*ALTHOUGH*
It was Steve who assured me Gory-Harmo wasn’t accepting the blame thing to begin with.
December 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I will add that what we will know about the prospect we get for Soriano is that he is pretty average and has limited major league potential.
December 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
A straight money dump will be welcome at this point. Astros about to snag Lindstrom. It’ll be down to the … drum roll … Rays to spend this kind of $$ on Soggy-whino.
December 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Curt – a good point.